https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc Close Reading with Quotations en-us 2021-03-26 13:31:20 UTC 2021-04-06 12:15:48 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f4a1.png mnagle10 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1357144872
Holden thinks this when he is back at his hotel, feeling lousy and depressed. He is just about to get propositioned for a prostitute. 

I find this quote interesting because it makes me wonder, does this mess really happen "all of a sudden"? It seems like Holden has been on downward spiral for most of this book. Allie's death, getting kicked out of four schools, feeling lonely and depressed, all of this had led him to this point where he makes a really bad decision. ]]> 2021-03-26 13:35:35 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1357144872 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371725673 “It’s ten bucks chief I tole ya that”(113).

Maurice yells to Holden through the door saying this even though he told Holden the price was 5 bucks. Holden payed the 5 dollars to sunny and now they asking for more money.

This quote is interesting because the characters in the book may actually not know what they said or heard before or they may be lying. I think they are lying and that Maurice is trying to scam Holden by telling him the price is lower and then making him pay more afterwards. This is a smart but illegal strategy for business. ]]> 2021-03-31 13:29:47 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371725673 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371727689 “Thought I would feel a lot  better than I do” (Page 109)

This quote takes place after the prototote asks Holden why he asked for her if he didn’t want her. 

I think this quote shows us that Holden is coming closer to understanding how he feels. He admits in this quote that he feels bad and that he wants to feel better but he’s going about it the wrong way. He has shown that he wants to be with his friends and is lonely but he keeps calling people like faith, sunny or the cab driver who he barley knows.]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371727689 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728199 “‘Don’t you feel like talking for a while?’”(Page 106)

Holden asks Sunny, the prostitute, when she is sitting on a chair. He had just paid for a her to come to his room.

This quote is interesting to me because it again brings up the theme of loneliness in Holden. Sunny is caught off guard by this because not many people randomly ask to just talk. This quote really portrays how Holden is alienating himself but really wants to get off his own little island by interacting with others.]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:24 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728199 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728273 “All of a sudden I started to cry.” (page 134)

Holden starts to cry after Maurice and Sunny take five dollars from him. Maurice and Sunny claim that Holden owes them five dollars.

This quote interested me because it seemed as though the emotions Holden was holding in just suddenly came out. It seemed as though this moment was a tipping point for Holden, and he couldn’t help but cry because another bad thing just seemed to happen to him. ]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:25 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728273 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728301 "What I did, I started talking, sort of out loud, to Allie. I do that sometimes when I get very depressed."

This quote tells me that Holden misses his brother Allie and he is more depressed then he lets on to anyone else. This is important to the storyline because he hasn't ever told anyone he is depressed and because of that he isn't getting the help he needs.]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:25 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728301 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728902 “‘So Long,’ I said. I didn’t thank her or anything. I’m glad I didn’t.” Pg 128

Holden is thinking this as Sunny leaves his apartment in a failed attempt to depart from his state of loneliness. He knows that this isn’t the type of person to actually make him feel like he has somebody to talk to and spend time with.

I think that this quote is interesting because it really shows his state of depression and loneliness. He feels that he needs somebody in his life he can establish a relationship with, but before he was thinking about this he just wanted to lose his virginity and “practice” for when he eventually gets married. However, he knows that this isn’t the way to do it, and it will not make him feel any less lonely and depressed than he already is. He needs a special person in his life he can talk to and bond with like Jane.


]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:34 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371728902 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729023 “I wasn’t sleepy or anything, but I was feeling sort of lousy. Depressed and all. I almost wished I was dead”(101). 

Holden says this when he gets back to the hotel after walking for a really long time. This is right before he meets Maurice in the elevator. 

I think this quote is interesting because Holden keeps repeating how he feels depressed and lonely and it could be a problem. I also find it interesting because he hasn’t really done anything about and just keeps mentioning it. I think that everything that he has been through has made him feel this way but he doesn’t really have anyone to talk to about it.

]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:36 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729023 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729084 “What I really felt like was committing suicide. I felt like jumping out the window”(136).

This is When he gave sunny only five dollars and told her to go away. Sunny and Maurice came back and asked for the other five dollars but Holden wouldn’t give it up so Maurice hit Holden.

Holden is feeling so horrible about his life that he is considering suicide. Throughout Holdens whole story, one thing leads to another but it’s usually bad things like getting kicked out of school. He feels like he can’t catch a break and might think suicide is the only option.]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:37 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729084 mitchellcolvin25 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729212 “What I did, I started talking, sort of out loud, to Allie. I do that sometimes when I get very depressed”(129). 

