Washington vs. DuBois Group 2 by Course Materials

Booker T. Washington

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W.E.B. DuBois

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3) WHAT DO THEY AGREE AND DISAGREE ON?

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Even people with similar goals don't always see the same path to getting there. Post at least one point they agree on OR one point they disagree on and evidence to support it.

4) WHO IS RIGHT?

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For their time, which do you think makes a better argument about how to advanc black civil rights in this era in American history? Why? Be sure to tie your opinion to evidence.

1) PROGRESSIVE?

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Based on the definition of Progressivism explained in Lecture I and American Yawp, offer at least one piece of evidence from 21-5 "The Atlanta Exposition" that shows how Washington is or isn't part of the Progressive movement

2) PROGRESSIVE?

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Based on the definition of Progressivism explained in Lecture I and American Yawp, offer at least one piece of evidence from 21-6 "Booker T. Washington & Others"
that shows how DuBois is or isn't part of the Progressive movement

INSTRUCTIONS

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Booker T. Washington and W.E.B. DuBois were contemporary activists in the Progressive Era who were both interested in advancing the lives of black Americans.

After watching Lecture I and reading Chapter 20 Sections I, II & VI, use documents 21-5 and 21-6 in Reading the American Past to add a post next to ALL FOUR items below.

Put your name in the header of each of your posts.

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Lauryn Stubblefield - Booker T. Washington

2018-06-21 01:59:47 UTC

Booker T. Washington was definitely progressive. In the Atlanta Exposition Address of 1895, he states, "casting down your bucket among my people, helping and encouraging them as you are doing on these grounds, and to education of head, hand, and heart, you will find that they will buy your surplus land, make blossom the waste places in your fields, and run your factories." Progressives saw the way that the rich benefited while everyone else was struggling. They wanted to tackle the monopolies ad try to give back to the people. This is exactly what Booker T. Washington is talking about in his formal address.

Lauryn Stubblefield - W.E.B. DuBois

2018-06-21 02:30:02 UTC

W.E.B. DuBouis was also a progressive. While he had different ideas than Washington, he aimed for bettering life for the African Americans. In his work, The Souls of Black Folk, he stated that, "they are absolutely certain that the way for a people to gain their reasonable rights is not by voluntarily throwing them away and insisting that they do not want them." DuBouis thought that progression of society was a slow, eventual movement that would come with time. The only thing that the people needed to keep doing was fighting each day.

Lauryn Stubblefield - #3

2018-06-21 02:34:48 UTC

One thing that Washington and DuBois disagreed on was education. While Washington fought for, "education of head, hand, and heart"(Atlanta Exposition Address) to help the African American society become industrially educated so they could take surplus land of others and make it prosper. On the other hand, DuBois argued that the schooling should be, "according to ability"(The Souls of Black Folk). Instead of industrial education, Dubois thought that everyone should have the ability to be educated based on what they were good at and what they had the ability for. This would include things like teachers and business men.

Lauryn Stubblefield - #4

2018-06-21 02:41:41 UTC

In my opinion, the most accepted argument would have been Washington's. Event though i believe that DuBois had better thought process and more of a plan on how to accomplish things in the long term, Washington's progress was quickly visible. Washington stated in the Atlanta Exposition Address that, "the opportunity to earn a dollar in a factory just now is worth infinitely more than the opportunity to spend a dollar in an operahouse." Washington used the here-and-now principle and focused on the current issues. This could have possibly put a back burner on other issues, such as voting, but provided immediate results.

Demi Clay- Booker T. Washington Progressive

2018-06-21 17:51:23 UTC

Washington is part of the Progressive Movement. From the lecture, progressivism was an "efforrt to cure the ills of American society" and to have the wealth shared among everyone. In "The Atlanta Exposition" Washington says, "No race can prosper till it learns that there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem." Washington believes that blacks in the South must become financially independent by working in the "Commercial world" and this will lead to the bettering of society.

Demi Clay W.E.B. DuBois Progressive

2018-06-21 18:08:26 UTC

W.E.B. Dubois was part of the Progressive movement as well. DuBois believed that to cure America of some of the social ills, African Americans needed, "The right to vote, civic equality, and the education of youth according to ability." (RAP 21-6 pp. 119) He stated that it must be an effort of everyone in America to help achieve this. DuBois says, "The burden belongs to the nation, and the hands of none of us are clean if we bend not our energies to righting these wrongs." (RAP 21-6 pp. 120)

Demi Clay One Point they Disagree On

2018-06-21 18:16:40 UTC

One point that Washington and DuBois disagreed on was how to address white supremacy. Washington was an "accomodist to unjust racial hierarchy" while DuBois "validated black personhood and attacked the inhumanity of white supremacy." (Yawp Ch 20 Sec VI) Washington publicly took "conciliatory posture" to white supremacy and believed that African Americans needed to focus on skills that would help them gain economic independence which would lead to a "sense of self-worth and pride of accomplishment." (Yawp Ch 20 Sec VI) DuBois believed that African Americans needed to "concede to nothing and push for equal rights under the law." (Yawp Ch 20 Sec VI) He believed that African Americans needed social equality to prosper and that attacking white supremacy should be on the forefront of the fight.

