7/19 Mentorship Workshop by Torrie Jacobs https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone Workshop discussion over VTubers and Issues Facing Asian Streamers en-us 2021-07-19 00:07:19 UTC 2021-07-20 01:10:14 UTC hello@padlet.com Pedophilia risks https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655230937 There is a lot of potential negative effects from vtubing. Like even though it's a great career and has better privacy security from other types of streaming, ppl can be easily influenced to sort of fetishize the vtuber's anime persona (some with like child or younger looking avatars) and possibly promote like infantilize them or, in worst cases, promote pedophilia.]]> 2021-07-20 00:14:28 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655230937 I think that its hard being a streamer (esp female) because chat can be super disrespectful... and this normalizes and enables toxic behaviour throughout the community. I find that very disheartening. I think that there needs to be consequences for these types of actions, it's just hard when it's a group of people... not just one person. https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655231380 2021-07-20 00:14:44 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655231380 accusing the victim https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655231580 I wonder how long it will take for people to just believe victims when they say they have gone through something]]> 2021-07-20 00:14:53 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655231580 i feel like from a person who is constantly being watched by the media, negative feedback is often very common in the industry. personally i think when choosing between he 2 options, i'd pick becoming a vtuber. when receiving hate comments, they aren't directly targeted at my "real" appearance. ultimately i think the filter can provide something to hide behind. though, with the comments regarding race, it can definitely be seen as a very common downfall influencers experience. https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655232422 2021-07-20 00:15:33 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655232422 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655232702 Vtubing seems like an easy way to be a faceless streamer, but it could be potentially dangerous, especially if a glitch occurs and your face is leaked.]]> 2021-07-20 00:15:45 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655232702 vtubing (by jess n amy) https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233088 vtubers are entertainment which means that they will always be out to the public, however i think that vtubing is somewhat toxic as it feeds into stereotypes of east asians. this leads to fetishizing and de-humanizing east asians / asians that look like east asians. ]]> 2021-07-20 00:16:04 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233088 Vtubers https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233351  feel that being a female streamer, especially asian. We're sexualized for our features. When denying requests to undress, views are lost meaning less support. Many of these streamers' only means of living is streaming so it can really take a toll on them. Women are potentially sacrificing their morals a bit. Sometimes these streamers keep their streaming a secret to save face.]]> 2021-07-20 00:16:16 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233351 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233654 I never thought about the negatives of what vtubers have to face. I watch some of them myself from time to time (mostly from hololive) and this is the first I've heard about their controversy. This was really interesting to learn about in this workshop.]]> 2021-07-20 00:16:30 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655233654 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234041 I'm not a big fan of the whole idea especially with the parasocial relationships that people often form with the influencers they watch. I think it's already unhealthy to develop a reliance on people you only watch on a screen and that you don't know, and even more so if it's an animated character that can be edited and made to look less realistic which can give people unhealthy expectations about their own features]]> 2021-07-20 00:16:48 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234041 While the choice of being a vtuber provides ability to stay more anonymous compared to the traditional content creator it also makes it so that the audience doesn't treat the creator as they would a normal person. The barrier of an avatar acts as both a shield for the creator, but also provides the risk of being treated more so as a fictional object than as a human being https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234237 2021-07-20 00:16:57 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234237 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234365 I never paid much attention to vtubers, but it always seemed like a fun way to stream. Streamers would be able to create their own persona and share the content they wanted without the worry of having their identity exposed (despite having that become a drawback now).]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:04 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234365 Face Reveal Culture https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234405 the ability to be an internet personality while maintaining your privacy is amazing if chat, followers, and others would stop pressuring the creators to do face reveals. No one should pressure creators to share anything they aren't comfortable with. That's the whole point]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:05 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234405 vtubing - bella icruz0002 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234680 In many cases, I believe vtubing contributes to the "submissive asian woman" stereotype. which in return, 
 can be harmful to asian women, especially SE asian women.]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:17 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234680 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234987 I think the main problem here lies with Twitch and other similar streaming platforms. They have been known for treating different streamers differently and allowing this cycle of sexualization and racism on their platform.]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:30 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655234987 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655235188 Its a lot of negatives for vtubing and hopefully those things will be drastically reduced if not stopped completely]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:40 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655235188 i think https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655235440 i think vtubing is weird]]> 2021-07-20 00:17:53 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655235440 Talking about negative comments, https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655236623 some people think that receiving negative comments is “part of the job” of being famous and if people can’t take it then they shouldn’t have put themselves out there in the first place. ]]> 2021-07-20 00:18:47 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655236623 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655237612 As a person who doesn't really watch steams of any kind i don't really have a say on this but Vtubing seems like a more negative thing, anthough it does have its benefits. Many people hide behind screens and attack the steamers, especially when they could imput stereotypical stuff onto them as to Asians (woman especially) it really isn't a good thing but it's most likely the environment.]]> 2021-07-20 00:19:28 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655237612 vtubing can potentially cause a harmful and toxic community, there are many different types of people and unfortunately there will be some that can bring pressure upon an individual, whether it being pushing people to do a face reveal or leaving threatening messages https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655238391 2021-07-20 00:19:59 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655238391 Streamers https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655238951 I'm not too familiar with streamers in general but I feel like there are good and bad things when revealing your face to the public. ]]> 2021-07-20 00:20:23 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655238951 https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655239246 It feels weird to me that people could present themselves online as an avatar that doesn't look like them at all and potentially change races. The rise in asian fishing/east asian baiting makes me think that there's a high potential for people to more easily "pass" as east/south east asian using an avatar]]> 2021-07-20 00:20:36 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655239246 Idk https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655240826 2021-07-20 00:21:35 UTC https://padlet.com/vmjacobs2023/workshopone/wish/1655240826