https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf What kind of life does Sophocles seem to advocate in the play? en-us 2017-04-26 12:54:26 UTC 2025-11-24 01:17:41 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168361389 Sophocles advocates that people should not be prideful and should not be self-governing in their lives. As seen in Antigone, these things caused the downfall of two main characters: Creon and Antigone. ]]> 2017-04-26 13:27:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168361389 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168380060 Sophocles seems to advocate the life of tyranny in the play. The play seems to have social hierarchy incorporated in Antigone. At first, King Creon has hubris because he is the king. He believes that he is right and that only he can make a decision. In "Antigone" translated by Ian Johnston, Creon says "Don't yield to those who contravene my orders." (line 251). This shows how he expects people to obey him because he is the king. "And so I have the throne, all royal power..." (line 196). Creon points out the amount of power he has over the city and the people. Later on, Haemon comes in and explains what King Creon has done wrong. He tells Creon that "Because of who you are, you can't perceive all the things men say or do --- or their complaints." (lines 781-782). This shows how tyrannical he is and how he makes his own decisions without consulting anyone else. ]]> 2017-04-26 14:15:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168380060 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168380913 2017-04-26 14:17:40 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168380913 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168385401 Sophocles appears to be advocating a lifestyle in which has some measures of restraint and balance. Antigone and her main antagonist, Creon, do not act like this. They go to extremes in pursuing their ideas; Antigone obsessed with family duties, Creon preoccupied with state affairs. When Antigone says" I am not afraid of the danger; if it means death, it will not be the worst of deaths-death without honor."(Lines 80-81)]]> 2017-04-26 14:29:22 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168385401 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168406292 Sophocles seems to advocate a lifestyle of self-restraint when it comes to pride. At the beginning of Antigone, Antigone felt that she had a duty to her family when it came to burying her dad/brother. But, throughout the play she began to grow more and more prideful, when she refused to follow Creon's order to bury her family, and when she turned away Ismene, her own sister because she didn't want to forgive Ismene for not helping Antigone bury their brother/dad. Although Antigone's journey may have started out to please the gods,  her inflated pride is what killed her. This is seen again with Creon, Creon's pride is what starts all this mess in  the first place, his pride makes him want to seem like a better ruler than the one before him, which leads him to declare that Polynecies should not be buried even though, Eteocles was guilty of the same crime as Polynecies Then Creon continued to put his pride, and what people would think of him first when he gave Antigone such a harsh punishment, since she made a fool of him by breaking his first order as king.. So in order to avoid dying, or living a life filled with suffering, Sophocles promotes practicing restraint in pride]]> 2017-04-26 15:23:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168406292 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168408765 Sophocles claims that the very essence of human nature is inevitable; ironically, even in a self-proclaimed paragon like Antigone would have the human flaw of hubris. Sophocles places this theme in the form of the conflict between familial values and political priorities; the choice was depended on the human's mind to yield or to remain unchanged. The reader would find that Creon was overtly antagonistic, always aiming to be politically correct and take a neutral stance on all matters, even on his own family matters. Antigone on the other hand, claims to be dutiful to her family and bury her brother. The key that defined the true antagonist of the story is the changing of the characters. Antigone's hubris blinded her from seeing that she had support from others, and that she was not the lone paragon. Her unrepented hubris ultimately constituted her death, whereas Creon was willing to change. He surrendered his hubris to fulfill his familial duties, though suffered an extent of catharsis for his past actions.]]> 2017-04-26 15:30:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168408765 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168409520 In the play, Sophocles seems to advocate a life that consists of prioritizing moral principles. For example, Antigone wanted to give her brother a proper burial since it that shows honor. She also wanted to do this because keeping a corpse unburied is considered a sin. Although initially Ismene did not want to follow through with Antigone’s plan, she eventually realizes that her sister was trying to do something righteous. Eventually, Ismene’s mindset becomes similar to Antigone’s by putting virtue first. Antigone says, “I am not afraid of the danger; if it means death, it will not be the worst of deaths —death without honor.” (Line 80-81) She does not even think about the consequence of death since she just wants to do the right thing.]]> 2017-04-26 15:32:41 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168409520 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168504426 Sophocles seems to advocate the life involving consequences of your wrongdoings. In Antigone, he emphasizes Creon’s pride in his position as king. Creon wanted everyone to follow his idea to honor Eteocles and not Polyneices. Afterwards, he decides to punish Antigone because went against his decree. As a result of his pride, he was informed by Teiresias, a blind prophet, that the gods will not agree with Creon’s actions. “This is your crime: And the Furies and the dark gods of Hell are swift with terrible punishment for you.” (847) The gods want all of the dead to be buried, and since Creon did not want Polyneices to be honored, the gods wish to punish him. In Antigone, Sophocles advocates how the actions you take could have major consequences. ]]> 2017-04-26 21:21:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168504426 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168505456 The kind of life that Sophocles portrays in the play shows a life of hubris and how it can lead to consequences. A perfect example is Antigone, the protagonist, who is defined as a "perfect character" if you don't notice her own flaw which is hubris itself. What led to her downfall was her refusal to allow others o help her. In scene 1, after being persuaded by Antigone, Ismene agrees to bury Polynecis. However, Antigone refuses by saying, "I should not want you, even if you asked to come. " (Line 53). Later on, before she committed suicide, she contemplates her decisions on doing things on her own. Perhaps things may have been different if Antigone's pride was not so high. Antigone is not the only character who is prideful, but also Creon as well. Just like Antigone, Creon is unwilling to listen to anyone at first. This is because his own pride caused him to not acknowledge what he has done wrong. Even as Teiresias tries to warn him by saying, "The time is not far off when you shall pay back corpse for corpse, flesh of your own flesh" (Line 842-843). This is hinting on the death of Haemon because of what Creon has ordered to do with Antigone. He does not realize what he did wrong, but it was already too late for Antigone was already dead by then. ]]> 2017-04-26 21:28:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168505456 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168506061 The life Sophocles shows in the play is the having too much pride will lead to your downfall. Both Antigone and Creon have high amounts of pride. This of course as in any play would bring hubris. Both Creon and Antigone were able to save themselves from that but they chose not to listen and got  a horrible fate. They both lost something, Creon his son and Antigone lost her self resulting into suicide. Sophocles shows that having too much pride will bring heave consequences. ]]> 2017-04-26 21:33:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168506061 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168506880 Sophocles seems to advocate a life of misunderstanding and compromise. The play ‘Antigone’ includes a multitude of characters that seem to misunderstand and later compromise.  