https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2 en-us 2020-04-24 05:21:34 UTC 2025-11-07 03:58:10 UTC hello@padlet.com lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527458224 1.) "You’d like her. I mean if you tell old Phoebe something, she knows exactly what the hell you’re talking about. I mean you can even take her anywhere with you. If you take her to a lousy movie, for instance, she knows it’s a lousy movie. If you take her to a pretty good movie, she knows it’s a pretty good movie" (Salinger 37).

2.)  This quote helps explain that Phoebe is Holden's 10 year old sister, bright, pretty, mature beyound her years, sane, and his most trusted link tp family. She also has red hair and is "roller-skate skinny," a metaphor that, Salinger seems to be saying, is like jazz. To add on, according to Holden's description of his younger sister, Phoebe is quite the innocent young girl. However, I believe that it is not this case, but he rather wishes or "imagines" her as the perfect innocent girl. Based on the quote above, the readers are also able to notice that the two are quite close/ matches well together.

3.) I would infer that this quote represents the first time Holden speaks about his younger sister at length, and it appears in Chapter 10. Holden’s words show how much he cares about Phoebe, and in a rare instance of positivity he sings her praises for another couple of pages. Holden loves Phoebe because he can easily connect with her. Not only is she a good listener, but she also has a keen sense of discernment. These characteristics make Holden feel like they are on the same page. For instance, they share a commonality of understanding of what makes a movie “lousy” or “pretty good.”

]]> 2020-04-24 05:23:10 UTC https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527458224 lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527461454 1.) "I wouldn't describe her as strictly beautiful. She knocked me out, though. She was sort of muckle-mouthed. I mean when she was talking and she got excited about something, her mouth sort of went in about fifty directions, her lips and all" (Salinger 42).
"Most girls if you hold hands with them, their goddam hand dies on you, or else they think they have to keep moving their hand all the time, as if they were afraid they'd bore you or something. Jane was different. We'd get into a goddam movie or something, and right away we'd start holding hands, and we wouldn't quit till the movie was over. And without changing the position or making a big deal out of it" (Salinger 43).

2.) This quote helps characterize Jane's one key feature that Holden obsesses over which is her habit of keeping all of her "kings in the back row" when playing checkers. He says that she doesn't do this for strategy or anything, but because she "liked the way they looked." Because Stradlater is incapable of recognizing this girl's unique habit, Holden loses his mind and attacks his roommate, repeatedly calling him a "stupid moron" who "didn't even care if a girl kept all her kings in the back row or not." Then Holden tells Stradlater that he can't see a girl for who she is and that he doesn't "even know if her first name is Jane or Jean, ya goddam moron!" Besides this, there is a lot more to Jane than her checkers habit. According to Holden, Jane was very athletic and they played tennis almost every afternoon. In addition, Jane was someone Holden says was different, but whom he liked a lot. In fact, Holden respects Jane so much, she's the only one he shows Allie's glove to which I found quite important.

3.) I can infer that Holden's fight with Stradlater occurred because he was afraid that his roommate gave Jane "the time" in the back of Ed Banky's car without really caring about the girl and seeing the smaller and more important details of Jane’s personality and character. Although the readers can clearly see his affection towards her, Holden's inability to reach out to Jane despite his feelings is a big reminder of his passivity and indecision. When he finds out she's downstairs waiting for Stradlater, he says over and over that he'll go down to say hello, but never does. He repeatedly contemplates calling her once he's in New York, but can't bring himself to go through with it. And then, when he finally does pick up the phone, she's not there. Once again, he’s failed to make a connection. Ultimately, the readers are able to witness not only his protective and mature side (during his "fight" with Stradlater), but also view an internal conflict within himself over Jane.

]]> 2020-04-24 05:27:13 UTC https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527461454 lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527470820 1.) "What a technique that guy had. What he’d do was, he’d start snowing his date in this very quiet, sincere voice—like as if he wasn’t only a very handsome guy but a nice, sincere guy, too. I damn near puked, listening to him. His date kept saying, “No—please. Please, don’t. Please.” But old Stradlater kept snowing her in this Abraham Lincoln, sincere voice, and finally there’d be this terrific silence in the back of the car" (Salinger 27).

2.) I can infer that the quote above adds some commentary on where Holden comments on Stradlater's strategy for seducing his dates. Specifically, he points out Stradlater's phony sincerity and his failure to back off when his date tells him "No." Ultimately, Stradlater is described as physically attractive and popular as he is the typical role "playboy" we see in movies.

