MDTP Training by Molly McLaughlin https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb Questions in YELLOW have a response. Questions in RED are those we still need to answer. Use the upvote (thumbs up) setting on each post if you agree or have the same question. en-us 2020-09-16 18:31:13 UTC 2020-10-12 03:40:38 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-uploads.storage.googleapis.com/732424572/f2f30681f7a57a28e7d50b92b19f8939/Images_for_MDTP__1_.jpg MDTP olivia_mcguigan https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761382143 It seems like you can see more specific results than NWEA. Such as for each question, percentage of students that picked certain answers (and who picked which answer). Students all get the same questions, unlike NWEA. They also have the choice to omit questions (I see this as a good and bad thing). For Math 8, we would access their preparedness for math 8 the first two testing session and then their preparedness for Math 1 in the final session. The test is usually 1 class period, but they were recommending possibly having a Zoom session open for 2 hours while proctoring (not sure how that would work out). Students have to be added to classes on the site before testing can be begun. Students need to have unique ID numbers to access the test (so student ID numbers?). This seems like it will take a lot of time from the small amount of class time we already have...although I do understand it gives data to both the teacher and district to use to inform instruction. ]]> 2020-09-19 23:13:19 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761382143 Adding Students olivia_mcguigan https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761387000 Will teachers have to adjust students that get added to our courses and dropped? Or will the district do that?]]> 2020-09-19 23:23:10 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761387000 MDTP Logistics olivia_mcguigan https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761404143 In the video, they once again suggest to give students 2 hours to take the test (even though they said they usually can do it in 45-50 minutes). There is a tutorial video we can share with students. Expect it brought up how students need to have stable internet to take the test..(I have a number of students that struggle being on Zoom and doing another task with their internet set-up so I am not sure how that will work with this test). Students aren't suppose to use a calculator but do need scratch paper. It was recommended to close test sessions so students can't continue on their own, and then just proctor it again in the next class meeting. The website had a variety of supports to help teachers with getting everything set-up. It will be time consuming at first...]]> 2020-09-19 23:59:17 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761404143 Logistic Questions olivia_mcguigan https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761406136 What is our district's expectation for how much time should be allotted for students to take the test?

For students that don't finish in that allotted time or were absent, what is the protocol?

]]> 2020-09-20 00:03:45 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/761406136 I'm hoping we will have time to review the results with each student one on one. I would like that time to be part of this. I am happy to see that they can skip questions, but now all the time we spent telling students to "try" or guess when they don't get it will have to be changed. As a student this will be frustrating. juliaash1 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762169724 2020-09-20 17:10:00 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762169724 If they exit the test without saving will it save their spot? I'm concerned about computers dying, or internet dropping them. juliaash1 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762186754 2020-09-20 17:29:04 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762186754 Will the case managers be added to this also? It would be valuable information for them. juliaash1 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762196293 2020-09-20 17:37:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762196293 Do we have our login and passwords yet? juliaash1 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762203813 2020-09-20 17:46:01 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762203813 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762209902 How should me monitor testing? Students have cell phones at home and can potentially look up answers]]> 2020-09-20 17:52:41 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762209902 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762211335 Is this replacing NWEA?
Is it recommended/required that we test 3 times a year? (District mandated?)]]> 2020-09-20 17:54:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762211335 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762263112 Can/should we allow students to get out of the zoom call once the test has started?]]> 2020-09-20 18:48:42 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762263112 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762263758 Since our class periods are 80 minutes long, should we give them one class period or break it up over 2 days? 
What should we do if a student is not there on the day we take the test?]]> 2020-09-20 18:49:24 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/762263758 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/778083785 Will the district be adding students to our accounts or are teachers expected to do this?]]> 2020-09-25 01:55:35 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/778083785 Will we be using this test in future years or going back to NWEA? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/780421062 2020-09-25 18:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/780421062 How will we use the data to modify instruction? We have lost time last year, we are moving at a slower pace this year, and students will have more gaps to start next year. https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/780433719 2020-09-25 18:41:50 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/780433719 Will we be required to test students a certain number of times a year? cecilialopez11 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781654909 2020-09-26 19:42:27 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781654909 How long until we get test's results? cecilialopez11 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781655701 2020-09-26 19:43:33 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781655701 Video #2 answered questions I had form previous video. cecilialopez11 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781730433 Should we recommend students to save their answers often in case of power or internet outage?]]> 2020-09-26 21:41:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781730433 MDTP https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781775667 Straight forward with similar results as the NWEA.]]> 2020-09-26 23:09:16 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781775667 MTDP Video 1 - Questions https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781776510 In the video, they suggested having Resources Classes (SPED students, I assumed) take a 6th/7th/8th grade test, even if in high school.  Will we doing that in our district?

