Chapter 17-19 by Lyndsey Presnell https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7 Post one of your entries from DJ 17-19. Include the quote (use ellipses if needed), your full response and a picture that represents the quote. Don't forget your name! en-us 2016-11-03 14:12:36 UTC 2025-10-28 01:07:57 UTC hello@padlet.com Luz Ascencio https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135101524 "You mean i can go out and sin, do bad things, throw fingers, say bad words, look through the peep-hole ... and when I'm about to die I just go to confession and make communion and i go to heaven?" ]]> 2016-11-03 14:45:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135101524 Alexis Martin https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135101666 I didn't turn one in.

]]> 2016-11-03 14:46:00 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135101666 Ashlee Fragoso https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135229771 Entry #3:"They compete with God, they disturb the seasons, they seek to know more than God himself. In the end, that knowledge they seek will destroy us all"(Anaya, 190).

Analysis:The significance of this quote is the relation to the hero's journey and his true religious views. He questions so much, but in the end he's only breaking his head because he is asking the wrong people Hes making his own assumptions about the way God is and why he does things, but he does't really get to know him, it is also the same situation with the golden carp and other spiritual and religious figures.  ]]> 2016-11-03 20:06:04 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135229771 Kayonna Williams https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135256973 "The blood of Lupito, the blood of Narcisco, winding its way along the river, crying on the hills of the llano..."(Anaya, 219). 

Analysis: The flashback that Antonio implies the the deaths that he witnessed deeply affected him. He was only 7 when he witnessed both deaths. The deaths of Lupito and Narcisco haunt him. It is believed that Antonio feels some type of guilt for their deaths and that the world is on his shoulders and it is his responsibility to save it. ]]> 2016-11-03 22:53:27 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135256973 Samantha Canales https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381503 ¨But it wasn´t just breaking the rules, I countered, I guess because I was still Trying to hold on to God. I didn´t want to give Him up like Florence had. I did not think I could live without God. (pg. 196)

-Anaya shows Tony´s point of view of his religion, which showed that he has a lot of questions because not all of it makes sense to him. But, he is trying to hold the idea of idea because he doesn´t want to destroy his mother´s dream of being a priest. At the end, it says ¨I did not think that I could live without God¨. I feel like that means that ever since school his eyes have open or he´s more opened-minded. Now, he sees that God is just an idea.]]> 2016-11-04 14:05:07 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381503 Betty A. Montes  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381539 " Maybe its like the priest said,' I finally stammered , ' maybe God puts obstacles infront of us so that we will have to overcome them. And if we have to overcome all the hard and bad things , then we will be good catholics, and earn the rightto be with him in heaven-"( pg. 196). 


Analysis: This quote has connotation, conflict, and magical realism. The way this connects to confilct its since the kids are worrying about what to do in order to not go to hell. They are over stressing . It also reflects a neutral connotation , since he's good in it as becoming closer to God or negative towards it. ]]> 2016-11-04 14:05:14 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381539 Diana Berumen  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381894 "'No, no' i begged but they surrounded me. Earnie took off his sweater and draped it around me. 'His priests dress!' he shouted and the others followed" (chapter 18 pg.209)

tony's friends find him to be extremely religious and tease him about being a priest. This is also point of view because we see how tony's friends view him and see him as very knowledgable about God. ]]> 2016-11-04 14:06:06 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135381894 Wendy Quintero https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135382474 "God knows everything. Man tries to know and his knowledge will kill us all. I want to know. i want to know the mysteries of God." (chapter 17, page 191) 


]]> 2016-11-04 14:07:28 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135382474 Arizbeth N https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135382968 "I wondered how the priest could shoulder the burden of all sins he heard... the weight of the sins will sink the town into the lake of the golden carp." 

Analysis: The author is describing figurative language. "The weight of sins will sink the town..." is saying people have greatly sinned. People are committing more sins than they do with being good and doing good. And eventually "the town will sink" since it is surrounded by bodies of water.
]]> 2016-11-04 14:08:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135382968 Maria https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383242 "God knows everything. Man tries to know and his knowledge will kill us all. I want to know the mysteries of God. I want to take God into..." (pg.191) 
]]> 2016-11-04 14:09:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383242 Melissa Luzanilla https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383476 "The knowledge of this was frightful. I had many dreams of different people burning in the fires of hell", ( pg. 204). 

