https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv What will happen between Ralph and Jack? Is Ralph the leader the boys need, or the leader the boys want? Would Jack be fit to be leader? What will become of the beast? en-us 2016-09-29 17:04:18 UTC 2025-09-30 04:41:25 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361021 Jack ( Alejandra Martinez)
We should go and kill the beast for meat we need it and it would be two birds with one stone.

But then the little kids will get scared that a beast is around.

But then they will scare themselves plus you always need to be sure about it, it won't hurt anyone if we go looking and if there isn't  it will not hurt anyone.

Beasts are not real okay and plus if lets just say that there is we could make weapons to kill it we could have the hunters make sharp weapons to kill it with my knife.

So the little kids will stop believing in one. We are worried about it because the littuns are having nightmares like you said and to make them stop or at least them knowing it is not true we need to make them believe that we believe so we go and we find nothing.

Well we need them to believe it to stop believing because they will just want us hunt it and kill it so if we do and say there was nothing there then they will believe older people unless you have a different idea. Because I just want to get this over with already it is getting on my nerves. 

Well how do we just tell them that if we did before and what happened. Sam and Eric made up this whole story about the description of the beast how do we tell them it is not real if now they have a visual image.

Course I do not, beats are not real. No but the littluns do, so what will you do about them? How will you convince them? How will you help them? How are you going to make that visual image disappear out of there minds? Tell me because that will be a waste of my time I could have killed another pig if we were not so worried about this dumb beast. 

We need the meat!!!!!!!!!!!! Give me some ideas because I am the only one who does.





]]> 2016-09-29 18:13:29 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361021 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361213 jack:as the leader of the hunters it my job to make sure we come back with meat
you should worry less about what me and MY hunters do and worry about your jobs
I will control my crew once you start controlling the little ones and piggy's smart mouth
yet your the one wasting time yelling about the beast and not helping my hunt it down 
You should thank me because of my hunting skills you'll have a chance of killing the beast but if you didn't have me and my hunters than you wouldn't know what to do or what to use to kill it with

If you know so much about the beast why don't you go out and kill it?Oh yeah I remember I'm the one with all the weapons Your not the one who came with a knife and made more weapons

hahahahahaha you think killing that pig was easy you go out and do it.Even though you think all I do is think about killing Thanks to that i'll probably be better help than you can imagine 

Fine ralph you act like the chief now but later on i'll be the one making all the calls and you'll have to listen to me so enjoy the power for now]]> 2016-09-29 18:14:00 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361213 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361430 (Jack)
We need to kill the beast and build a rock fort on the castle. We can light the fire later it's not as important right now. Fine but if we can't find the beast later, then it's all on you. Alright (eyeroll), but if I was leader that beast would be dead right now and everybody wouldn't have to worry anymore. Not a good leader at that, focusing on the fire instead of the safety and security of all of us. We need kill it. I would be wizard Ralph. I would demand respect and control. They would actually listen to me you're just a joke. As a leader, what have you actually accomplished. Nothing, we still haven't been rescued have we. I have delivered on my promises I killed that pig and we all ate. You got chosen for the chief a while ago but they would make that choice again. I'll follow your orders for now, but who knows in the future]]> 2016-09-29 18:14:32 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361430 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361997 Ralph: No, we should go and light the fire instead. Because it´s more important than making a fort at the moment. Besides, what if there´s a ship on the ocean sailing near us right now? Hey, I´m leader, don´t question my abilities or my authority, I know what I´m doing. But, as long as we stay away from the beast, we don´t need to worry about it. And don´t get any ideas, I´m the leader! I am! That´s why we need to stay together. By the way, in what way or form are you capable of being a leader? That may be true, but do you remember who these kids voted for when we first met. When you came with the choir and they were all exhausted, these kids believed in me to be a better leader than you are. And you know what, they still might believe in me now.]]> 2016-09-29 18:15:43 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127361997 198090 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362071 Ralph: Littluns calm down!
Jack don't even say anything, your focus is just as off as theirs . Jack there is no beast! Stop putting that idea in their head. You didn't build the shelters ! We could've got saved, you were suppose to be making sure the fire didn't go out but you went to kill the pig instead ! Any ways everyone needs to do their job . Those rocks are for the lavatory only! We need to use the rocks again . And from now on if you want to cook food you'll have to use the fire on the mountain.  Okay fine .


