https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x Enlightenment Ideas and the Revolutions That Followed en-us 2019-01-14 12:53:35 UTC 2021-07-11 03:35:21 UTC hello@padlet.com 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347770 Bye]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347770 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347803 Howdy]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347803 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347833 holaa]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:32 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347833 10029645 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347862 hola]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347862 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347881 Hi there]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347881 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347904 Hola]]> 2019-01-14 15:41:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320347904 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348181 hey]]> 2019-01-14 15:42:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348181 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348488 hey]]> 2019-01-14 15:42:41 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348488 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348491 E ]]> 2019-01-14 15:42:41 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348491 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348502 hi]]> 2019-01-14 15:42:43 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348502 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348661 .]]> 2019-01-14 15:42:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348661 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348988 hello]]> 2019-01-14 15:43:34 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320348988 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349094 drip too hard]]> 2019-01-14 15:43:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349094 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349414 drip too hard]]> 2019-01-14 15:44:14 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349414 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349421 hi]]> 2019-01-14 15:44:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320349421 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320350488 I agree that the French revolution is most based on the Enlightenment. Do you think the fact that that is where the Enlightenment started affects it?]]> 2019-01-14 15:45:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320350488 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320350833 I like Alec's point about how the French were inspired by the American colonies in terms of revolutionary ideas. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:46:12 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320350833 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351251 I believe that the American revolution was based on enlightenment ideas the most.]]> 2019-01-14 15:46:48 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351251 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351422 I agree with Alec on her point of the declarations that stated enlightenment rights for the French Revolution. I would also add that in Document 5 it states that all people have the right to liberty, property, and security.]]> 2019-01-14 15:47:04 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351422 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351487 I agree that the french revolution is most based on Enlightenment ideals because even when the commoners were not able to participate in government, they continued to do so by creating the national assembly and proposing the declaration of rights]]> 2019-01-14 15:47:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351487 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351877 I agree with David and Alec. The French Revolution was most based on enlightenment ideals, due to the fact that it was mostly French philosophers that proposed ideas like equality and voice in government, etc.]]> 2019-01-14 15:47:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320351877 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352105 I agree that the fact that women's rights were also being fought for  in France solidifies the fact that France was at the forefront of revolution.]]> 2019-01-14 15:47:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352105 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352251 Locke said that truth is obtained through accumulated experiences, not from being told what to believe. This is seen through the pushback against the Catholic Church because for centuries it was an institution that told people what to believe, so during the Reign of Terror the fight against the church is really seen.]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352251 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352260 I like Phoebe's point, the French revolution did have something to do with Enlightenment rights but that was not their intention. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:10 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352260 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352269 I think that the French revolution as a whole was better because they completely overthrew their own government instead of just separating themselves from a mother country. They took over the corrupt government rather than taking themselves away. However both used enlightenment rights to form their new government. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:11 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352269 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352380 I like Zhaire's point of enlightenment rights were shown in the French revolution with Olympe and her fight for women's rights. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352380 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352447 Did the Haitain Revolution base their revolutions off of enlightenment ideals or violence?]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352447 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352546 I agree that the Haitian and Latin America revolution was not really based on enlightenment ideas.]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352546 10029645 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352593 I agree that the French Revolution is most based on the Enlightenment because they worked to go against the government that was treating them unfairly. I agree with David that its interesting how the French is the only Revolution that really touched on rights of women which are a big enlightenment idea. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:48:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320352593 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353043 Even though the American Revolution was based on enlightenment Ideals they didn't include the ideals for all people slaves still had no rights]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353043 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353058 What Nick is saying is true because one of the enlightenment ideas was that if the government isn't governing the people and doing what is in the best interest of the people then the people have the right to change it. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353058 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353089 The Haitian also seemed to be more about just getting rid of slavery because their laws focused more on the freedom of people rather than other important points]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:28 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353089 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353168 I like Zhaire's point. The American ideas of life, liberty, and property are all prominent Enlightenment ideas. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353168 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353174 I agree with Ajanay ]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353174 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353242 I agree with Megan's statement. Also, it is interesting that most countries pushed back against the church except Latin America, where the Catholic Church was given more power.]]> 2019-01-14 15:49:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353242 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353539 The French Revolution was more based on enlightenment because it freed all people and gave rights to all men not just whites]]> 2019-01-14 15:50:14 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353539 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353857 I have to say I would disagree about the american revolution being the MOST based on enlightenment ideas because what sparked the american revolution was the raise on taxes that encouraged mercantile practices and they became driven to be a sovereign state because of it. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:50:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353857 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353880 I disagree I think the American revolution was based on Enlightenment ideals but only to a certain extent. In the American revolution the fight was against taxation without proper representation in government. However, in France the common people were having their rights violated, which meant that Enlightenment rights hit closer to home in a way, affecting everyone. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:50:46 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353880 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353924 I like Sadie's mention of Washington and his reference to the French ]]> 2019-01-14 15:50:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320353924 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354247 I do think the American Revolution had enlightenment ideas but I think the French Revolution was more based on enlightenment than the American Revolution. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:51:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354247 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354511 The Haitian revolution was still caused by an important enlightenment idea being encroached on, which was a man's natural right to freedom and liberty which was not being given to the Haitian slaves as they worked for the Europeans. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:51:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354511 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354597 I agree with Lydia because both revolutions had different flaws in their enlightenment ideals but overall based them on their enlightenment ideals]]> 2019-01-14 15:51:54 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354597 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354693 I agree with Xaveons point about the Declaration of independence, but the Declaration of the rights of man and citizen also state basic unalienable rights. I also think that because France applied the enlightenment idea of people overthrowing a corrupt government, it helps their case for having the most enlightenment ideals. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:52:04 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320354693 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355029 The American Revolution had the most enlightenment rights.]]> 2019-01-14 15:52:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355029 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355128 The French revolution also seemed more complete because America even after being founded on all these enlightenment ideas still have some discrepancies because not all men were free and people were still treated unfairly. Also, America was written on things mainly Christian which goes against their main goal of freedom of religion. While on the other hand the French Revolution seemed to tie up everything better with the fairness of people and the freedom of religion by pushing the Church away.]]> 2019-01-14 15:52:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355128 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355226 I agree with what David is saying because the common theme in all of the revolutions was people's rights being taken away.]]> 2019-01-14 15:52:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355226 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355285 David does each revolution give rights to all people though?]]> 2019-01-14 15:53:04 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355285 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355783 I believe that the reign of terror was apart of the process of change as the period that followed it was much more fair to all French citizens.]]> 2019-01-14 15:53:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320355783 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356054 I see Phoebe's point and I agree to an extent, but I think that the cause of the revolution is more important when discussing which had more to do with the Enlightenment more than the effects because I think effects could go both ways but the original intent of the French revolution was more about Enlightenment than the American revolution, despite the outcome of it. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356054 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356221 Could the Reign of terror be seen as similar to the Civil War in a sense where the true freedom for everyone and the full settling of revolutions wasn't settled until long after the initial revolution? Meaning that the revolution continues even after the fighting?]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356221 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356228 The Napoleonic era was still much better than the previous ruling period was it not?]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:34 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356228 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356242 So is it more about the intent or the outcome? ]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356242 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356374 outcome]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:46 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356374 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356403 I agree with Xaveon because if the Deceleration of the rights of man was so influential why is it not still held today like the Declaration of Independence]]> 2019-01-14 15:54:48 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356403 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356526 I see a definite connection with what Nick said. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:55:00 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356526 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356533 I like Phoebe's question about whether or not the reign of terror, Napoleon, etc. were part of the revolution. I think it was somewhat necessary in order to keep things intact but not necessarily a good thing. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:55:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356533 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356855 What enlightenment ideals appeared in more revolutions beliefs]]> 2019-01-14 15:55:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320356855 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357008 I agree with Nicholas with the point that revolutions seem to continue long after the first revolution, which suggests that maybe the initial revolutions are not as revolutionary as some people believe.]]> 2019-01-14 15:55:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357008 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357024 I agree with Nick because considering there was a time of violence in France coming straight from the revolution doesn't mean America didn't experience times of violence and hardship due to the "natural rights" stated in both declarations of France and America. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:55:53 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357024 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357197 Did Napoleon's benefits outweigh his own personal greed though?]]> 2019-01-14 15:56:12 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357197 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357362 Or could the reign of terror be seen as an accomplishment from the revolution? While it was brutal, they were able to come out of it for the better due to the way the new government was set up. While with the previous government who knows where it could have gone to. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:56:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357362 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357533 I agree with David, Napoleon really just wanted the power over France and did not rule for the people. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:56:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357533 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357597 I like Alec's point about his power and that the people were like a 'side-note.' ]]> 2019-01-14 15:56:54 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357597 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357659 So what your saying Lydia is that Napoleon wanted to bring Europe to his view of a perfect worl]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:00 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357659 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357723 world*]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357723 10029645 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357799 I think Alec made a really good point in saying that the power in his mind came first and the people were an afterthought. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357799 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357869 America did seem to fight more for their country rather than a set amount of power]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:22 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320357869 00054898 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358012 I agree with David because Napoleon just wanted power instead of just helping France.]