Demi Clay- Who is Right?

2018-06-21 18:39:24 UTC

For the time, I think that Washington made a better argument. He was focused on "incremental change for longer-term gain." (Yawp Ch 20 Sec VI) White supremacy was something that many people even in the Progressive movement believed in. Washington focused on helping African Americans become economically dependent so that eventually they could have equal rights. DuBois' stance of attacking white supremacy did not help African Americans in the short term. While that definitely needed to be the eventual goal, African Americans needed financial stability to build a sustainable life. Focusing on building themselves up in a way that the majority could get behind was a good first step to social equality.

1. Jordan McDuffey - Washington

2018-06-21 22:19:41 UTC

Booker T. Washington was a progressive, as he called for American society to "cast down their bucket" in order to realize the potential that the United States had in demographics. Washington believed that as separate races, African Americans and Whites could work together in order to advance the nation as a whole, "separate as the fingers, yet one as the hand".

2. Jordan McDuffey - Du Bois

2018-06-21 22:20:36 UTC

W.E.B. Du Bois was also part of the progressive movement, although he advocated progress of the nation through different methods than those suggested by Washington. Du Bois believed that the nation would progress only if the matter of race-relations was viewed as a matter of the nation, contrary to what he believed Washington to preach, which was that the matter of African American progress was an African American matter.

3. Jordan McDuffey

2018-06-21 22:28:47 UTC

Washington and Du Bois agreed that it was necessary that for the nation to progress, African Americans must be involved in the progression process. However, they differed in the methods they believed would help in African American progress. Washington believed that African Americans needed to adjust and submit to the society around them, and that the way forward was through working hard as more of an underclass and then rising to a more equal position though that foundation. Du Bois believed that the way for African Americans to progress was through education, and climbing out of the level that oppression had placed African Americans in, along with the encouragement of White society, saying about the negro "it is equally true that unless his striving be not simply seconded, but rather aroused and encouraged, by the initiative of the richer and wiser environing group, he cannot hope for much success," furthering the narrative that African American progress was integral to national progress.

4. Jordan McDuffey

2018-06-21 22:36:36 UTC

I believe that Du Bois had the better vision for African Americans to progress. Du Bois advocated for African Americans to actively become more integrated into society on their own terms. Du Bois' method would have African Americans demanding more social capital through their advancement in skill, whereas Washington's method would have African Americans gaining more social capital through being tolerated by society, and by having themselves whitewashed in order to fit into White society. Du Bois advocated for an active role in making African American space in society, while Washington advocated for African Americans to wait for White society to accept them.

1.)Jianxun Gao

jianxunjiqnxun — 2018-06-21 23:22:48 UTC

The fact that Booker T. Washington's idea of racial accomadation is to ensure his AA comrades to not change their lifestyle after being freed from slavery, and wait for things to get better rather, telling each race to "cast buckets" and hoping in the near future, things will change, he is not progressive.

2.)Jianxun Gao

jianxunjiqnxun — 2018-06-21 23:26:40 UTC

W.E.B. Dubious was definately a progressive, although Washington also spoke for the betterment of African Americans, but he wasn't encouraging them to go for what they want, but rather wait it out. However, Dubious is the total opposite, page 118 of the primary document 21-6" In answer to this, it has bee claimed that the Negro can survive only through submission...First, political power, Second, Insistence on civil right,...."Dubious is not happy with the result of Washington's propaganda brought about, so he encourages his fellow african americans to fight for their right in any condition, no matter its in the political sense or just in the sense of daily life.

4.)Jianxun

jianxunjiqnxun — 2018-06-21 23:42:19 UTC

I think Mr. Dubious has a better idea on how to advance black civil rights of their era. Mr. Washington is quoted saying in the Atlanta Exposition Adress:" To those of the white race who look to the incoming of those of foreign birht and strange tongue...."Cast down your bucket where you are." Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose fidelity and love...." Washington's encourgement against white folks are touching indeed but at the time of the 20th century, many white families still experienced slavery, and is not likely to willingly follow through with this encouragement, but rather Mr.Dubious's suggestion to fight for the rights seems much more useful as of their time.

3.) Jianxun

jianxunjiqnxun — 2018-06-21 23:55:00 UTC

While the both of Booker T. Washington and W.E.B. Dubious preached and agreed on the betterment of their black folks in terms black civil rights, they disagreed in their way of approaching it. Du Bois suggests black folks should firmly oppose the oppression by the white supremesist and not be talked down to submit to their current state of life like Washington suggests so. We can say that Dubious disagreed on Washington's "conservativeness" and Washinton did not like Dubious's radicalism.