https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu Do you agree or disagree with the authors when they state that no nation has perfectly achieved complete substantive democracy? Explain why you agree or disagree. en-us 2018-02-04 18:31:26 UTC 2020-07-14 20:16:29 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228193451 I don't believe any country has accomplished a perfect Democracy. Every country has at least a few problems with equality and/or fairness, keeping them from an "ideal" democracy]]> 2018-02-05 16:16:22 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228193451 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228226111 I do not think that any nation has achieved a perfect democracy. No country is perfect. Some countries have limits on personal freedoms/civil liberties, participation in government, or do not have equal treatment of minorities, which are qualities of substantive democracies.]]> 2018-02-05 17:05:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228226111 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228227292 Yes I agree with the authors that no nation has perfectly achieved a complete democracy. There is no nation that can completely represent the will of the people without a minority going unrepresented. In a system where the majority rules 49% of the population go unhappy.]]> 2018-02-05 17:07:05 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228227292 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228229965 I do agree with the authors in their claim that no country has achieved complete or perfect substantive democracy. No one country let's all of their citizens have a vote or have a say in their government, even the US. No one country gives all of their citizens their civil rights and liberties. However, there may never be a 100% perfect substantive democracy. ]]> 2018-02-05 17:11:08 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228229965 lummirac000 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228233387 I agree with the authors because no country has implemented a perfect democracy. No country allows all of their citizens to have proper say in their government or 100% freedom. (in reference to everyone having the complete freedom of their civil liberties) I doubt that there will ever be a country that will achieve a perfect democracy. ]]> 2018-02-05 17:16:46 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228233387 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228244116 I agree that no country has reached true democracy. Many countries still have troubles dealing with power struggles that forces governmental action and don't always consult the people. Plus, "true democracy" is a direct democracy, and most democracies don't even function in that manner.]]> 2018-02-05 17:33:19 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228244116 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228342588 I agree with the authors of the Democratization briefing in their statement that no country has achieved true democracy, because while all citizens are allowed to vote, civil liberties of minorities and anyone that is not the rich are infringed upon. In most developed countries with free elections, only people with money and influence can run in elections and win. It is almost a pseudo-oligarchy that does not give every citizen an equal say in their own government.]]> 2018-02-05 20:23:12 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228342588 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228344036 I agree that no nation has yet achieved a complete substantive democracy. No matter where you are there will always be people who have been systematically disaffected. (take discriminatory voter ID laws for example) and there will always be a certain amount of corruption in any type of government. ]]> 2018-02-05 20:26:37 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228344036 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228409439 I agree that no country has achieved a perfect substantive democracy, because some minority groups are still underrepresented sue to systematic discrimination, and many representatives are bought out by just a few ultra-rich interest groups, so they don't necessarily represent the will of the people.]]> 2018-02-06 01:25:15 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228409439 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228411836 I agree with the authors of the briefing paper that no country has yet reached a perfect democracy. Every country has a couple problems whether it be equality or fairness etc. This keeps each country from being a perfect democracy. ]]> 2018-02-06 01:40:43 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228411836 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228418028 I agree with the paper in saying that no country has achieved a perfect substantive democracy. Every example of a country that has a democracy will also contain a flaw or societal shift from the proper functioning system of a democracy. I believe human nature will always spawn corruption to hinder the abilities to perfect leadership in any form, democracies being no exception. ]]> 2018-02-06 02:25:08 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228418028 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228418852 I agree; a true substantive democracy has not yet been achieved. There will likely always be flaws within the government. For example, equal treatment of minorities in particular is still a major issue. Minorities are often underrepresented or even ignored, leading to favoring of the majority.]]> 2018-02-06 02:31:11 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228418852 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228419842 I agree that no country has achieved a perfect substantive democracy, and doubt that any government will acquire one in the future. Blurred lines and mixed interpretations of the definition of true democracy prevent countries from fulfilling those roles. There are also disparities in civil liberties among different groups and major corruption in voting systems (such as gerrymandering). Countries of increasing populations with dissenting opinions make "perfect democracies" increasingly more impossible.]]> 2018-02-06 02:37:59 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228419842 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228424361 I do agree that no nation has achieved true democracy because "true democracy" is merely a textbook definition. Most countries have fair elections but some most are overrun with corruption or the elected take away freedoms. In addition, actually implementing laws for equality is complicated because of risking political support from citizens. There is always a trend that when progression arises so does conservationism (ex. Civil Rights era then Reagan, Obama and then Trump).
Another problem is political socialization and political efficacy. With socialization, people who are privileged don't see the inequalities that still exist so it is important to educate about social issues. With efficacy, many people who may be democratic in a historically red state will not vote because they believe that their vote means nothing and the government doesn't care. The biggest proof of this was the Alabama senate race that showed when more minorities were encouraged to vote (and most are Democrats), they flipped the seat to a Democrat. ]]> 2018-02-06 03:08:23 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228424361 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228425086 I agree that no country has ever achieved a perfect substantive democracy. No country has the ability to ensure perfect equality and fairness and that a government will never infringe upon the rights of its citizens in any manner in any event.

]]> 2018-02-06 03:13:11 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228425086 proctpai000 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228429979 I agree that no nation has perfectly achieved a complete substantive democracy. While many countries have successfully carried out many aspects of a substantive democracy, all face challenges in the full implementation of a substantive democracy. I believe that it is highly unlikely that a complete substantive democracy will ever be efficiently executed, as all countries experience flaws and changes throughout time that require a constant adaptation of government.

]]> 2018-02-06 03:47:31 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228429979 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228436734 I agree that no nation has achieved complete substantive democracy. This is because some democracies limit the amount of civil or political rights of their country while still maintaining the label of democracy. Also no country has achieved a complete substantive democracy because no matter what not all of the people’s opinions can be represented and carried out in the government.]]> 2018-02-06 04:33:47 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/228436734 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/233825121 I agree that no nation has achieved complete substantive democracy. In many cases not all the voices are heard or represented in a true democracy.  As much as people think it will happen, the chance is very slim.]]> 2018-02-21 16:19:20 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/233825121 https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/244335674 I agree with the author that no country has ever achieved a "perfect democracy". No country in world history was perfect, every country had flaws. Some countries have limits and restrictions on what citizens can do. Every country will have some sort of corruption or desire by a person or a group to have more power than everyone else ]]> 2018-03-21 01:46:08 UTC https://padlet.com/dhoppe/bo09r0a2dufu/wish/244335674