https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0 Based on the situation, is the patient competent enough to make the decision? How should the patient be treated? en-us 2019-04-04 14:44:11 UTC 2019-04-04 16:01:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Shakinghands.png https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589519 1. I don't believe that he is competent enough to make the decision because he is bleeding internally and is basically on the brink of starvation. He isn't in decent condition to be making any decision because he isn't thinking straight. 
2. Personally, I don't think that religion should overrule your health. I understand that some people are extremely devoted to their religion, but sometimes it gets in the way of their lives being saved. The driver's life is at stake but, he refuses treatment because of his religion. Normally I would let him make his choice, but this time he could die so he should take the treatment.
3. The driver should be given the serum because his life is at stake. Even though his religion is against it, it shouldn't stop him from living.]]> 2019-04-04 15:46:41 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589519 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589683 1. In his condition, I believe he can´t make his decision, only because he just got out of an accident and is experiencing internal bleeding, so he can´t think straight.
2. No, his religious beliefs should not overrule his physical health, his religion is costing his physical health/life. His life is in the doctor´s hands and the doctor has to do whatever it takes to save his life.
3. He should be treated by how he was originally meant to be treated, which is the intravenous serum.]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:02 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589683 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589700 1. I believe that he is competent enough. It would be insulting to not think so just because of his beliefs/religion. And remember that this does take place in the month of Ramadan.
2. However, I do not think the man's religious beliefs should overrule his physical health.
3.The patient should be treated immediately because it's a doctor's job to treat people no matter the situation.]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:04 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589700 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589745 - The patent was in no condition to make a decision to make a answer.
- The ambulance staff should get his contacts of a family member and then that family member could try to convince him if he still don't want to then let him go.
- If I was in the shoe's of the patent I would do the same and died for a religious matter.

]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:09 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589745 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589760 2) I think that the patient should be given the serum. Even though it is against the driver´s religion, his life is at stake. Also, because the driver got into a car accident, he may not be at the right state of mind to make decisions that they would actually want.
3) I think that the driver´s religion does not overrule their health and safety. In this situation, the driver´s life is at stake and to me, it would be best to just save to patient´s life because I would not a patient to die like this.
- Katherine Dizon]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:10 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589760 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589786 1. I think he is competent enough to make his own decision . 2. ]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:13 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589786 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589795 Jackie.A, De´Anne .M, Jennifer.P ]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:15 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589795 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589862 1. I don't believe he's competent enough to make a rational decision. He won't be thinking straight.
2. No, the religion should not override his health because he is in danger. His health is much more important because it is his life. He should be able to live longer.
3. The patient should receive the treatment because he is not thinking straight. As well as, I believe in saving someone if I can help them. 

]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:24 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589862 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589872 2019-04-04 15:47:25 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589872 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589893 2019-04-04 15:47:28 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589893 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589912 1. I don´t think he is competent enough to make a life-ending decision because he is most likely delusional and in so much pain that the only thing on his mind is dying with his religion still relevant. 
2. Despite the fact that his religion prohibits eating I think they should still administer the serum because his religion is not worth his life.
3. I think in any situation a person´s
 life takes precedence over everything so even if it means sedating him to administer the serum, I think it should be done.]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:30 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589912 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589960 3. The patient should be treated as he wants to be treated so therefore if the patient is asking or telling the doctor not to do anything then the doctor should not do anything and leave the patient as he is.
DeAnna M , Jackie A , Jennifer ]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:35 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348589960 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590090 1) The patient is not competent enough to make the decision because he had been in a car accident and is suffering from a severe stomach ache. In addition, his back is also being affected which is causing him to focus more on his religion not his own personal health. This decision is a life or death situation, and the patient is nit in the right condition/state of mind to make his own decision.
2) The man's beliefs should not overrule his decision because his life is at stake and religion should be expressed by praise and worship not by sacrifice.
3) The patient should be treated with the serum because his health is vital for his survival and letting a patient die when you can help them is not fulfilling your job/duty.]]> 2019-04-04 15:47:51 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590090 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590156 2019-04-04 15:47:58 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590156 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590355 1.I believe he could make his own decisions because of his beliefs from what I know fasting helps make a more stronger relationship between him and his god and or gods]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:20 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590355 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590422 They could contact a family member and convince them that the medicine will ]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:26 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590422 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590491 1. No, the patient may not be competent enough to make the decision on whether or not his life is worth saving. The patient is no in the proper mental state of mind to make rational choices relating to life and death situations.
2. The ambulance should and should not treat the patient. Although the patient is in critical condition, the ambulance should not go against the patient's wishes if he does not want to disturb his religious practices. 
3. The patient should be treated how he likes because these are his personal orders. On the other hand, as a physician it is your responsibility to keep your patient alive.]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:36 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590491 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590511 2. No, because his health and safety is more important than following his religious beliefs at a time like this. The doctors should care for him despite his decision.