For example, Creon misunderstands everyone’s intentions personally as he believes that everyone mocks him because he is a new leader, however he still listens to his surroundings and takes into their arguments, even though he is stubborn and debates for his own beliefs. Even more so, Ismene is “excessively timid. Both are noble and both are flawed. Both reach a moment of truth and change course,” according to Antigone’s Flaw. Creon and Ismene have traits that allow them to listen and consider other’s opinions, however Antigone doesn’t. This is how Antigone is a tragic hero, she misses an obvious trait that many have in exchange for other characteristics such as, unwavering faith, ambition, courage, etc.]]> 2017-04-26 21:39:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168506880 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168507064 I believe Sophocles advocates a life of pride in the play Antigone. Throughout the whole book two main characters Creon and Antigone both show excessive pride in themselves. As in they were so full of themselves, they decided to ignore advice from people that were trying to save them. This would lead to hubris, although in Creon's point of view, he decides to chance and to listen to the advisers. Antigone on the other hand was so full of pride, she ended up facing death for it, she ended up facing hubris. Regardless, if she wasn't so prideful and decided to listen to her friends and her elders she maybe would've lived which was stated in the article Antigone's Flaw. "Antigone’s self-certainty and self-isolation cut short all possibilities for full deliberation. Yet full deliberation was needed to persuade Creon to change his mind. Had Antigone not isolated herself from her sister, Ismene would have stood by her side. Had she sought out Haemon, she would have had another ally. It seems likely that Eurydice, Haemon’s mother and Creon’s wife, would have joined the children’s revolt. She did register her objection to events in the end, through suicide. Had Antigone been ready to engage in politics, Creon would find himself facing the open opposition of all whom he loved. He has the capacity, as we know from his actions in the play, to yield." (Pg 7)]]> 2017-04-26 21:41:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168507064 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168507751 Sophocles advocate a very controlling and strict life. This because everyone is ruled by a king and nobody want to fight the king. Sophocles also shows that this type of life where one person does not listen to anyone does not work. He shows that you have to give and take to come to comprise. Antigone was very stubborn and wanted everything her way and was killed at the end. Not only did her stubbornness her self it killed the son and the wife of the king. Sophocles clearly is showing that this a very hard life for the people that lived in Thebes. Lastly Sophocles shows that a one ruler society will always have conflict because not everyone will agree.  "I hope that I shall never want to say! that you  Have reasoned badly. Yet there are other men Who can reason, too; and their opinions might be helpful " (545-547)]]> 2017-04-26 21:49:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168507751 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168508917 Sophocles advocates a life of holiness by abiding to the gods. Antigone and Ismene are faced with a dilemma when Creon refuses to bury their brother, Polyneices, which is against the traditions created by the gods. Antigone is portrayed valiantly because she wants to bury her brother, when she states, “You have made your choice, you can be what you want to be./ But I will bury him; and if I must die,/ I say that this crime is holy…” (Line 54-56).” Comparing this to Ismene’s weak attitude, Sophocles’s intentions are very clear. Furthermore, at the end of the play, it seems that everyone breaks away from their flaws and conforms to the life that Sophocles advocates. As the main antagonist, Creon was portrayed as an opponent of the gods, but in the end, he too repeals his sin. He cries, “This truth is hard to bear. Surely a god/ Has crushed me beneath the hugest weight of heaven,/ And driven me headlong a barbaric way/ To trample out the thing I held most dear,” (Line 994-997). Recognizing his hubris, Creon understands his punishment for defying the gods.

]]> 2017-04-26 22:04:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168508917 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168509786 In the play, the majority of the characters are seen struggling with pride, but each individual naturally has their own pride. The life advocated by Sophocles does involve pride, but Sophocles seems to advocate more of a life dealing with trust because without trust, instability would result as seen in the tragedy. At the start, if Antigone trusted Ismene’s words and acknowledged that Ismene could be right, what is left of their family would not have been so detached, “Go away, Ismene: I shall be hating you soon, and the dead will too, For your words are hateful. Leave me my foolish plan,” (lines 77-79). This doubt between the sisters causes more instability when Antigone breaks the law because this results in conflict for Haemon, who loves Antigone but has to obey his father, Creon, “now he lies dead with the dead, and she is his  At last, his bride in the houses of the dead,” (lines 975-976). Based on Patricia M. Lines’s “Antigone’s Flaw,” Eurydice would have helped Antigone and Haemon, but due to the lack of trust and connection between the characters, this did not happen, which resulted in the tragic deaths. Sophocles wanted to emphasize on the life of trust because if the characters were more bonded, perhaps all of this would not have occurred.]]> 2017-04-26 22:16:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168509786 273804 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168513564 Sophocles seems the advocate the hubris that humans try to escape, but inevitably it catches up to us. This can be seen in the seemingly perfect Antigone, who throughout the story continue to this perfect character that we follow. Throughout the story, Antigone is seen as this courageous lady in a patriarchal society who stands up against this tyrannical king, Creon. Antigone is seen as this perfect character as she stands up against the political laws that Creon sets up, and stays loyal and follows with her duty to her family and brother and tries to bury her brother.  However, even the seemingly perfect character has hubris and flaws in her, in fact it is what led to her downfall. Antigone failed to see the others around her and refused to accept their help or support because she believed she was right. Had she had some form of doubt, she could had reached out to Haemon or Ismene and avoided her tragic death. In "Antigone", Antigone refuses to accept her sister's sacrifice with Antigone because she did not want to help at first. "No, Ismene. You have no right to say so. You would not help me, and I will not have you help me." (431-432)

]]> 2017-04-26 23:17:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168513564 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168518846 The kind of life that Sophocles seems to advocate in the play is morally correct and religious. In “Antigone,” Creon experiences many negative consequences for being a tyrant and defying the gods’ just authority. In lines 1034 through 1038, King Creon declares, “Lead me away. I have been rash and foolish. I have been rash and foolish. I have killed my son and my wife. I look for comfort; my comfort lies here dead. Whatever my hands have touched has come to nothing. Fate has brought all my pride to a thought of dust.” King Creon’s downfall connects to Sophocles’s belief in morality and religion because the unjust and the irreverent are the ones who experience the most pain at the end of the play. Sophocles believed citizens should live in a society that allows religion and great justice.

