Discussing Gatsby by Graham Vogt https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf Share your incredible wisdom and insights here en-us 2018-11-20 16:32:08 UTC 2026-03-10 19:30:37 UTC hello@padlet.com Some background history of The Great Gatsby thomas_ma1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309041014 2018-11-28 20:40:17 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309041014 Question thomas_ma1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309045325 Why did the author write a lot about the old man with the owl-eyed spectacles? Is he an important character? Or Scott Fitzgerald wants to tell something to the readers through this character.

]]> 2018-11-28 20:50:32 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309045325 “He smiled understandingly-much more than understandingly. It was one of those rare smiles with a quality of eternal reassurance in it, that you may come across four or five times in life. It faced--or seemed to face--the whole eternal world for an instant, and then concentrated on you with an irresistible prejudice in your favor. It understood you just as far as you wanted to be understood, believed in you as you would like to believe in yourself, and assured you that it had precisely the impression of you that, at your best, you hoped to convey.” https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309085762 This passage captures Gatsby's charisma and very often, people with this kind of charisma are very good at manipulating others. Gatsby has the ability to make people feel important and reflect the most optimistic conception of themselves. It is this very charisma of Gatsby that eventually pushes Daisy away from him. It's too toxic and leaves no room for other people to have any individuality. 
If I meet someone like Gatsby, I would find that person very dangerous and suspicious. His smile is literally attacking every little parts of your confidence and making you believe in whatever he tries to convince you. I would wonder what this person is trying to hide and most people would fall if they can't identify it quick enough.]]> 2018-11-28 23:14:30 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309085762 Passage analysis and connection to my life. rachel_ding https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309089296 “He smiled understandingly-much more than understandingly. It was one of those rare smiles with a quality of eternal reassurance in it, that you may come across four or five times in life. It faced--or seemed to face--the whole eternal world for an instant, and then concentrated on you with an irresistible prejudice in your favor. It understood you just as far as you wanted to be understood, believed in you as you would like to believe in yourself, and assured you that it had precisely the impression of you that, at your best, you hoped to convey.”


This passage captures Gatsby's charisma and very often, people with this kind of charisma are very good at manipulating others. Gatsby has the ability to make people feel important and reflect the most optimistic conception of themselves. It is this very charisma of Gatsby that eventually pushes Daisy away from him. It's too toxic and leaves no room for other people to have any individuality. 
If I meet someone like Gatsby, I would find that person very dangerous and suspicious. His smile is literally attacking every little parts of your confidence and making you believe in whatever he tries to convince you. I would wonder what this person is trying to hide and most people would fall if they can't identify it quick enough.

]]> 2018-11-28 23:31:49 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309089296 "I liked to walk along Fifth Avenue and pick out the romantic women from the crowd and imagine that in a few minutes I was going to enter into their lives, and no one would ever know or disapprove." catherine_spears https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309473782 This is a significant quote in the chapter plot because it shows that Social classes separated people in society in this time. While Gatsby was a nice young gentleman, he didn't have the incredible amounts of wealth and fortune that characters like Tom and Gatsby did. As well, I believe that Tom is single, but still content with his life, is because he didn't want to join the rest of society and their facade of what was considered to be "true love".  By this, I mean that most women married for money, and most men married because of lust and pride rather than genuine love. For these reasons, I believe that Gatsby was always dreaming of finding true and genuine love, and not the kind of fake and lustful love which most people in that day and age desired.


