7023A: Remake of Can you identify the data traps? by Helen Hailin Zhao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0 en-us 2025-09-15 02:36:36 UTC 2025-09-16 10:12:30 UTC hello@padlet.com hhzhao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584486842 During the war between US and Spain, the death rate of the US Navy was 9‰, and the death rate of New York City residents during the same period was 16‰, so being sailors at US Navy is very safe.

]]> 2025-09-15 02:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584486842 hhzhao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584486847 According to NHS data, the number of incident cases of major depressive disorder worldwide increased from 162 million in 1990 to 241 million in 2017, representing an increase of 49.29%. Humans are getting worse in mental health.

]]> 2025-09-15 02:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584486847 hhzhao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584608259 2025-09-15 03:43:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584608259 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584946952 The percentages are not given here.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:20:19 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584946952 lack of percentage https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948259 2025-09-15 07:21:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948259 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948329 The total number of people who took the test.Also a measurement error，we dont know the standard of the disorder among this years.

Junxuan Guo UID 3036533974

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948329 Sheng Jialian https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948712 The number of the whole population also increased.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948712 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948725 Many depressive people might didn’t receive diagnosis in the past

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:33 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948725 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948744 The total population also increased during this period

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:33 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948744 YAO Ye 13771970310y https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948846 The number of population worldwide have also changed from 1990 to 2017.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948846 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948862 the reason may be the detactive theology of mental disease has been improved

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948862 freyawong https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948957 lack of percentage

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584948957 sydney0716 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949021 The total number is also growing. Percentage missing

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:44 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949021 guxiaoxia040116 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949174 lack of change in population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949174 Ji Siqiu_3036533364 jisiqiu https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949258 The change in the total number of people was not taken into account.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:53 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949258 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949356 Ignoring population growth

]]> 2025-09-15 07:21:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949356 dk9dmqnvrt https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949608 linear mindset in a non-linear word.

The population of these two periods is not the same.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949608 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949710 something may happened in NYC at that time？

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949710 1243485088 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949841 lack of change in population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:19 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949841 DONG Tong 3036531316 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949930 The expression hides the percentage.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:23 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949930 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949960 the percentages are missing

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584949960 koujieyao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950003 The total of people taking the examination and the percentage is not given

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950003 3036530207 XU Tianao xxxta0819 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950038 lack the base number of people

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950038 3478236346 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950044 The total number of people has increased.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950044 3036568515 Feng Sijie 728550193 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950101 The total population may also increased

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950101 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950135 The population growth is missing. They should make it in ratio to the whole population instead of pure numbers.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950135 Li Jinhan ljh_knight https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950191 Population growth overtime

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:31 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950191 The definition of dipressive disorder and ways to detect them may have changed. Dai Ruirui https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950338 2025-09-15 07:22:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950338 Yimin Li 3036533716 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950339 No, while the age of the deceased is not specified, the death toll in wars tends to be younger.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950339 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950433 Didn’t provide the specific population, only the percentage cannot fully represent the number of deaths

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950433 3035828475 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950450 number of population also increase. it should indicate corresponding percentage

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950450 HAO BINGJIE 3036531110 a1376205727 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950457 The data only shows an increase in the number of incident cases but doesn't account for factors like population growth.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950457 1056855118 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950599 But at the same time, the whole population also increased a lot

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950599 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950621 Hide the percentage

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950621 The total population across the globe may change so that the percentage is anecessary xf2rkkqh4t https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950735 2025-09-15 07:22:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950735 HUANG Yunjia 3036531718 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950738 Measurement Errors. And also this data doesn’t show the percentage of depression

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950738 jiangyinuo0122 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950806 only percentage ,we don’t know the specific numbers.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:52 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950806 Wu Yixi 3036555879 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950882 The claim that "humans are getting worse in mental health" is not fully supported by this data alone, as it fails to consider population growth, improved diagnostics, and other factors.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950882 13539886033 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950900 the number of people is also increasing

]]> 2025-09-15 07:22:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584950900 v9mhs2wx4n https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951122 They didn't tell us the natural population changes

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951122 Lu Xiaoying 3036533194 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951125 The world population also increases

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951125 Data from just one city is not enough. sydney0716 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951261 2025-09-15 07:23:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951261 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951323 There is no base number for total population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951323 liduo4399 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951337 can’t just compare the two period, need to look more data between the two time