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358012 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358023 I agree with Alec that the people were more of a second thought rather than a priority]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358023 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358106 Napoleon was a militaristic emperor that was more focused on conquering nations then his people]]> 2019-01-14 15:57:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358106 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358234 So if what Alec said is true about the people being an afterthought, does that mean that it wasn't truly based on the Enlightenment if we are considering the Reign of Terror as a part of the Revolution? ]]> 2019-01-14 15:58:06 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358234 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358241 I wouldn't say that's all he was about.]]> 2019-01-14 15:58:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358241 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358246 I agree with ALec with Napoleons views]]> 2019-01-14 15:58:08 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358246 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358389 George Washington seemed to care more about the people than his own political gain. George Washington even voluntarily stepped down from the Presidency, while Napoleon wanted to take power, and add on to his reputation.]]> 2019-01-14 15:58:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358389 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358558 I agree with Zaire about how Napoleon and Touissant are very different and not comparable people because they were fighting for very different things. ]]> 2019-01-14 15:58:42 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358558 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358731 Or could Napoleon be looking to create an empire for his people by conquering bigger nations? Thus making France a stronger and more respected country?]]> 2019-01-14 15:59:00 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358731 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358792 So do you think that Napoleon being compared to an absolutist ruler, make him an passionate revolutionist or a dictator?]]> 2019-01-14 15:59:04 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358792 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358868 a passionate*]]> 2019-01-14 15:59:13 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358868 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358901 If Napoleon didn't care about Napoleon's perspective, then why did the situation in France get better?]]> 2019-01-14 15:59:16 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320358901 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359272 Toussaint did overthrow a government when he led a slave revolt against the French government in Haiti]]> 2019-01-14 15:59:54 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359272 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359543 To answer Phoebe, I think America understood the need for absolute democracy more than France did.]]> 2019-01-14 16:00:16 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359543 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359706 The situation in France became better because Napoleon gained more resources for France]]> 2019-01-14 16:00:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359706 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359789 ^]]> 2019-01-14 16:00:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320359789 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320360507 Lydia are you saying that when a colony fails the mother country ultimately fails?]]> 2019-01-14 16:01:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320360507 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320360721 In response to Phoebe, I think that in America it was easier to get away from the influence of absolutist power because British control was relatively new in the whole history of America and when the war was won there was a complete separation between Britain and America, making it easier to form a democracy. In France however, there was a very long history of absolute leaders, making people who want that back somehow easier to justify themselves and easier to re-establish that system. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:02:11 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320360721 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361396 I agree with Megan in that America it was a separation rather than a total overthrow and a lot of history to overcome in France. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:03:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361396 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361416 Also, in America it was easier because Britain had other colonies to worry about such as the Caribbean islands making them money from plantations and also considering they were separated by an ocean. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:03:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361416 10029645 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361855 Jordan that's a good point, America wasn't Britain's only priority so it was easy for the separation to occur.]]> 2019-01-14 16:04:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361855 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361894 Also in America although there were British representatives within the US, Britain was still across the sea while France's revolution happened within the country.]]> 2019-01-14 16:04:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320361894 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362271 I agree with David ]]> 2019-01-14 16:04:56 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362271 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362288 They found it ok because it still boosted the work rates and therefore the economy due to exports coming out of slave countries]]> 2019-01-14 16:04:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362288 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362422 I think the point in him criticizing the founding fathers for supporting 'equal' rights was a good point. While men were arguing against their rulers because of absolute control they failed to recognize they were doing the same thing to poor people, POC, women, etc. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:05:10 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362422 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362883 I think that it held a sense of hypocrisy. Even though people were pushing against a power above them, they still wanted to hold that power over other people. Also, in places like Haiti, it was the slaves who revolted, creating a total abolishing of slavery, while in places like America it was rich white men who were revolting against mercantilism, and therefore the connection was not made. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362883 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362889 I agree with Ajanay, they didn't really care about slaves you can see later in history they didn't even think people of color were whole people. African American votes later in history didn't even count for a whole vote lol]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:02 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320362889 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363016 In response to Phoebe's question, slavery was kept because the revolutionaries in France and America had never experienced slavery. Also, slaves were not even considered people, and therefore the enlightenment rights did not apply to them. In the Haitian (and other) revolutions, it was the slaves who were the revolutionaries, fighting against slavery. So naturally one of the first things the revolutionaries would do when they gained power was abolish slavery, which they had experienced and knew how wrong it was.]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:14 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363016 00015425 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363047 I agree with Ajanay when she says they were not worried about slaves because it did not directly affect them in a negative way. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363047 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363251 The founding fathers were doing what the people wanted, half the things they did were not for themselves but for the voices that were heard (mainly just white middle/upper-class men). ]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:41 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363251 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363304 I agree fully with Jared. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:46 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363304 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363328 Frederick Douglas did recognize and appreciate the founding fathers, he was just disagreeing with some of their ideas and that the rights are not extending to all people. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363328 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363411 Frederick Douglass saw the founding fathers as great men but that he feels its the job of the country as a whole that kept slaves from having rights]]> 2019-01-14 16:06:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363411 00013186 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363705 I think slavery was already associated with race like David said and so therefore there has always been a need to control other people or have a workforce that is forced to do the work. Europeans had originally explored the americas and taken over natives, and when natives all died, they brought Africans. This does not justify the slavery but the rights of man were not seen to be applied to things which is exactly what slaved were with the new form of slavery:chattel slavery. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:07:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320363705 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364182 I agree with Phoebe in the fact that the reason Haitian slaves were able to get rid of slavery was the drastic population imbalance on the island between the people they were being controlled by and the amount of slaves who were willing to fight for their freedom. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:08:10 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364182 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364691 I agree with Xaveon because can the Reign of Terror be counted as the revolution or the effect of a new weak government]]> 2019-01-14 16:09:03 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364691 10029645 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364979 I agree that a lot of the countries tried to instill the enlightenment ideals into their countries but they ended up not working that easily when put into action. In theory, equal rights sounds like a great idea but when introduced to a society like America's where women are seen are significantly less than men and slaves are treated like property, they end up not working as they seemed to on paper. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:09:32 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364979 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364988 David how long were the rights enforced?]]> 2019-01-14 16:09:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320364988 10029878 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365012 I agree with Lydia that the reign of terror is included within the French revolution, because the effect goes should go with the cause. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:09:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365012 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365244 In America, there were lots of slaves but there were lots of powerful people who had a good hold on them. In Haiti the ratio of slaves to slave owners and rich people were a lot more imbalanced. Haiti's slaves had the numbers and power to abolish it for themselves. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:10:03 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365244 10030165 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365305 I agree with David I think what happens after the Declaration is a result of the revolution, not a part of it. Therefore, that can be used in determining the success of a revolution rather than the basis of it. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:10:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365305 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365378 facts camryn ]]> 2019-01-14 16:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320365378 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366067 In contrast to the slave situation in the US, the Haitian revolution was a much more simple ordeal]]> 2019-01-14 16:11:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366067 10030022 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366421 Camryn In America slaves still made up the majority of the population in all plantation states so there was still a heavy imbalance]]> 2019-01-14 16:11:51 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366421 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366532 I don't think the Reign of Terror should be considered a part of the revolution, due to the fact that it was not a part of the revolution itself. Also, the Reign of Terror goes against some of the enlightenment rights that the French Revolution were trying to establish, so how can it be a part of the French Revolution when it is so opposite to the revolutionaries ideas?]]> 2019-01-14 16:12:05 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366532 00051042 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366741 Is the success of a revolution not what follows it? Because you can have an amazing Deceleration or Rights for the people but if it never works than is it successful? ]]> 2019-01-14 16:12:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320366741 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367275 Jason, although the slave population in America was slightly greater than the free population the imbalance on the island was much greater.]]> 2019-01-14 16:13:17 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367275 10030108 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367372 I think the French revolution happened because they were inspired by the Americans but the French in the end couldn't really afford it. After the FR they lost lots of money and it resulted in lots of tragedy. I don't really know why there was such a drastic difference between the 2 but there were differences beforehand. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:13:27 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367372 10031561 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367478 I agree with Lydia, the social class in America was very informal.]]> 2019-01-14 16:13:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367478 10031940 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367545 Also very few slaves had a taste of freedom in the US while all of the Haitian slaves had freedom before their revolution]]> 2019-01-14 16:13:43 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320367545 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368461 hello]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:06 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368461 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368551 Hola]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:16 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368551 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368587 hi]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368587 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368694 oh its like a chat]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368694 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368730 ok]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:32 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368730 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368925 lets gain this grain]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:51 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368925 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368993 hello]]> 2019-01-14 16:15:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320368993 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369033 Hello to my fellow oso enlightened degenerates]]> 2019-01-14 16:16:02 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369033 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369104 im sHaKiNg]]> 2019-01-14 16:16:08 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369104 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369340 same]]> 2019-01-14 16:16:28 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320369340 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370440 That makes the most sense, I agree, two similar revolutions based on very similar ideals]]> 2019-01-14 16:17:56 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370440 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370505 I agree with Megan]]> 2019-01-14 16:18:02 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370505 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370985 The North American and French revolutions were pretty similar because they both ended up with new governments. However, North America established a more democratic government with no king and France still had a king (for a while).]]> 2019-01-14 16:18:40 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320370985 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371154 That is a good question, do the after affects of these revolutions affect their similarity?]]