Analysis: The tone was fierce in this because Tony is scared he is now doing something that is very special to his family , yet he doesn't have the same perspectives as them. The was it's viewed is as if he is worried to see what will happen next. The dialogue explains his thought towards the whole situation. 
]]> 2016-11-04 14:09:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383476 Leonardo Saldana https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383484 "A thousand questions pushed through my mind, but the voice within me did not answer. There was only silence. Perhaps I had not prepared right"(pg. 221).
Like the climax, this is where the most shocking, dramatic, etc. event happens; hell or heaven. Tony is at panic a little; wondering if something he forgot to do. Tony is doing it, but he might be doing this wrong like this isn't the way to do it exactly]]> 2016-11-04 14:09:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135383484 Jasmine Gonzalez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135384163 "They comete with god, they disturb the seasons they seek to know more than god himself." (190)

The quote is point of view because its says how they didn't believe or think god is a failure. They probably think they believe more in the golden carp. Somethings are making the not believe in god not so much.]]> 2016-11-04 14:11:20 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135384163 Patrick i https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135386700 ¨There is no other day like Ash Wednesday. The proud and the meek, the arrogant and the humble are all made equal on Ash Wednesday.¨
(pg. 203)]]> 2016-11-04 14:17:00 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135386700 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135387436 2016-11-04 14:18:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135387436 91062158 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135388614 " why... a thousand questions.. the voice within me did not answer." (page 221)

I felt as if tony was either second guessing himself or his religion. His curiosity has left him with unanswered questions. All these unanswered questions will eventually lead to him either abandoning his religion.]]> 2016-11-04 14:21:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135388614 Jacqueline Rodriguez  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135389241 "We came out of the dusty alley and onto the wind-swept barren grounds that surrounded the church. The massive brown structure rose into the dusty sky and held the cross of Christ for all to see. I had listened to Florence's heresy...," (197). 

Analysis: 
Tony doesn't want to be afraid of anything such as the church or god itself. Most of his friends are religious so if Tony were to believe in another god he'll be judged, like Florence . ]]> 2016-11-04 14:23:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135389241 Rashad Ruff https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135389597 " The air smelled like the new white linen of the resurrection"(217).


This is part of the rising action. The author included this to show that Antonio is looking forward to what's coming. He is making observations to help him remember this moment. Antonio seems to be focused on Catholicism. This outcome was foreshadowed by his mother since the beginning of the story. But I am still surprised because of all of the conflict between Catholicism, Ultima, and the Golden Carp.
]]> 2016-11-04 14:23:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135389597 Bishop Lebron https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135390394 "The body is not important. It is made of dust;it is made of ashes. It is food for the worms."(pg. 203)
]]> 2016-11-04 14:25:37 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135390394 Joshua Rivera https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391731 "No,' I nodded. 'Are you going to confession?' I asked him. 'No,' he muttered. 'LIke I said, I only wanted to be with you guys--I cannot eat God,' he added"(pg.215).

Analysis: Florence just can't stand god in a way. He can't stand him or just can't learn from him. This is because of his past with his parents and his sisters because they are whores. Florence is sort of using figurative language to describe his dislike towards God.]]> 2016-11-04 14:28:41 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391731 Lenesha Deverow https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391734 " A thousand questions pushed through my mind, but the voice within me did not answer. There was only silence perhaps I had not prepared right"


 Analysis:
Tony is wondering to much. He didn't have the courage to say anything. It was all in his head but nothing came out of his mouth. He feels as if it wasn't the right moment to say anything. Tony was second guessing himself and his religion.]]> 2016-11-04 14:28:41 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391734 Nancy Torres https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391910 " I sat on the hard, wooden pew and shivered. God knows everything. Man tries to know and his knowledge will kill us all.  want to know. I wont to know the mysteries of God. I want to take God into my body and have Him answer my questions... I wondered if the knowledge I sought would destroy me. But it couldnt , It was Godś knowledge - ¨ (191). 

Analysis: 
His loss in innocence is a common and repeated archetype. Tony started to believe more in God but know he questions all of his beliefs. ]]> 2016-11-04 14:29:06 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135391910 Crystal Ramos  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135392203 " 'God is supposed to know everything, all right, then why didn't he make this earth without bad or evil things in it? Why didn't he make us so that we would always be kind to each other?..."

