https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal How does Dickens present Bill Sikes and Fagin? Why would he want his Victorian reader to see them like this? How does Fagin treat Oliver? How does Bill treat Nancy and his dog? What does this tell you about them? en-us 2021-11-04 08:48:05 UTC 2025-09-24 02:11:48 UTC hello@padlet.com jessicabruce1 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1866935686 2021-11-04 08:51:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1866935686 13agyeitwuma1 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874698762 2021-11-08 10:28:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874698762 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874699518 Bill is corrupt by abusing his dog and kicking his across the room however, he abuses Nancy by gripping her arm.]]> 2021-11-08 10:29:13 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874699518 13llewellync https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874699538 2021-11-08 10:29:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874699538 13branchetti https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700107 dickens makes bill and Fagin both sound like horrible people who care only about themselves.]]> 2021-11-08 10:29:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700107 13clarkh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700169 2021-11-08 10:29:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700169 13vanvynckr https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700204 bill is very horrible towards nancy and bullseye ]]> 2021-11-08 10:29:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700204 13rowleye1 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700304 He is a cruel and an abusive person, I know this because he domestically abuses his girlfriend and his dog.]]> 2021-11-08 10:29:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700304 13klusekl https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700549 2021-11-08 10:30:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874700549 13clarkh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874701085 2021-11-08 10:30:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874701085 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702015 Yes ,because they do a lot of corrupt things in the story ]]> 2021-11-08 10:31:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702015 13aldeaa https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702171 Bill is corrupt as he is very harsh on Nancy and he abuses his dog (Bull's eye).]]> 2021-11-08 10:31:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702171 13bakerm https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702530 Dickens presents Bill as a violent person.In the story Bill shows himself as a cruel and corrupt person by abusing his dog Bulls Eye.And being controlling over his girlfriend Nancy]]> 2021-11-08 10:31:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702530 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702628 Fagin only cares for himself and never for anyone else even his looks tells that he doesn’t care about the way he looks]]> 2021-11-08 10:31:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702628 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702750 I think Dickens would want the reader to see the characters like this to show how people were like in Victorian times. ]]> 2021-11-08 10:32:03 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702750 13butlerc https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702862 Bill is aggressive and abusive to Nancy and his k9 he only cares about himself.                                 Fagin is not trustworthy and he manipulates children to work for him and steal of innocent people.]]> 2021-11-08 10:32:11 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702862 13clarkh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702934 2021-11-08 10:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874702934 13colleyh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874703124  i think dickens presents bill sikes and fagin as villians because they are naughty and harmfull and are bad influewences]]> 2021-11-08 10:32:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874703124 13awobajod https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704135 2021-11-08 10:33:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704135 13gatwardk https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704191 2021-11-08 10:34:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704191 13clarkh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704234 2021-11-08 10:34:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704234 13burgessgaxhac https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704254 fagin is an old person who incorages young people to still for him 

]]> 2021-11-08 10:34:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704254 13aldeaa https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704576 bill hits/grabs nancy therefore he abuses her