> 2019-01-14 16:18:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371154 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371203 I agree with megan that the north american and french revolutions were the most similar, because not only did they have pretty different ways of government, their declarations both show similarities like the belief of freedom of speech and natural rights of man that are unalienable]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:00 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371203 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371257 French and AMerican revolution work hand and hand with each other]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:04 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371257 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371301 I agree with Jamia]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371301 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371455 Both were talking about taxes and unfair treatment]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:22 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371455 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371631 I agree with Ben]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371631 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371743 I agree with Ben]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371743 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371810 I agree with Ben, a lot of the articles in the declarations in both countries are similar]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:53 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371810 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371856 Both were based on enlightment ideals]]> 2019-01-14 16:19:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320371856 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372037 What about the leaders of the French and Latin American revolutions? It is important to recognize that the Bourgeoisie and the Mulattoes were both in similar places being near the middle class/lower middle class.]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:12 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372037 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372093 With what Jason said, does what happens after the revolution affect the answer?]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372093 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372096 I agree- both the French and North American revolutions were heavily influenced by enlightenment ideas, especially since France was inspired by North America. The Declaration of Independence and the Declaration of Rights of Man were also similar, although North America enforced theirs more.]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372096 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372308 Jason, are you saying that the society and environment of both revolution are different?]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372308 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372430 I think that the French and American Revolutions were the most similar because they both started due to unfair taxes. Also, their declarations of independence are very similar. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372430 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372452 revolutions^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372452 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372519 Jamia made a good point, and the economy of France was unstable overall.. however the American economy was less unstable and I think this is partially because there were not these stratified social classes, as there were in France.]]> 2019-01-14 16:20:56 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372519 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372917 I was thinking about what Nick said, in America, the conflict was a lot tamer while in France, the conflict was a lot more aggresive']]> 2019-01-14 16:21:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372917 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372933 Also the NA and french revolutions both include unfair taxation leading up to their revolutions]]> 2019-01-14 16:21:30 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320372933 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373031 The French revolution was much more dramatic and bloody than the North American revolution. This may be in part because Britain didn't care as much about their North American colonies than they did their cash-crop, money making island colonies]]> 2019-01-14 16:21:40 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373031 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373582 Who do you all(in this padlet) think had the most different revolutions?]]> 2019-01-14 16:22:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373582 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373601 I agree i feel like a big reason that the french and american revolutions happened was because of taxes and yuo can see that in their declarations of independence]]> 2019-01-14 16:22:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373601 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373618 The aggressiveness of the French Revolution is a good distinction between the two revolutions. This question doesn't specify that they must be enlightenment rights that are similar.]]> 2019-01-14 16:22:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373618 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373889 How people got power was a really big difference. I feel like it was more balanced in America. In France people just elbowed their way up.]]> 2019-01-14 16:22:48 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320373889 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374231 For differences, maybe French Rev and South America Rev, something like that...]]> 2019-01-14 16:23:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374231 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374548 Going off of what Nick is asking, I think North America and France had different requirements. France needed more of a total reset while America had that reset when they colonized and their revolution was around getting rid of the remaining European influence.]]> 2019-01-14 16:23:43 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374548 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374781 I agree- The French Revolution was more revolutionary (more changed) than the NA revolution because in NA about the same people were in charge and they continued self governing (although it's now official), while in France completely new people were in charge. This is mostly due to old people in charge dying by guillotine, even though basic government structure wasn't incredibly different at the end of the revolution. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:24:02 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320374781 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375466 I agree with Meghan about the enlightment rights that they were based off of ]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375466 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375698 I agree with Meghan aswell on these enlightenment rights]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375698 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375798 They were both based on specific rights]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375798 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375851 On Nicks question, France had more of a corrupt government as it was also unstable as America had a good government but they were just under the british rule. their revolution were more based on to break away from the british as french wanted more equality ]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375851 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375883 Change would simply depend on the situation that the country was already in...]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320375883 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376065 What about the similarities considering Haiti/ Saint Domingue and Latin America?]]> 2019-01-14 16:25:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376065 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376270 I'm glad Jason brought up women, how in France, there were attempts made to give women power]]> 2019-01-14 16:26:11 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376270 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376300 The revolutions were also about MORE than just breaking away from previous governments. Societal changes, like social class distinctions, changed. In France, they even changed their whole calendar during different times in the revolution. The spread of enlightenment ideas was also a change in both revolutions.]]> 2019-01-14 16:26:14 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376300 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376556 I agree with jason but also jordan. why didn't they also question slavery if they were being oppressed too?]]> 2019-01-14 16:26:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376556 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376776 I agree with Jordan, slaves were not accounted for within the constitutions that were made for France and NA]]> 2019-01-14 16:26:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376776 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376816 I think that Adam is basically trying to say that the since the people who led the revolution sustained significant political power following the revolution, their wasn't much change. I disagree because even though they may have sustained power. The citizens were able to choose their leaders and voice their opinions when it came to their government.]]