Analysis: Florence's questioning of God had startled Antonio. Tony always thought everyone believed in God. Antonio soon finds himself questioning God. 

]]> 2016-11-04 14:29:43 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135392203 Rashel Dominguez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135392679 "'Give him a penance! Make him ask for forgiveness for those terrible things he said about God!' Agnes insisted. They were gathering behind me now, I could feel their presence and hot, bitter breath. They wanted me to be their leader, they wanted me to punish Florence" (Pg. 213).

Analysis: Tony didn't want to punish Florence because that wad his friend. He can't be a priest if he won't give people penance for blasphemy. There is connotation: "bitter breath" which means the kids really wanted Florence to be punished. ]]> 2016-11-04 14:30:51 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135392679 Saige Miranda  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135393460 2016-11-04 14:32:36 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135393460 Kaylah Lofland https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135399174 "On the alter the priest began the ceremony of changing the  bread into flesh and blood" (219).

Analysis:This quote]]> 2016-11-04 14:46:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135399174 Esteban Gutierrez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135435820 "Ultima says a man's destiny must unfold itself like a flower,
with only the sun and the earth and water making it blossom,
and no one else meddling in it-"

No one can tell anyone exactly how to live life they can just be an example. in this quote the flower is Tony and the sun and water is everything else he sees.]]> 2016-11-04 16:19:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135435820 Jessica Rincon https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135436698   ¨ For a moment I couldnt answer.The questions Florence had posed were the same questions I wanted answered.¨ ( page 196)

Analysis: Antonio is usually really religious but he is also starting to question God. He wants answers and he wants to know why certain things are happening. He is all of a sudden questioning God Just like Florence. He doesnt even know if there is a God or any power.
]]> 2016-11-04 16:22:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135436698 Tyler Tanner  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437174 "...Bread made flesh..." 

Analysis: It would make sense to a religious person or someone that actually goes to Church. The bread is representing God's flesh. The wine represents his blood. So when you drink the wine and eat the bread God is inside you now and is flowing through you. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:23:16 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437174 emily g. https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437411 ¨ Like a young tree bends with the wind, so a man must bow to the earth - It is only when man grows old and refuses to admit this earth-tie and dependence on mother nature that the powers of mother nature will turn upon him and destroy him, like the strong wind cracks an old, dry tree ... It is we who misuse the earth and must pay for our sins---¨ (192 Anaya).

Analysis:
This quote relates to the archetype of the relationship between a man and the earth. It is saying that however we treat the earth whether it is good or bad it will return to us. All the sins we make affects the earth in a way especially since in this case it is talking about using bombs.

]]> 2016-11-04 16:23:57 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437411 JosephDale Layones https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437511 "I wondered if the knowledge I sought would destroy me." (page 191)

Analysis: This relates to the theme "Loss of Innocence." Tony wants to know why his loved ones have died. In this quote, its like he is willingly giving up who he is. When it says it would "destroy" him, it could also mean it could destroy his innocence. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:24:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437511 Yesenia Hernandez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437566 "The blood of Lupito, the blood of Narciso, winding its way along the river, crying on the hills of the llano" (Pg. 219). 

Analysis: The author uses kind of a flashback of Lupitoand Narciso's death. Once they started talking about the blood, all that came to his mind was Lupito and Narciso. The author might have included this to connect their blood to the blood of Christ. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:24:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135437566 Devoney A https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135438902 " You mean I can go out and sin,do bad things, throw fingers, say bad words, look through the peep hole..." (pg.192)
This quote is trying to show us that you can do all of these bad things but still be able to go up above as long as you show your forgiveness. When reading this in the book it made me think of how Tony's dad is a non believer and if this is the reason why he's a non believer.]]> 2016-11-04 16:27:56 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135438902 Lizeth P.  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135438957 "School work was dull and uninspiring compared to the mysteries of religion."  (Anaya 204)

Analysis: Magical Realism ]]> 2016-11-04 16:28:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135438957 Jacob Salter  91064216 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439210 "The rich Rancheros sucked the earth dry with their deep wells, and the heavy snows had to come and replenish the water in the earth. The greedy men overgrazed their ranches, and so now the wind picks up the barren soil and throws it in their faces. You have used me too much, the wind says for the earth, you have sucked me dry and stripped me bare"    