]]> 2018-11-29 18:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309473782 "I was still with Jordan Baker. We were sitting at a table with a man of about my age and rowdy little girl, who gave way upon the slightest provocation to uncontrollable laughter." thomas_ma1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309603711 This passage is the only description of Gatsby. The author writes every character detailed except Gatsby who is the most important character in this book. By  using this way, the author gives Gatsby a feeling of mysterious and let the readers to feel Nick's feeling at that night. Gatsby is like a ghost and Nick knows anything about him. Furthermore, the guess and description from others let Gatsby become a delusion among people. From his behavior, we can know that he is a playboy, wealthy gentlemanlike and knowledgeable. His smile, however, tells readers there's more story behind Gatsby.]]> 2018-11-30 00:11:40 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/309603711 Question https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310203013 In The Great Gatsby, Fitzgerald's main innovation was to introduce a first person narrator and protagonist whose consciousness filters the story's events. Why do authors want to use Nick's description as the main line of the story? What are the literary features?]]> 2018-12-02 18:56:59 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310203013 Question ginger_yang https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310205144 In The Great Gatsby, Fitzgerald's main innovation was to introduce a first person narrator and protagonist whose consciousness filters the story's events. Why do authors want to use Nick's description as the main line of the story? What are the literary features?]]> 2018-12-02 19:13:04 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310205144 A website might help you ginger_yang https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310205472 2018-12-02 19:15:36 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310205472 A dead man passed us in a hearse heaped with blooms, followed by two carriages with drawn blinds, and by more cheerful carriages for friends. The friends looked out at us with the tragic eyes and short upper lips of southeastern Europe, and I was glad that the sight of Gatsby’s splendid car was included in their somber holiday. As we crossed Blackwell’s Island a limousine passed us, driven by a white chauffeur, in which sat three modish negroes, two bucks and a girl. I laughed aloud as the yolks of their eyeballs rolled toward us in haughty rivalry rachel_ding https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310693820 1. dead man is here to foreshadow the death of Gatsby at the end of the book. People go to NYC with laughter and leave with tragic. 
2. Automobile is a symbol for social status in this book. And cars driving on the bridge represents power and wealth get you both happiness and tears.
At the party, owl eyed man was involved in a car accident, and the book has mentioned that Jordan Baker drives carelessly. These details reveals that in the 1920s, wealthy people don't treat their power and wealth with the right attitude so they always end up with a tragic life.
3. it's interesting how Caucasian is driving for colored people. It represents the accessibility of the American dream. Anything's possible even Gatsby. Gatsby is the ideals of the American dream, he has everything everyone wants and you can be anyone and anything you want to be and have.

]]> 2018-12-03 23:32:37 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310693820 Answer to Owl eye man - symbolic of the eye. william_wang3 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310707046 I think everyone in this book is a symbol and a metaphor. In the book, he appears at Gatsby's party, but he is drinking at Gatsby's library.  "See!" he cried triumphantly. "It's a bona-fide piece of printed matter. It fooled me. This fella's a regular Belasco. It's a triumph. What thoroughness! What realism! Knew when to stop, too – didn't cut the pages. But what do you want? What do you expect?" He is the only guest didn't fool by Gatsby or he is the only one wise enough to investigate further.  First, the owl man finds out the books are real.So, Gatsby's is trying to fool people: he's actually gone out and purchased real books. But, as the man discovers, he hasn't cut the pages and actually read them.  Gatsby knows how much he has to do to fool people, and he knows that he doesn't need to cut the pages. Nobody in this party is going to check, because they're just as fake as he is. That's what the owl-eyed man sees.  The eye of the Owl man is the symbol of wise and true. In the story, there is another "eye" which is T.J.Eckleburg, the eye of God or the symoblic of the death of America dream.  ]]> 2018-12-04 00:56:27 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/310707046 "It's a great advantage not to drink among hard-drinking people. You can hold your tongue, and moreover, you can time any little irregularity so that everybody else is so blind that they don't see or care. Perhaps Daisy never went in for amour at all-"(pg 77) adam_duggan1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/311203949 I found it quite interesting that both Gatsby and Daisy are non-drinkers, and believe that this is not a accidental coincidence of Fitzgerald's writing. Daisy and Gatsby both have something to hide, and both would do well if their secrets are not exposed. Gatsby is not who he claims himself to be, and Daisy is not in love as she pretends. Ironically, later in the novel when Daisy is visiting Nick and Gatsby, they drink Chartreuse (an alcoholic beverage)at Gatsby's house. This is a major turning point, as the facade upheld by both of these characters begins to deteriorate after the consumption of alcohol. We start to notice Daisy and Gatsby's affection for one another, and Gatsby's vast persona deteriorates as we realize how simple his bedroom is. The alcohol (in a time of prohibition might I add) affects both Daisy and Gatsby and they start to reveal some inner secrets as their facades crumble. ]]> 2018-12-05 02:15:46 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/311203949 Symbolism of beautiful shirts rachel_ding https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/311881000 This scene represents Gatsby's superficial nature and his value. Gatsby throws the shirts is an act of overly displaying his wealth to Daisy. He knows Daisy values material goods and he wants to impress her with what she wants. Both Gatsby and Daisy value those extravagant things. Those shirts also represents Gatsby's fancy exterior appearance, but under the glamours surface, it's a corrupted and troubled soul. 