> 2019-01-14 16:26:59 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320376816 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377077 Going off of Jordan's idea of a White Man's World, what about societies where POC had more power? How does that change the revolution compared to predominantly white societies?]]> 2019-01-14 16:27:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377077 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377302 France and NA both started the same way, but greatly changed in the process and result of both revolutions ]]> 2019-01-14 16:27:42 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377302 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377360  I agree with jordan because they were not seen as people but objects to make them money]]> 2019-01-14 16:27:48 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377360 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377513 I agree with Ajanay and Jordan and her explanation. Chatterbox slavery was brutal and unjust. No representation in government]]> 2019-01-14 16:28:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377513 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377588 Comparing the French lower class and American colonists doesn't seem like a direct correlation]]> 2019-01-14 16:28:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377588 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377931 I agree with David because the social system within NA and France was entirely different.]]> 2019-01-14 16:28:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377931 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377976 The discussion has been focused around which revolutions had the most similar motivations, but which revolutions had the most similar results or turnout?]]> 2019-01-14 16:28:42 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377976 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377992 The French lower class was a lot worse while the colonists were mainly on their own]]> 2019-01-14 16:28:43 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320377992 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378168 I agree, the discussion is getting further and further from the question]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378168 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378182 A similarity between American and French revolution was that they were systematically oppressed. Why did they turn out kinda different if they were based on the same ideals and struggles?]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:03 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378182 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378253 Why did slaves gain freedom and power in revolutions like Haiti but not in other places like NA and France?]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378253 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378423 This is a good question brought up by Meghan]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378423 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378557 I feel like diagreeing with Megan , I feel like some revolutions are alike in some differences are named differently for a reason]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378557 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378596 @David, I think they are comparing the French lower class to the American colonists because those are the people that revolted in each society.]]> 2019-01-14 16:29:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320378596 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379033 I think that Jordan's point is similar to Jason's point that he brought up early on in the discussion because he said that the Declaration of Rights of Citizen and Man in France wasn't as strictly enforced as the Declaration of Independence.]]> 2019-01-14 16:30:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379033 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379388 In that sense it would be harder to compare the two, because they were two entirely different things, in a sense. Colonists kind of did their own thing, and there was no strict stratification within NA that made colonists "oppressed" (besides unfair taxing to an extent), while in France if you were a peasant then you were stuck in a sense.]]> 2019-01-14 16:30:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379388 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379415 I agree, the most different were the North American and Haitian revolutions. The Haitian revolution was caused by unfair treatment of slaves (Doc 9, Doc 10), while the North American revolution was caused by British taxation without representation (Doc 1, Doc 2, etc). ]]> 2019-01-14 16:30:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320379415 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380088 Christian, where do you stand in this discussion?]]> 2019-01-14 16:31:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380088 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380426 I agree with Sadie and Megan that NA and Haitian Revolutions were the most different in that Haiti had the motivation of racial tension and NA had the motivation of taxation and representation, ignoring the intersection of gender and race equality.]]> 2019-01-14 16:32:27 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380426 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380609 I feel like part of deciding which are similar/different, they must provide reasons as to why they aren't considering the other revolutions in their discussion. Basically, what about the Haitian and South American Revolutions makes them not similar to either the NA revolution and the French Revolution?]]> 2019-01-14 16:32:43 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380609 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380799 At the same time though they were still struggling economically. They got freedom, but they had no way of making money and they were still struggling because no one wanted to trade with them. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:33:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380799 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380925 I agree the Haitian revolution was the most revolutionary- in the end, they accomplished a ton and completely changed their society. Also when slaves were freed, slave owners couldn't LITERALLY sell their children- it was a major positive change ]]> 2019-01-14 16:33:12 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320380925 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381339 I agree Haiti changed a lot, but there were still in a lot of debt. Just saying]]> 2019-01-14 16:33:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381339 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381341 I diagree with Jamia, yes it is a job but now you have to think that they were asked to be on these plantations again it was kinda like they HAD to, becuase they had to save Haitians economy was to get back on that plantation]]> 2019-01-14 16:33:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381341 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381460 I agree with David. I think comparing Latin American and Haitian Revolutions provides a strong argument.]]> 2019-01-14 16:34:03 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381460 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381768 Yeah i agree that the haitian and NA revolutions were the most different because the NA rev was driven by the unfair taxes placed on them by the british as the haitian rev was driven by the ongoing slavery of going back and forth of being free then not being free any longer. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:34:32 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320381768 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382045 The Haitian revolution was very revolutionary and overall successful in its ultimate goal (like Megan said). ]]> 2019-01-14 16:34:59 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382045 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382193 WHich was to abolish slavery]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382193 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382283 shambles]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382283 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382292 This seems like a debate on whether success is determined by morality or economy.]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:16 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382292 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382317 facts^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382317 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382338 I disagree with Megan, yes the goal was to abolish slavery, but how can you say its successful when people are still starting back where you started ?]