The ]]> 2016-11-04 16:28:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439210 Alejandro Esquivel https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439640 "I think if there is a hell it's just a place where you're left all alone, with nobody around you. Man, when you're alone you don't have to burn, just being by yourself for all of time would be the worst punishment the Old Man could give you" pg.195 ]]> 2016-11-04 16:30:09 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439640 Evelyn Alamillo https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439946 "I called to the God that was within me, but there was no answer. Only emptiness. I turned and looked at the stature of the Virgin. She was smiling, her outstretched arms offering forgiveness to all." 
This quote represents how unsatisfied. He was expecting all his life long questions to be answered, but all he got was silence.]]> 2016-11-04 16:31:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135439946 Jared Garcia https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440115 "It is god who has sinned against me!", his voice thundered and we fell back in horror at the blashphemy he uttered." (pg.213)

Analysis:  In this quote there is so much imagery because you could feel how much power his voice had through his situation ]]> 2016-11-04 16:31:35 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440115 Valerie Pineda https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440185 Quote: Man tries to know and his knowledge will kill us all.i want to now.I want to know the mysteries of God(191).
Analysis: Tony wants to remain pure or innocent but he wants to know what he does not.But he believes to much knowledge can kill man which is connected to the christian and catholic belief that when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit they became sinful and when they became sinful the punishment was death."The wages of sin is death".
]]> 2016-11-04 16:31:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440185 wendy carrillo https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440259 "The blood of Lupito, the blood of Narciso, winding, its way along the river, crying on, the hills of the Llano..." (pg. 219)


Analysis:  Flashback is used to remind us of the time Antonio witnessed the death of both Lupito and Narciso. He had many questions for God and its as if he was making a connection with the blood of those who he had lost and with God himself. 


]]> 2016-11-04 16:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440259 Yearim F.  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440260 "A thousand questions pushed through my mind, but the voice within me did not answer. There was only silence." (page. 221) 

Analysis: He had so many questions and no answers. Antonio had said, "I had called god within me and there was no answer", he probably started losing faith within his own religion. Since god wasn't answering none of his questions his started losing faith within. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135440260 Yasmine Maddox https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441013 "Who made you,'he asked. God made me ,"we answered."Why did God make you." 

 This quote means that he in a way is questioning God he knows what he wants to be yet he is not sure yet. But he still does believe in him, just a little unaware.  ]]> 2016-11-04 16:34:12 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441013 Lisette Garcia https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441456 "The body is not important.It is made up of dust:it is made up of ashes.It is food for the worms.The winds and the waters dissolve it and scatter it to the four corners of the earth. In the end what we care most for only lasts a brief life time,then there is eternity."(page;203)








]]> 2016-11-04 16:35:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441456 " The Holy Mother Church took us under her wings and instructed us in her ways."(pg.190 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441539 2016-11-04 16:35:39 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135441539 Juan Alverez  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442118 "The Holy Mother Church took us under her wings and instructed us in her ways ."(pg.190)
]]> 2016-11-04 16:37:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442118 Evelyn Perez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442344 "We drove past Rosie's house and I thought about the sins of the town and how the golden carp would punish the sinners...Then we passed the church and I thought about God's punishment for sinners," (page 137). 

Analysis: There is so much symbolism and metaphors in this book and this is one. Antonio mentions both the carp and God side by side. It slowly shows Antonio's internal struggle. He has both right now but soon he will have to choose which one he wants to believe in and eventually it will all be gone. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:37:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442344 Marilyn Lopez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442685 " I had cleansed myself completely and prepared to take God into my body" (219).  
Analysis: Tony was ready to do his first communion. He was all prepared. This is a hero's journey, and point of view. We read and go through Tony's journey with him, so that is a hero's journey. Also, this is his point of view. 
 ]]> 2016-11-04 16:38:45 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442685 Carolinne Marquez  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442911 "'Maybe God comes in cycles ,like the weather,"I answered ]]> 2016-11-04 16:39:21 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135442911 Selena Cerros  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135443339 "A little bird, a sparrow is going to move that mountain for you. And the sparrow can only hold a little rain of sand in its beak. It ha to pick up only one grain of sand, fly all the way across the wide ocean, put down the grain of sand then fly all the way back for another grain of sand." 

