https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl en-us 2019-12-04 03:31:22 UTC 2019-12-10 02:40:53 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420307997 that people can and should not be classified as insane by a centralized system]]> 2019-12-05 16:15:44 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420307997 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309627 I have worked really hard on a paper and I didn't do well on it and I thought I did.  I can connect to my testings skills to where I can use them. Some of the leaders are the dictators.
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Tests sometimes don't display the truth about a person]]> 2019-12-05 16:17:44 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309775 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309874 I've taken standardized tests]]> 2019-12-05 16:17:51 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309874 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309906 Something might sound great and look great on paper but when you apply this to real life it might not be as amazing as it sounded]]> 2019-12-05 16:17:54 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309906 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309915 i thought it might be criticizing how if all you're doing is searching for happiness, you'll never be happy. be happy now. also when you hold things together for too long and don't address problems it's easy to break. scores make people feel like all they are is a number.]]> 2019-12-05 16:17:54 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420309915 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310018 From SQ i thought that it was partly criticizing the inaccurate way of figuring out a persons intelligence by using standardized testing. This relates to my world because I do not thing a test is a good way to evaluate a students intelligence.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:02 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310018 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310100 when Dr. speakie goes completely insane by the end of the story, i kind of related to that because some things that i've worked incredibly hard i've ended up being completely unsatisfied with even if i completely go through with what i was working on and really try, and for me i feel almost bad about it even if logically i do pretty well in the subject]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:08 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310100 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310123 We shouldn't be ashamed of the word 'asylum'. It should be a word used with pride instead of shame because it is a place where people with mental health problems are able to get the help they need. You shouldn't feel ashamed of your mental health needs.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:10 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310123 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310134 the imprisonment of the "Insane" people in the text reminds me of slavery in real life.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:10 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310134 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310152 2019-12-05 16:18:12 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310152 586512 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310184 tests dont display everything about a person- the system isn't always right]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:14 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310184 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310209 I made a connection between Dr. Speakie and Hitler (the Test and the Holocaust) that got stronger as I kept reading. "Therapy" = trying to create a perfect race?]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:16 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310209 484773 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310216 A connection to the story is the use of standardized testing for the assessment of knowledge. It is different in the story, but also shows how standardized testing could cause those who score lower to feel worse about themselves.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:17 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310216 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310338 I did not understand the story and it was confusing and that relates to me and the story ]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:26 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310338 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310398 I connected it with standardized tests that may not e completely accurate to someones intelligence.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:31 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310398 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310400 I see this as something might not be as good as it sounds or is made up to be. Lack of freedom in the book is like lack of freedom in the education system.]]> 2019-12-05 16:18:31 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310400 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310449 2019-12-05 16:18:35 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420310449 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420312648 2019-12-05 16:21:12 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420312648 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315513 Well i feel like the author is trying to criticize people who judge people based on how sane they are as well, but when there are people who are insane enough, they can lose it, and hurt people.]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:40 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315513 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315524 i don't agree with the idea that people can have a test that accuratly represents their mental state. a mindset is fluid in the sense of when you are angry, you usually lose some self control and might say or do something you regret later, but when you are in bed you are in a very calm mindset usually and have usually full control of what you are doing. if you take the test on a bad day you might have a higher score than if you take it on a good day because you have a different mindset]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:40 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315524 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315540 I do not agree with some of the stuff in the story]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:41 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315540 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315588 I do not agree with the overall standard testing that is supposed to determine whether or not a person is sane/insane.]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:44 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315588 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315598 There is no such thing as "normal."]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:45 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315598 484773 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315599 I challenge the humor that the author uses in the text. It is ironic humor, and often makes the reader question if the issue at hand is important and relevant.]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:45 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315599 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315608 I don't agree with the idea of one person creating a test that everyone must pass in order to not be held up. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:47 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315608 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315621 I think that judging other people and separating them based on their score is okay because that can lead to segregation. kind of wack.]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:48 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315621 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315659 What's the alternative measuring stick?]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:50 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315659 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315736 A grade on a test shouldn't relate to someone's sanity. A test is a in the moment thing and mental health is forever. It is constantly changing depending on how your life goes and which route it takes.]]