Roundtable Discussion on ASEAN Women and Children Protection through Civil Society and Academic Participation by Diaz Kurniawan https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21 on the Role of CSOs and Think Tanks in the Protection of Women and Children in ASEAN, Tuesday - 31st August 2020 en-us 2021-08-31 03:29:02 UTC 2021-08-31 07:25:22 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f469-1f467-1f466.png Moderator & Notetaker diazkurniawan111 https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706109258 Moderator : Vicky
Notetaker : Ayu]]> 2021-08-31 03:36:56 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706109258 Moderator & Notetaker diazkurniawan111 https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706111975 Moderator : Hafiz
Notetaker : Chusnul]]> 2021-08-31 03:38:07 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706111975 Moderator & Notetaker diazkurniawan111 https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706113291 Moderator : Tunggul
Notetaker : Lucky]]> 2021-08-31 03:38:39 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706113291 Kurnia chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706463294 since long time ago there is a big problem from child marriage as common thing in Lombok. Child marriage violate child rights. There is correlation between child marriage and women's welfare. Child marriage happens due to cultural traditions, the high number of children drop out of school, and the absence of registration number to get the basic service.


]]> 2021-08-31 06:29:14 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706463294 Audrey Lee researchascfisipol https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706471406 - The number of women affected by Covid in terms of economic (job loss, etc), some of the things can be done by the CSOs: increasing their ability to act fast to respond the resilience.]]> 2021-08-31 06:33:44 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706471406 What do you think media put advantage how media potray the woman ? https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706474329 Taufan-
TV often time consume by midle low income class, the idea of inequality.
Framework for media is necessary from KPPI Kominfo, to raise the awareness of the inequality.

Main obstacle ?
Is the media use women as a tool ?
Objectifying woman is a common thing by media,
Skin tone is one of the objectification.

-Kenyo
Indonesia, it's still very shallow about the objectification, i's show the lack of journalist.]]> 2021-08-31 06:35:22 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706474329 reylinne chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706483860 problem during Covid-19: children stay at home to go from school. they didn't have enough  access to online platforms for online learning and communication. Abuse, violence, less opportunity for LGBTQ children. Policy brief had been given to provide assistance for children.


]]> 2021-08-31 06:39:29 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706483860 Is the agenda of “Women, Peace, and Security (WPS)” and Women Empowerment as promoted by the UN all- encompassing enough? Are there issues that have yet to be covered within this agenda? researchascfisipol https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706484992 Audrey Lee

In ASEAN Context, the agenda of women, peace and security is important, however ASEAN should prioritise specific issues to be addressed first.


Jelen Paclarin

- Women in the economy should be addressed: we can't focus on specific issue when there's conflict.
- Women issues can't be seen as a social issue alone, but also should in line with economic and political issues as well.



]]> 2021-08-31 06:40:05 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706484992 The media potray Woman perfectly https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706486909 -Taufan
Think thank have capability to formulate policy brief.
Sometime hard to make sure the gov listen to the think thank brief.

Wiwi
-Media is one of facilitator of women objectification, exp sinetron.
 Hope in the future media won't stereotyping women anymore.


]]> 2021-08-31 06:41:08 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706486909 Ryan chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706490756 - realized that children community was diverse group, with different class, religion, gender orientation, identity, etc
- provide safe space especially for LGBT child and young people for socialize
]]> 2021-08-31 06:43:10 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706490756 Gading chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706500080 The existence of the refugee/migrant groups/children was often denied. They have limited access general rights eg. safe house. the absence for protection, dangerous journey, smugglers or trafficking, limited access for basic needs. there are limited support for this group.]]> 2021-08-31 06:47:32 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706500080 How media should potray women and children idealy ? https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706502159 Wiwi
-30% quota in parlement (women). Guarantee the representative (quantity).
-Banjar 25% in parliament. Sometimes women facing resistance from women themelves

Yusnarida
-When we discuss men and women, there's always Controversy.
-Women always face ouble burden, especially the wives.

