4th Period AP Gov't by Tori Ammons

4th Period AP Gov't by Tori Ammons https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP Made with love en-us 2017-10-19 19:34:54 UTC 2026-02-25 16:50:19 UTC hello@padlet.com Guy Adamo https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199186813 Well the third text is different from the first is that the third text states that voting is a scam. From what P Diddy says he believes that voting is pointless and won't change a thing. While the first one tries to encourage people to vote. Saying that voting is very important and useful. While also implying that voting can change things.

Well maybe the way to get younger people to vote is to maybe get them to not only think as an individual but maybe to think as a larger group. We could encourage them to find a group of like minded people. Nationalistic factors could get them to vote too. I would think that because someone who loves being an American or English or any other country in the world are more willing to do more things for that country. Maybe if more people are more passionate about their country it might help.]]> 2017-10-20 18:54:57 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199186813 Alondra Camacho https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187554 I agree with Max that P. Diddy is trying to tell voters to stop voting while article 1 is trying to tell non--voters to start voting.

I also agree with Gracie. I don't really think their backgrounds are so important in there articles because P. Diddy was once telling young adults to vote and basically saying what Ferguson was saying, but now he thinks it's a scam.

I also believe that if someone doesn't care about an issue, they wont vote. A lot of people don't vote because they don't really care who's running them. They think everything will stay the same. The more personal the problem, the more likely someone will vote.]]> 2017-10-20 18:56:54 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187554 Grace Cunningham https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187618 I think in the 3rd article, P. Diddy tried to show that even if you do vote, it's pointless because either way the people being elected aren't going to actually execute the things needed for the country, no matter the political party.

]]> 2017-10-20 18:57:02 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187618 Justin J. Chase chasejus001 https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187769 I feel that to be able to beat the system, you have to play it. Find a candidate you support and have them elected. Vote for the one you think will kill the system.
Google says:
Charles Fergus is the author of seventeen books, most of them about nature and the outdoors. He was born in central Pennsylvania and lived there for many years before moving, in 2003, to a small hill-country farm in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont.

He is a successful author, who grew up in a white, middle class family. I think this may influence his opinion, but P. Diddy is a multimillionaire who have benefited by the system.
The "Vote or Die" movement was officially known as Citizen change and tried to pull as many people to the voting booths.
Mrs Ammons makes a good point. I don't spout my opinions to people don't know because i don't want to be associated with the party of that opinion.
I think voting should be much easier. If i could go online and vote, i would for every election. However, the way it is now is too long and involved.

]]> 2017-10-20 18:57:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187769 Dawson Orcutt https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187834 I agree that one article talks about dishonest politicians and how republicans and democrats are two sides of the same coin and the other article talks about how important voting is.

Vote or Die: Citizen Change is a political service group, founded by musician P. Diddy, and backed by Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey and 50 Cent. ... The campaign's message, promoted on t-shirts and other things, is "Vote or Die!", a phrase adapted from Join, or Die, a well-known cartoon by Benjamin Franklin.

I think people often feel like politicians don't represent them or feel disenfranchised by for an example, Donald Trump putting down Mexicans, blacks, young people, Muslims, prisoners of war, college professors, experts in a variety of fields.

to get kids involved its important not to make politics such a taboo subject in daily life. Rather teach people how to properly handle conversations, and how to properly and respectfully debate, discuss, and dialogue with others.

EDUCATE PEOPLE ON ISSUES
PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW THE ISSUE //DONT KNOW HOW TO VOTE

]]> 2017-10-20 18:57:22 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187834 Leigha Robins https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187900 I think the third article was more or less about the quality of the politicians rather than the vote mattering. It was a call to action to make a difference in your own community rather than hope on the same politics with a different face.

Voting is extremely important still, because it is the point of democracy, people need to use their right to change the country. 46.9% of elegable voters did not vote in 2016. That is almost half, that was 216, 556, 662 people who did not make a difference. Trumps approval rating is at 40%, and continues to drop as his supporters feel he his not living up to what they wanted.

I agree with Gracie, P. Diddy did make a call to younger students with his Vote or Die, he had a different background than some of the other articles writers, but he still felt strong enough in the way they do to get more to vote.

