https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml Block 3 en-us 2022-03-14 17:58:06 UTC 2022-03-18 19:44:43 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094455254 The characters in "EPICAC" and "A Midsummer Night's Dream" are not responsible for their actions ,because in "A Midsummer Night's Dream" ,Robin and Oberon are messing with true love ,and the four lovers have no control of who they love. In act 2 scene 1 ,the book uses cupid as an example of how love is shot at ,blindly, upon random victims ,showing it was not to their will or action. And in "EPICAC" ,EPICAC cannot help but falling in love with Pat even though he had just learned what love was. Later ,the narrator tells him Pat will never love a machine ,it's fate. This shows EPICAC had no control over his fate (being that a machine would never marry woman.)]]> 2022-03-14 18:26:51 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094455254 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094461167 No because in " A midsummer Night's Dream" Robin gives the potion to the wrong people. He didn't know that until he was told by Oberon. He also was told to fix it and that he messed up true love and made love hat wasn't true come to play. In "EPICAC" things took a twist and caused everything to go down hill because of the Narrator telling EPICAC about his love he makes EPICAC fall in love with Pat although he had no clue that is what it was going to lead to just like how Robin giving the potion to Lysander instead of Demetruis he ruined the real love. They both know what they did wrong now that they have ben told and they both take responsibility of their actions, but the Narrator can't as much because he can not bring EPICAC back to life but Robin is trying to fix his mistakes and his wrong doings to make them back to normal.]]> 2022-03-14 18:30:16 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094461167 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094461826 yes, because, both Oberon and the narrator had both asked for a favor and has both gotten consequences from Robin mixing up true love to an opposite individual. And EPICAC now think he can be in love with pat because of his poems. Now both Oberon and the narrator have to solve there problems by fixing what they did wrong.]]> 2022-03-14 18:30:39 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094461826 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462090 Yes, the characters in "EPICAC" and "A Midsummer Night's Dream" are responsible for their actions. In "EPICAC" the narrator is responsible for using EPICAC for poems because in the end of the story EPICAC ended up short circuiting himself. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream" Robin is responsible for making Lysander fall in love with Helena when he was supposed to make Demetrius fall in love with Helena so he had to go back and make Demetris fall in love with Helena and Lysander with Hermia.]]> 2022-03-14 18:30:49 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462090 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462610 The characters in "EPICAC" and A Midsummer Night's Dream are both responsible and irresponsible for their actions depending on who you are talking about. Each character is their own person with their own mind. For example, Robin would be considered responsible for his actions since he can control the way he acts and the things he does such as his tricks and pranks. This is also the same with the narrator, he used EPICAC for his own happiness with his lover when he didn't have to. However, Lysander and Demetrius are not responsible for their actions after the potion affected them as they could not control who they loved and what they were doing at the time. EPICAC also could not control how he had done things and felt things. He was in love with a human and he was a robot designed for making codes.]]> 2022-03-14 18:31:05 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462610 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462698 In a Mid summer night dream i think that they are not responsible for there actions. Bc robin put a spell on Lysander and the Lysander fell in love with Helena. In epicac yeah bc bc the narrator was in control the hole time. the narrator new the epicac could talk and write the poems for him. And in a mid summer night dream robin and Oberon is messing with true love. in epicac the narrator tell epicac that pat will never love him.]]> 2022-03-14 18:31:07 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462698 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462744 No EPICAC does not take the blame for his short coming and Robin refuses to take the blame of using the flower on Lysander witch sows he doesent think before he acts.