The post test results letter that we can email home, it was unclear if it was available in Spanish?   Do we know?


]]> 2020-09-26 23:10:53 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781776510 SB 359 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781801360 If we have a student "ace" their placement test, will that be sufficient to "bump them up" per SB359?]]> 2020-09-27 00:04:57 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781801360 SPED https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781803179 In Video 2, they indicated we can have the DO add a 2nd teacher, like a SPED teacher, to the class so they could review results. Will we be doing that?]]> 2020-09-27 00:09:01 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781803179 Spanish or English Version https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781803616 What should be our criteria to offer the Spanish version of the MDTP?

]]> 2020-09-27 00:10:02 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781803616 Agreements https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781804194 In the video, they refer to 4 handouts. Will those be made available to us?]]> 2020-09-27 00:11:27 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781804194 Results https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781806243 I like the fact that we can see the test items and how students scored on each one, the nwea was more mysterious.

]]> 2020-09-27 00:16:03 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781806243 Remote testing https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781807580 It seems that maybe we do not remain on zoom with students?]]> 2020-09-27 00:18:58 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781807580 lucypostlewaite https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781894520 Better than NWEA. Seems funny to give a placement test when we have minimal options for placements. Data seems better. ]]> 2020-09-27 03:34:44 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781894520 What about the kids who don't take by choice? Many are not doing daily assignments. lucypostlewaite https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781895428 2020-09-27 03:36:23 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781895428 Not sure why we are watching how to load classes if our classes will already be loaded. lucypostlewaite https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781906411 2020-09-27 03:56:51 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781906411 It would be great if the district could send an email to each kid with written directions and what name is their roster. You would think they know their registered name, but many do not. That way we can refer them to something. There will plenty of unanticipated issues and wondering which last name to use is not something we should be dealing with. lucypostlewaite https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781906871 2020-09-27 03:57:43 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781906871 Many kids get kicked out on zoom. I am worried it will be difficult for kids to take this test and be on a zoom session or even have the connection to do the test. If they are dropped, when are they supposed to make up? (And are we staying on zoom? I thought it said no in the first video, but the second it sounded like yes. I may have not heard correctly, but couldn't find when I went back.) lucypostlewaite https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781908706 2020-09-27 04:01:03 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/781908706 Seems better than NWEA! https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782879894 The written response items sound interesting.  I am looking forward to looking through those and potentially using them in my lessons.
Content seems much more aligned to what students need to know than NWEA.


