"Why We Must Fight" - 3rd Period by Andrea McCormick https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh Ronald Reagan en-us 2018-02-06 02:06:55 UTC 2018-03-23 14:05:29 UTC hello@padlet.com Group 1 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647330 We disagree with this because you should stand up for what you believe in, if not they'll have control over you and push you around.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:02 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647330 Erick's Group https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647386 We disagree because in order to get something you want you have to fight for it. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:07 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647386 group 7 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647503 I disagree with the statement because you would never be in peace with yourself. Also if you surrender you would have never received what you were wanting or fighting for and that is no peace. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:16 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647503 Group 5 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647523 No, In surrendering the person will believe that they can walk all over you and sooner or later the problems will reoccur.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:17 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647523 Jovanna, Estrella, and Adrian https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647692 We disagree with this statement because even if you surrender it does not assure you peace. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:32 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647692 Jocelyn, Oscar https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647961 Yes we agree with this statement, because if we were to surrender and prevent or continue the war from happening, there would be no strife or reason for the enemy to attack us.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:46 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228647961 group 9 G.E.B https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648062 In his speech he uses pathos " because those voices don't speak for the rest of us." The effect will change their emotion towards the enemy. another use of devices is allusion because he refers to the bible ,Moses, therefore, this effects to the audience that their president is appealing himself as a religious man.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:53 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648062 group 3 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648072 In his speech he uses rhetorical questions and allusion. The rhetorical question makes the reader think about what he is asking while the allusion he makes to the bible and Winston Churchill makes the speech have a reference to something that most people know.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:54 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648072 Group 9 EGB https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648093 He uses them to appeal to the struggle they are currently going through and relate them to the struggles people held in high esteem like Jesus and patriots.]]> 2018-02-06 15:21:56 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648093 Group 9 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648143 I do not agree with this statement because if you want something, you are going to fight for it. If we were to surrender, the other countries would not have taken us seriously because we gave up without a fight. They would see us as a pushover.]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648143 Group 3 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648155 I agree with this statement because when there is violence or war going on, people can't come together and hear each others sides. It my seem as if you surrendering means your weak but if they stop and just listen to each other, they can agree to disagree.]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:02 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648155 makenzie, tristan, payton https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648182 you can never guarantee peace especially in a war. no one is ever completely satisfied

]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:04 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648182 Erick's Group https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648185 They kept fighting for the right cause and for what they believe in. This allows people to make connections with that are fighting right now. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:04 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648185 Group 3 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648340 He relates to it to use the people of america to show them that if we give up then america would be nothing compared to the soviet union.That we need to keep fighting for what they believe in.]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:20 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648340 Group 7 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648624 (pathos)  "because those voices don't speak for the rest of us". He saying and his speech whatever they do or say wont effect them.