This could be considered a metaphor because the priest says that this is only the first day of eternity. Unlike, Antonio's innocence, which will last only for a little while more because just like that it will gone. ]]> 2016-11-04 16:40:34 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135443339 Arlene Lopez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135444616 "A soul lives on forever." page 203
This quote is trying to signify when a soul lives forever is that the soul of a person never dies and it keeps living. This picture shows a question mark in the middle of the chest because we don't really know if a soul honestly lives on forever.]]> 2016-11-04 16:44:39 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135444616 Fatima Omar https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445105 " The face of Christ was imprinted on the cloth.Besides the virgin wore a blue robe,it was the holiest cloth on earth" (page:206)

Analysis: this quote represent Imagery because you can imagine the virgin wearing the blue robe with the face of Christ being imprinted on the cloth.]]> 2016-11-04 16:46:24 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445105 Melissa Alcaraz https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445179 "His face was very close to mine now, and when he shook his head to tell me again that he didn't have sins I saw a frightening truth in his eyes.  He was telling the truth! He did not believe that he had ever sinned against God! "oh my God." I heard myself gasp" (pg.212)

Analysis: Anaya uses epiphany to bring richness to the text. In this chapter epiphany is used in a more shockful tone. Antonio and the reader come to a realization on why Florence doesn't believe in God, and that is because he feels as if God put him on earth just to suffer. Knowing this the reader now understands and may give respect to Florence, for he lives a painful life.]]> 2016-11-04 16:46:36 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445179 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445863 2016-11-04 16:48:59 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135445863 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135446602 2016-11-04 16:51:27 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135446602 Everardo Camacho https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135446785 ¨I call again to God that was within me,but but there was no answer.¨ ¨Only emptiness.¨ ¨I turned and looked at the statue of the virgin.¨ ¨She was smiling, her out stretched arms offering forgiveness to all.¨ - page 221

The author uses dialogueGod wants Tony to solve his challenges to become more experience with the world around him. Contrast to seeking answers that will make him learn nothing or accomplish anything in the world.
]]> 2016-11-04 16:52:07 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135446785 Luis Morales  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135447273 After Easter i went to confession on every Saturday & on Sunday morning i took commune but i was not satisfied .The god I so eagerly to see  was not there.
Analysis:This means that maybe god wanted him to be independent ]]> 2016-11-04 16:53:43 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135447273 Ivonne Salgado https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135447286 "But the soul survives. The soul lives forever. It is the soul that must be saved, because the soul endure."

Even after the soul has died it doesn't mean its spirit has. Meaning even though one's body is not working anymore that doesn't mean the spirit has died along with it. One's spirit will now live upon the world watching as people stay pure or commit crimes.]]> 2016-11-04 16:53:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135447286 Joana Alba https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135495395 "I want to take God into my body and have Him answer my questions. Why was Narciso killed? Why does evil go unpunished? Why does He allow evil to exist?" (184).

Tony's crisis her is about all the questions he has that need to be answered. His questioning was triggered when he first experienced seeing the Golden Carp. This caused him to develop a new faith and question the restrictions of Catholicism. He had also experienced his first insight into the world of magic when Ultima lifts the curse from his uncle Lucas. Antonio's coming-of-age also has to do with his questioning. ]]> 2016-11-04 19:20:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135495395 Michelle Chun https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135495849 ¨Then a moan from the dying man called me and I walked to Narciso and knelt at his side. It was peaceful under the juniper tree¨ (162). 
The juniper tree is used as protection from witchcraft in Native American legend. I don´t think it was a mere coincidence that Narciso happened to die under that very tree. Narciso was a protector of Antonio, and his family, whether they knew it or not, they did still cherish him. ]]> 2016-11-04 19:22:08 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135495849 Chloe Farquhar  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135497684 "There was no more exciting experience than to be on the road to communion with God!"(183).
Assuming Tony is the hero of the story, this shows us a little bit of what his future looks like. His mother wants him to be a priest. Because his interest in God, this might actually come true.
]]> 2016-11-04 19:31:14 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135497684 Lupe Barcenas(: https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135498551 ¨I called again to the God that was within me, but there was no answer. Only emptiness. I turned and looked at the statue of the virgin. She was smiling, her outstretched arms offering forgiveness to all¨(221)
¨Answer¨ it is repeated many times directly and indirectly throughout certain parts of the book and especially the three chapters 17-19. The use of that repetition conveys to the reader how determined Antonio is to gain knowledge. He wants to better understand things and know more. This however is a problem because God isnt answering him. In a way Antonio finds more comfort in turning to La Virgen and he has a greater connection. Its almost as if he fears his God. 