This quote was just after Sunny left, when Holden is thinking to himself. 

We have seen before that Holden links his depression to his little brother, Allie. I think that his brothers death really drove him over the edge, and his thought pattern is similar when he is very sad. ]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:39 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729212 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729499 “ all of a sudden I started to cry. I’d give anything if I hadn’t, but I did.(pg 134) 

Holden thinks this when he is at the hotel and Maurice and sunny are in his room making Holden give him money. 


This quote is interesting because we have seen Holden cry before. I think Holden try’s to ask really tuff and like he doesn’t care about nothing but I think on the inside he is an iMotion always person, he just doesn’t like to show it. This time in particular I think Holden is over whelmed by everything and just can’t take anymore. ]]> 2021-03-31 13:30:44 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371729499 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371730954 -
“The goddamn movies. They can ruin you.” (136)

Holden, the main protagonist of The Catcher in the Rye, has a distinctive dislike towards movies. This is shown throughout the story, but perhaps there is more to this puzzling discomfort than it seems. After being physically attacked, Holden lays still on the ground and daydreams about a more exciting and favorable scenario where he is similar to the main character of a movie. After this, he speaks about movies “ruining” people. Perhaps this is due to the certain perfection that movies show, which makes even the cynical Holden entranced. He believes movies are phony and clearly displays blatant disgust towards them, but from what is seen, this could be because despite thinking movies are fake, he wishes his life would be more similar to a movie. The main characters in movies have interesting and exciting lives, and to Holden, this perfection is just phony, unreal, and sickening. Furthermore, maybe also something he wishes for. Due to such wishes that contrast to his critical and judgmental nature, he despises movies, coldly stating that they “ruin“ people. 



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“What I really felt like though, was committing suicide. I felt like jumping out the window. I probably would’ve done it too, if I’d been sure somebody’d cover me up as soon as I landed”(136). 

Holden is saying this when he is getting in bed after a rough night where Maurice stole  five dollars from him. This was just after he was held against the wall and roughed up while they stole his wallet and grabbed the money.

I find this quote interesting because it is really showing how quickly Holdens life is going down. Holden started with a great life with a family of five and a good friend named Jane. Since then he has gotten kicked out of four boarding schools lost his friend Jane and more importantly his brother passed away to Leukemia. His life has even gone down since he left Pencey, and it’s only been a few days since he’s left. Holden has made many bad decisions and a horrible decision that he made tonight to trust Maurice but after all he is a 16 year old kid. Holden can turn his life around quickly and the thought of suicide should stay off his mind.


]]> 2021-03-31 13:41:51 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1371773691 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1372814534 Goddam money.  It always ends up making you blue as hell"(113).

This is when Holden had just donated 10 dollars to the nuns. and had just eaten and payed for his food.

This is interesting because he is talking about how money makes you depressed, and having too much or too little could make you depressed. He also mentions many things beings depressing in his life. His life in general is in a depressing state, and many things are making him depressed. such as money now, fresh thoughts of Allie's death, getting beat up twice. and many other things that have just been making him depressed lately.]]> 2021-03-31 17:53:40 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1372814534 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1373082283 "She hasn't felt too healthy since my brother Allie died. She's very nervous. That's another reason why I hated like hell for her to know I got the ax again."(page 56)

This shows us that Holden cares for his mother deeply and that the whole family has been suffering since Allie died.]]> 2021-03-31 19:05:37 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1373082283 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1373165239 “ what I did, I finally put my suitcase under my bed, instead of on the rack, so that Old Slagle wouldn’t get a  goddam inferiority complex about it.”

This happened after Holden kept mentioning how he felt bad for his roommate because his suitcases were very cheap compared to Holdens, and that it was ‘depressing him’. 

This quote is significant as Holden is of more self-centered in ways, and more harshly judgmental towards others but in this part he is acting in a very compassionate way that really shows his empathetic and soft-hearted side that we haven’t really seen before this.]]> 2021-03-31 19:30:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1373165239 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1375953011 “It made me so damn sad  when I thought about it, their never going anywhere swanky for lunch or anything. I knew it wasn’t too important, but it made me sad anyways”(126). 

Holden says this after he leaves the restaurant. He is thinking about how the nuns would never get to go somewhere nice.

I think this quote is interesting because it shows how Holden is feeling about everything. While it doesn’t seem too important that they couldn’t go, it still made him sad. This sort of shows how he is depressed and how everything is making him depressed. I think that Holden needs help because he definitely isn’t in a good mental state. ]]> 2021-04-01 16:25:48 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1375953011 charleslai25 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1383269766 “I said I’d enjoyed talking to them a lot, too. I meant it, too.” 