]]> 2021-11-08 10:34:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874704576 13colesh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874789514 Charles Dickens presents Bill as Aggressive. 'he grabbed Nancy's arm and squeezed it'. this is an example of him resorting to voilence.]]> 2021-11-08 12:03:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874789514 13vanvynckr https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874919593 he is very niave and he is very known to the police ]]> 2021-11-08 12:59:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1874919593 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875572215 Bill sikes is so corrupt because he only cares about his self and he doesn't care about nobody else.]]> 2021-11-08 16:09:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875572215 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875585587 Fagin is  very naïve because he is corrupt at the same time and naïve.]]> 2021-11-08 16:13:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875585587 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875591750 Fagin is a villain aswell.]]> 2021-11-08 16:15:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875591750 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875905689 Bill sikes is so corrupt and rude.]]> 2021-11-08 17:57:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875905689 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875908101 Bill Sikes and Nancy kidnapped Oliver Twist]]> 2021-11-08 17:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875908101 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875910645 Bill Sikes is so rude because he doesn't care about anyone he only cares about his self.]]> 2021-11-08 17:58:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875910645 13seabournetapataus https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875948319 2021-11-08 18:12:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1875948319 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1877588664 Dickens presents Fagin as a villain in the story.In the story Fagin manipulates Oliver into pickpocketing in a sly way.Bill is presented as a very violent and aggressive character in Oliver Twist.We know this as he gets into a lot of fights.Dickens may have wanted Bill and Fagin to be like this because Dickens may want to express what people where like during the Victorian era.Fagin treats Oliver like a son when Oliver first met him.Bill treats his girlfriend in a abusive way and tends to hit her.Bill has a bad temper and tends to take it out on his dog Bulls Eye.This tells us Bill has some sort of a bad temper.]]> 2021-11-09 08:10:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1877588664 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878216084 2021-11-09 13:28:59 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878216084 13gatwardk https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878227499 2021-11-09 13:32:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878227499 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878234198 bill is evil and rude]]> 2021-11-09 13:34:50 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878234198 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878236275 Bill is corrupt]]> 2021-11-09 13:35:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878236275 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878239306 He only cares about himself ]]> 2021-11-09 13:36:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878239306 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878245699 bill and fagin are sly and corrupt]]> 2021-11-09 13:38:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878245699 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878249000 They are kidnappers >:(]]> 2021-11-09 13:39:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878249000 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878256583 corrupt and not trustful]]> 2021-11-09 13:41:50 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878256583 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878285421 2021-11-09 13:50:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878285421 13colleyh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878295061 2021-11-09 13:53:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878295061 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878304132 Wanted to hurt Oliver]]> 2021-11-09 13:55:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878304132 13garwooda https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878331085 2021-11-09 14:03:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878331085 13colesh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878490531 dickens would want a Victorian reader to see them like that because they are stereotypes of criminals and Jewish people (Bill=Criminal, Fagin=Jewish person)]]> 2021-11-09 14:48:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878490531 13colesh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878499455 Fagin treats Oliver more harshly than the rest of his gang because he wants to make sure he doesn't escape again.]]> 2021-11-09 14:51:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878499455 13colesh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878508749 Bill treats Nancy and Bull's eye as nothing to him. Their feelings mean nothing to Bill and he is extremely vicious]]> 2021-11-09 14:53:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878508749 13colesh https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878520086 This tells me that they are both controlling. Bill is very harsh. Fagin is sly. They are perfect examples of their stereotypes. ]]> 2021-11-09 14:56:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878520086 13awobajod https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878523443 Bill is a very abusive person and does not hesitate to put his life after his]]> 2021-11-09 14:57:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878523443 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878731333 Charles presented Fagin and Bill as villain's 
Bill for one is a hostile, violent criminal but he's only a criminal because of the hostile environment he's forced to live in.

Fagin on the other hand is a manipulator, teaching kids how to pick-pocket and other stuff, he repays them with food and shelter.


2. Back in the Victorian era; there was a law called: poor law, if your too poor you'll be, exiled (sent) arrested or hung...

3.Fagin treats Oliver like a son to him, feeding him, sheltering him, etc, that is until he taught him how to pick-pocket

4.He shouts at them a lot.
He abuses them a lot too
(Bull's Eye: kicking him across a room)
(Nancy: squishing he palm)

5.
Fagin: He's a wise old man that feeds little boys and gives them shelter.
But, he manipulates little boys to pick-pocket others.

Bill: Bill is flat out evil, he abuses Nancy and Bull's Eye by
Nancy: squishing her palm
Bull's: kicking him across a room]]> 2021-11-09 16:00:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878731333 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878884027 Bill Sikes is very aggressive and harsh on Nancy.]]> 2021-11-09 16:51:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1878884027 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879040129 The character of Fagin from Oliver Twist is the villain.
The character of Bill Sikes from Oliver twist is so corrupt because he only cares about his self. ]]> 2021-11-09 17:47:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879040129 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879082452 Bill Sikes 
Bill sikes is a selfish man that only cares about himself. He has a girlfriend called Nancy that he abuses by forcing her to do things that she doesn't want to do or physically abusing her. Sikes turns to drinking a lot of the time so you could expect him to drunk.