]]> 2020-09-27 23:45:25 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782879894 Time https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782881140 They said 45-50 minutes but my experience with NWEA is that it took twice as long as it was supposed to. Has anyone actually given this to students online and know how long it really takes?]]> 2020-09-27 23:46:42 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782881140 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782914788 Can we pause or restart a test if a student is rushing through it?]]> 2020-09-28 00:16:47 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782914788 Q&A Date? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782916413 Is it October or September 29? I see both of those dates listed in the modules.]]> 2020-09-28 00:17:58 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/782916413 Time tedferguson https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786156036 Do they need to finish during the time that they are allowed?]]> 2020-09-28 23:16:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786156036 stephaniegonzalez5 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786347043 2020-09-29 01:10:28 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786347043 stephaniegonzalez5 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786347399 Will we be using this test in future years ?]]> 2020-09-29 01:10:41 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/786347399 Will we be administering the test more than once during the school year? melissaedsall https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788442696 2020-09-29 15:55:41 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788442696 Loading Students tedferguson https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788615347 Will the classes be preloaded for us]]> 2020-09-29 16:30:33 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788615347 9th grade placement options https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788633342 SB359 sounds like it is in place to prevent students from being 'forced' to repeat coursework... but what about students that are being forced into courses they are not ready for? Example in video was kids forced to repeat Math 8 content in 9th grade. But we only offer Math 1 and above in 9th grade. Will the district evaluate data to see if we need a pre-Math 1 option for students?]]> 2020-09-29 16:34:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788633342 MDTP is a great product https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788639123 I'm glad to see we are using MDTP again. Great product.]]> 2020-09-29 16:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788639123 Number of Times tedferguson https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788642486 How many times are we giving this test]]> 2020-09-29 16:36:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/788642486 brianlee6 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789367973 I liked that it showed which concept students had strengths and weaknesses in. It even showed you how many students omitted certain questions to inform you that they don't know about that topic yet! ]]> 2020-09-29 19:15:43 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789367973 brianlee6 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789371712 Is there an option to test in another language? I'm not sure if that was covered or not, but thinking of EL students...]]> 2020-09-29 19:16:49 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789371712 Seems very similar to NWEA but with immediate results accessible to the teacher. https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789379004 2020-09-29 19:19:07 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789379004 Will there be opportunities for students who are absent or have technology issues to take/retake the test? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789383157 2020-09-29 19:20:25 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789383157 I was unclear on how this is being integrated with Zoom meetings. Specifically, I do not understand if we are proctoring the test through Zoom or as a separate event. https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789385326 2020-09-29 19:21:08 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789385326 How will the test scores be used other than diagnostics? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789386945 2020-09-29 19:21:39 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789386945 Not sure if it was addressed, but what happens if the student's WiFi is compromised or does not work on test day? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789389531 2020-09-29 19:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789389531 Thinking way into the future... for the 21-22 school year are we thinking of offering course work for below grade level for students who really end up with some major holes in their knowledge after the 2020-21 school year? melissaedsall https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789449497 2020-09-29 19:41:11 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789449497 I'm unclear, can they use more than one session to complete the test? melissaedsall https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789470128 2020-09-29 19:47:59 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789470128 Please have help available to teachers when we actually administer the MDTP... I can see there being questions that arise. https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789580290 2020-09-29 20:28:30 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789580290 If our classes are already rostered, do we need to guide students on entering their name or will the students be automatically found by their id number? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789591385 2020-09-29 20:33:02 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789591385 Looks great! tiffanyradcliff https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789745682 MDTP looks like a much placement/diagnostic test vs. NWEA because we can see what students scored almost immediately; what questions they got wrong; what questions they omitted...etc. Much more useful information than NWEA and in a more teacher-friendly format.]]> 2020-09-29 21:51:19 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789745682 Interventions tiffanyradcliff https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789748288 Will there be any interventions or supports offered to students once we have our students' data?]]> 2020-09-29 21:53:00 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789748288 MDTP tiffanyradcliff https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789752670 The second video goes through, in detail, how students login, what they will need (scratch paper, not using a calculator, stable internet connection, etc.).  The tutorial for students (and let's be honest, parents or guardians at home) will be very helpful to refer to! Not the mention, the supports offered to teachers.]]> 2020-09-29 21:55:45 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789752670 Tutorial melissaedsall https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789760675 I like that there is a tutorial we can show to kids before the start the test and hopefully answer any questions they might have.]]> 2020-09-29 22:01:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789760675 melissaedsall https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789766106 2020-09-29 22:04:47 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789766106 What to do for students who are absent on testing day? Just schedule a re-take day & time with them (within the testing window)? https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789772885 2020-09-29 22:09:23 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789772885 stephanieparker3 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789857960 A straight forward assessment. Excited to use the results to create better context in class content.]]> 2020-09-29 23:14:39 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789857960 stephanieparker3 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789860443 Continue to use MDTP instead of NWEA to continue to test students? Consistency!]]> 2020-09-29 23:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789860443 stephanieparker3 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789861713 Definitely love that there is a tutorial. This will be very informative for students (hopefully)]]> 2020-09-29 23:17:46 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789861713 stephanieparker3 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789862872 Yes! Time controls on the test are gonna be valuable to keep students from rushing through the exam.]]> 2020-09-29 23:18:43 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789862872 Course Offerings ernstschneidereit https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789948155 In the Q & A, it was explained that the MDTP organization does approve of determining course placement via such testing, although in WJUSD we are just using it in an advisory fashion for the teacher. If MDTP deems it appropriate to use the assessment for course placement, should the WJUSD consider assessment results and use them to plan or expand future math course offerings? ]]> 2020-09-30 00:24:30 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/789948155 brianlee6 https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/798214843 I like how there is a tutorial we can show kids so that it could answer any questions students might have about the test. Also, this session reminded me to emphasize growth mindset to my students more. ]]> 2020-10-02 16:11:52 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/798214843 creedwatts https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/817967525 The available reports give a ton of data. I've always struggled finding the time to go back and 1) look up the results 2) analyze the results and 3) make changes to the curriculum based on the results. ]]> 2020-10-09 20:30:50 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/817967525 creedwatts https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/817977362 In thinking about how to plan for giving this, I'm thinking 1 of the 80 block periods then they finish as an assignment over the next few days. ]]> 2020-10-09 20:37:03 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/817977362 I remember giving the MDTP to our students about 22 years ago (hard copy). I am looking forward to using it again. https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/820529115 2020-10-12 03:40:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mmammons/avq4s1enqb93xleb/wish/820529115