3.) In regards to how this quote relates to Holden, through Stradlater's atractiveness, the readers are able to view Holden's jealousy. Specifically, Holden wishes he had his roommate's looks and charm. Specifically, it is possible that Holden feels jealous of Stradlater's sexual maturity. Whereas his roommate pursues his sexual desires with confidence, Holden remains confused and full of trepidation. Diving in alittle deeper, Stradlater may also be possibly viewed as an object of desire. Holden's overt fear of homosexuality may be linked to latent homosexual desire, and the constant commentary about Stradlater's body may indicate just such a desire.

]]> 2020-04-24 05:36:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527470820 lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527472184 1.) "He said it didn’t matter if a guy was married or not. He said half the married guys in the world were flits and didn’t even know it. He said you could turn into one practically overnight, if you had all the traits and all. He used to scare the hell out of us. I kept waiting to turn into a flit or something. The funny thing about old Luce, I used to think he was sort of flitty himself" (Salinger 77). 
“He wouldn’t do a goddam thing to you. He’d simply talk to you, and you’d talk to him, for God’s sake. For one thing, he’d help you to recognize the patterns of your mind” (Salinger 79).

2.) I can infer that these quotes further represents one of the few times in the novel when homosexuality comes up quite explicitly throughout the novel. Specifically, it occurs in Chapter 19, during Holden's meeting with Carl, he suspects Luce of being homosexual, and although he seems outwardly dismissive of homosexual men, later in this chapter Holden also seems to have fun looking for potentially homosexual men and pointing them out to Carl.

3.) I think that in regards to Holden, towards the end their time together in Chapter 19, Carl introduces Holden to the possibility of seeking out to someone like his father, who is a psychologist. Such an individual could act as a neutral third party who would be able to help Holden sort out "the patterns of (his) mind." Carl's suggestion is significant in two ways. For one, it indicates that Holden needn't navigate his troubles alone. In addition, it can represent a rare moment when an older male offers real advice, rather than just simply telling Holden to shape up. In the end, Holden seems quite confident with Luce as he shares and opens up which can be seen through Holden's conversation about homosexuality where usually this topic requires a rather confortable relationship.]]> 2020-04-24 05:38:06 UTC https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527472184 lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527476999 1.) “Life is a game, boy. Life is a game that one plays according to the rules” (Salinger 5).

2.) It seems that within this quote, Mr. Spencer's word simply represent the perspective of an adult who has come to terms with the need for rules and the necessity of respecting those rules. In other words, he says this to Holden primarily out of genuine care for his future. Although he is seen lecturing Holden quite strictly, it can be seen that this is a form of guidance and his intentions were good. 

3.) It appears that although Holden first states that Mr. Spencer is his favorite teacher, when he visits Mr. Spencer's house, he is seen illustrating somewhat of a cynical charactership. Although he does not physical show this, he internally rejects his lecture, saying "Game, my ass" (Salinger 5). The reason Holden ultimately rejects Mr. Spencer's perspective on rules may have to do with a deeper resentment at being told what to think. Ultimately, this quote foreshadows that there is definitely a more deep and profound perspective regarding his cynical personality. 

]]> 2020-04-24 05:42:52 UTC https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527476999 lindseyf1728 https://padlet.com/lindseyf1728/arpj3v4b20envsb2/wish/527477265 1.) "Old Maurice unbuttoned his whole uniform coat. All he had on underneath was a phony shirt collar, but no shirt or anything. He had a big fat hairy stomach" (Salinger 55).

2.) From this quote, the readers can easily see that Maurice is an angry pimp who prostitutes out a young girl, steals five dollars, and punches Holden in the stomach. He wears a "phony shirt collar" under his uniform, has a "big fat hairy stomach" and looks "very, very tired or very, very bored" the whole time he's intimidating Holden into paying five more dollars for the privilege of talking to a nervous teenager.

3.) In correlation with Holden, it appears that the whole reason Holden agrees to hiring a prostitution in the first place is that he's "depressed" and isolated. In a way, it makes sense that he thinks he "misses" all the people he met during his time at prep school. The world may be full of phonies, morons, and bastards, but he needs to connect with them anyway. The whole incident with Maurice also helps us see that Holden just can't help making things worse for himself. This isn't the only instance of Holden intentionally making things worse for himself. It’s easily arguable that Holden purposefully gets kicked out of Pencey, drinks to dangerous levels, and wanders around the freezing park at night because he's acting out a wish to self-destruct.

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