(pathos) Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard 'round the world? 
He saying what if they give up and instead of fighting. this part of the speech is saying dont give up when your so close to winning.
]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:46 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648624 Jovanna, Estrella, and Adrian https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648692 We think Reagan alludes to them because it's to show that they're not the only ones against them, . They all had a big impact. The effect is that he can relate it to everybody. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:22:54 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648692 Group 7 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648881 Reagan's speech is so effective because he compares the situation with the bible and our past. That is what makes the speech have such an impact and mean so much to people and also catch their attention.]]> 2018-02-06 15:23:15 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648881 Erick's Group https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648898 Rhetorical devices allows the listeners to connect the speech to other events. This is done by the use of allusions and appeals. Such as when he makes and allusion to Moses and appeals to the crowd by using pathos. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:23:16 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228648898 Group 9 EGB https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649211 He appeals to people's instinct to rebel against those who challenge and try to take away your way of life, for example when he says that we will not submit to the soviets. Another example of this speech being effective is when he compares the duty of their people in their situation to the calling of duty to people like Jesus, people fighting the Nazis, and those who fought for freedom from Britain. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:23:48 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649211 Group 5 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649492 Because we are a religon based nation. The nazi's had a huge impact on us and our surrounding nations and he wanted to have an emotional impact.]]> 2018-02-06 15:24:09 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649492 Oscar, Jocelyn https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649856 He does this because he is giving a perspective of the war in order for Americans to understand, since a majority are Christians. As an effect, he influences the audience to think whether or not they are making the correct choices.]]> 2018-02-06 15:24:41 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228649856 group 7 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228650828 Reagan referrers to Moses, Jesus and the patriots because he wants them to think about what would have happened if they didn't do what they are known for and gave up. As for the Nazis he uses this to appeal to the emotions of the Americans and the people effected by Nazis. This effects the people to fight. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:25:59 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228650828 Makenzie, Tristan, Payton https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228650981 He used many examples to reach out to many different people. Therefore this part of the speech effected many different people in many different things.]]> 2018-02-06 15:26:12 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228650981 Group 3 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651068 He makes two allusions in his speech one to the bible and one to Winston Churchill. these make the speech so effective because people could be able to relate to the speech.]]> 2018-02-06 15:26:19 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651068 Group 5 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651181 He uses appeals to connect with the people, such as pathos.]]> 2018-02-06 15:26:28 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651181 Group 1 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651292 It appeals to your emotions because it talks about Jesus and how the nation is under god, it talk about the Nazis and it makes you feel mad about what they did.]]> 2018-02-06 15:26:38 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651292 Erick's Group https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651812 One rhetorical device that is used is an allusion when they talk about Winston Churchill. Another one is hyperbole when he says "we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness." This allows audience to make a easier connections.

 
]]> 2018-02-06 15:27:20 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651812 Group 5 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651955 The two rhetorical devices we picked are Pathos and Allusions. The definition of pathos is to appeal to the emotions. When he uses pathos's such as " He has told them that we're retreating under the pressure of the Cold War, and someday when the time comes to deliver the final ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary" he's referring to the war where soldiers have died giving. The allusions he refers to the bible makes the reader remember how our country is based off religion and even Mr. President has a strong faith]]> 2018-02-06 15:27:34 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228651955 Jovanna, Estrella, and Adrian https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652470 What makes this speech effective is that a lot of people can relate to the speech with his use of rhetorical devices. Such as, his allusion about Moses, Jesus, the patriots at Concord Bridge, and those opposing the Nazis. Also, using pathos appealing to the emotion of the people. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:28:23 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652470 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652829 2018-02-06 15:28:51 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652829 Group 1 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652847 The use of rhetorical devices and appeals helps him connect to the audience more to get them more involved in the speech.]]> 2018-02-06 15:28:54 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228652847 Oscar, Jocelyn https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653022 2018-02-06 15:29:11 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653022 Jovanna, Estrella, and Adrian https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653394 He uses pathos and that makes the speech more personal and gives it a bigger impact therefore people are more inclined to listen. The allusions he uses reaches out to everyone. He uses bible references to reach out to Christians and worldly people to be able to reach out to even those who don't know anything about the bible. ]]> 2018-02-06 15:29:37 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653394 Makenzie, Payton and Tristan The speech is effective because he specifically states who he is talking to and about. "When Nikita Khrushchev has told his people he knows what our answer will be?", In this statement he calls out the person we beefing with." only between fight or surrender.", he tells what he wants from the people. https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653453 2018-02-06 15:29:42 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653453 Group 1 https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653959 The use of juxtaposition "peace and war" "fight or surrender" because you cant have peace and war. when he brought up Moses it brought an allusion to the audience referring back to the bible and connecting to them more.]]> 2018-02-06 15:30:23 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228653959 Makenzie, Tristan and Payton https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228654304 "peace and war..." this is a Juxtaposition, he used this to show his audience that they have two options. He also uses allusion to appeal to many peoples ideas in the audience. "Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard 'round the world?"]]> 2018-02-06 15:30:52 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228654304 Oscar, Jocelyn https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228656752 The pathos and juxtapositions used during the speech moved the audience's emotions and made the audience aware of their choices and the possible outcomes.]]> 2018-02-06 15:34:14 UTC https://padlet.com/AndreaMcCormick/fxducy1zimwh/wish/228656752