The Electoral College was founded on the basis that the founders had thought about, they didn't want the uneducated masses with the whole mob mentality, and not informed about what decisions they would be deciding for the whole country. However, young adults now are more educated and more informed than ever, we have access (statistics, wikipedia, campaign websites, and tests that can help you determine who you would most relate to in a presidential and midterm elections) at the push of a button.

Teach kids younger. Inform them that they CAN make a difference. Give them confidence to make informed decisions.

]]> 2017-10-20 18:57:33 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187900 April Talaiga https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187909 Voting is important, it's just the matter of whether our votes actually matter. If no one likes the candidates that run for president then there is no reason to vote. I feel that people should vote and if at the end of the day they feel that they don't play a role in voting then stop voting.
I feel that you can try many things to try and get more people involved but its ultimately up to those people to be involved whether they would want to or not. Its hard to appeal to your own generation to be more involved. ]]> 2017-10-20 18:57:35 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199187909 Jasmine Revely https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199188612 For the third article I think what P. Diddy was saying if that you vote it just wont make a difference considering on how the voting process works. But before P. Diddy thought that voting was a scam he was all for it.]]> 2017-10-20 18:59:15 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199188612 Reggie Warren warrereg000 https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199188880 The third text and first text compare in a way that their audience is more directed. The third article wants the voting scam to stop and encourages people to not vote or that it does not matter. I n the first article, it encourages people who are not voting or participating to start and begin. I think it is somewhat biased, due to the different opinions of different people and how their experiences play a role.

Backgrounds play a role I think because, with a persons experience and lifestyle may contribute on their views and even family and who they grew up with can be a factor as to whether they want to vote or care about politics.
In article #1, people are more concerned whether their vote matters, than what they want or care about and wanting to vote a show that.

I do not think young people are the only ones concerned with education, work, or moving into a new apartment or house. Adults and even elders are concerned with that too. I think it is just a matter of views.

I agree with Gracie on the fact that not everyone will always socialize and contribute with just anyone on a topic or petition. Not everyone is social, but also not always anti-social. So that is why social-media can be directed or available to more audiences.]]> 2017-10-20 18:59:59 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199188880 Gillian Lane https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196462 I think a persons background and how they grew up, will help determine whether you believe that voting is important or not, just like the comparison between article #1, and article #2]]> 2017-10-20 19:23:42 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196462 Samantha Goedde https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196766 I believe that article 1 and 2 are contrasting themselves. In article one, it tells readers that voting is important. While article 2 says voting is completely useless.

I can also see why people don't vote is because in the last presidential election, the popular vote didn't win. Instead the opposing side won due to their electoral college score.

I also think it's really important to vote because it's a gift from the government unlike in other countries where people are fighting for the right to vote.

]]> 2017-10-20 19:24:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196766 Max Adams https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196801 I do believe that Justin's comment is true. I believe that people will always feel an emotional reaction. I think that what the government needs to promote, it needs to promote equally. Conviction is not a good enough motivator, we need experienced more than educated people. Article 1 argues that teaching people still wont get them to vote.]]> 2017-10-20 19:24:49 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196801 Emily Bartholomew https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196920 I agree with Dawson saying that article 1 and 3 are very one sided. The first article talks about how people should vote and let their voice be heard. While the third article talks about how your voice isn't going to be heard and don't vote because it doesn't matter. I agree with Justin when he said that people vote for the candidate that will do what they want. The whole fact conversation is very true because people don't want fake information, everybody want to be told the true and not lied to. I agree with Jasmine we should be a grown up and be happy that we can vote for president with out fighting, and they should not push us into doing anything. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196920 Emily Houck https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196967 If people were more educated about political issues in the world they'd be more involved in all types of political events. When people are faced with certain problems that they don't think pertain to them they blow it off all together and not think about it again, when in fact people need to think about the bigger picture and think about all the people around them and how certain issues might effect them. Together younger voters and even older voters need to realize that it might not effect you know or directly but think about what would in the nearing future. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196967 Augustus Gloop (August Bruno brunoaug000 https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196991 I agree with Dawson that too many politicians and people nowadays are too emotional when it comes to their opinions and state one too many 'I think's. However, it's difficult to persuade people to look the other way, even despite how factual your argument may be, because people are very hard set in their opinions. This by itself can stir frustration in a lot of people, especially in conversation when one side isn't willing to hear out the other. When politics appear so cut and dry, one side vs the other, I can see how voting would seem disheartening, because one side is always bound to win. In cases where it's a close election, and one side barely wins, it leaves the other side feeling very helpless.