]]> 2017-04-27 00:26:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168518846 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168519147 The kind of life Sophocles seems to advocate in this play is having moral bases in your society and being aware of your surroundings. He portrays this because although we see Antigone as an almost flawless character she suffers of hubris and isolation. She doesn't listen or want to focus on anybody but herself that at the end when she commits suicide it was right before people where coming to save her, if she would have rethought at least once through the whole book things where going to be different.  " And hanged herself. Haimon lay beside hers, His arms about her waist, lamenting her, His love lost under ground, crying out That his father has stolen her away from him. (960-964)" By showing us her mistakes and the flaws of the society it teaches us how to be better people. ]]> 2017-04-27 00:30:07 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168519147 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168520523 The kind of life that Sophocles seem to advocate in the play is tyranny and consequences. Since Creon become the king, he has ordered the state to not bury Polyneices, because of his wrongdoings and if he caught someone doing it they will be stoned to death in front of the whole city. "Bury him? You have just said the new law forbids it." (32) We can see that Creon has the power to decide whether a person can be bury or not. Also throughout the tragedy of Antigone, we see that each characters has to face some types of consequences. For example, Polyneices and Eteocles died because their greed for powers. As for Creon, his consequences was losing his wife, son, and niece due to his stubbornness. Scene 4, Line 58. ]]> 2017-04-27 00:43:14 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168520523 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168520778 Sophocles advocates a life of understanding and deliberation. In the play Antigone, tragic events begin to occur to characters like Creon and Antigone because they fail to communicate each other and understand each other. If either Antigone or Creon tried to deliberate with each other about their beliefs, then these disasters could have been avoided. However due to their own pride, they fail to do so causing them to go through tragedy. In Antigone, the text states, "  You will do well to listen to him, King, If what he says is sensible. And you, Haimon, Must listen to your father. ––Both speak well." (583-585). This text states that if people listen to each other and communicate, then it will only lead to success.]]> 2017-04-27 00:45:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168520778 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168521964 In the play, Sophocles seems to advocate a kind of life of consequences. Antigone has to face a consequence of burying her brother. She knows that it's against the laws but she still did it, in the end Creon ordered people to put her in a cave and let her stay there until she dies. Because of that order, Creon lost his family, both of his son and wife suicide.  Haimon died because he can't live without his bride, Eurydice died because she can't live without his son. This is the consequence that Creon gets for putting Antigone in the cave.  "I killed you, my son, without intending to, and you, as well, my wife. How useless I am now. I don’t know where to look or find support. Everything I touch goes wrong, and on my head
fate climbs up with its overwhelming load" (Line 1485 - 1490)]]> 2017-04-27 00:54:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168521964 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168522436 Sophocles seems to advocate a life of understanding. In Antigone, the characters fail to understand each other, resulting in tragic events that make up the tragedy of the story. The problems in the story could have been solved by taking the time to talk things out, to deliberate with each other the problems they had and the possible solutions. " You will do well to listen to him, King, If what he says is sensible. And you, Haimon, Must listen to your father. " (Lines 583-585) This line from Antigone represents one of the actions that may have prevented the death of a few characters, and shows how understanding of each other may have helped.]]> 2017-04-27 00:59:41 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168522436 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524153 2017-04-27 01:18:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524153 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524432 Sophocles advocates a life that involves deliberation over Hubris. According to “Antigone’s Flaw” we understand the play better allowing us to seek Sophocles’ main point which I think is living a deliberate lifestyle. In the article, Patricia M Lines  says that “Sophocles create works with balance tension” which in Antigone is hubris vs deliberation (excessive pride vs. compromise). Sophocles showed that he supported the deliberate lifestyle through Antigone and Creon. Antigone died in the end because she was flawed by self-certainty. And King Creon still lived because he sought the truth in his hubris and decided to listen to others.

