https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3 Choose 2 columns that you want to contribute to and post one comment below each. en-us 2021-04-06 21:28:22 UTC 2025-11-10 20:04:32 UTC hello@padlet.com eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389153249 2021-04-06 21:29:01 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389153249 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389154698 2021-04-06 21:29:46 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389154698 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389157156 2021-04-06 21:30:56 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389157156 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389169336 2021-04-06 21:37:08 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389169336 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389169740 2021-04-06 21:37:20 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389169740 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389170710 2021-04-06 21:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389170710 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171192 2021-04-06 21:38:02 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171192 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171547 2021-04-06 21:38:14 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171547 eunsun23_5 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171909 2021-04-06 21:38:25 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1389171909 hanbraid https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1391053671 L2 use is beyond the primary scope of SLA, where the primary goal is understanding the functions of acquiring linguistic knowledge in the L2, not on communication and L2 usage. Although SLA should be studied with regards to context, it is not a central goal of the research field. - Hannah]]> 2021-04-07 12:15:24 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1391053671 hanbraid https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1391061498 The "obsession" with the learner in SLA is one of its major downfalls. The field is too mechanistic and individualistic, leading it to ignore the interaction occurring between interlocutors. - Hannah]]> 2021-04-07 12:17:49 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1391061498 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395605828 Both SLA and Second language use need to consider whether is learning-centered or learners-centered. It will help the L2 learners figure out the needs and intention and thus, it will make sense whether their acquisition or use should be separated for different individual needs.----Jasmine]]> 2021-04-08 12:52:21 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395605828 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395635963 The primary goal of SLA in social-interaction filed is conveying effective messages in the communicative process, with this in mind, the grammatical errors might be valued less important since the interlocutor could complete understandable talk even if they are not traditional defined "successful" learners.----Jasmine]]> 2021-04-08 12:59:07 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395635963 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395925111 The label of "native speaker" refers to only a person who has grown up with a specific language as their first language and the term "non-native speaker" refers to someone who hasn't. The label of "non" doesn't have to mean something is inherently wrong or missing, it is just a label to distinguish between individuals. 
-Jessica C.]]> 2021-04-08 13:57:48 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395925111 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395940514 When a miscommunication happens, the breakdown in communication the interlocutors involved in this interaction have a shared incompetence. In SLA, these "deficiencies" will provide some details and information into the nature of the linguistic systems and lead to the "correct forms". 
-Jessica C.]]> 2021-04-08 14:00:50 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1395940514 naobuzhu31 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396008737 Meaning is co-constructed by mutual language use between interlocutors. That is to say, regardless of speakers' competence, speakers' actual language performances, and thus "acquisition" or "development" of the target language, vary according to what they want to convey in certain contexts (e.g. identity).- Ye]]> 2021-04-08 14:13:33 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396008737 naobuzhu31 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396018576 NNS discourse has same features of that of NS such as triggers/repair/ misunderstandings (Gass, 1988) or "wax and wane" (Larson-Freeman, 2007). In this sense, it does not matter if a speaker is native/ non-native to have some particular language performance patterns for communication in contexts or to be studied in research (maybe particularly CA analysis?). -Ye]]> 2021-04-08 14:15:25 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396018576 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396208482 The idea that people make mistakes is nothing new. However, it's the focus on these errors that always put NNSs in the "deficient" category which can hinder learning outcomes. How is one supposed to gain confidence if they are always told they will never be fluent enough? That's why successes of language outcomes, the ability to communicate, should be the main focus. -Shweta]]> 2021-04-08 14:51:48 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396208482 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396231878 There is a difference between a user of a language and a learner of one. Neither are fundamentally bad, they are simple different definitions used by people with different goals to their research. -Shweta]]> 2021-04-08 14:56:29 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396231878 shafferloganm https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396443397 In their utilization of the terms NS and NNS, cognitivists researching language use create an unattainable, omniscient concept that does not exist in the real world.  Therefore, L2 learners are always being compared to an unattainable, unrealistic abstraction which ultimately frames them as deficient. - Logan]]> 2021-04-08 15:38:16 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396443397 shafferloganm https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396475217 SLA and L2 use do not need to be separated per se, but if SLA researchers engage in analyzing language use in their research, then they should be aware of the deleterious effects that proposing non-consensus terms in their literature will have on the field as a whole (e.g. NS, NNS).  