That's why I believe that education is so important, because it gives more to the game of politics than just voting for one party or another.]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:38 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196991 Gracie Andersen https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196996 I believe that these articles are mostly opinion driven. Also frustration driven, especially article 3. P Diddy had good points about how people don't feel as though their options matters and that their voices won't be heard anyway. But they are heard. Apathy i believe also plays a a huge role in the lack of caring and trying to educate yourself isn't there. There is no motivation in this generation to self educated and put effort in to voting.

I agree with Justin, people are very emotion based and very bad at being unbiased. Opinions will always affect how a person responds to a specific piece of information they receive. They also get lazy and don't want to go through the whole system of voting every year which leads to a mass of lazy individuals who want their voice heard to not vote.

Agarism: I don't believe that that would benefit people as much as everybody think it might. I think that order is a good construct and that the "scam" that is the government is good in theory and that the order that a national currency and systems to get a business license are good things that can keep order and cause less anarchy.

I think that people should go vote on their own but at the same time i think that it is an interesting idea, bribing kids to vote might not work but making it more relatible and relevant to kids may make it so we have a greater voter turn out. Bribery is a no but things like that used to maybe educate kids on the political system may benefit our society.

]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:39 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196996 Roman Abeyta https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196997 I agree with Dawson. You need to have a solid understanding of something to talk about it. It's not about opinion, its more about the facts. I likes Dawson´s analogy about how if you explains things the wrong way people will become confused and not have the motivation to actually find out the truth.

I like how Gillian brought up P. Diddy and Agorism and to a degree it could be very useful if done on a small scale. But on a large scale it leads to the time of City-states where everything is slightly different. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199196997 Judhveer S Nagra https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197012 Articles #3 and #1 are like articles straight from Pron-con lists. Article #1 talks about why arent young people voting and article #3 talks about why we shouldnt and that voting is a scam. Article #3 really expands on this topic by stating that very major candidate is either pro-war or pro-establishment. Obama was thought to have bring change to that but it didnt work out, also ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:43 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197012 Abdul Ibrahim https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197020 People feel as if what's going on is about them, it's not "I feel" and stuff like that, everything is factual. If politicians knew how we felt and if they tried to understand us and speak to us in a way that we can understand maybe people will be inclined to vote and even attempt to vote. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:45 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197020 Hannah Mayers https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197028 All three of these articles are more driven on an opinion. especially the 2nd and 3rd article because in the second, Hanan explains how we are labeled as lazy but we are letting politicians stoop to our level by trying so hard to involve us and we need to go up to the politicians level or nothing will change. then the 3rd article is talking about how voting is a scam because one vote wont make a difference in the government, that the idea is you have to solve problems yourself by something on a smaller scale like in your community.

We should care that young people are not voting because the younger generations are the future. Their opinion matters towards who is going to be in office and represent them and help with solving problems that are important to them. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:25:47 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197028 David Rivas rivasdav000 https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197135 I would agree with that but what you just said doesn't make sense on what you.

I could agree with that because how the 2016 elections was it made a close correlation to what you stated.

what he said about people not caring about facts is very true because people are very hard headed and these types of things go hand and hand.]]> 2017-10-20 19:26:11 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197135 Oscar Bravo https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197593 I think that people that are really interested with politics will go out and attempt to vote or do something as opposed as to someone who would have no interest and no matter what you attempt to teach that person they will not care.

I agree with the statement that Justin in which he says that voting is a lot of work and this may be the discouragement of why some of these people do not vote. ]]> 2017-10-20 19:28:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197593 Haylee Hooper https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197988 going off of what leigha said about the political problems not getting better, it reminded me of what P. Diddy said in the end of the 3rd article that people should "try solving problems yourself - with your community - instead of waiting around for a politician to make the problem worse." which is totally fine to do in my opinion however, you can still vote for someone and help the community.]]> 2017-10-20 19:30:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199197988 Felix Chen https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199198216 I agree with Justin when he said voting was a lot of work. I think it is very true and that is why people don't vote because it is a hassle to fill out all the papers. People believe it is easier to just not fill out the papers and not vote. Filling out papers is the last time someone would want to do in the day so that is probably why not many people do it.]]> 2017-10-20 19:31:13 UTC https://padlet.com/tammons1/4AP/wish/199198216