https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg Made with a warm hug en-us 2018-01-25 21:39:33 UTC 2018-01-26 19:47:19 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209316 2018-01-26 19:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209316 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209716 The two, although are discussing a similar topic, they are not "intertwined" or "on the same ground." They are saying things that they think would interest the other but not really listening to each other or relating to one another, but only thinking about themselves. Like reading a script. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:08 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209716 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209735 Both parties from the clip were not actually present and not listening to each other. They were more concerned with what the other person thought of themselves.]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:10 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209735 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209736 We]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:10 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209736 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209839 Both people in this clip were awkward while talking. They seemed uncomfortable. For example, they had a hidden dialogue in subtitles what they actually wanted to say.]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:27 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209839 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209868 No connection was made about the two. It did not seem like it was a fluid conversation, no one thinking about the other person's feelings. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:32 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209868 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209909 The two were not involved in the conversation and the dialogue did not flow well due to it. They also only focused on themselves and their inner thought and ignored the other three existential grounds. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:38 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209909 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209922 The two seem to be on different grounds, not intertwined, no chiasm involved.]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:39 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209922 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209957 They both have underlying ideas or questions that they are thinking yet they are engaging in an irrelevant conversation to establish a common ground to keep the conversation going]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:46 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209957 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209982 They had completely different outlooks. Neither were present]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209982 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209983 didnt focus on what the other person was saying]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209983 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209984 Both of them are unsure of the others feelings so they're trying to assess the situation and direct the conversation in a way to figure out if the other person  is interested but they're so awkward that they are unable to focus

]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225209984 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210022 neither person was really listening to the conversation]]> 2018-01-26 19:37:55 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210022 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210053 2018-01-26 19:38:01 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210053 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210061 They are not being present with eachothers  conversations and therefore don’t have a good dialogue going ]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:01 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210061 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210068 They are not being mindful of the questions being asked. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:02 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210068 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210098 Both of them were at different places in the conversation, neither were actually listening to the other ]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:07 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210098 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210189 They were having these underlying thoughts throughout the conversation that made it extremely awkward]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210189 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210204

]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:21 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210204 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210221 In the conversation between the nurse and mother the dialogue is detached and the nurse is trying to do her job, and in the movie the subtitles portray the real thoughts as opposed to their basic and detached conversation about her art]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:24 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210221 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210236 They are speaking mechanistically rather than bracketing]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210236 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210242 they weren't listening to what each other had to say

]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:29 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210242 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210284 They weren’t really listening to their responses. They were talking just to talk]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:33 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210284 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210292 The dialogue seems awkward because the two weren’t truly present in the conversation as they were both thinking different things as they were talking to eachother.]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:35 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210292 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210294 They were both more focused on their own internal conversations and not engaging with the other person. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:36 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210294 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210300 Braketing: they weren’t being present with each other, or allowing themselves to listen. 

Mechanistic lense: they were analyzing everything instead of thinking casually. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:37 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210300 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210336 Neither party was listening to the other. They were both trying to explain their own view rather than listening. 

]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:44 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210336 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210342 The couple was not having dialogue in which rh]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:44 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210342 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210441 Both p]]> 2018-01-26 19:38:58 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210441 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210512 Neither of them were truly listening and they were both too focused on what they were thinking inside their own heads ]]> 2018-01-26 19:39:10 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210512 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210693 Dialogue. He is having a conversation with her but isn't actually present during the conversation 

]]> 2018-01-26 19:39:41 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225210693 hfetters https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211002 This conversation was awkward to him because it was as if they were both on different pages. As they were speaking their thoughts were contradicting to what they were saying. This was similar to the nurse situation in the reading because as the nurse asked the woman a question while she was in labor, they were both on different pages. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:40:30 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211002 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211539 Everyone probably sees certain colors at different stages in their lives. For example, if they are young childern, adults or in the dying stages ]]> 2018-01-26 19:40:55 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211539 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211586 You only pay attention to what's in front of you while everything else falls in the background]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:03 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211586 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211590 By saying that we only see color some of the time it is a great example of the limitations of perspective. In order to focus on one thing you must eliminate the thought of other things.]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:04 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211590 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211620 I believe he would say that you only see color when you’re actually aware of it rather than noticing it all the time such as in everyday life.]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:10 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211620 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211633 you only see on things when you notice. She would definitely agree on films needing to revert back to black and white.

]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:13 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211633 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211647 you only see it if you focus on it]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:16 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211647 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211665 He would agree with Tarkovsky

]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:20 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211665 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211680 He would agree! ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:22 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211680 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211733 This relates to Merleau-Ponty's figure/ground because you can only focus on one thing at a time. For example, if you're looking at a computer, you're more than likely to notice that it's a computer before you notice the color of the computer. We can only focus on one thing at a time.]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:30 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211733 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211749 He would agree. 

]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:32 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211749 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211760 Figure/ground: color falls to the background while we pay attention to what the object itself is, or what is being expressed. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211760 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211802 We don’t experience color because we are usually looking at the object the color is on. Also people perceive colors as different. For example, orange to me can be red to you.]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:41 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211802 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211803 Color is something that is probably most often put into the ground of our perspective rather than the figure since it is something we are so used to so we aren't overly aware of it's presence ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:41 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211803 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211807 Figure/ Ground: we only see what we are looking at and we don't notice the color because they don't really matter. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:41 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211807 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211821 He would agree because of the concept of figure and ground how people get busy focusing on other things to notice color all the time]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:44 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211821 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211830 he would agree

]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:47 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211830 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211833 There is a lack of ambiguity and people focus on the either/or. They either see the situation or the color. This also relates to figure/ground. One thing is paid close attention to, usually not color, and the other will be noticed as present, but not paid attention to. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:47 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211833 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211855 Color isn't as important as the object it is attached to. Thinking about figure/ground, we focus in on one figure
 (this case the object) and lose focus of the ground (which is the color). ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:49 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211855 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211870 Color is often taken for granted and we see color when we want to, when color is removed and we see in black and white, we realize how much the color makes a difference in what we are looking at ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:51 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211870 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211881 It has a lot to do with ambiguity and the different perspectives. It could also be related to the figure/ ground where you are only able to focus on one thing at a time: either color or what is going on. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:54 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211881 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211886 when you're focusing on one thing, other things disappear or fade. so this ties into to the Figure/ Ground and the 4 existential grounds

]]> 2018-01-26 19:41:55 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225211886 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225212158 Merleau-Ponty would explain it with figure/ground. If the audience is paying attention to what is happening in the scenes rather than the color, they would perceive the film as “real”.]]> 2018-01-26 19:42:38 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225212158 https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225212220 You only see it if you focus on it. We are aware of it's presence but we do not focus on it. ]]> 2018-01-26 19:42:51 UTC https://padlet.com/drake_gossi/9sguzh3h9byg/wish/225212220