Elok
-Women doesn't have to be good looking in media
-In academic we can do (encourage media) present women who have achievement (talented). Not only good looking.]]> 2021-08-31 06:48:34 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706502159 zico e.p chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706507475 Despite there is no clear policy from the government for the children on the move. organization that working on this issues push the agenda for several advocacy that have been doing eg. the registration for vulnerable population


]]> 2021-08-31 06:51:20 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706507475 what can be done to increase the participation of children in policy making process? chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706517245 - Andik:
the participation from the children was increase. but, marginalize community and street children was not participate. what can be done? Introduce and explain their rights to increase their awareness and participation. 

- Ryan Silverio:
the limited acsess for digital technology, they were unable to communicate and it affected the well being of children]]> 2021-08-31 06:56:16 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706517245 Impact 4th indrustial revolution. https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706522391  on women and children.


Kenyo
-Bring positive for women and children. We need more rpresentative, digitalization give us platform from that, for ex. Social media.

Taufan
HR exist outside the domestic realm, not all families common view about the rights of children. 
what happened in household has domino impact beyond the household.
We should start from public space.

Still hard to legitimize RUU, what academia can do is give advice for government.]]> 2021-08-31 06:58:38 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706522391 Has ASEAN done enough in mainstreaming the rights of persons with disabilities? What additional efforts can CSOs play to push forward the goal? researchascfisipol https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706523104 Rita Kolibongso
- When we're talking about ASEAN mechanism related to women issues (related to the implementation of CEDAW): the activity, synergy of regional mechanism (ACWC) is still looking for how the role of this body to be more responsive and supporting towards the implementation of CEDAW, within issues of women and migrant workers and so on.


Audrey Lee
- the 'international' women's human rights agendas and those at ASEAN is different in a normative sense, but that it needs to be regional and country specific, in addressing how women and girls realities are impacted by external and domestic forces.
- just on the point of the ASEAN Comprehensive Recovery Framework - as the key covid policy in the region,  there are already existing critiques that emphasise how some missing pieces and disconnection in this policy from the different blueprints.
- there are structural issues at the grassroots and also institutional human rights actor level needs more work dismantling and understanding.

Jelen Paclarin
- There are efforts in other ASEAN bodies like ASSC to mainstram gender. But a lot of things need to be done.
- ASEAN is still not ready to mainstreaming the rights of marginalised people. The work of ASEAN Soc-Cult Pillar is not enough in attempt to achieve such goal.
- In addition, pandemic has shown there are more challenges women should meet in the next few years.
- SEA culture that is leaning to authoritarianism smh can be seen as something that could hinder the process of mainstreaming the rights of the vulnerable groups.

Sudthida
- the vulnerable group is underrepresented within the regional mechanisms or bodies.

Dali
we need to look up more on each region based on their needs and problem, at this pandemic situation, each of marginalized group face different situation, especially being a caretaker. Woman issues has many layer, more understanding and prioritize on the easing the problem will be needed, to avoid political agenda only.]]> 2021-08-31 06:59:00 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706523104 https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706529529 Elok
Government should be respect the society, there sould be no cybercrime or bullying. All women and children should be protected by UU.


]]> 2021-08-31 07:02:04 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706529529 the government's effort in supporting the wellbeing of the children chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706541514 Reylinne:
Government effort was not enough. These issues are not seen as a priority during pandemic and before. We should find any solution for this issues.

Gading: 
we should be realizing that mental health is an important issue. mental health was not a dominant issue in SEA. we should consider the existence of another group--marginalized group-- that had traumatized experiences. 



]]> 2021-08-31 07:07:54 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706541514 What are the common challenges in realising the protection of women in the national and regional level? researchascfisipol https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706545644 Rita Kolibongso
- we still lack of the mechanism in dealing with the issue on VAW (report, etc). E.g.: case of Myanmar: we are looking for the right mechanism to address about issues related to the marginalised women. How we can synergise the "ASEAN Way" to cooperate, but still miss to ensure women's recovery from the situation.