]]> 2017-04-27 01:21:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524432 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524863 In the Antigone play, Sophocles seems to advocate a life in which human follows laws set by Gods, rather than men. There was no balance between these two justices. It was simply Gods are always right and if anyone disobeys, punishments are immediate and devastating. Today, the action of Creon's of not burying Polyneices would be considered right because it was him "whose one idea was to spill the blood
of his blood and sell his own people into slavery" (166-68). But since it was against God's will of properly burying all the dead, enemies or not, Creon was punished with the grief of his whole family's death. Regardless that he realized his mistakes and was trying to fix things, it was already too late. The story is not concerned about a man's pride that leads to his downfall, but rather a man's punishment if he defies Gods' laws. Even Creon himself says "The laws of the gods are mighty, and a man must serve them
To the last day of his life!" (879-880). ]]> 2017-04-27 01:26:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168524863 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168525897 In the play "Antigone" Sophocles seem to implement a life style where people both follow law and gods law. But in the play he seems to implement Gods law as more superior since he shows that through the protagonist Antigone who is supposed to the righteous person in the story. (66)  "You may do as you like Since apparently the laws of the god mean nothing to you. " in this line Antigone shows that she cares about the laws of god and since most artist will represent what they believe through the protagonist it is very likely that he supports the law of gods a lot more than human law because in the play he seems to show that mankind law over god laws are a coward act. ]]> 2017-04-27 01:35:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168525897 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168527579 The kind of life that Sophocles appears to advocate is that wrongdoings such as pride can and will lead to downfalls (consequences). In Antigone, the character Creon had hubris - he carried pride in his position as king, and ordered for Polyneices to not be buried. Yet when Creon found out that his niece Antigone broke his rule, he was shocked and displeased that someone had the audacity to go against his power. Furthermore, due to his pride, he still did not relent after learning of Antigone’s reasons. Creon only began to sway after speaking with Teiresias. The Choragos mentioned to Creon that Teiresias was never wrong: “‘The old man has gone, King, but his words Remain to plague us. I am old, too, But I cannot remember that he was ever false.’”(860-862) To this, Creon responded with: “‘That is true…It troubles me. Oh it is hard to give in! but it is worse To risk everything for stubborn pride.’” (863-865) Creon swayed and attempted to fix his errors. However, he faced his downfall: due to his excessive pride, it led to the deaths of his niece, wife, and son. In other words, Sophocles advocates, regarding life, that a person’s flaws and wrongdoings will have effects on their lives. ]]> 2017-04-27 01:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168527579 ngocdieply https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168528374 Sophocles seems to advocate a lifestyle of humbleness and complete devotion to the gods. In Antigone, the main conflict revolved around the burial of Antigone's brother and hubris. Polyneices did not receive a proper burial and this angered the gods. We see, in the beginning, Antigone has the will of the gods and the people behind her while Creon starts having a downfall. He recognizes this at the end when he buries Polyneices and relents his need for power. In line 1034, he says, "Lead me away. I have been rash and foolish." However, Antigone is also guilty of hubris because she thought she was the sole source of justice. She was also punished by given suicide in the story. Her life only came to a tragic end because she pushed away all those close to her. In the final lines of the play, the chorus states, "There is no happiness where there is no wisdom; No wisdom but in submission to the gods. Big words are always punished, And proud men in old age learn to be wise." Sophocles chose to end the play in this way stating the importance of satisfying the God's morals in every way.]]> 2017-04-27 01:59:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168528374 303719 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168528804 Sophocles seems to advocate the kind of life based on decisions, but even then fate will take over. Two characters come into mind that represents this life, besides Ismene who changed her mind but Antigone continued to disowns her anyway. Antigone was reckless through the whole play. She was self-certain and didn’t listen to anyone but herself because of her “respect for the gods”. This led to her death at the end of the play. Antigone’s Flaw by Patricia M. Lines backs this up by stating that , “Political deliberation requires listening and persuading, engaging and being engaged. Success depends, above all, on compromise...The greatest obstacle to this kind of deliberation is hubris.” Antigone possessed hubris because of her self-certainty and she “might have avoided her tragic fate had she paid attention to and entered into discussion with others. To remain tragic, her story depended on a weak and inadequate recognition of her own failing.”  In addition, “It required an Antigone who could anticipate the gradual acceptance of her position by those around her. Her self-certainty brought her down.”Her decision to listen to only herself led to her doom. For Creon, unlike Antigone, Creon listened to the Choragos, Chorus, and Teiresias and ultimately changed his decisions and was going to bury Polyneices and go get Antigone with his own hands, and yet even though he changed, it was too late, his earlier decisions caused his sad fate to happen at the end of the play where he loses all of his loved ones including his wife and Haemon. Decisions makes up the life in this play, unlike in Oedipus Rex where life couldn’t be based on decisions, the Antigone’s Flaw article states that “The tragedy of Oedipus seems unavoidable.”]]> 2017-04-27 02:03:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168528804 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168529744 Sophocles seems to advocate a life in which a human lives without greed or hubris. Through the Oedipus Trilogy, we repeatedly saw the characters suffer because of either their greed or their hubris, in some cases both. From the beginning of the trilogy when "The former Theban king, Laius, and his queen, Jocasta, also hoping to avoid the Delphic prophecy" (Antigone's Flaw) it showed the greed that they, the king and queen, had in avoiding their fate to the extent of offering their child to the dead. Again, when Oedipus set out back to Thebes, his hubris begins and therefore leads to more tragic event because his, "Hubris blinds him." (Antigone's Flaw) And so when he finds out his wrong doings, "When at last he sees the truth, he wishes only to be blind again." (Antigone's Flaw) Showing that if only Oedipus had been humble and less greedy to reclaim his throne in Thebes, this could have been avoided. And finally, this shows in Antigone through Creon and Antigone because Creon has the greed to keep his position to himself and his hubris in thinking he is always right causes him to suffer, " There is no happiness where there is no wisdom; No wisdom but in submission to the gods. Big words are always punished, And proud men in old age learn to be wise." (Antigone, Lines 1039-1042) And for Antigone, her hubris in thinking she shouldn't be punished for doing something right and her own self pride without letting anyone else in also causes her to suffer. ]]> 2017-04-27 02:10:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168529744 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168530894 In the tragedy of Antigone, the writer Sophacles seem to advocate a life of justice and humbleness. In the tragedy, Sophacles give many examples on how self-certainty and hubris is frowned upon and emphasizes the importance of punishment from the Gods. Basically, Sophacles would advocate a life of humbleness and not getting in anyone's business or bragging because nothing good comes out of it. To prevent others from doing it, Sophacles believe in justice and those who portray these traits should be punished. In lines 583 to 586, Choragos states " You will do well to listen to him, King, If what he says is sensible. And you, Haimon, Must listen to your father. ––Both speak well." He is giving advice to Haimon about being humble or he will be punished in the end. ]]> 2017-04-27 02:20:11 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168530894 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168533351 Sophocles seems to advocate Antigone's loyalty, confidence, stubbornness, and dedication to what she feels is right which leads to her noble death. Antigone was dedicated to burying Polynecies even after she knew that it would lead to her death. When she was caught she did not deny it or pretend she didn't do it; she confessed and was ready to give up her life for the cause. She was loyal to her brother even after his death. She carried out his burial as a sister should no matter what the consequences were. Her stubbornness let her stick to what she believed and allowed her not to bend to other's will. Her confidence encouraged her to keep going in what she believed was right to her brother and the gods. With all these traits, antigone was allowed to carry out her tasks until the end as anyone with dedication, loyalty, and confidence can reach their goal.]]> 2017-04-27 02:44:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168533351 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534015 Sophocles clearly shows the negativity of the concept of hubris that was so frowned upon during his time. He shows how Antigone let it get the best of her and turned her into initially who we thought was the protagonist of our story, to a flawed and self- centered human being. In line 53 she pushed her sister off even after she agrees to help her bury the body, and ends up regretting her foolish actions of being so "prideful" and "stubborn" in the end of the story because she could have stopped a lot of conflict had she listened to ANYONE. "I should not want you, even if you asked to come"]]> 2017-04-27 02:51:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534015 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534151 In Antigone, Sophocles advocates a life of social consideration and understanding. From the beginning of the play, we see that many characters suffer from individuality, excessive pride, and arrogance. Both Antigone and Creon fall victim to these traits, however, the difference lies in Antigone as she is deemed "heroic" for her motivation to portray the ideals of the gods. Despite her drive and good intentions, it is apparent that she suffers just like Creon as they both fail to acknowledge the lives of others around them. Quoted from Antigone's flaw, "If she had only some portion of self-doubt, she may have waited just a few moments before her suicide. In that event, Haemon would have rescued her. Had she waited a few moments more, Creon would have done so. A happy ending required her to consider the position of others, to adjust to their views, and to hold her individual judgment of justice with some humility. It required an Antigone who could anticipate the gradual acceptance of her position by those around her. Her self-certainty brought her down." From the text, if Antigone had just considered to live her life out instead of suiciding and preserving her "pride" then she could have survived and changed the social structure of the society after that. From this, it is reasonable to conclude that Sophocles promoted a life based on the consideration of others.

