CP 12: Journals #2 (Wife of Bath) Lit. Analysis by Courtney Warner https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne Please type your new journals into this Padlet. You will need to peer critique tomorrow. :) en-us 2018-11-06 21:36:00 UTC 2019-05-28 14:22:27 UTC hello@padlet.com Maria Phillips https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301281912 Quote: " 'Women desire to have the sovereignty As well upon their husband as their love, And to have mastery their man above' " page 129
Analysis: In this quote, written by Chaucer, from, "The Wife of Bath's Tale", on page 129, I think the author is trying to say the knight believes he has figured out what women most desire. For example, in the line that says, "Women desire to have the sovereignty", it is clear that the knight thinks women want to be in control, or have the power in the relationship. (CH) This shows that the knight is not afraid to say his answer, because he knows he has to say something or he will die. (M) This creates a suspenseful mood, waiting to see if the knight will live or die. He thinks he has come up with the answer, that seems to be a bigger theme in Chaucer's tales. Women want the power and to be in charge in the relationship. ]]> 2018-11-07 00:10:51 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301281912 Emma Gurney https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301286422 Quote: "But for all naught; the end was this, that he was so constrained he needs must go and wed, and take his ancient wife and go to bed." Wife of Bath page 130.

Analysis: (CH) This quote from the Wife of Bath Tale, page 130, shows that the knight keeps his word, and he'd rather stay alive, married to the hag, than die. This ties to the theme that women want to be in control because it shows an example of the knight listening to the hag, and staying with her. (P) I would predict that the knight would give up and decide to just marry her and that he felt like he had no other choice. Chaucer was showing us that some men would actually let their wives control them. ]]> 2018-11-07 00:36:43 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301286422 Cullen White https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301445729 Quote found on page 132: “From this you see that true gentility is not allied to wealth a man may own...For acting churlish makes a man a churl” 

Analysis: This quote is from an old woman in The Tale of the Wife of Bath, found in the novel The Canturbury Tales. This statement from the old woman is about how social standing does not influence character. The quote, “For acting churlish makes a man a churl” shows the old woman’s belief that the way you act makes you the person you are. A rich and noble man may not exactly be “noble” if he lies, cheats on his wife, and only cares about himself. On the other hand, a poor homeless man may be a true “noble” if he helps others in need and puts his personal wants and needs after other people.

