GHMQ Retreat 2023 - Endings and Beginnings by Wang Guanghan https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop en-us 2023-06-15 18:22:54 UTC 2023-06-17 07:09:46 UTC hello@padlet.com Embrace Endings, Be Ready for New Beginnings https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597124 recognize that a chapter closing allows a new chapter to begin.. every season has its time. Seek God for the season ahead and trust that He goes before us

Alex]]> 2023-06-16 14:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597124 Regrets about my past leadership decisions and actions. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597423 wl]]> 2023-06-16 14:33:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597423 Wonder if there was more that I could have done, handled differently https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597899 Alex]]> 2023-06-16 14:34:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625597899 The vibe from church that people who leave or quit working in church are not faithful, when it could just be a different season for them https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625598742 Alex]]> 2023-06-16 14:36:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625598742 Travel-lite https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625612343 I think I'm quite oblivious to the happenings within the church, and still quite fresh in the ministry. ]]> 2023-06-16 14:56:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625612343 in-between https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625613757 The in-between is not a time of passive waiting and confusion. It is actually a time to seek God and be empowered by His grace for the new beginning.]]> 2023-06-16 14:59:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625613757 Thinking that I was too strict on my members that pushed them away https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625629083 2023-06-16 15:24:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625629083 Embrace Endings https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625634728 Learn to take time for transitions and endings to sink in and process through feelings before receiving new beginnings.
Bel]]> 2023-06-16 15:34:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625634728 I think I generally can let go pretty easily, so I don’t have any heavy baggage from the past. Also, maybe when I started becoming a leader, it was in “better times” already. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625643708 Cheryl ]]> 2023-06-16 15:53:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625643708 Learning to trust the Lord about what lies ahead. The uncertainties and endless possibilities can be overwhelming at times. But the anchor must be that everything is for the greater good / grander scheme. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625644444 Cheryl]]> 2023-06-16 15:54:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625644444 I don't have any baggages https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625645949 2023-06-16 15:57:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625645949 Embrace Endings https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625646195 - Endings are not necessarily bad and God is in ultimate control eventually of all individual's life even if people chooses to leave 
- Beginnings maybe painful due to the end, but if we are able to embrace the end in the correct light, the beginnings will be in better perspective for a greater good. 
Ming]]> 2023-06-16 15:58:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625646195 Why so liddat https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625646423 People who leave church and the faith without any closure with church or MIA after years of discipleship

JO]]> 2023-06-16 15:59:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625646423 Seasons change. But God is still in the changes with us. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625647438 2023-06-16 16:01:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625647438 The tendency to try and identify why or whose fault it is, when people move or leave https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625647894 Jon]]> 2023-06-16 16:02:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625647894 Trust the process https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625648852 Trusting God with the season ahead even when I can’t see what’s ahead for some areas in ministry. The "in-between" while waiting for the new beginning or to see breakthrough for members is really the difficult and painful part.

But learning to trust the one in the highs and lows in ministry with me and claiming endings are an opportunity for something new. 

Jo

]]> 2023-06-16 16:05:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625648852 Endings as part of God’s spiritual formation toolkit https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649453 To intentionally seek the Lord on what He is doing in the transition between seasons.

Jon]]> 2023-06-16 16:06:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649453 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649598 1) Past stand points vs. Present stand points
E.g. BGR Guidelines/G12 Vision/Culture/YoutNet 
(Not entirely a baggage but the difference since yesteryears does make it confusing to lead at times)
- Ming 


]]> 2023-06-16 16:06:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649598 Not so much of baggages but rather more of learning how to manage relationship with pple in church. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649649 2023-06-16 16:06:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625649649 Seek Him https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625656553 Don't look at endings negatively, but seek God to understand the seasons / things He wants to do in my life, and ask Him to prepare me for the new beginnings, to walk in tandem with Him.