]]> 2022-03-14 18:31:09 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094462744 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094463931 In A Midsummer Night's Dream and EPICAC you can see both how the characters have a sense of agency and how they are controlled by outside forces like fate. In the text EPICAC the reader can see the way the narrator acts, like in paragraph 36 you can see how it was the narrators' choice to put his name on EPICAC'S poems and it was also his choice to tell EPICAC about his plagiarism and his actions regarding Pam and EPICAC. And this is also shown through Midsummer Night dreams by how the characters are affected and influenced by oberon and robin that are forces beyond them altering their choices of agency. But the choices the characters make are all done by them the flower never made Hermia or Helena fight that was all their doing. So even though the characters in both EPICAC and The Midsummer Nights Dream are at some point influenced by outside forces like fate, they mostly get make their own choices in the stories following a principle of agency in fate.]]> 2022-03-14 18:31:58 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094463931 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094464463 No because Midsummer Night’s Dream do not want to take the blame for the flower nectar being put in Lysander and Demetrius eyes and in "EPICAC" the Narrator don't want to take the blame for why EPICAC short circuit .]]> 2022-03-14 18:32:20 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094464463 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094466350 In both stories, all characters are responsible for their actions because they're the ones who acted out. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream", both Lysander and Hermia ran away and knew trouble would come to them. In "EPICAC", the narrator would use EPICAC for his own needs and would cause EPICAC into loving Pat, and later short circuiting himself.]]> 2022-03-14 18:33:37 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094466350 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094467259 The narrator in Epicac and Oberon and Robin in A Midsummer Night Dream are responsible for their actions. In paragraph 28 in Epicac the narrator says, "I couldn't propose until I had the right words from Epicac, the perfect words". The narrator was using Epicac to get Pat to love him. In A Midsummer Night Dream Oberon is telling Robin to use the flower's magic to fix his mistake(3.296-100). Oberon are responsible for their actions because they came up with the plan to force people to love. The rest of the characters in the two text are not because their actions are the effect from what the narrator, Oberon, and Robin has done.]]> 2022-03-14 18:34:13 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094467259 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094468415 If the character takes responsibility for their actions depends on the situation and the character. The narrator in "EPICAC" doesn't take responsibility for leaving EPICAC on over night. When he is fired for this the narrator doesn't respond, he takes the poems that EPICAC wrote for Pat and leaves (par. 62-63). The narrator is also the one who lied to EPICAC with the definition of human so he could win this argument over who Pat should marry (par. 44). In "A Midsummer Nights Dream" Robin takes responsibility for putting the magic flower onto Lysanders eyes instead of Demetrius. He eventually discovers what he has done and while he takes responsibility for it, Oberon is the one to try and fix it(3.2.90-93). Weather or not the characters take responsibility for their actions depends on the character and situation they're in.]]> 2022-03-14 18:34:57 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094468415 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470278 The characters in A Midsummer Night's Dream are not responsible for their actions because Robin and Oberon are using flowers to alter the perception of the characters specifically who they love. A Midsummer Night's Dream states "Be it ounce, or cat, or bear,/Pard, or boar with bristled hair,/ In thy eye that shall appear/ When thou wak'st, it is thy dear..." This shows that no matter what the person sees they will fall in love with it against their will. The characters in "EPICAC" are responsible for their actions because the entire time the narrator is aware of what he is using EPICAC for it is only after EPICAC learns about marriage that the narrator realizes that he has made a mistake. The text states "... The amazing, pathetic truth dawned on me..." This shows the narrator's reaction to his actions that he was in control of.]]> 2022-03-14 18:36:07 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470278 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470506 In A Midsummer Nights Dream and "EPICAC", I think that the characters are responsible for their actions because no one else should be responsible for what you choose or your decisions. They should be responsible for their actions and how they choose to go. A piece of text evidence from the article "EPICAC" is from paragraph 11, " I'm not shy. That wasn't the trouble. I knew what i wanted, and was willing to ask for it, and did so several times a month. Pat, loosen up and marry me." This is showing that he has been asking pat and she doesn't know and that is his decision to want to marry her. From A Midsummer Nights Dream, they are having to make decisions on who to love or not to love and who to marry or not to marry. The characters should take responsibility for their actions and thoughts.]]> 2022-03-14 18:36:17 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470506 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470688 The characters in "EPICAC" are responsible for their actions and the lovers of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" are not. In "EPICAC", the narrator decides to use EPICAC to write poems for him. The narrator didn't have to use EPICAC and was fully capable of writing his own poem if he had put in the effort. "I couldn't propose until I had the right words from EPICAC, the perfect words." This shows us that the narrator used EPICAC for his own good, even though he didn't have to. