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Timelsot: Thursday, 25/Mar/2021: 
4:00pm - 5:30

book proposal (deadline 1.3.2021)

• Transcription of the discussion as proposal

questions?

Play organization

• 3 presentations in a row 
• Short summary
• 2 presentations
• Question in chat-box

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Short introduction (~ 5 minutes)

• Welcome Snippet
• aims, scope of the symposium
• structure of the session

5 Short presentations ( ~ 7 minute each = 40')

• Una
• Carlos
• Eeva
  • short summary and little break (Oliver & Johannes)
• Julian
• Johannes

Questions to the presentations and specific understandings ?!? (5')

Discussion (~ 20')

Open Discussion (~ 25')

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What dimensions do we want to adress, or focus?

• teacher role (be part of the group or not)
• concept of music (Jazz, Avantgarde, cross-over / social)
• social interaction with music / musicians' roles (leading, supporting ...)
• freedom and boundaries
• assessment
• normative dimensions of improvisation in music education
• methodological approaches
• national differences and discourses in comparison
• overarching philosophies
• didactic perspectives, purposes of teaching improvisation
• relation between different ideas/concepts of improvisation
• Play as a concept
• Connection of Improvisation and Composition
• Improvisation in teacher training

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checking the chat and pick up questions

starting the discussion with a summary, mention and suggest the crucial points for discussion

starting round: "What is improvisation?" (one sentence)

Critical comments on empirical methods

To show and discuss the (different?) national perspectives and common grounds is a good theme

historical roots of improvisation in the different countries

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Should we talk about agency instead of freedom: how to achieve improvisational and creative agency in compulsory music lessons?

• What role does voluntariness play in improvisation? the concept of PLAY
• How do we deal with Freedom as a relational concept….free from what? Or whom? Genres?

Can we teach improvisation /what are the (socio-ecological) conditions that support improvisation in music education?

• How do we talk about improvisation (with the students)? 

How is the freedom of expression related to musical skills and experience? What do different skill levels and characters within an improvising group mean for authority and the visions of freedom and equity?

Julians questions from the presentation: Should transitions to the interpretation of notated music be made fluently, or should improvisation stand on its own as a clearly delineated practice?
Is moving on an imaginary continuum between idiomatic, more structured forms of improvisation on one hand, and free forms of improvisation on the other, interesting in pedagogical settings?
Or are these practices so different that each should stand on its own and be taught within its own logic and tradition?

Johannes' question from the presentation: How can we initiate improvisation, as the musical negotiation of normative codes, and how can we promote their "pleasurable dismantling" by the students?

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Teachers as researchers as common within improvisation?

National perspecitves in comparison? 

Common aspects of all the projects?

Consequences for teacher training?

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Welcome

Order and Themes

Chat-function for audience question

Recording for scientific purposes

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local/national specifics are not that necessary

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