If you think you see the beast, fine we'll go look for it , let's eat first . 
Jack is there anywhere you haven't been?]]> 2016-09-29 18:15:52 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362071 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362331 Ralph:
:*Hey I don't think we need to kill the beast all we have to do is figure out a way to get to the top of the mountain to light  the fire.
:*But what if we don't get saved?! we have to light the fire if we want to leave and leave that creature alone , that might not even exist.
:*your job as hunters is to find food not kill just for fun!!
:*yeah sure they are going to be afraid but you keep acting as if it existed. Im the leader and you all voted so you guys have to listen and obey the rules.We just need to go up the mountain and turn on the fire.There is no need to complicate things.
:*I care and for all i know ,I'm at least trying to keep us all alive unlike you,who would send everyone to kill animals and  get yourselves killed.
:*Because the rules are only thing we have from going savage!


]]> 2016-09-29 18:16:27 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362331 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362758 Jack:]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:24 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362758 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362770 2016-09-29 18:17:25 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362770 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362783 Ralph: Since i'm chief, I need to think of a way to get everyone on track and help out with things. 
Ralph: All you think about is meat , you don't worry about helping out with the shelters , keeping your crew on track , or help out with anything else, you've been hunting for a while now and you only killed one pig. 
Ralph: Maybe i will worry about what we have to do but you don't control your crew and tell them what to do. Because of your irresponsibility they didn't pay attention to the fire and now it's out. 
Ralph: You have a group of kids that are older than the little ones yet they act the same. Piggy Is useful for many things, he's smart and can help out looking for the beast. You only focus on killing and killing , thinking like that and going all out when we look for him will not do good . 
Ralph: You are wanting to hunt and kill it because it scares everyone but i want to get rid of it so we start up the fire once again, focus on what's more important and let your savagery go for a little . 
Ralph: Don't think because you killed a pig you're a pro, the pig couldn't defend himself , the beast can , have you thought of that ? 
Ralph: What have those weapons helped you with ? All you did was kill one single pig, with my intelligence, piggy's, Simon's and the others we can figure it out . You think you're all that for killing a pig but what else have you done ? 
Ralph: You're not no help! Better help ? please , everyone knows that is a lie, that's why i was chosen as chief and you weren't . Enough arguing and let's focus on what we  came to.  
Ralph : Whatever floats your boat . Let's head to the mountain]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:26 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362783 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362784 Ralph: 
Are you kidding? You want to kill the beast? I think we should find another way around the ¨beast¨ so no one here gets killed by it.
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As a matter of fact, there is no beast on this island at all! So forget about it and let's just get to the top of the mountain and light the fire.
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Well if there was a beast on this island, by now we would have been dead from it.
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And so if there is one, your gonna kill it right away? No plan, no thinking, no nothing? Because you're going to die going for it.
I am the leader. And I say, we go for the top of the mountain and light the fire and not worry about the ¨beast¨.]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:26 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362784 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362832 Jack:Cool it Ralph, they´re just kids ,they can´t do anything to help anyway.Shut it Ralph, I´ve been doing the most around here.You´re the one who has the littleuns terrified of a beast that i could´ve killed a long time ago but nooo we have to build a ¨shelter¨.I killed a pig Ralph.If it wasn´t for me, we wouldn´t have even had food to eat and food is the only thing that can keep us filled with energy.And the beast IS REAL we have already had 2 encounters with it so maybe we can focus on that so the littleuns and I can actually get some sleep.Okay,okay the fire on the mountain was my fault but I still brought meat.Ralph,the bottom line is we need to survive So at some point we need a plan to do so.Let´s sleep on it and discuss it tomorrow.Not really but we can still double check everywhere

]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362832 199322 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362854 ( Ralph ) What if there really is a beast ?  
But they keep saying they see something , all of em  and you yourself thought it was real , you said if there was you'd kill it yourself.