]]> 2018-11-07 12:42:22 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301445729 Cassie Hartzell https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301483142 Quote: "Women desire to have the sovereignty As well upon their husband as their love, And to have mastery their man above; this thing you most desire, though me you kill do as you please, I am here at your will."
Analysis: As a man somehow begins to attempt and explain what women "truly want"; it allows us, as readers, to truly envision this life. A woman wanting full sovereignty, or total control and power, whether it's over her own life or someone else's is not too far fetched. The wife of bath wanted more control so she took over her life in a more sexual way. "My lady and my love, and wife so dear, I put myself in your wise governing>"(chaucer 134) The knight knows the answer, so when a woman asks him to make a choice, he gives her the power, and he ends up pleasing her and getting the true person he needs. So, all in all women for years; decades, centuries, even millenniums, have always wanted power, and all you have to do is give it to them. ]]> 2018-11-07 13:53:02 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301483142 Madelyn Beckman https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301566474 Quote: "He sought out every house and every place wherein he hoped to find that he had grace To learn what women love the most of all."
Analysis:
Geoffrey Chaucer uses irony to characterize the characters in this tale. The knight was with a women against her will, to later in the poem ultimately give the witch all the power in their relationship. This quote is the base of the story and helps the story-line develop. The quote gives the readers predictions of how, going to different houses will show Geoffrey Chaucer's story writing development. How he connects the riddle the knight has to solve to the body and closing of the poem. The quote also helps develop the theme of the story. "Learn what women love the most of all," it connects to how Chaucer shows that if you give women power your life will become easier as a husband. The witch shows the the knight that if you give women the choice that they will reward you. Throughout the knight's journey he gives the attitude that he doesn't care for his wrong doings and just wants to live. ]]> 2018-11-07 15:35:01 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301566474 Caylin Quiggle https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301600056 Quote: "So help me God, I'll never strike you more; what I have done, you are to blame therefore, But all the same forgiveness! And thereupon I hit him on the cheek." 
Analysis: In this quote written by Chaucer on page 123, from "The Wife of Bath," A common theme of control is shown throughout the tale. Her husband hits her and doesn't want her to leave after, so he kisses her and she his him back. This portrays how after he hit her, she realized that she could now be in control. This quote related to modern times because, power and control are of big part of what not only women, but most people desire in life. The quote, "So help me God, I'll never strike you more." characterizes her husband as soft, and how he gives into her after he feels guilty. All in all, most people want power and control to feel fulfilled in life.  ]]> 2018-11-07 16:17:31 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301600056 Megan Wise https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301603996 Quote: "A twelvemonth and a day, to search and learn sufficient answer in this grave concern. and your knight's world I'll have, ere fourth you pace, to yield your body to me in this place."
Analysis: Geoffrey Chaucer uses this quote to show that the knight does not understand what women want or how to respect them. This foreshadows future events by giving the knight a time frame. We now know that the knight will go out and find the answer in order to save his life. Chaucer uses repetition throughout the story to help move it along. Chaucer repeats the phrase "' finding what women most desire" leaving the readers wondering what women desire. It also reminds the reader what the knight is looking for and guides the knight through his quest. ]]> 2018-11-07 16:22:49 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301603996 Logan Hemmer https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301604485 Quote: "Now since you say that I am foul and old, Then fear you not to be made a cuckold." said by the old women on page 134.
Analysis: The old women's quote from page 134 creates a negative setting in The Wife of Bath, Geoffrey Chaucer's book Canterbury Tales. Another quote from the same page, "Choose now, one of these things. To have me foul and old until I die, and be to you a true and humble wife, and never anger you in all my life or else to have me young and very fair and take your chance with those who will repair Unto your house. " shows the old wife giving the knight the choice of his life to either give her a chance and be happy or to treat her badly and be miserable for the rest of his life. These quotes also tie into characterization by showing that the wife wants to be in control, but also shows a softer side which she is also giving the knight a lesson.]]> 2018-11-07 16:23:30 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301604485 Devin Daniel https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301605277 Quote: pg.115 "And now for my fifth  husband will I tell. God grant his soul may never get to hell! Yet he was the most brutal too; my ribs yet feel as they were black and blue , and ever shall , until my dying day. But in our bed he was so fresh and gay."
Analysis:
Geoffrey Chaucer uses imagery to characterize the characters in the tale. The wife is speaking of her fifth husband , this gets the point across to us the readers, she has had plenty of experience with men and marriage. Also we can seek out the fact that she loves this man because she states ; "God grant his soul he may never get to hell". Last but not least , we can tell the wife , and her fifth husbands relationship may be odd. When it feels as if the love dwindles down, he turns her black and blue and the love is back to the way it was before.]]> 2018-11-07 16:24:38 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301605277 Kaitlyn Cook https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301607270 Quote- "To have me foul and old until I die, and be to you a true and humble wife, and never anger you in all my life; or else to have me young and very fair and take your chance with those who will repair." pg.134

Analysis- This quote from The Wife of Bath, found on page 134, shows women liked to be in control. The old woman was giving the Knight an option, in other words, possibly teasing him. She maybe expected him to not pick one because men liked young, faithful women. Today, it's kind of the same. People want a faithful significant others. Knowing this she gave him the option so she was in control of the answer. This makes us wonder, did she do this for him, or herself?


]]> 2018-11-07 16:27:12 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301607270 Kristina Skidmore https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301694194 Quote:
"I'll grant you life if you can tell to me what thing it is that women most desire. Be wise, and keep your neck from the iron dire! And if you cannot tell it me anon then I will give you a license to be gone, a twelve month and a day to search and learn sufficient answer in this grave concern."
Analysis:
This quote is said by the Queen and is said to the knight. She is giving the knight a worse punishment than death for raping the girl. She is giving him one year and a day to answer an impossible question. In this quote it says, "What thing woman most desire." That quote is representing the knights most impossible quest. This is impossible because not every woman is going to have the same response. The knight accepts the quest though and gets many different answers until he meets an old woman who gives him the answer that the queen agrees with when he goes to tell her. ]]> 2018-11-07 18:16:15 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301694194 Moriah Love https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301694840 Quote: "Women desire to have the sovereignty as well their husband as their husband as their love, and to have mastery their man above; the thing is you most desire, though me you kill do as you please, I am here at your will."

