https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f Let's Start here: What do you want to know/discuss? At its core, what is the novel about? en-us 2021-12-06 20:12:23 UTC 2025-08-04 22:02:38 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932171048 I think the novel is mostly about detachment. Every main character does the detachment or has experienced it from other characters. I would like to discuss the psychological effects suffering from detachments brings to the people affected. Each character shows that it comes out in different ways but almost none seem to better their situation. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:19:35 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932171048 agonzalez448 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932171538 The novel has hovered around the idea of loss that people experience in their lives. Rashid, Washington, and Hanson all lost someone important to them. Rashid and Washington lost their brothers to death, while Mrs.Hanson lost her husband to divorce. Both Rashid and Washington can no longer talk to their brothers and they have to deal with that pain. Hanson can still talk to her ex-husband but she lost that marriage and relationship with him and has to deal with the pain of him moving on.  

I want to know how other people deal with the loss of someone they consider important and how it impacts them in their day-to-day life.]]> 2021-12-06 21:19:58 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932171538 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932174509 I believe the novel is about the way a social society acts upon the people of color and the way they fight their battles and other battles that are not only for them but others as well. An example of this can be seen how Rashid was fighting the grief he had when his brother Kofi died and the way he was able to write his speech in order to speak out about his struggles to the school so that they would hopefully understand. In other words it was about overcoming obstacles that may be in your way but you can still get through them.]]> 2021-12-06 21:22:04 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932174509 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932175567 The novel is about dismissal and I say this because each character dismisses themselves from painful situations. Even in the factors a race, African Americans are their but they are being dismissed. In the novel the problems always remain, they are just being dismissed because they are scared for the exposure of feelings that goes for the factor of race and the characters personal problems. 

I would like to know if it wasn't for Rashid would Ms. Hansen still not agree with Mr. Washington's perspective or is it merely Rashid that influenced her to keep her distance from Mr. Washington. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:22:57 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932175567 fmartinez087 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932175861 At its core, the novel is about re-acceptance since it applies to every character no matter the gender, social class, ethnicity, and life experiences. It's because of their different lives that they seem to have the same struggle.

I would like to know how each character from the novel dealt with their traumas and how if that impacted them throughout their lives making them who they are in the present moment in the novel.  ]]> 2021-12-06 21:23:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932175861 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932176407 I think the novel is about rejection and perseverance. In the novel I see a constant pattern of rejection that is shown in each character, both major and minor. I love how that painful experience develops into something greater and can possibly impact other characters growth. I want to know what impacts have been made and how has it changed the character. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:23:31 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932176407 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932177553 At its core, the novel focuses on how rejection can either lead to neglecting your own or embracing others. Each character experienced neglect and rejection in some way which led to them interacting with each other differently. They all used these experiences to get through certain barriers that they faced while at Chelsea. 

Also, I would like to know/discuss how can we use rejection or any other negative impacts on our lives to better our surroundings rather than only ourselves. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:24:23 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932177553 tbustill0002 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932177671 In my opinion I think the novel is essentially about finding one self. As seen throughout the book not many of of the characters seem to be clear on what they want and even if they are doing the right thing. Just like we saw with Mr. Washington it seem though he was trying to figure himself out, he was loosing himself by doing so. For his past was his torment and couldn't seem to face it nor go past it. 
Although it does touch base with topics like racism and rejection, identity loss/confusion is something highly present in the choices each character made through out the novel.

I would want to discuss if the way Mr. Washington negates his past (or anyone in general) and so bitterly goes about his present, have a great impact on each event that took place in his life.

]]> 2021-12-06 21:24:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932177671 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178343 A big theme in the novel that I feel reflects what it is about is intersectionality. It digs deep into the categories or race, class, and gender while developing the topics of disadvantage. This leads into another on of the big ideas, rejection. Intersectionality and rejection play hand in hand in the stories of each character.  Both themes described the nature of their lives socially and how they deal with each obstacle. Rashid, Mr. Washington, Ms. Hansen, Gerald, Etc.. have all had to deal with these topics but they have made them who they are.