 You've been through all the island but no the shore or sea beyond . Yeah but still just saying there is  nothing and that there just babies will not suddenly make them lose this fear of the beast . First of all they voted me as leader ,   and if you were leader what would you do , hunt pigs all day .

 All you do is hunt and pig this pig that everyday , I do the things around here and you nothing . They listen to you because they fear you , not even your hunters listen to you that much . 

You couldn't even be a good leader , you let our only chance of getting off this island get away because of your obsession of killing the  pig .

you want meat

fine ill go build huts and keep things in check


]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:37 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362854 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362947 (Ralph)
- we need to go kill the beast to light the fire again.

- But more importantly we need to light the fire again to get rescued. 

-your right we need a plan.

- we need to split up into groups we need people to stay back and watch the camp while you me and the hunters go check the mountain.

- good idea ill go with you and let piggy watch the camp with the littluns.

]]> 2016-09-29 18:17:49 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127362947 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363013 2016-09-29 18:17:59 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363013 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363028 Ralph: Jack and I should work together so we can check if the beast is real and if the beast is real we will kill it.

Ralph: Sam and Eric say they have seen the beast also it has teeth and claws. Well I still don't think that the beast is real but we have to be brave and handle the situation. 

Ralph: We should bring some of your hunters and weapons so if we need to fight we will be ready.

Ralph: Alright are you really sure that you want to go find this beast and I think you should bring your best hunters.


]]> 2016-09-29 18:18:01 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363028 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363683 Jack:
-What are you talking about? Of course we have to kill the beast , how are we going to live with that fear that the beast still might be out there!
-Our job as hunters  is to hunt down the beast!
- And all the littluns of course their going to be scared everyone usually gets frighten and it's just a matter of putting up with it.
- it doesn't matter for I all I care the beast is important and I would have been a better leader than you 
-Who cares that your chief all you do is give rules! rules! rules!

]]> 2016-09-29 18:19:15 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363683 198143 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363868 Jack 
Then as hunters it is our job to kill it. So we should head up there as fast as we can. If it is true, then we have to kill it. Does it matter. We should hurry if we want to kill the beast. If we don kill the beast the littluns will still be afraid. ]]> 2016-09-29 18:19:38 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127363868 1990481 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364199
Jack: "I don't have time for this mess. I feel like I'm being attacked for what I am trying to do and say. I killed a pig for this dumb group and what do I get in return!? 
Jack: "You shouldn't even be leader you are so self consumed and what about how you hurt piggy's feelings. I see how you purposely out him in every decision you make. You dang near made him cry about his name. Is that good character of a proper leader? To laugh upon your people that made you who you are in this moment"
Jack: Well at least I'm not scared of figments of my imagination you wanker. Look, I apologized to him because I realized I was wrong but you can't. You are a coward Ralph!"
Jack: "No, you wouldn't even find the beast if it was right in front of your ugly face! You have no good intention just none, all you want is power. I should be leader! Chief! The Big Boss! Me!"]]> 2016-09-29 18:20:29 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364199 198809 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364504 Ralph: (Oscar)
 "Well I think you shouldn't get something in return because you did not follow directions in the first place. I clearly told you to keep the fire going and you didn't." 
Ralph: "Well at least I didn't physically hurt him, you punched and slapped him. On top of that you even managed to break one of his lenses. I wouldn't want  our chief to be someone who physically hurts the rest. 
Ralph: Even if I was afraid of the beast I would know how to take care of it. I was the one who figured out where the beast might have been. And I don't have to apologize because I don' t cause problems like you. 
Ralph: " I would like to see you try being chief. Only I am capable of of being chief, it takes more than you walnut sized brain to lead this group, and that is why all you do is hunt."  
 ]]> 2016-09-29 18:21:06 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364504 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364512 Ralph:  No. We can't just recklessly hunt the beast. We don't know what it's capable of.

