Yishmael appreciation by Tamar Rabinowitz https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866 Reflections en-us 2021-01-14 03:17:28 UTC 2021-10-08 18:58:53 UTC hello@padlet.com You guys had a good mix between chevruta work and all class discussion. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138735320 RS]]> 2021-01-28 21:40:23 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138735320 I liked how you guys compared Isaac and Yishmael and how Avraham treated each of them. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736060 -MH]]> 2021-01-28 21:40:40 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736060 I appreciated how your discussion questions guided our unpacking and understanding of the midrashim. I also liked how we came back together after each chunck of text to understand it completely and hear everyones thoughts. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736333 -Natalia]]> 2021-01-28 21:40:44 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736333 I appreciated the way we did the first midrash together, and the way after each person saying something, you responded with some more insight into it. lsealman20221 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736557 L.S.]]> 2021-01-28 21:40:49 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736557 I hadnt realized that Sarah "cast an evil eye" on Ishmael https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736937 2021-01-28 21:41:00 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138736937 I really loved having the time and texts to go over these verses because I have gone over them many times but in this shiur I noticed many new things that were very interesting. ejasper20231 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138737176 2021-01-28 21:41:06 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138737176 trabinowitz https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738038 I appreciated how you gave a passive character a voice and a redemptive arc and made that relevant to our arc as well. Ms. R]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:25 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738038 I loved how much room you guys left for discussion. The source sheet was clear and organized and you all spoke really clearly. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738079 aa]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:26 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738079 Why is God ok with the fact that Avraham is able to, without a fight, kill his sons. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738093 2021-01-28 21:41:26 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738093 I never really though of Avraham kicking Yishmael out in comparison to the akaida, and how it's possible God was "preparing" Avraham to sacrifice his son by making him abandon Yishmael. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738294 -MH]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:31 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738294 I really like how you guys zoomed out to the whole narrative and people in Ishmael's life to really help us understand and shape Ishmaels narrative rarnold2021 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738443 RA]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:35 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738443 I learned, or rather realized, that the thing that happened with Yishmael was basically a prequel to what happens to Yitzchak in the Akedah, which is a bit of a scary thought. lsealman20221 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738735 L.S.]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:42 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138738735 I learned that Yishmaels Role of both a supporting character and his own individual star is comparable to even our greatest patriachs. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739256 Natalia]]> 2021-01-28 21:41:55 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739256 trabinowitz https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739606 I learned new ways Yishmael was the "prep" for Yizhak . Ms. R]]> 2021-01-28 21:42:04 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739606 I learned that Ishmael getting kicked out of Avraham's house is tied to the Akeda rarnold2021 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739800 RA]]> 2021-01-28 21:42:08 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138739800 No matter how many times I read the verses it is always amazing to discover new things together! https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138740276 2021-01-28 21:42:17 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138740276 I would like to explore further sara's character in this story and why she treated hagar and yishmael in such terrible ways. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138742059 Natalia]]> 2021-01-28 21:42:59 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138742059 Would Avraham have expressed the same amount of emotional distress that he did with leaving Yishmael if Hashem told him directly before Sara? lsealman20221 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138742232 L.S.]]> 2021-01-28 21:43:03 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138742232 What's more important: a commitment to something bigger? Or family? rarnold2021 https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743321 RA]]> 2021-01-28 21:43:28 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743321 Now I believe that Yishmael was actually a good person https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743571 2021-01-28 21:43:32 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743571 trabinowitz https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743582 Why does the pshat refuse to give Yishmael the starring role that the midrash gives him? In that vein - why does the Midrash spend so much time teasing out his actions? Ms. R 

]]> 2021-01-28 21:43:32 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743582 In the last Midrash there was a comparison between when the Torah says Isaac and Ishmael and when it says Esau and Jacob. I'm just really interested in comparing the two sibling relationships and how they all were treated by their parents. https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743879 -MH]]> 2021-01-28 21:43:40 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138743879 I never realized that Ishmael himself might have done something to get him and his mother kicked out https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138744138 aa]]> 2021-01-28 21:43:45 UTC https://padlet.com/trabinowitz/hdiobn24087zypja1631568866/wish/1138744138