What I want to know is do you agree with Mr. Washington's view on race and achievement? Is there some truth in his opinions on success?]]> 2021-12-06 21:25:00 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178343 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178519 I think the novel is about character development. Throughout the novel we watch the major characters change & grow. We read their experiences & their thoughts. Compared to the beginning of the novel, there have been different types of changes that the characters have gone through. Their way of thinking & values have changed along with their relationships with people. Even small changes have helped them grow in some aspect.

 I would like to discuss how everyday events & decisions lead to the development of a person. A certain decision can change the way someone thinks or views something & a certain event can help a person learn something themselves.]]> 2021-12-06 21:25:09 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178519 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178553 I think the novel is about accepting/rejecting ones identity. Rashid Bryson, goes through a very tumultuous time, and is surrounded in an environment which makes him inferior compared to those around him. The only person Rashid could relate to, Mr. Washington, rejects him. Mr. Washington rejects the fact he is a black man just like Rashid. Rashid is learning to embrace himself while Mr. Washington continues to fall down a path of self-sabotage. I would like to know if Mr. Washington will end up changing or continue acting the way he is.]]> 2021-12-06 21:25:11 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178553 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178587 At it's core, the novel is about the inner conflict we have when we are faced with a problem. They all appear to be intertwined, and whatever happens in the life of one of them, will affect the other sooner or later, no matter how big or small that impact might be.  It discusses the battle people of color face and how different people tend to have negative or positive views on them depending on their personal experiences and upbringings. 

Something I would like to know if Mr. Washington would change anything he has done in his past, or if he is content with what he has done. = J.R. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:25:12 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932178587 lescalan0012 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932179511 I believe that the Fall of Rome deals more with internal struggles of character like not being to accept themselves. Throughout the story, we see how character like Rashid and Mr. Washington struggle with their abilities to accept how their situations are and in turn affect the people around them, usually pushing them away.]]> 2021-12-06 21:25:55 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932179511 hperez0096 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932180294 I wanted to discuss how Rashid is going to handle his problems from now on will he try to face them alone or will he accept his support group of people to help him? Also I would like to talk about all these different characters have experienced a loss of some kind in their life and what they do to overcome it and be at peace with themselves. 

 At its core this novel is about social/racial divides, dealing with betrayal/abandonment, the loss of a loved one, clashing ideals, morals and how you deal with your emotions. Conflicts are how most of these are shown in the story may it be inner conflicts, man vs man conflict, or man vs society conflicts. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:26:34 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932180294 aortega0232 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932181431 At its core, I believe that The Fall of Rome is about persistence whether it be the wrong kind or the good kind of persistence. Rashid kept on persisting to be better for himself and he was persistent in wanting more kids like him at the Chelsea school while Washington kept on persisting that the traditions of the school be upheld and was reluctant to help Rashid through his time at Chelsea because of the twisted philosophies that make him believe that Rashid didn't need help. Hansen was persistent in helping Rashid get through his troubles because of her fear of losing another student. She was also persistent in trying to change the way Washington saw Rashid. 