]]> 2016-11-04 19:35:06 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135498551 Jennifer Arellano  https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499271 "God knows everything. Man tries to know and his knowledge will kill us all. I want to know. I want to know the mysteries of God. I want to take God into my body and have him answer my questions. Why was Narciso killed? Why does evil go unpunished? Why does he allow evil to exist? I wondered if the knowledge I sought would destroy me. But it couldn't it was God's knowledge -" (184) 
A common reoccurring theme in Bless Me, Ultima is Tony's relationship with religion and God. Here Tony is acknowledging that God knows all and he's superior to man but he also wants to go against the Church's teachings and seeks knowledge like His. For instance he wants to ask why He allows freedom to roam free? This contribute's to Tony's learning about the world around him which will contribute to the type of person he is. ]]> 2016-11-04 19:38:27 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499271 Raul Del Villar https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499317 "They compete with God, they disturb the seasons, they seek to know more than God himself. In the end that knowledge they seek will destroy us all"(190).
This quote uses an archetype of religion and in this quote, Antonio overhears some of the grown ups talking about how the unusual weather is a result of "The Atomic Bomb". Antonio heard this while at catechism, so the people there are very religious. I think that they believe that science is competing with religion, and they fear that with something as powerful as an atom bomb, science might win.]]> 2016-11-04 19:38:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499317 Gabriela Lopez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499442 "Swallow Him carefully, don't chew on him." (208)
The Eucharist is refer to "Him."  This symbol represents God and how Tony has finally has taken communion. Tony is hesitant because he thinks he'll feel or expect after taking "Him."]]> 2016-11-04 19:39:09 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499442 Juan Altamirano https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499561 "The soul lives forever"
The soul must be a symbol of eternity and there rest of there lives  depend on it. The soul is the part of you that is eternal and is not
ever killed or dies.]]> 2016-11-04 19:39:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499561 Paola H.Gil https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499625 "God! Why did Lupito die? Why do you allow the evil of the Trementinas? Why did you allow Narciso to be murdered when he was doing good? Why do you punish Florence? Why doesn't he believe? Will the golden carp rule-? A thousand questions pushed through my mind, but the voice within me did not answer. There was only silence." p.210-2111]]> 2016-11-04 19:40:01 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499625 Rosario Lope https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499978 "swallow Him carefully, don't chew on Him." (208)
In the Catholic religion, God becomes a part of you when you eat his bread and drink his wine. ]]> 2016-11-04 19:41:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499978 Alberto Pulido 91083256 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499990 "Sleep came, and with it came my dream-fate which drew me to the witches' blade mass. I saw all, and it was exactly as my uncle had described it. Then my dream-fate drew me to the coffin. I peered in and to my horror I saw Ultima." (132)]]> 2016-11-04 19:41:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135499990 Jose Torres https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500062 "The blood of Lupito, the blood of Narciso, winding its way along the river, crying on the hills of the llano..." (209)
The author includes a flashback to show that the deaths of Lupito and Narciso are still affecting Tony in a way. During his catechism he's thinking about them and how they've become a part of the earth again. The mention of blood brings them into Tony's mind.