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382338 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382486 Agreed ^]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:34 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382486 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382544 Yes, you're right Zhaire]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382544 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382728 I agree with phoebe]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382728 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382740 yessuh zhaire]]> 2019-01-14 16:35:57 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382740 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382767 They still had to work on the same plantations they were enslaved on]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382767 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382775 yay :) ]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:01 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320382775 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383144 I feel like they are straying a little too far from the topic]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383144 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383216 they still had to work on the plantations, even though they did not want to]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383216 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383252 ^^Truth]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383252 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383285 @David Yes Haiti was still in debt, but don't human rights matter a whole lot more? They accomplished what they wanted to, to abolish slavery. I agree with Jordan, freedom mattered a lot more than their economy. Also, slaves in Haiti did not benefit AT ALL from their flourishing economy. Only free white men benefited from that.]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383285 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383354 I agree with what Meagan and Jason because in the end Haiti did accomplish their goal even though they didn't know how to go about their independence. Jason is right as well because it was a lose lose in a way. They abolished slavery but at the end of the day they remained in a similar situation. Also, I think the fact that they were successful so early hurt them because other countries refused to see Haiti as a legit independent state as African were seen as lesser peoples.]]> 2019-01-14 16:36:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383354 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383601 I think we also need to discuss differences]]> 2019-01-14 16:37:20 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383601 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383892 Thank You Jason]]> 2019-01-14 16:37:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383892 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383907 I disagree Christian the Haitian revolution wasnt talking about representation in government]]> 2019-01-14 16:37:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320383907 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384012 Only the french revolution was ]]> 2019-01-14 16:37:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384012 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384147 I believe that Haiti's revolution was successful in that it established a precedent of change, specifically about slavery in a world where that was not supported.]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384147 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384278 And which documents are being used]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384278 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384413 Have they even used the documents?]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384413 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384466 Good points being made, nonetheless..]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384466 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384566 I agree with david and sadie in a way? because haiti was in debt and needed a way to make money quick for their economy, but they should not be placed to work on a plantation against their will once again, that is ethically and morally wrong and goes completely against enlightenment rights ]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384566 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384596 The end result wasn't perfect or even super good, even free people in Haiti had to work on plantations, but the point is they were free; they weren't forced to do anything and their families were kept together. Their goal was to free slaves and that's what they did, even though some things like economy were damaged as a result. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:38:46 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320384596 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385085 I have to disagree with Christian...]]> 2019-01-14 16:39:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385085 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385141 really good question]]> 2019-01-14 16:39:32 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385141 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385224 shook]]> 2019-01-14 16:39:41 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385224 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385253 I agree, it is a major improvement, I just don't see it as a complete success economically.]]> 2019-01-14 16:39:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385253 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385406 I agree with David, economically....]]> 2019-01-14 16:39:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385406 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385514 wasn't the best outcome for the country as a whole]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:07 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385514 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385584 That question brings up a lot of perspectives and hypotheticals, it's really good.]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:13 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385584 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385658 I agree economically ]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385658 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385699 The revolution sort of wrecked the economy]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385699 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385778 i love that question sister adam good job loved that]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385778 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385800 I think that the most different were the Mexican Revolution and the French Revolution because in Mexico the Catholic church united people as seen in document 13 with Father Hidalgo united the mestizos and the Natives while the Catholic Church during the French Revolution divided the people. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385800 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385971 sister adam lmao]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385971 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385984 ^^I think the main goal was more socially]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320385984 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386007 That was I was thinking Xaveon]]> 2019-01-14 16:40:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386007 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386597 Yeah I definitely agree, because I don't necessarily think they were thinking about what would happen to the country after the revolution]]> 2019-01-14 16:41:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386597 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386812 because their overarching goal was to abolish slavery]]> 2019-01-14 16:42:08 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320386812 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387365 wouldnt that be after the revolution though? ]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:11 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387365 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387440 Haiti wouldn't even need a revolution or to rebuild their economy if European countries hadn't wrecked it in the first place]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387440 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387511 good point]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:27 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387511 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387532 OOP]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:30 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387532 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387592 oooof ^]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387592 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387604 Does after the revolution come into play as similarities and differences?]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387604 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387633 go offfff]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:41 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387633 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387788 Document 10 only includes SOME of the articles, not ALL. Without extra research we can't be sure what the entirety of the document included.]]