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream", the lovers could not control their actions because Robin and Oberon used the flower's nectar to make the lovers fall in love with other people. "[He anoints Lysander's eyelids with the nectar.] When thou wak'st, let love forbid" It is Robin's fault that the lovers are falling for other people.]]> 2022-03-14 18:36:23 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470688 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470715 Some of the characters from each story presented can or can not be held accountable for their actions. An example from "EPICAC" would be, EPICAC himself. The action of course being falling in love with Pat. EPICAC, while very intelligent, has a limited knowledge of worldly concepts like love. So when presented with this information and a vivid description of Pat, EPICAC misjudgingly falls in love with Pat. Even the narrator knows this to be true. He states in paragraph 34 that EPICAC's conclusion was "perfectly logical". Due to his ignorance EPICAC can not be held responsible. Another instance of this, would be those affected by the love potion in A Midsummer Night's Dream. Characters such as Titania, Lysander, Demetrius, Hermia, and Helena have all had some involvement with the potion. In act 2 scene 1 lines 177-178 Oberon claims that the potion "Will make or man or women madly dote upon the next live creature that it sees.". This proves the fact that any character who has been unknowingly affected by the potion can't control their actions and must not be held accountable. Any other characters from these stories have had full knowledge and control of their actions.]]> 2022-03-14 18:36:24 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094470715 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094477452 In "EPICAC" yes because the narrator was in control the whole time and told EPICAC what to do. EPICAC also knew that he could talk and write those poems. In paragraph 21, it shows that EPICAC knew that he could type because he was asking questions like, "What's love? What's girl?" On the other hand the characters in A Midsummer Night's Dream are not responsible for their actions. This is partly true because in the beginning of the novel, it was Hermia's and Lysander's choice to leave Athens and disobey the duke and Hermia's father. This is proven early on when Lysander stated, " If thou lovest me, then steal forth thy fathers' house tomorrow night, and in the wood a league without the town (where I did meet thee once with Helena to do observance to a morn of May), there will I stay for thee." 
(1.1 165-170) This shows us how Lysander knows what he is saying and even remembers past interactions with Hermia. If we were to talk about the recent parts of the novel, the characters are not in control of their action and their words. This is quite obvious because a little before it tells us that Robin had Nectar from a special flower and that Robin had put it on Demetrius causing Demetrius to fall in love with who he saw first, coincidently being Helena. An example of the characters in A Midsummer Night's Dream not being responsible for their actions is when Demetrius states, " O Helena, goddess, nymph, perfect divine! To what, my love, shall I compare thine eyne?" (3.2 140-141) This gives an example of how Demetrius wasn't in control of what he said because if he was, he wouldn't have said that because at that time he loved Hermia.]]> 2022-03-14 18:40:44 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094477452 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094479009 Yes because Robin for example takes the flower that was gave to him by Oberon. Oberon then told him to "Then crush this herb into Lysander's eye..." [3.2.387]. Robin didn't have to take the flower and follow Oberon's orders but he did. Just like the narrator taking EPICAC's poems to make Pat fall in love with him. The only reason that Pat ends up saying yes that she will marry the narrator is because he took the poem that EPICAC wrote that said "Where willow wands bless rill-crossed hollow, there, thee, Pat, dear, will I follow" 
[p.24]. The narrator could have just read the poem and never traslated it so that he could give it to Pat after he signed it. He also could have ecsepted reality and took the anser no and moved on with his life. So over all yes the characters are responsible for there actions because they could have choose not to do what they did.

]]> 2022-03-14 18:41:43 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094479009 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094492774 No, in EPICAC Pat was tricked because of the poems that she thought the narrator was writing but it was really EPICAC writing them. Therefor EPICAC is not responsible for its actions. So EPICAC was being forced to know about love. "When I thought about it I realized that what had happened was perfectly logical inevitable, and all my fault. In Midsummer Night's Dream the characters are tricked by Robin and Oberon]]> 2022-03-14 18:50:05 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094492774 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094503837 2022-03-14 18:56:44 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094503837 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094517054 Yes, because in "EPICAC" the narrator kept taking EPICAC's poems for Pat to love him.
Also EPICAC wanted to marry Pat but when the narrator told him his fate he realized, so this means that the narrator is responsible for using EPICAC's poems. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream" Robin and Oberon is responsible for using the flower to change loves fate for Hermia, Lysander, Demetrious, and Helena by changing how they love.]]> 2022-03-14 19:06:05 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2094517054 https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2096617609 Yes, because in "EPICAC" the narrator made epicac write the poems instead of himself. In A Mid Summer Night's Dream Robin uses the flower to mess with there love because oberon told him to but he didnt have to listen to oberon.]]> 2022-03-15 18:58:14 UTC https://padlet.com/heathernerren/cd9suippcc9f0iml/wish/2096617609