HerbVar data summary 2 (editable) by Will Wetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn en-us 2021-08-03 15:14:18 UTC 2021-08-03 16:48:11 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f41b.png Quantile regression williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667930334 For some relationships, it could be that the the predictor is related to the extremes of the response. Should use quantile regression to get at those relationships. E.g., latitude may mostly influence herbivory or var(herbivory) by setting a limit on what's possible]]> 2021-08-03 15:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667930334 Herbs vs/ trees williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667930890 Herbs vs/ trees: there may be differences between annuals and perennials, or between evergreen and deciduous perennials.]]> 2021-08-03 15:18:10 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667930890 Results suggest var is very important williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667932827 Because range in mean herbivory is not much different across whole globe. But variation in Gini is huge! Could accompany the biome scatterplot with cartoons illustrating what those values mean]]> 2021-08-03 15:20:04 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667932827 Does the variability in herbivory reflect genetic variability in the plants (such as variability in defense mechanisms)? if yes, then we would expect less variability in agricultural plants than in wild ones, less in rare/endemic plants (low genetic variability) than in widespread ones? https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667939208 2021-08-03 15:26:41 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667939208 What about variability in variability within-plant variability? williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667941696 do plants within a population get similar or different levels of leaf to leaf variability?]]> 2021-08-03 15:29:51 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667941696 The first result and biggest result williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667942782 should be just that herbivory is really variable! In all systems]]> 2021-08-03 15:31:13 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667942782 How do we communicate how variable herbivory is williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667943148 illustrate, compare with economics, communicate what this means]]> 2021-08-03 15:31:42 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667943148 In addition to big phylogeny williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667944289 add phylogenies for a few very well represented families]]> 2021-08-03 15:32:50 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667944289 use plant family size as a predictor williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667944636 related to specialization]]> 2021-08-03 15:33:19 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667944636 Look at spatial autocorrelation williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667946435 among sites. Are there mini regions? Are there clusters? What is the spatial scale of variability in herbivory?]]> 2021-08-03 15:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667946435 Surprising result how strongly correlated var is within and among plants williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667950287 this might be simplifying]]> 2021-08-03 15:40:12 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667950287 Correct for williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667950635 area of each biome]]> 2021-08-03 15:40:21 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667950635 compare variability williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667951904 among sites within biome to variability among plants within sites. use _something_ at a higher spatial scale to anchor understanding. e.g., how different are sites in arctic biome]]> 2021-08-03 15:41:56 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667951904 temporal variability williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667953481 have an appendix showing that our results aren't hugely sensitive to when sites were sampled. Could have ordinal day as a predictor. ]]> 2021-08-03 15:43:43 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667953481 indicate sample size williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667956295 in figs]]> 2021-08-03 15:46:08 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667956295 mean vs median williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667957385 median might be better than mean for a lot of these figures and analyses]]> 2021-08-03 15:47:18 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667957385 why did people choose the species/sites they did williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667958685 For a given site how representative were the specific species people sampled. At the global scale we have good representation. But that might break down at the site scale. If we zoom in, this could be an issue]]> 2021-08-03 15:48:57 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667958685 Gini by plant size pghahn0 https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667965640 Interesting result that Gini decreases with plant size, could be a headline result for 1st manuscript to show what is characteristic of herbivory]]> 2021-08-03 15:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667965640 Local plant cover williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667968063 resource concentration hypothesis. What does herbivore distribution look like in relation to focal plant cover!?]]> 2021-08-03 16:00:29 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667968063 could interpret latitude result williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667971644 in terms of variation in herbivore community. variation in herbivore density and diversity and specialization]]> 2021-08-03 16:04:50 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667971644 native vs non-native williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667976016 break up the relationship between native/non-native and var(herbivory) by biome, latitude, etc.]]> 2021-08-03 16:09:52 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667976016 In short format journal williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667977314 could have fig 1 = overall summary, fig 2 = panel of figs related to macroscale, fig 3 = local scale ecological factors]]> 2021-08-03 16:11:08 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667977314 for first ms, show patterns williamwetzel https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667979950 propose hypotheses and set the field up to do lots of hypothesis driven work]]> 2021-08-03 16:14:07 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1667979950 Species richness plant families pghahn0 https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1668009560 Does species richness of the plant family correlation with variation in herbivory? For insects, richness of family correlates with diet breadth. Maybe something to look at down the line.]]> 2021-08-03 16:48:11 UTC https://padlet.com/williamwetzel/dpzkkw7pkhiw1abn/wish/1668009560