]]> 2017-04-27 02:53:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534151 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534347 Sophocles advocates a life that should not be filled with excessive pride, but rather a devotion and dedication to the gods. One example of hubris that Sophocles portrayed in Antigone was through the character of Creon, who was prideful in his laws against the burial of Polyneices. After punishing Antigone and continuing to be stubborn about his laws, his hubris caused him to be left with nothing, for his son Haimon and his wife both ended up committing suicide. At the end, he realizes his mistakes and states, "No wisdom but in submission to the gods." (Line 1040) His last few lines show that the gods will punish you for the great sin of hubris. ]]> 2017-04-27 02:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534347 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534467 Sophocles appears to be advocate in life, because it had some measure of restraint and balance. Antigone and Creon don't act upon a situation between their "argument" and they go extremely upon their thoughts. Antigone, care about her thoughts upon family and belief ( God). Which serves first thing, but Sophocles seems to advocate upon Antigone's confidence,loyalty,stubbornness, and dedication on what she feel is right that leads on her decision to her noble death since she only vows on burying Polyneices no matter what the consequences were, as the text had shown, "Tell everyone Think they'll hate you when it all comes out If they learn that you knew about it all the time!"(line 69-71) which shows her stubbornness that she wouldn't care, butt o show her dedication for her brother. but however Creon preoccupied within state affairs. Which he only focuses on royalty, and "king" position, and what may serves right for their city or country.]]> 2017-04-27 02:56:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168534467 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168535815 Sophocles advocates that one should do good deeds, and if not, they have to suffer the penalties, but also to learn and take such penalties. By not listening to the voices of his people, Creon began to fall. He prided himself too much, and acted on that pride. The thought of someone disobeying him angered him due to his pride. In lines 863-856, Creon is lamenting over his mistakes. Although yes, Creon's whole family had died, Creon still tried to fix his wrongdoings. Even though he had failed, the attempt was there.]]> 2017-04-27 03:12:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168535815 3063331 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536002 In Greek tragedies, characters all have one fatal flaw. More often than not, it is hubris, more commonly known as excessive pride. Sophocles advocates for a life that is free from this damaging trait. At the end of Antigone, Creon realizes that he has “been rash and foolish. I have killed my son and wife… (1034-1035).” If he has seen the error in his judgement sooner or when Teiresias first pointed it out to him, chances are his family would have lived much longer and more fulfilling lives. Sophocles realizes that human beings do not have as much control as the gods but implies that lives that the gods have given example of and favor so as to prevent any ill from striking them are much more worthwhile. He believes that humans should follow a life that is led by and obedient to the gods rather than other humans.]]> 2017-04-27 03:14:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536002 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536024 The life that Sophocles seem to advocate in the play is the consequences you'll get from your sins. In Antigone, Sophocles advocates how the moves you make could have significant outcomes. Throughout this play, Sophocles has a significant emphasis on King Creon and his over pridefulness. One of Creon's mistakes was to make the people of Thebes believe that Eteocles was honorable while the other brother, Polyneices was not. Antigone believed that's unfair and went against Creon's decree, ended up getting caught and later on punished. A blind prophet named Teiresias notified Creon that the gods do not agree with the deeds that he is doing. (Line 847) The gods believe everybody should have a proper burial, and Creon did not want to honor Polyneices was a major mistake leading to a consequence. ]]> 2017-04-27 03:14:23 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536024 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536126 Sophocles advocates a life of temperance in his plays. Inside of Antigone, the two main characters that lack temperance are Antigone and Creon. With Antigone, her temperance is in her arrogance. Since she is so involved in trying to honor her brother, she doesn't see everything that's going on around her. That includes her relationship with her sister. Whenever Ismene refuses to help Antigone in burying her brother, Antigone states, "Go away, Ismene: I shall be hating you soon..." (77-78) This shows her wanting to bury him, but also her obliviousness to her sister. Creon is similar to Antigone. He doesn't have temperance in his pride. Although Sophocles fully develops the characters and shows their motives being fulfilled, he eventually gives them the fate they deserve because of their lack of temperance.]]> 2017-04-27 03:15:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536126 279126 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536204 Sophocles advocates that your decisions in life will determine your future. Whether it be good or bad, what you choose is what you will get, such as Antigone going against Creon and burying Polyneices though it was against the law which resulted in her misery. This can be further proven when Antigone is caught and shown before Creon and not defying her crimes which further angers the King. (Sophocles 352) "I do. I deny nothing." and (Sophocles 419-420) " Go join them, then; if you must have your love, Find it in hell!" This shows due to Antigone's attitude and decisions this only gave her the short end of the stick which applies for modern day as well. An affect will always result in an effect.]]> 2017-04-27 03:16:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536204 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536585 Sophocles seems to advocate the life of choosing your beliefs, and what you choose to prioritize. Antigone believes in her loyalty to her brother and the law of god, while Ismene chooses her loyalty to Creon and the law of man. Antigone says, “But I will bury him; and if I must die, I say that this crime is holy” (Sophocles 55-56), to defend traditional law, and her personal family morals. Ismene says “I have no strength To break laws that were made for the public good.” (Sophocles 65-66), defending the civil law of man. The two choose opposing sides of an argument, leading to the denouncing of sisterhood and eventually Antigone’s downfall, showing us viewers/readers that our beliefs make a huge impact on where we will stand in the future.]]