Audrey
- Another common challenge is also more paternalism and protectionism in policies and programme responses especially after covid, rather than focus on agency and capacity and resources and options for women and girls.
- it's really important to talk about the level of ACWC's visibility and accountability. other than having an access to the report, society must have access to see what actions the ACWC in the efforts to promote and ensure the protection of the rights of women and children.


Jelen
- It appears that budget is always an issue. I think ACWC needs to think boldly and use their TOR to influence protection policies both at the national and regional levels.   Access to justice due to varying levels of identities and intersectionality also is a challenge for the the survivors.
- empower the ASEAN students and youth to support the effort of ACWD in disseminating reports and other information.
- access to justice of girls and women (which are interrelated one and another) should be addressed. 


Lway A Sandar Win
There are many challenges in Myanmar when we try to protect women from violence. there are many harmful customary practices, patriarchy , not enough polices and Laws  to protect women and children.  And also here are many illegal arrest, killing and many violence after the military coup. Therefore, there is no legal aid and supporting group within country who can take action on those human rights violation.


Fitriyani
- example in Tasikmalaya: no local regulation (Perda) addressing the issues on the rights of women and children.
- more actions should be taken to build synergy between the government, society, and organisations (industries).

]]> 2021-08-31 07:09:47 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706545644 A common problem faced by Think thank ? https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706553702 Taufan
-There is no one voice from member states regarding the issue.
Basic rights should be priority. We only have charter of Human Right, but How they tackle with HR issue is questionable.
-Non interference for Human right is not necessary depite for domestic politic is make sense.

Yusnarida
(how to protect women and children)
-Sekolah ramah anak, they preventing bullying. Can prevent children in school
-Kampus ramah gender to preventing gender violation or discrimination, even sexual harashment.

]]> 2021-08-31 07:13:40 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706553702 https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706559757 -Women and children are vulnarable, and what Indonesia have been done can be implemented in regional level, as it's human right.
-We need a forum and network and can be starrted from here.


]]> 2021-08-31 07:16:55 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706559757 The challenges to reopening the school chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706568552 Kurnia:
The number of people that had been vaccinated was still low.


]]> 2021-08-31 07:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706568552 What are the networks established by the CSOs in attempt to overcome the women and children issues in the region? what are the lessons learned and good practices? researchascfisipol https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706569889 Audrey: SEA Women's Caucus on ASEAN set up in 2008; WEAVE

A Sandar Win: WAVE 

Jelen: IWRAW-AP, SEAWWATCH, SHAPE SEA

Sudthida: Ateneo Human Rights Centre (the Working Group for an ASEAN Human Rights Mechanism Secretariat)

LESSONS LEARNED:
Audrey: it's not easy to access and engage with the information if there is no available system established. how much transparent information should be provided by the ASEAN to public? There are also issues related to the engagement between ACWC with the CSOs: the engagement is needed to validate certain information or issues. Hope for more strengthened engagement between CSOs and ASEAN bodies/mechanisms in the future.


]]> 2021-08-31 07:22:31 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706569889 c https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706570700 Closing remarks

Yusnarida
We need our energy to protect the women and children.

Elok
Our role, we have to develop our student to have good performance in their studies, so media can show them. Children should be protected by governence through policy.

Taufan.
It's a long way to go, as long can seprate human right from politic, we can make it.

Wiwi
encourage 25 % quota for women in parliament

Azrina R.
she believe change in perception and attitude towards women and children need to start in family themselves as the basic social unit.I


]]> 2021-08-31 07:22:58 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706570700 closing statement chusnulmariyah https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706574909 Gading
- ACWC: adopt the models -> regular forum to find the issues and strategic solution
- raise the issues, including the children on the move on their agenda 

Reylynne
- increase the participation of children in forum and decision making process
- recognize the diversity of this group]]> 2021-08-31 07:25:22 UTC https://padlet.com/diazkurniawan111/rtdnote30aug21/wish/1706574909