The beast is nothing like a pig. You guys are also forgetting about the fire! 

You guys made me chief for a reason. I say that we make a plan before we go and get our self into a mess of trouble.

Fine. But only me and Jack will go. I do not want to put anyone else in harms way.

That's enough Jack. I've done too much compromising already . Either you and I go,or no one goes at all.]]> 2016-09-29 18:21:07 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364512 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364813 Ralph; We've got to go back to the shelter and rest. The only way we will survive and get rescued is if we go back to the shelter, eat, rest and have the fire started. When the littluns came back I saw that they had scratches around their face and arms like something scratched them.]]> 2016-09-29 18:21:49 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364813 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364996 Jack: Let's get after it and hunt this beast! I'm your perfect guy.

The hunters led by me have killed a pig already. It's not that hard to spill blood.

Stop being such babies who all they do is waste time. The weak will be left behind, they'll only get in the way.

What plan? Look...all we have to do is send the hunters and I on our way and from there no one will need to worry about this puny "beastie"and we'll be able to get our fire.

No! What if we find the beast and need to kill it? We need more people, it's only wise to do so.

Well I guess the beast is on the loose!







]]> 2016-09-29 18:22:19 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127364996 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365061 Judi: Ralph
Angela: Jack
Ralph: Jack! Stop all you're gunna talk about is hunting! You rarely help-
Ralph:  I build the shelters, I directed the littluns, I call the meetings! I am the leader! Everything's falling out of place, nobody concentrates, the islands getting destroyed, and everybody's afraid. Don't you want to get off this island? 
Ralph: Everyone's scared because of the beast!
Ralph: But there is no beast!
Ralph: Fine then, lets have a vote.
(everyone votes that there is ghosts)


]]> 2016-09-29 18:22:28 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365061 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365074 Ralph: (Mina)
Well, we don´t know exactly where the beast is, so we can´t just wander around looking for something possibly dangerous. 

Well how do we even know for sure that there is a beast? I mean you never know if Sam and Eric just want to scare everyone. 

 And if there is? What do you expect us to do? We don´t have the necessary weapons to kill it for our safety. And what if it finds us first? Then what? How are we going to kill it if we aren´t prepared.  

Well if beasts aren´t real, then  what´s the point of looking for one? We can´t find something non-existent. I understand where you´re coming from but, why do we need to look for something that you are saying isn´t real. If it isn´t real, why are we so worried about it? 

The problem is that you are making it even more realistic, telling the littleuns that we have to hunt it and kill it. If you believe it doesn´t exist, stop centering our lives around it because you´re just making them believe that there is something to kill.   

Why don´t you just tell them that it doesn´t exist. You´re saying the littleuns will believe us because we´re like the adults in their eyes but you´re saying that we have to make it realistic to make them think that it isn´t real. If you know that it´s not real then just tell them instead of running your head in circles trying to convince them that we do have to kill a ¨beast¨. 

Well maybe they faked that image. OK the real question is: do you believe them or not? Does their visual description make you believe it's real? Because we'll only go hunt it if you think that there is a possibility that there is a beast on this island because if not, what's the point? 

Why are you so caught up on killing pigs?! Pigs aren't our focus right now, or haven't you noticed that? We need to find a way to get off this island. I know that YOU want meat but it isn't a need for us. We don't need it. The only thing that matters is convincing the littleuns that there is no beast. No one cares about meat, especially in a time like this. ]]> 2016-09-29 18:22:29 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365074 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365289 Ralph:Sam and Eric clearly said that they saw the beast in the mountain. They are kids and we don't know if it's true or not. Then I will go with you. But if we are going who is watching over the littluns. Then Piggy will just watch over them. Stop thinking about killing we need to light the fire. We NEED to get rescued. You are not the leader, you don't call the shots. They voted me for a reason. Main focus is the fire. We will eat then we'll go.