]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:38 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590511 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590531 1) If he wants to die I would try to stop him but if he wants to that´s his choices.]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:41 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590531 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590533 2019-04-04 15:48:41 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590533 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590571 2019-04-04 15:48:45 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590571 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590609 1. No, I think he should not be able to decide on his own. He was in  pain and wasn't thinking straight due to bleeding internally.
Jacky, Deanna, and Jennifer]]> 2019-04-04 15:48:50 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590609 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590676 1. Yes, because it is his decision on his life choices but the doctor's choice on how to make the patient live before they are sure of what to do.  ]]> 2019-04-04 15:49:00 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590676 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590686 2. i think that he should pick his health not his religious beliefs because he is putting his life in danger.

]]> 2019-04-04 15:49:01 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590686 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590779 3) The physician should just respect the man and his decision because if the man wants to follow his belief, 
then he wants to. The physician cant force the man to do something he does not want to do. ]]> 2019-04-04 15:49:05 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348590779 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591023             ]]> 2019-04-04 15:49:31 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591023 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591293 They could contact a family member to tell the person affected that the medicine could help them live. If the family member says no well then the guy has to put his religion to the side to get better.

]]> 2019-04-04 15:50:07 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591293 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591407 3. I think the patient his religion and his decision should be respected by the physician and overrule his health. If the patient is willing to die for his religion then his religious beliefs must be really important to him. ]]> 2019-04-04 15:50:21 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591407 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591432 1. I think that he should be able to make his own decision, 2. His beliefs should be respected. 3. The physician should respect what the patient wants . The patient has the right to refuse treatment unless they are on 🤬 or were drinking or if they have a brain injury . ]]> 2019-04-04 15:50:25 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591432 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591553 1. In his diminished decision, I think he is competent enough to make the decision because its his life, his own choices and he has rights to make. It is also your job to respect your own patients decision and even though it is a life or death situation it is always the decision of the patient. 



]]> 2019-04-04 15:50:38 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591553 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591803 3. the ambulance physician should rush him to the hospital and after when the patient is there then he can make his decision if he wants to  be treated or care for . 
{lorianne hernandez , isabel castillo}]]> 2019-04-04 15:51:09 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591803 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591886 3) Patient should treat how he would like, these are the guys wishes.]]> 2019-04-04 15:51:18 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348591886 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348592006 This patient is not competent. He just got into a car accident. Some may rebuttal with that fact some people have epiphanies when they get into things like this but, he more than likely hit his head, which can cause hallucinations. - The patient should be treated as he is not competent enough to make a decision . This job is to save lives. - The person's religious beliefs should only overrule his physical health and safety during minor threats but since this is life threatening, no ]]> 2019-04-04 15:51:32 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348592006 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348592357 3. take him the hospital and put him on life support ]]> 2019-04-04 15:52:12 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348592357 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593221 His religious beliefs should not overrule his physical health and safety because this will put him in a bad position with his religion or health .]]> 2019-04-04 15:53:55 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593221 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593824 1. In his current condition, he isn't enough to make the decision because he just came from an accident and he hasn't eaten for a long time meaning he isn't thinking straight.
2. His religion shouldn't overrule his physical health because if his religion is costing him his physical health then it is up to the doctor to save his life.
3.The patient should be treated how he was originally supposed to be treated, which was with the intravenous serum.]]> 2019-04-04 15:55:18 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593824 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593835 2019-04-04 15:55:19 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593835 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593887 he isn't suppose to believe every thing in religion]]> 2019-04-04 15:55:26 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348593887 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348594548 They could contact a family and ask them for permission to give the person medicine and if the family member says no then we could just give them anesthetics. Victor]]> 2019-04-04 15:56:54 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348594548 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348595316 They should call the parents/ contact the family member if he has no family then you should just let him die

]]> 2019-04-04 15:58:49 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348595316 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348596318 I would not be following my religion]]> 2019-04-04 16:01:02 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348596318 https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348596619 Just let him ]]> 2019-04-04 16:01:41 UTC https://padlet.com/msgarcia_0202/c86zhycsu5k0/wish/348596619