Min]]> 2023-06-16 16:20:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625656553 Member who left on a bad note.. somewhat regret for my decision... https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625658567 2023-06-16 16:24:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625658567 Past and now https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625659688 I probably wouldn't call it a baggage, but sometimes i think i need to let go of the past glories of the ministry that I grew up in as a youth. Those were great memories, but I shouldn't hold on to those as a standard for comparison, but to look at the now and what God is building in our church.

Min]]> 2023-06-16 16:26:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625659688 Change in perspective..People who choose to leave church does not always mean there is anything wrong with the church or anything wrong with the person..but it could be God is bringing them to a new season.. a new beginning.. Ultimately, always trust God in the process. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625661367 2023-06-16 16:30:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625661367 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625661509 Idea of leaving youth-net, leaders stepping down, change church/cell - like leaving family, abandon/离家出走 -ky ]]> 2023-06-16 16:30:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625661509 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625662474 Recognize, embrace and celebrate ending, learn how to behave in order to embrace ending, even when ending is not expected/ideal. -Ky]]> 2023-06-16 16:32:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625662474 To trust God for His blessings and leading when we receive new beginnings. The start may not be easy but just con't to walk along and know that it is God who is in charge. https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625663643
Qw]]> 2023-06-16 16:34:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625663643 No bags to check in MsJoelle https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625667676 Not much of a baggage for now, but will definitely miss the people and friendships of those who have parted ways at times, especially those whom I was closer to. I have learnt to let go and travel light in my journey with God, including past hurts and disappointments. Thankful of all the people I have encountered, they have helped to shape me in one way or another. 

Joelle]]> 2023-06-16 16:42:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625667676 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625669795 I don't really have much now, but during the session, I was reminded of a past hurt from a member. I'll be meeting her at a celebration soon and I felt dread at the thought of seeing her again. - Elaine]]> 2023-06-16 16:47:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625669795 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625672712 To change my perspective of endings as failures and to trust the process. With death comes forth new beginnings! - Elaine]]> 2023-06-16 16:54:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625672712 Death is a necessary prelude to resurrection https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625673855 To let go of the past and strain on towards what is ahead. - wl]]> 2023-06-16 16:56:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625673855 Trust, Pray and Hope MsJoelle https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625678869 I agree with the quote that "Change is the only constant in life". I will continue to trust God wherever He leads me, knowing that God's Way is higher than my way. Pray that I will have the courage to step out in faith to do His Will, have the peace to embrace changes or my inability to effect certain changes. Place my hope in God that He will continue to be the anchore of my life and direct my path. When I'm in doubt or low spirit, He will lift me up and see me through the seasons of my life. 

舍得：有舍才有得

When we learn to let go (embrace endings), then we will be able to receive (new beginnings). 

Although there are fears towards the unknown, I look forward to a new beginning. Excited to see God's Hand at work when we choose to trust and obey.

Joelle]]> 2023-06-16 17:08:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625678869 Betrayal https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625687438 Peeps who leave, are betraying your trust in them.
They should rough it out
Kenny]]> 2023-06-16 17:28:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625687438 Moving to new phase is beautiful https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625688173 I need to learn to prep peeps and myself to embrace the new. Dun get stuck in Egypt but look at the promise land.

So....ya next lap is God's promise land for me!

Kenny]]> 2023-06-16 17:29:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625688173 No Relationship is permanent https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625705677 Holding relationships lightly since no relationship is permanent apart from my relationship with God. Unwilling to build deep relationships, poor consolidation.

- Candy]]> 2023-06-16 18:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625705677 There is a season for everything https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625706728 To know there is a season for everything, that transitions are not the end of a relationship, nor is due to failure of members or leader.

Receive new beginnings and not the be satisfied with the status quo/comfort zone.