]]> 2016-09-29 18:23:02 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365289 198687 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365398 ( Jack ) There is not beast, it's just that those littluns are a bunch of wusses. They are imagining things.  
 I said if there was a beast, but there is not. We have been on this island for a long time now, if there was a beast, it would've eaten us by now or you're just hallucinating. 

If you won't take control of the littluns, I will. The littluns don't even listen to you, they listen to me, I made them help me kill that pig, I can make em do more than you.

We needed meat. 

I'm gonna go hunt some more and check the fire. ]]> 2016-09-29 18:23:15 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127365398 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366316 Ralph:The beast isn't real ! the littluns just have a wild imagination. It's all made up

Jack:U never know . Kids are curious and always find things they shouldn't. We need to kill the beast NOW!!!

Ralph: Even if it is real we should still focus on being rescued. What's been up with u lately ? All you want to do is kill! Nothing else.


]]> 2016-09-29 18:25:22 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366316 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366423 Jack: 
-yah, We need to go kill the beast for its meat, so we can eat and survive on the island.

- but wait we can't get ahead of our self we don't know what the beast is capable of. 

-What should be the plan leader.

-alright what's the plan

-Let me go get my hunter .]]> 2016-09-29 18:25:38 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366423 199323 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366988 Jack: Ralph lets go and try to see if the beast is real or if Sam and Eric might understood it for something else.

Well I agree with you that the beast might not be real but we need to proof to Sam and Eric that to maybe they were just Making the story up because they wanted us to get scared.

OK so let me go call some of my hunters and our best weapons and be ready for it, if its actually real so we can kill it and for the littluns won't be scared of it they see it.]]> 2016-09-29 18:27:14 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127366988 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127367153 Jack: Angela 
Ralph: Judi 
I keep some of the littluns occupied by hunting, we hunt everyday, I bring meat, you need me! 
How are we gonna get off this island if everyone's surrounded by fear. 
We need to go kill it 
Tell that to the littluns, they even think that there's ghost 
(everyone votes that there is a ghost) 






]]> 2016-09-29 18:27:40 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127367153 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127369098 Jack: This beast has to die! I do not want to worry about this beast.
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But how are you sure that there is no beast.
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you never know if the beast knew we were here. Lets go up the mountain and see if the beast is there or not, and if there is, lets kill It! 
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But we have the hunters with us, to help.


]]> 2016-09-29 18:33:34 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127369098 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127370126 Jack; We need to kill it! I want the beasts meat! 
Jack;  Cause it's the beast, I just want to kill it .
Jack; Well it doesn't matter why I want to kill it because you want it dead too.
Jack; Exactly and we'll benefit from it cause we'll be able to get meat from it.
Jack; Well I guess we'll have to find out. ]]> 2016-09-29 18:35:56 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127370126 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127371008 Ralph:we need to check it out to see if the beast is real or not.
Ralph:why do you want to kill it
Ralph:if it's real we need to kill it to get to the fire . 
Ralph:Well you do have a point,But how do you know it's real sam and eric are kids and they have active imagination

]]> 2016-09-29 18:38:30 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127371008 https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127371422 Ralph: The beast isn't real! the littluns just have a wild imagination. Its all made up!

Jack:  You never know. Kids are curious and always finds thing they shouldn't. We need to kill the beast NOW!

Ralph: Even if it is real we should be focused in getting rescued. What's been up with you lately? All you want to do is kill! Nothing else ]]> 2016-09-29 18:39:43 UTC https://padlet.com/iarauz/g0rg285r43fv/wish/127371422