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:10 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951337 Yuan Qiwen 3036531055 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951393 The statement implies a causal relationship ("being sailors in the US Navy is very safe") based on a comparison of death rates. However, the comparison is between two different groups (US Navy and NYC residents) with potentially different risk factors. This is not a valid causal claim—it’s merely a correlation, and even that may be flawed given the lack of context and control for confounding variables.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951393 Jessie Wang 3036533510 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951445 Changes in population and different sampling

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951445 Bai Peilong https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951562 The whole population is also increase.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951562 Lei xinyi 3036533704 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951565 lack of the total population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584951565 Without providing the proportion of mental patients in the past and present among the total population， it is impossible to make a comparison wusiyuan1108 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952356 2025-09-15 07:23:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952356 Ignore population growth https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952479 2025-09-15 07:23:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952479 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952484 The total population is also changing, so there is a lack of data on its proportion of the total population to make a judgment.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952484 13539886033 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952518 hide the absolute number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:23 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952518 lack of volume of dead people guxiaoxia040116 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952601 2025-09-15 07:23:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952601 CHEN Qing 3036531548 bgwrznnctj https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952831 don't show the percentage and the relationship is unlikely to be linear

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952831 urwinky https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952841 lack of percentage

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952841 u3653104 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952901 The total number is increasing. Sampling bias and measurement errors might affect the accuracy of the data

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584952901 MA Yunyao 3036531328 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953027 The number of human populations is not given here, so we cannot judge the percentage.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953027 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953125 the total number of people during these years may also change

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953125 Wu Peiru 3036536043 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953357 the world’s total population is also increasing during this period

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:42 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953357 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953392 The claim that "being sailors in the US Navy is very safe" based on this comparison is flawed because it compares apples to oranges—war-related mortality versus overall mortality—without adjusting for demographics or causes of death.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953392 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953462 Mental health screening in 1990 might not have been comprehensive. Many people who had depression at that time might not have been investigated or recorded.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953462 u3653053 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953656 It merely compares absolute case numbers, overlooking population growth, changes in diagnostic criteria, and improvements in reporting rates. Therefore, one cannot simply conclude that ‘human mental health is deteriorating.’

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:53 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953656 Tang Zihan3036531213 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953672 The population foundation from 1990 to 2017 has changed.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:54 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953672 3036568515Feng sijie 728550193 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953690 People who can be a Navy potentially has a better body condition and those older can not be navy.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:23:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953690 Xian Zhenghua3036530764 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953867 The population is growing too

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584953867 Fu Yuancen 3036558223 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954268 The statistics didn't show the percentage, as the population is also growing worldwide.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954268 g838359879 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954614 This ratio describes the increase in the absolute number of cases, not the actual growth rate.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954614 jisiqiu https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954681 Lack of specific number of city residents and US navy

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:26 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954681 urwinky https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954735 we don't know the specific number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954735 dipressive disorder can not represent mental health of human beings. https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954770 2025-09-15 07:24:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954770 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954919 the amount of sample size differed

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:31 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584954919 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955067 Total population also increased.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:37 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955067 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955104 Lack of percentage and the total number of each year

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955104 mk27xvct7w https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955144 The lack of percentage and it's a trap of a linear mindset in a non- linear world.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955144 Sheng Jialian https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955162 Number of US navy is quiet small. So it’s just a casual scenario and not comparable to that of NYC.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955162 u3653053 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955220 The comparison lacks comparability. The mortality rate for New York City residents encompasses all age groups and causes of death, whereas the mortality rate for naval personnel pertains solely to a predominantly young and physically fit cohort, calculated using different methodologies. Thus, the conclusion that ‘the navy is safer’ constitutes a misleading statistical comparison.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:44 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955220 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955334 In 1990, many mental diseases were not seeing as disease. So it's a missing data.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955334 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955342 The total global population also changed between 1990 and 2017.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955342 xf2rkkqh4t https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955562 The specific data is not stated. Making a conclusion only by reading percentages is biased.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955562 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955566 the number of the total people is not given

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955566 HAO BINGJIE 3036531110 a1376205727 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955577 Navy sailors in wartime face combat risks, while New York City residents don’t, making the comparison misleading.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955577 koujieyao https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955581 Navy army were mostly young, while the whole city consists of the old. The old would die naturally even when there is no war.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955581 Liushaotong3036568230 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955655 the population of world has increased also