Candy]]> 2023-06-16 18:13:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625706728 Not grieving well https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625724788 As pastors and leaders in church, we experience a large number of losses due to our unique position in church. It is easy to cover over the losses and become unaware of how they shape our relationships and leadership. It’s tremendously difficult for me to go through many of these moments in church. A whole tribe of people that I came to know as a young christian left church and I was transited to a new community. Multiple cell transitions followed after also meant that I did not have deep friendships with anyone for many years.It could well be that there wasn’t a mature community around me to process and grieve together much. And it becomes a baggage for many years that I gradually find closure with. 
  • MC
]]> 2023-06-16 19:01:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625724788 Embracing my humanity and Take up the cross https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625726510 This season I am allowing myself to grieve well over the losses especially in terms of relationship in this transition. The process of grieving is deeply felt through the last few weeks of denial, anger, depression, bargaining and acceptance. But in the confusing in-between, it’s a real mess of a roadmap with the ups and down of emotions. 

Job lost his health, wealth and family in one day. But for most of us, we experience losses over a lifetime. It is part of our humanity and In the midst of the ambiguous and seeking meaning, I am choosing to pay attention to the pain that i am feeling in order to grieve well and allow God to enlarge my soul. It is important to remind myself that I am a human being, not a “human doing”.  

and then choosing to trust God and to take up the cross, for I know it prepares me and those around me for resurrection. 
- MC
]]> 2023-06-16 19:07:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625726510 Too many leadership changes https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625803143 I went through several painful transitions when my ex-cell leaders and pastors left. First one when almost entire team of cell supervisors left following departure of an influential NUS pastor (Kay Chong). Another major transition came 9 years later when both pastors left abruptly (Hee Guan and Shufang). There was betrayal when God gave me a dream thereafter that showed me how my ex-pastor plotted. It took me years to get over it thru a very funny episode. I laosai very badly whilst crossing over JB. I was dreading to go for BB retreat as Hee Guan was the invited trainer. My body was reacting badly to that session. When I arrived, I looked for a BB mentor to pray for me. God purged me spiritually, emotionally (and physically) of the betrayal. Now I still have some phobias about leadership changes. 

Vince]]> 2023-06-17 00:04:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625803143 To be honest about feelings and the way G12 could have been wrongly interpreted and executed https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625807633 I learnt to be honest about my feelings with regards to transitions.

Also, I feel we got to be honest about what we have done wrong as leaders and as a church collectively - Eg. The way we have branded those who left as traitors, not loyal, the way we have interpreted and executed the G12 vision and how it could have affected relationships across cells, tribes and teams，and also how tight we are on BGR, and if we could have created unknowingly a supra-structure whereby the decision of leader trumps over the guidance of the Holy Spirit in each believer's walk. This has great impact on member's life eg. not being heard or understood, not being able to hear and trust God's voice, too much groupthink. 

If we are not willing to be honest about what has gone wrong in the past in the way G12 has affected us as a church，we might face hard challenges in moving forward. 

Vince]]> 2023-06-17 00:22:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625807633 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625828319 I don’t know if it’s baggages, I am not ok with people who leave church without proper closure. Even when it’s non-spiritual sense, there are also proper closure. 

Dy]]> 2023-06-17 01:35:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625828319 https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625830129 To embrace new beginnings. Surely will receive but also need to trust the process and embrace them. 

Dy]]> 2023-06-17 01:42:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625830129 Past baggages - no issue alrdy https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625833728 - Ppl who left, peers and members
- Extreme discipleship]]> 2023-06-17 01:53:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625833728 Past baggages https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625833879 - Ppl who left, peers and members
- Extreme discipleship

DRK]]> 2023-06-17 01:54:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625833879 Embrace the End https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625835410 - Trust in God's timing and season
- Allow God to close the chapter and let go

Receive New Beginning
- Anticipate and be open on where God is leading for the future

DRK

]]> 2023-06-17 01:59:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625835410 Embrace the End https://padlet.com/ongkwanghuang/bs03oj8xv6qhkuop/wish/2625835563 - Trust in God's timing and season
- Allow God to close the chapter and let go

Receive New Beginning
- Anticipate and be open on where God is leading for the future

DRK

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