> 2017-04-27 03:22:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168536585 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537676 The life Sophocles seems to advocate in the play is one that shouldn't portray any hints of hubris whatsoever. Those who live a life with hubris would eventually pay the price for doing so. Instead, Sophocles would rather advocate a life that was lived humble, noble, and portrayed dedication towards the gods. An example of hubris was portrayed through Creon; he was certain that his law against the burial of Polyneices was right and needed for the polis. Because of his hubris, he was blinded to reality and was eventually left empty handed; his son and wife commit suicide and he caused Antigone to commit suicide. At the end of the play, the Choragos states "There is no happiness where there is no wisdom; No wisdom but in submission to the gods. Big words are always punished, And proud men in old age learn to be wise." (Lines 1039-1042). Through this piece of text, it is implied that Creon was punished for his "big words" through his laws and later realized his flaw in which would reflect by the text stating "proud men in old age learn to be wise."]]> 2017-04-27 03:34:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537676 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537811 Sophocles advocates a life that follows the rules of the gods. Antigone proves this when she chooses to bury her brother because the gods expected everyone to receive a proper burial. Although Creon ordered everyone to leave Polynices' body alone, Antigone felt it is her duty to the gods to bury her brother. In "Antigone's Flaw" Patricia M. Lines states, " The ancient tales in the Iliad, the bible to the Greeks, warn of the anger of the gods upon a failure to honor the dead. Besides, the restless shades of the unburied could cause trouble." This proves that the lifestyle Sophocles sets up in the play was to obey the gods at all time and failure to do so would result in punishment. ]]> 2017-04-27 03:35:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537811 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537893 Sophocles appears to advocate an existence of comprehension. In the play Antigone, the people neglect to see each other, bringing about heinous occasions that makes up the evil/bad side of the play. The issues in the play could’ve been unraveled by setting aside the opportunity to debate and figure things out, to think with one another of the issues they carried and the conceivable arrangements. “You will try your best to listen to him, King, If he declares objectives that are sensible. And you, Haimon, must listen to your father.” This dialogue proves to demonstrate that because of why the character mentioned many conflicts were prevented.]]> 2017-04-27 03:36:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168537893 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539030 Sophocles promotes a modest life: one structured with the law of the gods but in line with the laws of the land. Take Ismene for example. She's burdened with the unfortunate nature of her family and their deaths and takes this into consideration when listening to Antigone's request for help in illegally burying their brother Polyneices. "Think how much more terrible than these our own death would be if we should go against Creon." - Ismene 44 However, Ismene is one of the few that remain alive to the end of the play because, though many argue that she's weak-willed, she shows careful consideration in her decision, eventually siding with her sister in the end. As nature of her family's curse, she is the last one alive but given the opportunity to live for her absence of hubris. "but it is worse to risk everything for stubborn pride." - Creon 86]]> 2017-04-27 03:51:07 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539030 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539085 Sophocles seems to advocate of a life of hubris and the consequences that follows. The protagonist Antigone has flaws that are not noticeable because of her strong devotion to her family and gods will. This strong emotion soon lead to her failure of being able to realize the amount of support she has. For instance, Antigone refuses Ismene who wished to share a death with her. She says, “No more, Ismene. You are alive, but I belong to Death,” (lines 447, 448) thus cutting off her connection with her sister. Had Antigone not isolated herself away from Ismene, her sister would have stood with her by her side and would have realized she isn't alone.]]> 2017-04-27 03:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539085 371655 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539252 Seeing that Sophocles decided to have the gods support Antigone's cause in the main conflict, he did advocate a life of honor and nobility, as opposed to ignorance and inconsideration. Though the doom of Antigone is portrayed to be caused by her hubris, Creon's misdeed was at the root of it all, ruining everyone at the end of the play.  This could mean that Sophocles' also preferred for people to possess sufficient wisdom, not the rash behavior that Antigone displayed. Only with all of these attributes can a person overcome a tragedy caused by a powerful, yet blind king.]]> 2017-04-27 03:53:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168539252 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540360 Sophocles advocates that he has an atoned kind of life because there is always consequences where someone feels guilty of doing something that they should not be doing like when Creon didn't successfully kill his offspring when it was asked.]]> 2017-04-27 04:07:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540360 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540424 Sophocles advocates a life were the laws by the gods are more superior than man made laws. In the play the protagonists share the same flaws which have to do with Hubris. Antigone's whole purpose revolves around the need for her to bury her brother because she believes that is the right thing to do, however when Ismene mentions to her that she is willing to keep Antigone's secret safe, Antigone s angered and wants everyone to know of this act, to be known as a hero. This is where it is evident that she is full of pride and one may even claim his was the rode to her demise. Creon had been the one who had created the law that Polyneices was no to be buried, and although many repeatedly warned him , that if he were to not follow the laws of the gods which were for the dead to have a proper burial he would be faced with punishments from the gods, however Creon too full of pride does not listen and continues with this act and end up losing he one's he loves the most all for the sake of his ignorance and pride.]]> 2017-04-27 04:08:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540424 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540740 Sophocles seems to advocate a humble lifestyle of religious morals, noting the downfalls of having hubris. In Antigone, Sophocles uses Antigone to show the downfalls of hubris. After being sided by the gods for he actions, she isolates herself and is prideful for what she has done. By doing so, she suffers the downfalls of hubris and eventually accepts her death "You are alive, but I belong to Death." (447) Antigone commits suicide before she is able to be saved. ]]> 2017-04-27 04:12:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540740 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540882 Sophocles was advocating that there should not be any hubris within the community that you live in. In "Antigone's Flaw", many examples was set within Sophocles play, Oedipus Rex, where Oedipus hubris started within the family where Oedipus' parents attempted to kill off their son due to the prophecy of Oedipus killing off his father, King Laius. Due to Oedipus blindness to the truth, he accidentally killed his father on the way to save Thebes. After Oedipus saved Thebes from the Sphinx, his hubris took over and he ended up marrying his mother, which shows two sins that you could not have within the Greek standard. In the end, he blinded himself to atoned for his sin of being blinded by hubris. "Hubris blinds him. When at last he sees the truth, he wishes only to be blind again."]]