Daisy sobbed because she knows the happiness is temporary. She knows she can't leave Tom as she is going to take a huge risk if she does that. But now, Gatsby also can provide her with material things, so she is struggling with the choice she has now.]]> 2018-12-06 16:11:25 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/311881000 Character Analysis ginger_yang https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/312529873 Daisy's Dual Image
Daisy really loves white. She always wears

]]> 2018-12-08 17:19:20 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/312529873 chapter 6 some useful information william_wang3 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/312744843 Fitzgerald uses the character of Dan Cody to subtly suggest that the America of the 1920s is no longer a place where self-made men can thrive. Cody, like Gatsby, transcended early hardship to become a millionaire. Like Gatsby, he is remarkably generous to his friends and subordinates. Cody takes to drinking because, despite his wealth, he remains unable to carve out a place for himself in the world of 1920s America. It is important to note that Cody's death is brought about, at least in part, through the treachery of the woman he loves; this foreshadows the circumstances of Gatsby's death in Chapter VIII. ]]> 2018-12-10 01:10:51 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/312744843 What did these characters represent in the story during the 1920s? dan_hsieh https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/313228061 we almost finish this book now, and we know Daisy represent american dream, how about others?

]]> 2018-12-11 01:40:29 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/313228061 Daisy abd Myrtle rachel_ding https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/313421110 Both of their names are names of flowers. The daisy represents purity, innocence and beauty. But the beauty of daisy is ephemeral and fragile. As soon as Gatsby moves close to her, the beauty fades and eventually dies. 
Myrtle is a symbol of joy, love and immorality. She does bring men in her life joy but the joy is temporary. In the end, the joy brings disaster to different characters,(Wilson, Tom, and Gatsby).
 ]]> 2018-12-11 14:52:27 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/313421110 Dimly I heard someone murmur "Blessed are the dead that the rain falls on," and then the owl-eyed man said " Amen to that," in a brave voice. thomas_ma1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/315032781 We straggle  down quickly through the rain to the cars.
Owl Eyes spoke to me by the gate. 
"I couldn't get to the house." he remarked.
'Neither could anybody else."
"Go on!" He started. " Why, my God! they used to go there by the hundreds."
He took off his glasses and wiped them again, outside and in.
" The poor son of 🤬 he said."
From this passage we can certain the owl-eyed man is the god. Gatsby is the son of god, the god calls hime the son of 🤬 which means he blame on himself. People at that time have no faith except Gatsby, they only enjoy the feeling which money and wine bring to them. As the result of this, the god can't do anything but supervision everything. Gatsby is the son of god is because he is the only one who has faith and goal.

]]> 2018-12-17 01:00:23 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/315032781 idea of the book thomas_ma1 https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/315034320 I think this plot reflects the core idea of this book: "Morality is not equal," Daisy never considers what he is doing right, she is simply a person who acts according to her own emotions. She was often with him when she was happy with Gatsby. She was so scared that she wanted to avoid. In fact, the "I" in the book is very angry with her behavior including her husband. They are very selfish people, but in all cases "I" gave up condemnation or persuasion because "I" Knowing that it is useless is more, because they are like "children", their moral values can be said to be quite imperfect, but you can't blame them, because this is a person's growth environment and experience, so the book is only Say, "When you want to criticize a person, you have to remember that not everyone has had a superior condition for you.]]> 2018-12-17 01:18:48 UTC https://padlet.com/grahamvogt/g027q0cksytf/wish/315034320