> 2019-12-05 16:24:56 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315736 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315846 I do not agree with most standardize testing and I don;t agree how it relates to someones intelligence just off a test. There is no such thing as someone being normal and perfect in today's society. This has challenged me to where I don't understand some of the tests.]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:06 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315846 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315859 I do not agree with the tests because I feel like a test does not determine if you are sane]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:07 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315859 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315873 the separation of people based on their score]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:08 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315873 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315947 I don't think that there can be a standard for what is insane and sane because the only person in the story to actually seen insane is Dr. Speakie by the end but it is something that is more based off of opinion. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:13 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315947 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315950 I do not agree with the standardized testing used in this story because there isn't necessarily such thing as normal and everybody is different.]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:13 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420315950 586512 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316012 I don't think the standardize test can truly measure the insanity and sanity of a person ]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:18 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316012 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316086 That a test can measure how sane or insane a person can be based on a test]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:24 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316086 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316149 I don't agree with the use of the tests because other people can't judge on your level of sanity.]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:28 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316149 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316218 should we be focusing on mental health so much. people aren't numbers. people fluctuate and how they're treated directly influences how they think of themselves so it's easy to spiral i guess. people can't be put in a box like that, things are much more complicated]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:33 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316218 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316535 i value the fact that this story shows that everyone including the people who are dictating whether or not we are "sane" can also be considered insane, its kind of emphasizing the idea that in the end we are all just humans]]> 2019-12-05 16:25:59 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420316535 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318512 2019-12-05 16:28:32 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318512 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318524 2019-12-05 16:28:33 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318524 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318575 2019-12-05 16:28:37 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318575 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318617 2019-12-05 16:28:42 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420318617 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420320961 2019-12-05 16:31:52 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420320961 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321148 not everyone operates the same, there's no perfect system]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:09 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321148 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321171 A huge main concept would be that decisions regarding the rest of people's lives shouldn't be based off of what a test says, tests can be fluked, and it truly depends on the person's mood especially in the case of the book.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:10 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321171 484773 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321177 The concept that technology will be a major role in our future is something important that we need to keep in mind. This concept also involves the idea of Nature vs Technology]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:11 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321177 586512 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321189 two people who had the highest power in controlling this system both tested higher than 50 and had to be taken to the asylum when one of them was the one who created this system and both had high power in it ]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:12 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321189 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321193 Insanity through tests]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:12 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321193 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321194 I valued the way the author made everything seem normal when it was actually crazy. Like the "United States of the World" and some other things that didn't make sense in this story where portrayed like they should make sense. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:12 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321194 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321205 the fact that the people in charge were tested to be insane.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:13 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321205 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321215 Mental health was seen as important but because it was pushed into one category it made it difficult to actually be able to understand if someone was stable or not. You can't judge someones mental state because its always changing and its not the same for everyone and it is always changing.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:14 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321215 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321222 That this type of standardized testing shouldn't just determine someone's sanity, at the end the story shows how sanity can change and that it is affected by many different things.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321222 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321232 I valued that people shouldn't be categorized on standardized testing. I liked the phrase "Nixon was insane and all the world leaders were insane and the arms race was insane and our misuse of natural resources was insane and the whole word civilization was insane and suicidal. They were always saying that."]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321232 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321251 Sanity and mental health shouldn't be put in a box. There is no way to define what is "sane," what is "insane;" what is mental health? What is "normal?" Life is intense, stressful, up and down - based on who we are and where we are in life, we would all score differently on the Test. Mental health is important, but there is no "perfect" way to exist in the world.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321251 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321256 A concept from SQ that I took away is the idea that we should not determine a persons intelligence from a standardized test.