Holden tells us this after he talks with the nuns he met at the bench. He reflects back on how he felt about the conversation.

This quote really struck me as interesting and important because it shows us how lonely he felt without being in the presence of people. He tells us that truly he really loved talking to those people, and I think he would like it if there were always people around for him to talk to. He is isolated on his own little island and needs the support and energy of others to bring him back to the mainland.]]> 2021-04-05 14:22:45 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1383269766 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384864403 “I said I’d enjoyed talking to them a lot, too”
This quote is from when Holden is talking to the nuns and he’s saying he actually enjoy the conversation he had with them.

This quote caught my eye because throughout the book Holden has been extremely picky with who he talks to. He always says that he never really enjoys the conversations he has with people, he just doesn’t want to be rude and not talk to people. I think this quote is important to the story because it’s showing that Holden might be loosening up a bit because there are a select few people he enjoys talking to. He really loved talking to AllI’d But now that he’s gone, Holden had never really enjoyed any conversations.]]> 2021-04-05 22:02:42 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384864403 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384877473 “I got a cab outside the hotel, but didn’t have the faintest damn idea where I was going. I had no place to go”(139). 

Holden thinks this when he is leaving the hotel in the morning right after he made a date with sally Hayes and he is about to go get breakfast. 

I find this quote interesting because it makes me wonder if Holden keeps going to all these random places like the hotel, bar, club, park, because he has no where to go. Maybe by him going to all these places it makes him feel like he has a place to go when really he doesn’t totally belong anywhere. At home his parents will be mad and disappointed at him, He keeps getting kicked out of schools, so he probably just wants to feel like he belongs somewhere.]]> 2021-04-05 22:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384877473 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384916664 “I thought of giving old Jane a buzz, to see if she was home yet and all, but I wasn’t in the mood.” (Pg 117)
This takes place in the very beginning of the chapter when Holden wakes up. 
I think this scean shows Holdens loneliness and longing for his past relationship with Jane. I think he says he wasn’t in the mood to cover up his own feeling of sadness and loneliness from himself because he Subconsciously knows he can’t take it. ]]> 2021-04-05 22:34:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1384916664 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1385166911 “She hasn’t felt too healthy since my brother Allie died. She’s very nervous.” (130)

Holden is thinking about his mother, who has been affected by the death of one of her sons. We don’t meet her yet, but Holden is trying to describe his mother to readers and how Allie’s death has changed her.

I find this quote interesting because it is the complete opposite of how Holden handles Allie’s death. Holden’s mother is nervous and destroyed over the death of one of her sons, and we know this even when we haven’t met the character yet. Holden however, is more violent and angry compared to his mother, a prime example is punching out all the garage windows. One would think that since they are family, maybe they would think or act the same when experiencing the same trauma. However, the way Holden and his mother grieve or act after the death of Allie are completely different.]]> 2021-04-06 00:53:10 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1385166911 mitchellcolvin25 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1385624681 “The last time I’d eaten was those two hamburgers I had with brossard and Ackley when we went to Agerstown to the movies”

This quote is at the very beginning of chapter 15, when Holden has just woken up.

I find this quote interesting because when we saw Maslow hierarchy of needs, at the very bottom were things like food and shelter. Now that Holden finally got a good rest, his decision making is improving. Some examples are when he is talking to the nuns. He is feeling depressed, but he talks to them and donates money. I feel like Holden has started to finally get back on his feet and figure out life. ]]> 2021-04-06 04:34:59 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1385624681 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386687598 2021-04-06 11:52:43 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386687598 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386732972 “Then a funny thing happened. When I got to the museum, all of a sudden I wouldn't have gone inside for a million bucks.”

After this quote, Holden states he would’ve gone if Phoebe, his younger sister, had. But since she didn’t, he wouldn’t go in. Perhaps this somehow relates to Holden’s loneliness or obsession with the purity that came from when he was a child. ]]> 2021-04-06 12:07:51 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386732972 https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386758278 “I was smoking a cigarette and when I stood up to say good-by to them, by mistake I blew some smoke in their face”(147).

This is when Holden is in the cafe talking to the two very nice teachers that were there with him. He was talking about Romeo and Juliet with them.

This quote shows that Holden really does care about people that are nice to him and people he can talk to. If Holden were to have done that to an ordinary person then he wouldn’t have apologized like that. But since it was people who really cared abiut him he felt really bad about it]]> 2021-04-06 12:15:48 UTC https://padlet.com/mnagle10/f6xit591qj2qsfuc/wish/1386758278