Analysis: After coming back in 12 months and one day the Knight discovers that women didn't want money, fancy clothes, or someone good in bed like the men said; instead, women want to have the power in the relationship and "to have mastery their man above." This can connect to the way women were treated in this time era. They were expected to cook, clean, and take care of the children. Since they didn't have much say as the men did in their society, this was their way of having some kind of control.]]> 2018-11-07 18:17:19 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301694840 Blaine Swartzmiller https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301699469 Quote on page 134: "My lady and my wife so dear, I put myself in your wise governing;  Do you choose which may be your pleasing, and bring most honor to you, and me also. I care not which it be of these things two; For if you like it, that suffices me."
Analysis: In this quote found in The Tale of the Wife of Bath on page 134, tells that the the knight is tired and beaten down by his past experiences with women, also the side effects taken place when doing wrong. When the old lady asks the question of whether the knight would like her to be either beautiful and evil, or ugly and loving, the husband allows her to choose whichever best fits her. I think the knight responds to the old lady like this because he has learned from his wrong doings with women, and has learned the hard way on how to treat women. I also think that the old lady was meant to make the knight learn the valuable lesson of allowing women to have power in order to make them happy. I think this because it seems like more than just a big coincidence that the knight found her on the last day of his journey, in such a magical way (by the dancing women). The old lady that gives the knight the answer I believe was put on the earth ask the night her question and make him learn what he should about women.]]> 2018-11-07 18:24:07 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301699469 Alivia Lucius https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301703087 Quote: "But that tale is not worth a rake's handle. By God, we women can no thing conceal" (pg. 127)
Analysis: Author, Geoffrey Chaucer, used this quote to describe how women behaved during this period of history. The idea that women were unable to keep secrets and only capable to spread gossip, helps to relate this tale to follow an anti-feminist stereotype that women were only good chatterboxes and couldn't be trusted with private information. The Wife herself confirms this stereotype when she describes how she caused her husband a great deal of shame by revealing everything about him to her gossiping  peers.]]> 2018-11-07 18:29:56 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301703087 Hillary Schoenfeld https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301718367 Quote...
"Take fire and carry it in the darkest house. Between here and the Mount of Caucasus, And let men shut the doors and from them turn; Yet will the fire as fairly blaze and burn. As twenty thousand men did it behold; Its nature and its office it will hold, On peril of my life, until it die." pg.132
Analysis...
I believe in this quote from the Wife of Bath tale on page 132, the Wife is trying to use symbolism to show that fire is just like the human soul. In such a way she is saying fire can burn and destroy everything in its path when first ignited, as can a human once you ignite their anger or upset him or her. Of course you can do this up until it has nothing left to burn and eventually "self-destructs" a human can also self-destruct if they end up thinking too muc]]> 2018-11-07 18:48:35 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301718367 Summer Morency https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301728347 Quote: "Women desire to have the sovereignty as well upon their husband as their love, and to have mastery their man above ;this thing you do most desire though me you will kill, do as you please, I am here at your will"
Analysis: This quote found o page 129 told by Chaucer]]> 2018-11-07 19:01:30 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/301728347 Winnie Snook https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/302154465 Quote: "And I pray Jesus to cut short the lives of those who'll not be governed by their wives;"  pg 135

Analysis: In this quote, written by Chaucer from "The Wife of Bath's Tale," on page 135, I believe that the author is trying to say that he feels bad for any man that doesn't give his wife the power in the relationship. I believe the author feels this way because in the story it talks about how women who don't have authority in their relationships tend to cheat on their husbands. For example on page 134 it says, "To have me foul and old until I die, and be to you a true and humble wife, and never anger you in all my life; or else to have me young and very fair and take your chance with those who will repair." This shows the woman giving her husband a choice, and when he tells her that it's her choice, she chooses to be young, beautiful, and loyal. The author just wants to say that women want the power in relationships, and if they don' t have it, they make their mans' life difficult. I think that the diction used by the author makes it easier for the reader to understand the mood of the story, which would be fear, because the men are constantly in fear of their wives not being faithful.

]]> 2018-11-08 16:14:55 UTC https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/302154465 Summer Morency https://padlet.com/cwarner/hun8axtw35ne/wish/302274347 Quote: Women desire to have the sovereignty as well their husband as their husband as their love, and to have mastery their man above: the thing is you most desire, though me you kill do as you please 
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