]]> 2025-09-15 07:24:59 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955655 1056855118 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955711 maybe at that time, NYC was experiencing a very serious pandemic or met something as serious as 911

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955711 liduo4399 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955739 Lack of the whole fundamental data for the two team

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955739 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955859 Only provided the percentage of the death without giving the population in Navy vs New York. What about other cities in the US.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955859 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955926 Incomparable design

No total volume of the death

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955926 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955988 The number of population increased

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584955988 13771970310y https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956081 New York City residents could also be counted on US navy. If the data was collected by the US, the death rate would not be accurate for certain purposes. US navy could also die because of health issues they already had rather than get killed by the War

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956081 LEI XINYI https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956106 cant compare due to lack of specific number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956106 it is a inconsistent concept. we dont know what happen in thr NYC at that time，like the structure of the age will affect the death rate a lot. https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956153 2025-09-15 07:25:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956153 LYU DANYU 3036530922 u3653092 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956282 The world total population are different.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956282 Only percentage. No real number https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956337 2025-09-15 07:25:19 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956337 dk9dmqnvrt https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956376 The set of data is different

The people who get to the US Navy has been selected.

Are these two set of people died for same reason? May be not.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956376 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956387 Use the global "number of cases" instead of the standardized incidence rate per population. The world population has grown from 1990 to 2017, so the number of cases naturally increased.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956387 vmzxznkbm6 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956434 The total population of the world was different in 1990 and 2017.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956434 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956451 one is death in battle, another one is more normal

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956451 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956503 I believe there is a data trap of a linear mindset in a nonlinear world, because not only are world population dynamics different from 1990, but also people’s habits are different. They are also not disclosing the characteristics of the study, such as who collected the data? is it random? is it a voluntary response? Are they diagnosed or self-diagnosed? Is there a cause for this increase on the number of cases?

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956503 HUANG Yunjia 3036531718 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956539 Linear mindset in a non-linear world. Also it hides the absolute number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956539 no absolute number. https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956616 2025-09-15 07:25:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956616 3478236346 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956677 There may be other circumstances leading to death in New York.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956677 u3653320 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956692 lack of percentage, and undercovereage because of the mental healthcare’s indevelopment at past

3036533209

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956692 u3653104 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956857 Comparing the death rates of the US Navy and New York City residents ignores the differences in their environments. The Navy's death rate is influenced by combat and training.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956857 WU peiru 3036536043 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956938 1. Lack of the population in US Navy/NYC.

  1. Other factors should also be considered during this period


]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:45 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956938 freyawong https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956987 In 1990, fewer people had knowledge about mental health, let alone a diagnosis of disorder

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584956987 the survey didn’t mention the reason of the death of residents in New York city https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957069 2025-09-15 07:25:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957069 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957093 With the lack of the number of the samples ,the comparison of percentages is ineffective

]]> 2025-09-15 07:25:52 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957093 z1770383283 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957301 The statement "Humans are getting worse in mental health" based solely on rising case numbers is not necessarily true

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957301 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957331 ignoring population growth

The more relevant statistic would be the rate of depression to see if people are truly more prone to depression or if there are just more people.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957331 3035828475 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957367 Navy may have better physical conditions

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:03 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957367 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957390 This two groups of people can’t be compared directly since they are in different ages.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:05 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957390 Jessie Wang 3036533510 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957566 Incomparable design due to different number of population in the 2 cities, and it hides the absolute number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957566 z1770383283 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957585 are comparing two groups that have nothing in common except they overlap in time

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957585 Fu Yuancen 3036558223 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957935 People in the US Navy are mostly very young, so the death rate is not comparable to the New York City, where there are many elders.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584957935 ljh_knight https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958125 Age and Health Disparities:

The US Navy during the war likely consisted primarily of young, healthy adults (mostly men aged 18-30) who were medically screened for service.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958125 Yimin Li https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958234 The population has always existed; it was just not detected due to limited medical conditions. With the popularization of technology, more and more people are being identified.


]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:32 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958234 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958271 the survivorship bias may exist.