> 2019-01-14 16:43:54 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387788 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387925 I agree with Phoebe]]> 2019-01-14 16:44:05 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387925 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387984 @David I would assume so ]]> 2019-01-14 16:44:11 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320387984 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388092 (Document 10 was the Haitian Constitution of 1801)]]> 2019-01-14 16:44:21 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388092 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388238 I was thinking that too Phoebe]]> 2019-01-14 16:44:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388238 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388669 @ David I think that the consequences of the revolutions should be considered because the wording of the question is so open ended.]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:02 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388669 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388876 I feel like they SOO off topic :/]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:20 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388876 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388990 i agree with victoria, they would not think of the future when they are so driven to abolish slavery]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:30 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320388990 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389001 ^]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389001 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389039 @Phoebe, I agree, I wasn't sure if they had covered that]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389039 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389174 yes this is kinda off topic ]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389174 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389342 does not answer how these are similar or different]]> 2019-01-14 16:45:59 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389342 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389536 If slavery was abolished earlier in NA the economy would probably have been shambles too but it was inevitable and human rights really matter more]]> 2019-01-14 16:46:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389536 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389913 I agree with Megan]]> 2019-01-14 16:46:50 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320389913 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390269 @Sadie, That sums it up really nicely, it was just kinda a lose lose scenario because the economy was just so based on slavery.]]> 2019-01-14 16:47:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390269 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390324 So Victoria, are you saying that since the matter was so pressing the Haitians took action immediately while what happens after the revolution is a "we'll cross that bridge when we get there" type of thing]]> 2019-01-14 16:47:23 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390324 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390344 I agree with Megan, as well. "All men" didn't necessarily include those who were considered slaves]]> 2019-01-14 16:47:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390344 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390548 ^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:47:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320390548 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391202 The painting (The Mural of Father Hidalgo) shows that religious figures led the Mexican revolution.]]> 2019-01-14 16:48:36 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391202 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391724 I think that this is so because in other countries since the government was within the state they were interconnected with the church while in Mexico the government was overseas so they weren't as connected with the church. ]]> 2019-01-14 16:49:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391724 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391853 I agree with Christian, religion in the Mexican Revolution played a more positive role overall]]> 2019-01-14 16:49:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320391853 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392140 I think it's weird that religion remained so strong in the forefront of the Mexican Revolution considering that it could be considered a symbol of European colonization.]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:17 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392140 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392288 They should also mention how when the Mexican Revolution was heavily influenced by Religion, in France, the exact opposite was occurring where there was kind of a move away from church values.]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392288 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392300 compare the role of catholicism in french rev and religion in the mexican revolution]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:29 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392300 10029669 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392464 How do enlightenment ideals play into the similarities of the revolutions?]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:46 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392464 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392517 ^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392517 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392567 Revolutions tended to be fights against the government/oppressors, and religion was often tied into that. However, that wasn't the case in Mexico because they didn't view their religion as directly tied to their oppressors; they fought WITH religion instead of against it]]> 2019-01-14 16:50:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392567 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392715 ^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:51:13 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392715 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392889 sadie i agree bro]]> 2019-01-14 16:51:28 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320392889 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393202 Why were enlightenment ideas more prominent in revolutions like the French instead of the Mexican?]]> 2019-01-14 16:52:00 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393202 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393369 @Phoebe I think its because it became such a big part of Mexican culture, as the Spanish had such a big influence on that particular area, but if that's the case then I'm not so sure about why the Spanish didn't have that big of an impact in other places, like they did in Mexico]]> 2019-01-14 16:52:16 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393369 00054352 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393392 Religiously]]> 2019-01-14 16:52:18 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393392 00055304 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393687 good job christian with bringing victoria more in the conversation]]> 2019-01-14 16:52:47 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393687 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393998 I kind diagree .. with victoria I feel the reaoning was different but they still were both revolting and going agasint a higher power]]> 2019-01-14 16:53:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320393998 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394054 Good question posed by Ben]]> 2019-01-14 16:53:24 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394054 00028590 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394133 I feel like what megan said all of them have similarities with enlightment]]> 2019-01-14 16:53:33 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394133 10030514 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394639 I kind of agree with what Ben is saying. I remember that the Crash Course videos mentioned that some Enlightenment thinkers thought the enlightenment would bring an end to religion, that it was "superstitious".]]> 2019-01-14 16:54:15 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394639 00032210 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394828 Good Job Team!!! #BlythewoodBattleBeatles #GoBeatles]]> 2019-01-14 16:54:35 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394828 10029670 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394942 ^^]]> 2019-01-14 16:54:49 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394942 100312611 https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394990 I agree with Phoebe, also many enlightenment thinkers were European so they may not have had as much influence elsewhere ]]> 2019-01-14 16:54:54 UTC https://padlet.com/aours/h94yd9bykl2x/wish/320394990