For a field that  takes a more theoretical stance, SLA researchers sure seem to avoid engaging in establishing their terms and definitions -- a crucial aspect to making any argument or claim. - Logan]]> 2021-04-08 15:44:36 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396475217 alenasonlyguanggao https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396592892 The goal for learning and using language is to ease the communication, during which process a lot of other languages might also be counted, like body movement and eye contact. With that being said, over emphasising on structural corectiveness might get into the way of message forming when people talk. ——Alena]]> 2021-04-08 16:08:48 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396592892 alenasonlyguanggao https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396644945 It is not possible for NNS to be like NS, unlike they were born and raised in the cuontry. Also, the term NS could bring uncessary anxiety for NNS. Also, it might form a venerate impression of NNS in the displine. Alena]]> 2021-04-08 16:19:26 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1396644945 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397191789 The terms NNS and NS are problematic in the sense that in their usage in research, the focus is on what the NNS lacks in comparison to the NS (deficits). The one way comparison is unfair and unrealistic; SLA should adopt new phrasing which in turn would adjust how research is approached
 -Catie]]> 2021-04-08 18:21:05 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397191789 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397217542 Although it is easy to find mistakes and errors in speech and offer corrections from that perspective, there are so many other factors at play that influence our communication. And not every speaker strives for NS fluency. Additionally, looking at successful interactions provides researchers and educators with a better/stronger idea of what actually works, which they then can apply to other learners and situations. -Catie]]> 2021-04-08 18:27:36 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397217542 zhujinyi0423 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397668696 Second language acquisition and language use are connected to each other. In the acquisition of the target language, we can observe the process of the acquisition through the use of language and observe the differences in the language use due to the variance of social contexts. Grace]]> 2021-04-08 20:36:23 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397668696 zhujinyi0423 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397681496 Language is aims to make people able to communicate. The acquisition of the target language should focus more on the communication competence rather than the grammar competence. In the "errors", people can observe the differences in the language use and the main goal of learning a language is help people to understand each other that I understand as the "success". Grace]]> 2021-04-08 20:41:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397681496 zhujinyi0423 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397695114 The terms NS and NNS are problematic that they contains ideologies that NNS means the deficiency in the target language learning. The second language acquisition should eliminate the ideologies in the language learning and maybe can term the NNS into a positive perspective like the way the turn anxious into a good thing. Grace]]> 2021-04-08 20:46:55 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397695114 zhouyangliu96 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397899500 I‘m more lean to the idea that language - as a social and cultural phenomenon is acquired and learned through social interaction. More likely, the second language acquisition and use are happened under different social contexts and thus should be studies separately. - Flora]]> 2021-04-08 22:29:53 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397899500 zhouyangliu96 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397905911 Although I do agree that focusing on the "success" part would encourage language learners and acknowledge their contribution, the study of "problems" would have more benefits because we could find out things that "go wrong" or factors that hinder the successful communication, thus learn from the lesson and improve more. - Flora]]> 2021-04-08 22:34:12 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397905911 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397945131  L2 learners are seen as still in a transitioning phase of gaining native-like competence and deviating from the standard are seen as "fossilizations" (Firth and Wagner, 1997). However, this is not necessarily the case. One should take into consideration the purpose of using a language as varying factors affect the way language is used. ]]> 2021-04-08 23:00:48 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397945131 iamcrystalzhu https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397955852 The ultimate goal of learning a language is to use it as a tool for communication. The reason that learning a  language is to be able to use it in daily conversation. Considering social in language learning can help students cope with the occasions they need. Express ideas accurately in a specific context. _Crystal]]> 2021-04-08 23:08:14 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397955852 iamcrystalzhu https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397963548 Learners learn languages ​​for different purposes. Some are for passing exams, and some are for daily conversations. Although all of this learning is based on the correct use of language, educators should make targeted distinctions to provide students with suitable teaching materials.]]> 2021-04-08 23:13:52 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397963548 https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397964893  Nonnative speakers are not considered deficient communicators as the possible miscommunication between native speakers and nonnative speakers could be due to either individual within the conversation. (Gass ,1998).]]> 2021-04-08 23:14:44 UTC https://padlet.com/eunsun23_5/dwy1g36izukh2gr3/wish/1397964893