Seminar Discussion Module 6 by Karissa Patton https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6 For breakout-room discussion notes! en-us 2021-09-21 20:19:42 UTC 2026-01-25 17:33:31 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f929.png QUESTIONS/ DISCUSSION GUIDE karissapatton https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1758331830 1)    Who counts as an insider or an outsider? Are these positions static? Fluid?

2) What are some questions or ideas you had about the readings?

3) How did these readings help you understand oral history as a practice? Did it change how you thought about oral history practice?

4) How would you use these readings to help you with your own papers/research?

Big group questions (already answered - just here for the notes):
2)    Discuss the nuance Leddy takes when discussing Indigenous women and “feminism”.
a.     Does she shed her research agenda? If so, how?
b.     Does her own understanding of “feminism” shape her role as an insider and an outsider?
c.     How does this nuanced discussion of feminism and gender systems ultimately enrich her work?

3)    Who is Robert Alexander? Why is his case of the insider/outsider dilemma distinctive?
a.     What social and cultural systems gave him insider status? Outsider status?
b.     How did his complicated role as an insider and outsider affect his research and community relationships?

4)    Describe Yow’s discussion of “corridor talk”. How does this concept of “corridor talk” help you think reflexively about the interviewer-narrator relationship?
a.     Since Yow’s article is considerable older that Leddy’s or Innes’, what can you say about the development of insider-outsider theory in the oral history field?
b.     How has the idea of subjectivity and intersubjectivity developed? 
i.     How does this evolution of ideas relate to systems of knowledge/way of knowing?
]]> 2021-09-21 20:22:07 UTC https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1758331830 Annika, Ali, Virginia alicat16 https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828005944 1) insider/outsider is a fluid term, someone can be an insider and an outsider based on different experiences, or an outsider can have a connection to someone else in other ways. People can have different identities and belong to more than one community.

2) The mention and discussion about corridor talk was interesting to me (ali), how to bridge insider/outsider when interviewing and how to disclose your connection and make them comfortable (virginia), insider/outsider positions come out no matter what in some way (annika), 

3) helped to understand the many layers to oral history and how it has evolved over time, didn't really change how we thought of oral history other than realizing how many layers there are to acknowledge.

4) reiterated things we already knew and solidified our thought, lots of good reminders about interviewer impacts, insider/outsider advantages and disadvantages.]]> 2021-10-19 17:33:17 UTC https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828005944 Aleah, tasha , caylee, nrandelltremblett1 https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828022375 1 - society views it as stagnant and structured. everything in boxes, reflected in Academia, the reality is very fluid in concepts and use. 
2 - more personal reflections on ideas of how insider and outsider is reflected in papers 
3 - not particularly, a better understanding of insider /outsider. does there have to be an understanding of it? how has it changed from perception? don't really like the term, which causes separation/alienation? 
4 - understanding the ideas surrounding oral history to become more aware. in the scenario of undergrad - consider an insider in the interview process, but makes her reevaluate how she does her research/paper perspective. levels of comfort, self-reflection. for grads  - levels of insiderness with reflection to work/volunteer with aspects of research but due to trauma-informed experiences outsideness as because experiences are so personal.  a lot of reflection and perspective examination going forward with research. ]]> 2021-10-19 17:39:27 UTC https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828022375 Breakout Room #2 - Kamila S. Hayley B. Alyssa H. https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828023468 ->  Corridor talk is a great place if you are an insider, to get the feedback from those who are outsiders and ensure you aren't missing the opportunity to ask questions or explore areas that might be of interest those we aren't insiders. 
-> Made those of us who are interviewing people we do have existing relationships with reflect on what we would do if we were interviewing people who are not known to us. Or even how we might react if the people we do know take the interview to a place we don't expect. 
-> The readings opened our eyes to the fact that oral history go against a lot of the rules you are taught in academic institutions. "Never use "I" in academic writing". But this is very aligned with the fact that the interviewer is part of the conversation happening and therefore their perspective  should be captured in the writing that comes from the interview. 
 
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]]> 2021-10-19 17:39:51 UTC https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828023468 Group 4, Kale, Marissa, Gaberielle https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828027574 1. Well for example an insider (like Alexander) was a First Nations man, but was an outsider due to how he and his mother lost status, eventually regained status. We said that they were fluid, because he lost his status but was apart of the community and later regained his status. You can go from being an outsider to becoming an insider.
2. Important that it shows you can be an insider and an outsider, you are not just one category. You can be fluid. Just an observation on the reading. 
3. Insider outsider relationship isn't straight forward, it can get really complicated. There are many sections to oral history. There are different perspectives (like the 30 year time gap), have to think about how others felt and putting yourself in their shoes during them writing, to truly understand their perspective, take yourself out of the equation. Having a basis knowledge of the times helps a lot with this.
4. use things, learn from and take from their methods whenever you are using your methods or your progress. You can relate your papers and research with their knowledge in order to get a better understanding of the concepts.]]> 2021-10-19 17:41:17 UTC https://padlet.com/karissapatton/module6/wish/1828027574