> 2017-04-27 04:14:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540882 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540986 Sophocles advocates a life of anti-hubris also known as a humble life. It is shown that excessive pride and show of power will result in detriment. The lifestyle promoted is to please the gods by following their will. "It was not God’s proclamation." (Line 357) Antigone defies the law of the state and her king Creon in order to do what she believes is right through the eyes of the gods. She does not do so through her pride nor her proof of strength but her power really comes from the mindset she had of what's right to her and the gods. "Your edict, King, was strong, But all your strength is weakness itself against The immortal unrecorded laws of God." (Line 359-361) Creon is the antagonist which had represented hubris that led to his loss of what he cared about. ]]> 2017-04-27 04:15:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168540986 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542064 The kind of life that Sophocles seems to advocate in this play is one of a nature of yielding and one of a nature of abiding to the gods. First and foremost, Sophocles makes it clear through the belief system of Antigone, that the superior law in the Theban universe is “the immortal unrecorded laws of God” (Lines 360-361). He further emphasizes this point by showing that any attempt to meddle or boast to the gods, whether it be Denae’s boasting of her multiple children or Oedipus’s hubris in trying to alter his fate is met with an ultimate downfall- and ultimate punishment. This can also be shown through the consequences of Creon’s hubris of trying to meddle in the handlings of the deceased. Sophocles believes that the message of a complete loyalty and obedience to the rule of the gods is stressed to such an extent that the play ends with the resounding statement: “There is no happiness where there is no wisdom; no wisdom but in submission to the gods” (Lines 1039-1042) Furthermore, Antigone’s complete dedication to the law of the gods despite its opposing nature with the rule of the state gives even more emphasis on the importance of abiding to the gods. Moreover, Sophocles also stresses a lifestyle of flexibility - of a willingness to listen to others. In fact, the play centers around the one character flaw of Antigone: her hubris of her self-certainty. She is unwilling to consider a perspective that is broader than her owns and is unwilling to even bend to the wishes of her sister or even consult her lover Haemon. As a result of this strict abidance to her own self-will, it ultimately brings upon her demise - her own death. If Antigone had simply been willing to open up and yield to the wishes of others, then the play and its tragic events would not have unfolded as tragic as it had.  In fact  the Choragos says it best: “The inflexible heart breaks first, the toughest iron cracks first, and the wildest horses bend their necks at the pull of the smallest curb” (Line 378-379)]]> 2017-04-27 04:27:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542064 vowindy69 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542192 Sophocles advocates the human life as in where those that are caring and respects everyone, will receive the same in return but then if you’re ignorant and doesn’t care about anyone then it demonstrates that you have a selfish personality and that you’ll get punished in the future. In Antigone, both the characters Creon and Antigone, fall under the category of selfish due to their selfless acts and not understand those around them. Everyone didn’t see it in Antigone was because she’s so passionate about her brother’s burial which affected us in a sentimental way. She’s willing to sacrifice her life and die with honor knowing that she did a good deed while Creon is going to punish whoever was the one that committed the crime. He didn’t understand nor wanted to comprehend the choices that Antigone made, and expected her to be punished by putting her in this vault away from the city. It made it seem like Creon is the only one at fault, but then Antigone is also wrong too. Creon is too obnoxious when he found out that someone went against his law, “And death it is; yet money talks, and the wisest, have someone's been known to count a few coins too many.” (Lines 186-187) Without thinking who this person is, yet he’s already speaking about death which illustrates us how his personality is like. Those that are egoistic, will only care for themselves and not think about the other perspective without even explanation. Sophocles is trying to indicate that there will be selfish people in this world, but they’ll eventually get punished. ]]> 2017-04-27 04:29:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542192 tjakinsonu3 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542800 The kind of life that Sophocles appears to advocate is to Gain wisdom through suffering.  In Antigone, the character Creon was prideful - which caused polinysis not be burried. Yet when Creon found out that his niece Antigone broke his rule, he was shocked that someone could disobey the law. But because of his pride, he still did not change his mind after learning of Antigone’s reasons. Creon only began to sway after speaking with Teiresias. The Choragos mentioned to Creon that Teiresias was never wrong: “‘The old man has gone, King, but his words Remain to plague us. I am old, too, But I cannot remember that he was ever false.’”(860-862) Creon carried up and attempted to fix his errors. However, this would lead to his downfall: it led to the deaths of his niece, wife, and son. ]]> 2017-04-27 04:35:34 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168542800 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168543095 Sophocles seems to be advocating a life of loyalty and determination in this play. Antigone continuously asks Ismene for her help in burying their brother even after she has refused multiple times. "We cannot fight with men, Antigone! The law is strong, we must give in to the law " (47-48) Ismene even tries to convince Antigone that the rules of the land are much more important than pleasing yourself and the gods. Even then, Antigone shows loyalty to her family, no matter the past, and proceeds with burying her brother and taking the blame for all of it in the end. Antigone's immense amount of loyalty and determination throughout the play is very evident and repetitious which led me to conclude that is also the life Sophocles is advocating. ]]> 2017-04-27 04:38:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168543095 2747091 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168543277 Sophocles seem to advocate a life where it is a utopian society, free of hubris and sins, where everyone does good deeds and follows the rules and laws made by the Gods. He obviously values highly of the Gods so when people like Creon have so much pride (hubris) they would had been punished by the Gods. Sophocles believes that the Gods made rules for us to follow for a reason so if we just follow them there would be no need for punishments. Even though not allowing people to bury Polyneices was sort of the right thing to do, since it was against the God’s rules , it was actually a sin, which caused his downfall. “The laws of God are mighty, and man must serve them.”]]