Demosthenes and Icarus by wendy https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2 In both the Demosthenes biography and the Icarus and Daedalus myth, the main characters exhibit determination in pursuit of their goals. Did determination help both main characters reach their goals, or did it lead them to tragedy? Explain whether determination helped or hurt the two main characters. Use details from the passages to support your group response. en-us 2017-04-06 13:59:24 UTC 2017-04-06 15:25:00 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Brightnessdown.png Ori Mierom 202321051 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171306 Determination helped both of the main characters, Demosthenes, and Icarus and Daedalus. In the first text about Demosthenes, his determination and perseverance helped him because the results were great, he was the greatest orator of Athens. In the other story, Icrarus and his father Deadalus tried to fly out of the island, Icarus flew too high and died.]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171306 Laura Tillack https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171343 Determination can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. In the first text, "Demosthenes", it helped the main character reach his goal. Since he badly wanted to become a public speaker, he was persistent in his ways to do this. However, the second text, "Icarus and Daedalus", it was a weakness for Icarus since it lead to his death. He was so determined to escape that he forgot to be aware of his surroundings]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171343 Daniel https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171345 The determination of the two main characters, Demosthenes and Icarus helped and destroyed them throughout the story. Determination helped both of the main characters. First, Demosthenes used his determination to become one of the top 10 lawyers in Rome. This was all due to his determination. Icarus also got killed because of his determination flying way too high in the sky. The wax melted off of his fathers contraption and he fell into the ocean where he drowned to death. This was all due to the characters determination.]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171345 Riley Person 20232038 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171423 In the two myths determination helped and hurt with of the main characters. For example, in the first text "Demosthenes" it helps the main character. He was determined to become a great public speaker and a lawyer. In the second text, "Icarus and Daedalus" it hurts the main character. The main character is determined to leave the island. He is able to do that, but he then dies during his journey. It is possible for our greatest strengths to be our greatest weakness. ]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171423 Aydin Goldberg https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171457 It has been said that the difference between the possible and impossible is a man's determination. Both

Demosthenes and Icarus had determination. Demosthenes wanted to become a great public speaker. In the end he did, he became the best public speaker in Athens.

]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:34 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171457 Rachel Kim https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171470 Determination helped and hurt the two main characters. According to the text, "Demosthenes" by John Haaren Demosthenes, the main character was inspired by another lawyer named Callistratus and was determined to win his case. ]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171470 Jenna Jacobson https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171472 In the both texts, determination either helped or hurt the two main characters. Demosthenes's determination helped him become and amazing public speaker. Without being determined, he wouldn't have done such an amazing job in life. For example, after the trial Demosthenes watched, he went home determined to become a lawyer and public speaker. In the other text, Daedalus' determination didn't help him. He was determined to leave the jail and the tower. He came up with the idea of making wings for him and Icarus. At the end, Icarus drowned because his wings broke. ]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171472 Lily Dipple 20232019 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171491 The determination in the stories Demosthenes and Icarus and Daedalus helped one of the characters and hurt the other. For instance, it helped Demosthenes because he was determined to become a successful lawyer. On the other hand, in Icarus's case, it hurt him since he was so determined for freedom he got himself carried away and drowned. That goes to show our greatest strengths can also prove to be our greatest weaknesses. ]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171491 Hunter DiResta https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171516 Both the main characters in both stories, helped them and hurt them in different ways. For example, icarus's determination resulted him a negative thing. He died, and got to close to the sun. In both texts they both have determination to get to their goal. Their strengths resulted in failure. Demosthes never gave up with his strength in becoming a public speaker.]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171516 Christina Parikos https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171577 The characters being determined both helped and hurt them. The second text states that Icarus ended up dying but him and his father were determined to leave the island and they ended up making wings that flew over the ships.]]> 2017-04-06 15:18:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171577 Aaron Peters 20232095 https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171642 Determination helped all of the characters but hurt some of the characters too.]]> 2017-04-06 15:19:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171642 Colin Ference https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171683 The determination in both texts. helped and didn't help the characters. In Demonthsense, the main character improves his public speaking skills, although hurting himself in the process. And in Icarus and Daedalus, the two characters had success, but it resulted in death. ]]> 2017-04-06 15:19:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171683 Wyatt Besnoy https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171707 In both the myths Icarus and Daedalus and Demosthenes, the character's determination allows the characters to be helped and hurt. because one of them died and the other was able to be a lawyer.

]]> 2017-04-06 15:19:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165171707 Evan Celaj https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165172175 In the Greek Myth: Icarus Fell, Icarus a boy who is trying to escape an island comes up with the idea to make wings from wax, feathers, twigs, and strings. He cannot fly close to the sun or else his wings will burn, he also can't fly too low or else he will hit a tree. Icarus accidentally flies to high. Consequently, the wax melts and he falls and drowns.]]> 2017-04-06 15:20:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hefflerw1/btfokyuz0ef2/wish/165172175