I would like to discuss why Rome and those writers were so important to Washington. I would like to know why he lived by those meanings. ]]> 2021-12-06 21:27:28 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932181431 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932181438 The novel the Fall of Rome may be a journey of self-discovery through rejection, loss, and reformation in some way. Each character has faced rejection and/or forsaken from people they entrusted themselves to. Loss of such people or of specific relationships gives each character a background story explaining why they behave the way they do towards others. Reformation is allowing themselves to "heal" those wounds (negatively or positively) after realizing how that behavior has impacted their surroundings—both parties they like and dislike.]]> 2021-12-06 21:27:28 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932181438 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932182000 The Fall of Rome displays various themes throughout the book. It is about conflicting values, heartbreak, betrayal, vulnerability, denial, and bond all at once. Readers have not only witnessed Ms. Hansen and Mr. Washington's budding romance, but their opposing values as well. We felt a grasp of what heartbreak felt like through Rashid, Mr. Washington, and Ms. Hansen's lives. We saw Rashid at his most vulnerable moments, including his break down to Gerald about his brothers death. We saw what it was like for Rashid to be rejected by his parents, and Mr. Washington to reject his own brother. I would like to know whether readers think Rashid's parents would have acted the same way to Kofi if Rashid was the one to pass away instead.]]> 2021-12-06 21:27:56 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932182000 ocollins0003 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932182051 There are a lot of major themes that took place in The Fall of Rome . Despite some of the horrible situations that took place from every situation a lesson was learned . The Fall of Rome teaches us alot about loss , rejection , trauma , racism , stereotypes just to name a few .   Most of the major characters in this book has lost someone close to them . 

I would want to know how other people handle grief . In what ways can they be strong / survive without letting the death of someone they knew tear them down ?]]> 2021-12-06 21:27:58 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932182051 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932184214 I think the novel is about rejection and neglect. We see how many characters have dealt with rejection by those close to them and how they often face challenges where others neglect them. We see how Mr. Washington decides to reject a bond with him and Rashid just because of his race.  He constantly discriminates against Rashid when he tries his best to create a connection.
Something that I want to know/discuss is how can the refusal of others impact someone emotionally.]]> 2021-12-06 21:29:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932184214 rrucker0002 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932184227 I believe that the novel is about emotional impact because of the way that Mr.Washington carries himself and not too many things can really bother him but when he has feelings for something it can cause him to show a different side. Rashid wanted to hold in his emotions but the only way he could stop feeling bad for himself was to express himself. Ms. Hansen is a huge character because of the emotional impact she has on the other main characters. Causing them to change the way they act or open up about many difficulties.]]> 2021-12-06 21:29:50 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932184227 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932186232 The novel is about running away from being hurt. Mr.Washington, Rashid, and Ms.Hansen have been through some things that have stopped them from living life. So far, in all the situations they've been in their past has affected them in some sort. Mr.Washington lost his brother and assume Rashid is the same. Washington and Ms.Hansen's love life has been very hard for them. They can't seem to want love due to an old relationship that happened. Rashid expecting his brother to come home and had took a tole on him. He starts to open up about it even if it hurts him. I think once the hurt is gone, the characters will begin to open up and live a little bit more and not hold back. I think they are so afraid of what might happen, they not opening their eyes to let something new happen. I don't the characters realize life can change, Sometimes change can be good and bad. 

I would want to know how do you get rid of hurt and pain. How do settle for better with different things being thrown at you?]]> 2021-12-06 21:31:24 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932186232 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932190424 The novel represents characters who are full of rejection in different ways from love to even life itself in which is how these characters can relate to one another. Rashid and Mr. Washington lost a brother to death while Mrs. Hanson lost her husband to divorce and these three characters have a different response on they deal with their situation, so what I want to know is does the way you loose someone effect how you miss the person ? - a.h ]]> 2021-12-06 21:34:42 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932190424 https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932548693 The novels situates around toxic masculinity. Mr.washington and rashid are both similar when it comes to not expressing their feelings but because of there is a mediocre on how men should be in the society especially showing their emotional side to women. They alseo seem to suffer after rejection and instead of breaking the cycle, it just keeps going and having a withdrawal effect on everyone they are surrounded by. for instance, Mr.washington mom was rejected by her husband and so she extended it to her son and Jerome picked that bad influence and spread it to rashid in the sense of not knowing him and rejecting him for who he is disregarding the fact that he was the same race as him. i would like to know how it would turn out if Jerome wasn't raised in a toxic environment and the feeling that no one else around you can succeed because of the stereotype being taught.]]> 2021-12-07 02:22:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lguy2/d0842bvvjtwydx1f/wish/1932548693