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321256 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321261 i valued the ending when he went insane. it shows that incredibly succesful people are still people regardless of what goes on in their life and what they accomplish. they still work like normal people emotionally but the stress of creating a standard for yourself and sticking to it when you are succesful can be devistating to a person]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321261 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321264 the people and the writing style ]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321264 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321282 People shouldn't be separated into certain groups based on the characteristics and how are the people that decide those groups qualified to do so.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:19 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321282 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321291 the one judging the "insane" was the truly insane one. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:20 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321291 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321430 It seems like the successful people in the story went insane, and I feel like that happened because of their positions in power. People who are higher in power sometimes become obsessed with keeping their position and the stress of work becomes the very thing that makes them insane.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:31 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321430 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321480 Mental health is something that is constantly changing and you shouldn't label someone by their sanity.]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:35 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321480 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321581 How this test became a priority for everyone]]> 2019-12-05 16:32:42 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321581 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321882 maybe trying to portray how we deal w/mental health issues and how serious it is

]]> 2019-12-05 16:33:07 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420321882 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420322200 2019-12-05 16:33:33 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420322200 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327114 in the end i think people need to focus on themselves before trying to take on responsibility of mental health of others. there is no perfect system and people can't be put in a box or labeled]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:50 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327114 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327132 i took that the idea of sane and insane are very fluid concepts that cannot really be judged by tests because it can change so drastically and quickly depending on the day or position you are in]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:51 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327132 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327133 The text sort of almost promotes the concept of a "perfect society" or the want for it by seeing that the "mentally insane" are kept locked away as the government 'rehabilitates' them.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:51 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327133 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327134 This text is promoting the idea that there shouldn't just be a big standardized test that evaluates everybody because it may not be completely accurate. It also showed how this could harm society because by the end of the story the world had completely changed and almost everybody was in an asylum.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:52 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327134 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327137 This text wants the change that people don't try to get perfection. Perfection is not possible to achieve, and in trying, you would probably end up in a world like this, or the giver, or the handicapped world, people can't be the same, people can't be completely sane, and people can't be uneducated and happy.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:52 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327137 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327146 The getting rid of the "insane" people when really is like getting rid of the most interesting part in the world]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:52 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327146 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327165 The change that this text is promoting change and how we shouldn't be together and there should be individualism and there should be division. I think a challenge would be getting rid of the "insane people when there isn't  enough places to take them. Dr. Speakie said that everything might not always be "perfect" or "normal" and this strives to perfection.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:54 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327165 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327184 The author is trying to promote change in the idea that people need to be a certain way to not be separated from others. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:55 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327184 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327185 promote different things]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:55 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327185 586512 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327192 that we should not judge people off their sanity and insanity and separating the two won't help. everyone has some crazy in them]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327192 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327201 I took that we shouldn't try to evaluate everyone in the way that Dr. Speakie did, and that everything might not always be as amazing as it seems. ]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327201 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327204 Sq is trying to change our current use of standardized testing to determine the intelligence of people.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327204 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327207 promotes individualism]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327207 484773 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327234 This text is promoting the ideology of being aware and prepared for the future. By using humor, the author causes the reader to infer that the future could turn out very bad, especially with the rise of technology.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:58 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327234 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327239 I think that it is trying to criticize the standardized tests that we take in school by showing it in a more dramatic way, using your sanity instead of intelligence ]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:58 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327239 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327243 It is trying to show that forcing people into categories isn't a solution to anything at all. We are all individuals with different personalities and values. We shouldn't shun those that are different because we are all different no matter what.]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:59 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327243 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327253 You can't put people in a box because people are always changing and society is changing which makes the norm change. Don't judge people based off of the way they think]]> 2019-12-05 16:39:59 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327253 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327272 don't judge people off of their differences]]> 2019-12-05 16:40:01 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327272 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327294 SQ is showing how a dystopia can come from trying to build a utopia. We have to accept differences and changes in people because these things are inevitable.]]> 2019-12-05 16:40:03 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420327294 https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420328082 this text promotes the idea that categorizing people ends in chaos]]> 2019-12-05 16:41:04 UTC https://padlet.com/annausti/bge2wtflcwjl/wish/420328082