https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06 WR120 EA en-us 2021-10-13 16:43:57 UTC 2021-10-21 17:43:53 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f58b.png tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814588679 Although Beauty and The Little Mermaid seem like your typical leading females in a fairy tale, I will argue that they are different from the usual, and actually contradict popular ideas relating to feminism and the impact on children when it comes to fairy tales.

]]> 2021-10-13 16:48:38 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814588679 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814605531 Looking at the tales "Beauty and the Beast" and "The Little Mermaid", there is a noticeable similarity of rash-decision making between both leads, and an exemplary amount of power given to the female lead.]]> 2021-10-13 16:54:56 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814605531 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814610274 Why is this not as common? How is this contradictory to what is typically seen in fairy tales? What specifically can be used to counter the critical essays?]]> 2021-10-13 16:56:44 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814610274 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814618664 Beauty takes control of her situation and makes the decision that instead of letting her family try to help her, she is going to go with the Beast as her dad had promised. ]]> 2021-10-13 16:59:52 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814618664 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814634631 The Little Mermaid is able to work her way up to the surface of the water, and immediately falls in love with a prince she was able to save. She then makes the rash decision to give up her voice and put herself through agonizing pain in order to MAYBE be with the prince.]]> 2021-10-13 17:05:48 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1814634631 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815675040 Both girls are able to gain control over their situations, leading them to contradict the idea that women are out of power in their stories (as described in "Feminism and Fairy Tales")
"...she is unable to act independently or self-assertively; she relies on external agents for rescue..." (239).

use this section to discuss how the characters contradict the ideas presented here, it can probably make up multiple paragraphs, one for each contradiction]]> 2021-10-14 02:04:52 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815675040 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815886667 It seems as though the lead female character is able to gain control over her situation and hold the power over her own romantic journey]]> 2021-10-14 03:35:53 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815886667 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815887855 How do these characters contradict the ideas presented by Zipes?

show the similarities, and again, can probably have a few or one per paragraph! (she chases a man, the man is handsome in the end, etc)]]> 2021-10-14 03:36:28 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815887855 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815889812 Truthfully, a lot of the ideas line up with what Zipes states about feminism and a lot of their traits (could be a good place for a counterargument)]]> 2021-10-14 03:37:23 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1815889812 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818023847 I feel like the most surprising part is trying to argue how these choices were logical. The least convincing claim is probably topic sentence 2, i need to find more ways to ague it. A reader may ask how I came to these conclusions that cant exactly be proved, so i need to make sure i have enough evidence to back them up]]> 2021-10-14 19:36:26 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818023847 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818364949 potentially "Feminism in Fairy Tales" and "On the Use and Abuse of Fairy Tales with Children"]]> 2021-10-15 00:17:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818364949 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818413851 use the ideas of frued and bettelheim mentioned in Zipe's story to show how the fairy tale does and does not fit with the ideas presented (not sure if i'm using this or not, very tentative idea)]]> 2021-10-15 00:41:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818413851 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818416188 wrap up ideas, make sure the counterargument is fully addressed and taken care of, try to really reiterate how the characters contradict ideas shown in essays!]]> 2021-10-15 00:42:45 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818416188 tnwall https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818438724 In fairy tales, we typically see the leading female character as the one out of control. The male figures in her life, whether that be her father or a romantic interest, have power over her life, and she is unable to do things the way she wants to. She is often seen as helpless, desperate, and in need of a man to change her life. However, when looking at "Beauty and The Beast" by Madame Leprince De Beaumont and "The Little Mermaid" by Hans Christian Andersen, one can pick up on not only a pattern of rash-decision making that can end up being life-changing by the male characters, but by the female leads as well. Contrary to this popular view of female leads having no control in fairy tales, there is actually a lot more power put into the female's court in these two tales. They are able to make decisions, they can speak for themselves, and they sometimes have even more of a say than the male leads do. Although Beauty and The Little Mermaid seem like your typical leading females in a fairy tale, I will argue that they are different from the usual, and actually contradict popular ideas relating to feminism and the impact on children when it comes to these tales. ]]> 2021-10-15 00:52:57 UTC https://padlet.com/tnwall/cn6wxlkabqcnwz06/wish/1818438724