Fagin 
Fagin is a jewish man who prays on little boys to do all his dirty work for him (stealing) Hundreds of boys and him live in a horrible unhygienic building.   
   ]]> 2021-11-09 18:04:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879082452 13gatwardk https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879166526 2021-11-09 18:37:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879166526 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879167224 Dickens presents Fagin and Bill as corrupt and manipulative. Bill is abusive towards Nancy by squeezing her arm which resulted in her fainting. He fights with his dog and doesn't care if it is hurt. He is also drunk all the time which can have a contribute with his attitude. Fagin teaches kids how to pickpocket/steal. He makes little boys do it for him so that he doesn't get arrested or even worse. They are both trying to kidnap Oliver but Fagin is warning him about how dangerous Bill can be.]]> 2021-11-09 18:37:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879167224 13burgessgaxhac https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879348201 2021-11-09 19:51:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879348201 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879464459 1 Dickens presents Fagin and Bill, corrupt villains who pickpocket innocent civilians and manipulate children into doing it. 

2 He might want the reader to know what people were like back then.

3 Fagin may treat Oliver nice at the start but he starts to manipulate him to steal. He acts sly and untrustworthy towards Oliver.

4 Bill is abusive towards them and very aggressive.

5 It tells us that Bill is very controlling, Fagin is mysterious and Nancy is helpless.]]> 2021-11-09 20:51:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879464459 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879466883 I think fagin uses Oliver because her teaches Oliver to pickpocket so he gets money.

I think Bill treats nancey and his dog like a piece of dirt because he abuses nancey when she doesn’t want to do something an kicked his dog across the room for blinking. 

This tells us that they may have been treated like that when they were your so there now taking there anger out on Oliver nancey and bulls eye]]> 2021-11-09 20:53:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1879466883 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1880619198 as corrupt people that like too use people the need and main they present bill as a mmad man that does not know how too control himself at all
   

so they can understand what happen in the victrion era and understand why people did too



fagin treat oliver with a little bit of respect but he not really that nice oliver just like bill sike


]]> 2021-11-10 07:47:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1880619198 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1880822462 Bill is so evil and corrupt.]]> 2021-11-10 09:41:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1880822462 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881871556 Dickens has presented Bill to be a cruel and aggressive character. Despite him being very poor and not having much money that still doesn't make it acceptable to be cruel to his dog and be very aggressive towards Nancy and everyone else. Fagin on the other hand is not only very strange but he also is a criminal I don't think it is okay to raise boys to pick pocket and steal.]]> 2021-11-10 16:49:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881871556 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881974061 Bill is so naïve and corrupt because he only cares about his self.]]> 2021-11-10 17:27:26 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881974061 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881978196 Fagin is also a very strick man and he wants so get young children to be with him and Fagin is so corrupt.]]> 2021-11-10 17:29:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881978196 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881990693  when he is betrayed by Nancy where Oliver accompanies the Artful Dodger into a murky and run-down house, where the Dodger presents Oliver to Fagin. The way Dickens describes Fagin, gives the reader the impression that Fagin is evil, and possibly the focal villain of the story.]]> 2021-11-10 17:33:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1881990693 13rowleye1 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1882372367 1. Dickens' represented Fagin and Bill as criminalized monsters.
2. To show what it was like in poverty in the Victorian era.
3. Fagin treats Oliver as if Oliver is his own servant.
4. Bill domestically abuses Nancy and abuses  his dog, Bull's eye. Which shows that he is a patriarchal and a abusive man. 
5. I'm not sure about this question.]]> 2021-11-10 20:21:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1882372367 https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1892148183 2021-11-15 19:08:51 UTC https://padlet.com/jessicabruce1/fokhkimdly887mal/wish/1892148183