]]> 2016-11-04 19:42:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500062 Leslie Casillas https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500095 "There wasn't time just to sit and discover Him, like I could do when I sat on the creek bank and watched the golden carp swim in the sun-filled waters" (210).
This quote is about the archetype, the golden carp. The golden carp has impacted Tony so much, that he starts to question his own religion. Here, Tony thinks that it is a lot easier to be with the golden carp than it is to be with God. This thinking is leading him away from his religion and might cause him to completely break away from Catholicism.]]> 2016-11-04 19:42:16 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500095 Perla Guzman https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500391 " I wandered how the priest could shoulder the burden of all the sins he heard."(202)
This quote is letting us see how  Tony is feeling about being a priest. He feels uncomfortable when he hears his friends tell their sins to him and therefore he realizes that being a priest isn't what he really wants to be.
]]> 2016-11-04 19:43:37 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500391 Humberto R. https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500969 "The weight of the jackets was making me sweat, and the revelation of Horse's confession and the way the kids were acting was making me sick. I wondered how the priest could shoulder the burden of all the sins he heard." (202)
The author uses internal conflict in chapter eighteen, to show that Tony realizes that a priest has to listen to the sins of the people. Tony feels really uncomfortable listening to the sins of his friends and wonders how the priest can handle hearing such things. This realization could lead to Tony not choosing to become a priest because he does not enjoy listening to horrible sins or seeing the actual behavior of people.]]> 2016-11-04 19:46:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135500969 Kimberly Diaz 91087667 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135501350 "Why did Lupito die? Why do you allow the evil of the trementinas?"(pg.211)
She uses the tone of desperation. That is because Tony is trying to express himself by questioning as in to why god took Lupito away from him. He also questions that and why bad things keep on happening.  ]]> 2016-11-04 19:48:22 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135501350 Michelle Calleja https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135501534 "The blood of Lupito, the blood of Narciso, winding its way along the river crying on the hills of the llano..."  (209).
There is still many deaths that haunt Antonio throughout the novel. His catechism is what brought back these memories and caused him to think about what their deaths meant to him.]]> 2016-11-04 19:49:16 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135501534 Rosario Lopez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502109 "'Don't go bite on God' Horse whispered. Swallow Him carefully, don't chew on Him" (208)
AS part of the Catholic bread, God lives within us when we eat his bread, which is his body.]]> 2016-11-04 19:52:02 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502109 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502127 2016-11-04 19:52:09 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502127 Esther B. https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502398 "i wondered how the priest could shoulder the burden off all the sins he heard."(202)
Tony doesn't like how hearing his  friends "sins". He starts to wonder if he doesn't want to become a priest.]]> 2016-11-04 19:53:31 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502398 Esth https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502399 2016-11-04 19:53:32 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135502399 Nathan "Asian" Silvestre https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135518542 "No!" I shouted,"there will be no punishment, there will be no penance! His sins are forgive!" I turned and made the sign of the cross..."I am the priest!" I shouted back," and I have abolished him of his sins!" (204/205)
Analysis: In this quote many factors can be determined, first Tony is seen as a Christ figure as he holds up a cross, forgives Florence, and is beaten for what he had did. This confirms Tony is indeed a Christ figure in the story. It is also seen that this is Tony's coming of age as well as he acts a priest to the group of kids as he forgives Florence, in doing this he actually becomes a priest fulfilling his mother's dream. ]]> 2016-11-04 22:56:31 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135518542 Brianna Plascencia 91121883 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135519363 "In that moment the wind swirled around me and drowned my words, and the heavens trembled with thunder. I gasped and looked up at the bell tower"(190). The author uses figurative language to convey that Tony immediately regrets saying that there might be different gods out loud. It makes him feel as if he has gone against his religion by doing so. It seems to me that Tony interprets this event as a warning from god to stop saying and thinking that there are multiple gods.
]]> 2016-11-04 23:21:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135519363 Aracely https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135528594 "How can God let this happen to a kid. I never asked to be born. But he gives me birth, a soul, and puts me here to punish me. Why? What did I ever do to Him to deserve this, huh?" p(188)
Florence isn't really angry with god he is angry of the fact that his life is just filled with  sadness because his parents left him at a young age and just doesn't understand why God would put him that situation. 
  ]]> 2016-11-05 06:06:18 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135528594 Guadalupe Gonzalez https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135903067 "The atomic bomb," they whispered, "a ball of white heat beyond the imagination, beyond hell - " And they pointed south, beyond the green valley of El Puerto. "Man was not made to know so much," the old ladies cried in hushed, hoarse voices. "They compete with God, they disturb the seasons, they seek to know more than God Himself. In the end, that knowledge they seek will destroy us all - "(189)
The townspeople are conflicted with science and religion. This is especially noted on older, more traditional individuals. They consider knowledge that gives birth to doubt in God a negative thing. Religion helps explain the things they cannot explain themselves.]]> 2016-11-07 19:04:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/135903067 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/276803548 2018-08-31 03:58:50 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/276803548 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/399738802 2019-10-18 20:48:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/399738802 https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/1530107762 2021-05-17 06:29:08 UTC https://padlet.com/lpresnell/drb6wjf9j9a7/wish/1530107762