Other factors may influence like age，location，etc.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:33 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958271 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958316 Lack of total number for each group and the specific environment(accident?year?) of each group

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958316 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958357 Only percentages are provided, and the specific number of deaths is not known.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:37 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958357 jiangyinuo0122 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958373 Depressive disorder is not the only thing related to mental health.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958373 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958575 There may be some events happened during that time in NY, and the major army in the war may not be NY army


]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:46 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958575 1243485088 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958631 Ignoring the difference in the causes of death, the causes of death between the two are completely different, and the conclusion of "safety" cannot be directly compared.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:48 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958631 3036530207 XU Tianao xxxta0819 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958676 the base number is not provided

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958676 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958687 The war lasted only for a few months. If we compare the 9‰ rate over these few months with the 16‰ rate for the entire year, it is due to the inconsistency in the time scale.

The navy mainly consists of young and healthy men; the population of New York includes infants and the elderly, who naturally have a higher mortality rate.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:51 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958687 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958769 The population of these two samples. And people in US navy are supposed to be stronger than New York Ciry residents.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:26:54 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958769 wusiyuan1108 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958905 There are many different factors that can influence the rate of difference between these two groups, like age and food they had, they will all exert an influence

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584958905 lack of specific number vmzxznkbm6 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584959320 2025-09-15 07:27:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584959320 dgoatxz https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584959981 Missing percentages, measurement of the disorder might be different

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:33 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584959981 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960162 The reasons that caused deaths are different. The data might have been collected by people who had profits related to the navy

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960162 Lyu Danyu 3036530922 u3653092 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960373 We don’t know the specific population. We can’t judge it just based on the percentage.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960373 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960413 The drowning deaths during summer swimming are directly related to watermelon sales, and therefore, the sale of watermelons should be prohibited.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960413 CHEN Qing 3036531548 bgwrznnctj https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960444 it is an incomparable design and don‘t show the specific number

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:51 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960444 g838359879 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960563 The composition of the groups is completely different ：

U.S. Navy: Members are primarily young, healthy adult males who have undergone rigorous medical screening. This is a highly selected, healthy group with a significantly lower risk of death than the general population.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960563 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960584 the dead rate in New York City includes the elders who died because of age, but the dead rate in navy is totally consisted by young people, so it is not safe for young people

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960584 wusiyuan1108 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960638 There are many different factors that can influence the rate of difference between these two groups, like age and food they had, they will all exert an influence

]]> 2025-09-15 07:27:59 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960638 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960773 NYC death rate includes old people and the babies, but people in NAVY are all heathly adults. So the death rate in navy is a pure death rate by war.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:28:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584960773 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961368 First, the population structures differ: most U.S. Navy sailors are young and healthy adults, while New York City residents include people of all age groups such as the elderly, children, and the ill that inherently face a higher risk of death.

Second, the Navy's death rate is mainly related to the war, whereas the death rate of New York City residents involves multiple factors including natural death.


]]> 2025-09-15 07:28:27 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961368 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961406 Missing denominator & changing definitions

]]> 2025-09-15 07:28:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961406 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961559 it contrasts the navy's combat death rate with the city's overall mortality rate from all causes.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:28:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584961559 mk27xvct7w https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962215 The two groups are different, they can’t be lumped together.The U.S navy only took healthy young people while New York city included all kinds of people (women, children, old people)

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962215 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962575 Incomparable groups cusSailors are a medically screened, mostly young male population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962575 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962667 Comparing two completely different groups without context

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584962667 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963116 navy soilder are strong man while there are the elderly in nyc citizen

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963116 u3653320 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963375 No. US navy dose not share the same age forming as NYC.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963375 dgoatxz https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963620 Should have choose the same type of people

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963620 Xian Zhenghua 3036530764 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963638 Navy and resident are different population

]]> 2025-09-15 07:29:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584963638 Lack of population segmentation Liushaotong3036568230 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964051 2025-09-15 07:29:53 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964051 v9mhs2wx4n https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964602 Didn't tell us the natural the mortality rates of the two countries

]]> 2025-09-15 07:30:10 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964602 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964649 the age of the dead people is unknown

]]> 2025-09-15 07:30:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584964649 https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584965287 The population segment is not well defined and the causes of death are not taken into account. Also it is a highly risky profession in which they are highly trained.

]]> 2025-09-15 07:30:34 UTC https://padlet.com/hkumanagement/dnh98r8gxhxz6v0/wish/3584965287