> 2017-04-27 04:41:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168543277 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168548361 In Antigone, Sophocles advocates for a life that is against the practice of hubris and the vales of restraint or control. Antigone and Creon are the opposite of the values and get punished. Antigone had Hubris because she refused to listen to others because she had lost the sense of control due to the feeling of her family duty of burying her brother. Creon's Hubris is more blatant because he wont allow polynieces be buried although it is the will of the gods.]]> 2017-04-27 05:52:47 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168548361 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168601058 The kind of life that Sophocles seems to advocate is a life where you follow the rules and know your place in society. In his works he shows how the gods punish the people that disrespect them or go against their rules. In Antigone he shows this in the form of hubris in which someone in overly confident and cocky. Whenever someone has hubris in a tragedy it is what leads to their downfall. This means Sophocles is showing you shouldn't live your life breaking the rules and morals of society.]]> 2017-04-27 11:52:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168601058 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168620797 Sophocles seems to be advocating a life that everyone should listen to the will of the Gods, whether it is good or bad. When Antigone heard that her brother, Polyneices, was not going to be buried. She then buried her brother and when confronted by Creon, she argued that it was the will of the Gods and her family. In lines 356 - 374, "I dared. It was not God’s proclamation. That final Justice That rules the world below makes no such laws. Your edict, King, was strong, But all your strength is weakness itself against. The immortal unrecorded laws of God. They are not merely now: they were, and shall be, Operative for ever, beyond man utterly. I knew I must die, even without your decree: I am only mortal. And if I must die. Now, before it is my time to die, Surely this is no hardship: can anyone Living, as I live, with evil all about me, Think Death less than a friend? This death of mine Is of no importance; but if I had left my brother. Lying in death unburied, I should have suffered. Now I do not. You smile at me. Ah Creon, Think me a fool, if you like; but it may well be That a fool convicts me of folly."]]> 2017-04-27 13:16:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168620797 273653 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168624082 The lifestyle that Sophocles advocates in his work "Antigone" is a commonplace one during his era, and that is one of obedience to the gods. Through his use of the titular character's struggle between doing the right thing religiously/morally and breaking the law but abiding by the rules of their religion, she decides that “the immortal unrecorded laws of God” (lines 360 - 361) trumps all. Additionally, he then goes onto state that “there is no happiness where there is no wisdom; no wisdom but in submission to the gods” (lines 1039 - 1042) which means that it not been for the gods, all would be wrong with the world. If you did not accept the wisdom of the selected deities of this culture then you would be left in the dark, insubordinate, and uncivilized.]]> 2017-04-27 13:25:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168624082 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168625785 Sophocles supports a life of submission to the gods and not going against them, as well as refraining from excessive pride. This is seen as Creon is punished his pride and disobeying the laws of the gods. While Antigone is favored for her beliefs, even she is punished in the end for her pride and refusal to listen to anyone. We can also see this from the end of the play where Choragos states: There is no happiness where there is no wisdom; No wisdom but in submission to the gods. Big words are always punished, And proud men in old age learn to be wise..]]> 2017-04-27 13:30:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168625785 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168626194 Sophocles advocates human lives without hatred and consequences of those who did wrong. In Antigone, she did what she believed was right for her brother, Polyneices, who wasn't given a proper funeral like her other brother, Eteocles. While King Creon only look at his persecutive where he doesn't think about why Antigone did that based the fact she knows she's was going to be punished. Since Creon was only thinking about his prided and how he was viewed in the people's eye and not focusing on the sin he created. Creon end up alone, where the gods were angered about his actions and he didn't have any family left after everything he did to proved that he was the king and was right. Antigone flaws' was self-righteousness, she put the gods' law before the man's laws. Where some would think that will give her the happy-ending because she did the wise and noble thing but was overshadowed by how she end up alone and self-determined. "It was not God's proclamation. That final Justice that rules the world below makes no such laws. Your, edict, King, was strong, but all your strength is weakness itself against the immortal unrecorded laws of God." (357-361)]]> 2017-04-27 13:32:00 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168626194 285410 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168659752 In the play, Sophocles seems to advocate for a life that consist of only morally and human rights. An example might be Antigone going to help her brother, ignoring all laws and only focusing on what is morally right. Keeping a corpse unburied is a sin but also breaking a law is a sin. She soon picked burying her brother since it was morally right. As Antigone says" I am not afraid of danger... death without honor"(80-81). This shows that there is no consequence for death if it is correct.]]> 2017-04-27 15:04:41 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/168659752 https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/169701513 The kind of life that Sophocles advocates in "Antigone" is one where the people abide by the laws of the gods. Sophocles made in eminent that being too prideful is a sin and that all the power belong to the gods which supersedes the power of even the kings, the kings answer to the gods. It all started with King Laius and his wife tried to change their fate which then backfired on them where he eventually got killed by his son and his son married his wife which is his mother. This generational curse went on to his kids, Antigone's hubris of being too stubborn and not being forgiving. Even their uncle Creon of trying to mess with the handling of the the dead. Especially when not burying a body the right way means that they don't have peace and their soul is not free. He later comes to his senses but its already too late because his only niece was already dead due to his decrees.]]> 2017-05-03 15:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenntrammell23/dqfqhcw3b9kf/wish/169701513