ETS Strategy comments - trainers by Domagoj Morić https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp en-us 2021-05-05 17:39:17 UTC 2021-05-11 12:52:56 UTC hello@padlet.com UTOPIC IDEAS, LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THEM AND EVEN ENCOURAGE THEM :-) arus_work https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512968950 (c) Anna Y.]]> 2021-05-11 12:17:22 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512968950 Coherence and strategic direction researchyouth https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512974217 2021-05-11 12:19:04 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512974217 Makes clearer the meaning of quality in youth work/training salvigreco https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512974780 2021-05-11 12:19:16 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512974780 Implementation sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975274 Any details about the implementation planning (timeline)? Any action plan(s) from SALTO T&C? How about support for other stakeholders? ]]> 2021-05-11 12:19:26 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975274 NAs not willing to embrace it laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975426 because it's "not complient with their national rules" :) ]]> 2021-05-11 12:19:29 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975426 Some strategy beetwen the different actors (NA, SALTO, Trainers, Youth workers). Agencia_Erasmus https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975766 2021-05-11 12:19:36 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512975766 Quality label to certain training courses laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977078 2021-05-11 12:20:02 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977078 Clear connection of some course to the competences of trainers or youth workers laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977721 2021-05-11 12:20:15 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977721 Staying inside an exclusive SALTO bubble rather than a wider network of youth training networks and practitioners researchyouth https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977937 2021-05-11 12:20:19 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512977937 Accreditation can give recognition to trainers investing in their proffesional development laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512978549 2021-05-11 12:20:32 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512978549 Commitment to accessible tools baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979347 Responding to the needs of different stakeholders (NAs, youth workers, organisations) of how to engage with the CMs, how to promote them, ow to validate competences based on them. 

]]> 2021-05-11 12:20:48 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979347 FInd it hard to decide which contributions from the "community of practice to accept and promote on the European level (and which not) laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979759 2021-05-11 12:20:58 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979759 How much institutional actors are actually going to engage in making the strategy come true? https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979985 NAs are on some aspect a big question mark and a potentially weak link in the process. What steps could be taken to enhance this engagement?]]> 2021-05-11 12:21:02 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512979985 communication to make the ETS accessible - bring it out from a few "quality circles" salvigreco https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512981041 2021-05-11 12:21:24 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512981041 The balance between "investing to trainers/youth workers" and "better conditions for trainers/youth workers" laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512982637 2021-05-11 12:21:55 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512982637 Happy to prototype, but we need to be smart about it and not waste our time. Some things indeed depend completely on political will being established first. arus_work https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512982858 2021-05-11 12:22:00 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512982858 Implementation Work Plans are not co-created. sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512985096 2021-05-11 12:22:42 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512985096 Digital Competences still missing https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512986910 - An explicit mention of digital competences (outside of sporadically having a digital aspect in existing areas) is missing. It was missing beforehand, but the need is even more pronounced after a year of pandemic-forced changes. Some of us would support it as a separate competence area altogether.
- Tools/methods/support assisting the trainers in developing such competences further are also missing from ETS.]]> 2021-05-11 12:23:14 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512986910 Handling the inclusion of "community of practive" laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512989254 Some might feel not enough involved. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:23:48 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512989254 Supporting dialogue about the competences baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991159 Things are changing fast and there is a need to keep being in conversations with youth workers and trainers and keep investing in the development of the CMs. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:24:24 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991159 Recognition of online training and learning is still limited (and even if the Programme Guild says online learning is important, there are no resources allocated to it). https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991459 2021-05-11 12:24:29 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991459 connection to formal education? arus_work https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991677 Anchorage with universities and universities of applied sience where social workers/youthworkers/community workers are educated]]> 2021-05-11 12:24:33 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991677 Online Training ad Learning is still limited (looking at the EU programs) sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991869 Especially in the applications this is missing recognition]]> 2021-05-11 12:24:37 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512991869 Sustainability of what will be created laimonas_r https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512993567 The risk of not being able to sustain all created concepts, accreditation system, monitoring tools. A bit what happened with TOY - it was well used by NAs at a start and then forgotten. Now NAs have hundreds of different ways how trainers should apply for training. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:25:08 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512993567 Trainers' pools baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512995330 Support to the NAs in seeing pools as a partner and seeing the value of the pools.
Develop them more as HUBs for intervision, growing, etc. rather than exclusive pools. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:25:38 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512995330 SALTO RCs could also voice the needs of the micro level (organization) , ex. the shortcoming in the application process. https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512995422 2021-05-11 12:25:40 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1512995422 More tailored and advanced trainings for the experienced trainers. https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513000941 2021-05-11 12:27:23 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513000941 Tools and best practices for sharing https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513001857 Various ways to promote ETS and its implementation and spread the word in a more organised manner.]]> 2021-05-11 12:27:39 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513001857 Anchorage on communal level https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513002424 Youth work is taking place on local/communal level, in youth clubs, centers etc by highly overworked social/youth workers. How to connect to them? Language, time, ressources?]]> 2021-05-11 12:27:48 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513002424 Stronger push toward a partenrship based cross sectorial "contamination" https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513004095 Finding ways to bring together formal and non formal sectors of education  in ways that can benefit both without turning the non formal into the "small fish".

]]> 2021-05-11 12:28:18 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513004095 Recognising trainers as partners baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513006362 We appreciate it a lot and look forward to seeing this partnership grow. 
And recognising learning journey and commitment to development rather than performance levels. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:28:59 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513006362 No or not enough transparent and honest involvement of stakeholders roboflions https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513010733 2021-05-11 12:30:19 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513010733 Recognition systems baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513012609 Who recognises and how? 

]]> 2021-05-11 12:30:50 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513012609 Lack of external recognition of the certification roboflions https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513013352 2021-05-11 12:31:04 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513013352 Lack of transparent + honest involvement of stakeholders sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513017065 2021-05-11 12:32:13 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513017065 Think about different approaches to the work of trainers: not only "implement" work package, but also "initiate/conceptualise" packages, or team applications when there is a call for more than one trainer. https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513020952 2021-05-11 12:33:22 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513020952 4 stakeholders (NA's, SALTO, trainers, youth workers)... roboflions https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513022187 Where is youth? They are the benificiairies and should be included (in the overview and in our minds)]]> 2021-05-11 12:33:41 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513022187 Not capitalising on initiatives developed in the field baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513022804 Due to institutional restrictions now using more approaches, tools, initiatives developed in the field. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:33:53 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513022804 Monitoring is not clear: Accountability? Responsibility? sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513025988 2021-05-11 12:34:45 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513025988 Lack of structural contact with the grassroot level baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513028012 How to understand the needs when there is no contact with the actual needs in the field. 
Risking to create the elite in the international training field. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513028012 Agile perspective to the field roboflions https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513028061 It is not set in stone :)]]> 2021-05-11 12:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513028061 Very good start to involve stakeholders and the intention to have an impact! - Ownership of stakeholders will grow! sabrina_apitz https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513030767 2021-05-11 12:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513030767 Links created baclijas https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513032282 Overall between the ETS and the Youth Goals and the EYW Agenda. ]]> 2021-05-11 12:36:29 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513032282 include wordings such as "co-creation", ownership etc ... arus_work https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513090808 2021-05-11 12:52:04 UTC https://padlet.com/domagoj_moric/b3n6grda548kumrp/wish/1513090808