https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2 Include one fact from the Stephanie Coontz and Adam podcast, and what this knowledge means for sociologists. en-us 2017-11-16 23:54:39 UTC 2025-10-01 14:49:22 UTC hello@padlet.com epicpants https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/207942045 In the beginning of the podcast, Stephanie and Adam talk about how romantic love, especially in some Chinese culture, was frowned upon. This could tells us 1) that romantic love isn't universally viewed as a positive thing 2) globally and historically, marriages are not based off love and 3) some may have saw romantic love as potentially disastrous because it distracted youth from devotion to family and work (the economy). ]]> 2017-11-16 23:55:03 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/207942045 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/208817336

]]> 2017-11-20 17:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/208817336 kaitlynbrindley https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209552365
Kaitlyn brindley

]]> 2017-11-22 20:49:55 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209552365 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209552789 In the podcast, Stephanie and Adam talked about the correlation between love and marriage. For most of history, they were not correlated at all. Adultry was seen as a real form of love. Adultry was more accepted back then because of the fact that people were not marrying for love, but to uphold or raise there social status. The development of wage labor was one of the things that helped changed this norm. Both people were able to go out and work and defy the status they were expected to uphold. People didn’t start marrying for love until the late 1800s to early 1900s. They go on to talk about the new statistics about happier marriages. Stephanie says that date night is the stupidest thing, and that the kids should be sent out or you should go on double dates. You need to go out and socialize to get new stories and experiences to share with each other. -T Haynes]]> 2017-11-22 20:52:44 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209552789 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209775104 Stephanie and Adam began their podcast by discussing the relationship between love and marriage in the past. People didn't start marrying for love until the 1800s; prior to then, marriage was a business arrangement. People around the world married for economic and social purposes. Marrying for love was seen as stupid and reckless. Most surprising to me was that in China, the word love had a negative connotation. Another fact I found interesting was that infidelity outside of marriage was not reviled, but seen as the only sphere in which true love could  exist. This concept is foreign to me in a time where cheating is considered one of the worse possible things you could commit whilst in a relationship with someone. The relationship between love and marriage in the olden days can allow sociologists to understand cultures that presently marry for nonromantic reasons. ]]> 2017-11-23 19:04:29 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/209775104 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210039791 Stephanie and Adam talk about how marriage was more a political idea and business arrangement. They said how if love comes after marriage then that is fine, but you should not get married based off love. Stephanie explained that in the old days loving your spouse too much was seen as adultery for Catholics. This is the first time I have ever even heard this crazy thought. I was born and raised Catholic and no one has ever told me this, but I did share it with my whole family now. Sociologists can take this information and examine how different marriages workout based on culture and beliefs. ]]> 2017-11-25 15:00:16 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210039791 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210052241 Adam and Stephanie talk about history of marriage, the norm of matrimony, what's new in society. In the beginning of the podcast they both started off by stating that people got married to due economical, and political beliefs not for love. You got married in order raise up in social ranks, not until the 19 century the word love had a negative connotation.  This knowledge can be helpful because marriage today is all about love, and not about moving up by marring off to someone in the higher class. ]]> 2017-11-25 17:02:18 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210052241 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210098678 An interesting marriage fact that Adam and Stephanie talked about was that marriage had a lot to do with finances and not love. Back then in society marriage was the main way people strived to obtain power and social status. It was not based on the individual and their achievements but was based on their descent and their ability to mobilize labor and parents wanted to marry their child off to somebody who was higher in the social status or at least just as high. Love was not a part of that process. This knowledge can be helpful to sociologists in the sense that they can research and uncover which cultures and locations in society might continue to practice this belief and which don’t and how this, marriage being a financial contact back then, has affected the way people view and act upon marriage today.]]> 2017-11-26 04:41:00 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210098678 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210130276 A interesting fact I got from Adam and Stephanie's talk was that marriage and its perception has changed so much over time. During earlier times marriage was only ever seen as a business agreement and was considered "not normal" to get married because you were in love. It was seen as something that defined your political and social class, in the podcast it says that during that time if you were to fall in love after being married it was okay but was also frowned upon because it could set limitations with dominance between the two or could cause other problems if one of them falls out of love. Love was more of a social and financial contract between two people rather than an connection made because if didn't fit into the process oh marrying your child off to someone of a higher class. Knowing this can help sociologist too look at how society is shifting over time and how we are changing in the ways we are being socialized to think certain ways about love and marriage. 

]]> 2017-11-26 12:27:01 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210130276 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210159202 2017-11-26 16:29:11 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210159202 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210162273 On the broadcast Adam and Stephanie talk about the history about marriage and nuclear families and how those had been change through the years. Today love is a social value, is an important feeling, where about 93% of the population get married by falling in love with someone else; something that in the past was different. Years ago marriage was more a political decision and a social status where love was not part of it. And if you do not love someone, you will probably want to get out of that marriage. Stephanie defines the feeling of love as something more that the physical pleasure, she said that love is something more of what media present, is not really a dramatic thing, is where you share moments with your couple and show respect in a commitment. Which is a positive thing because on the past the social class such as education, way of live, involves the decision of getting married. The race was a real thing, however love did exist is something that always have been there as a part of us but on the past some love was ilegal due to social class.

]]> 2017-11-26 16:49:50 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210162273 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210179252 When they mention that marrying for love is frown upon. I think It can tell Sociologist that love wasn't a priority in some societies/ cultures. It's more of your status and what you can offer to another person vice versa to build up your status. You weren't marrying for your own satisfaction but for the business of you and your family. Something interesting that she said was that the only true love was adulterous love. So people would be unhappy in marriages because of the image it portrayed yet be in love with someone they couldn't have for the simple fact that it wouldn't help the image of both families. ]]> 2017-11-26 18:32:24 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210179252 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210184960 I thought it was interesting to learn that love and marriage originally were a business arrangement. Love and marriage were historically different in a sense. If you were to fall in love after getting married, so be it. But you didn't get married because you were in love. From a sociologist point of view, this would open their eyes to the fact that marriage is viewed completely different all over the world. In other cultures, marriage might be forced by your family to sometimes even a stranger. Whereas in our culture, it is pretty common to get married to the one you love.  It is important to consider that marriage has a different meaning to everyone and some cultures value it more than others.]]> 2017-11-26 19:07:00 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210184960 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210217519 Im very surprised to learn that back in the day love had nothing to do with love and now it does. Back in the day getting married was about power and money. fathers would marry their daughters to the rich. Now fathers make sure that the men actually love their daughters. Before they rarely found love in their marriage they mainly looked outside their marriage to find love, which most people believed thats the only place you were able to find "pure love". While now it is frowned upon big time go looking for love outside of your marriage.]]> 2017-11-26 23:19:15 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210217519 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210233375 In the podcast I found it interesting that cheating on your spouse used to be considered a normal practice. Today cheating would be considered a big deal and something that was enough to end a marriage whereas in the past it was a way to keep a marriage going because the relationships were not built on love. Also the fact that people were having children more for leverage against others than just because they wanted to have children was interesting.]]> 2017-11-27 01:35:02 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/210233375 https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/211860487 The fact that love and marriage were historically separate and how love wasn't the primary reason behind marriage. Back then, marriage was seen more of a business arrangement and then love was secondary whether they actually fell in love or not which was surprising to me. The intentions and reasoning behind getting married back then wasn't always because of love.]]> 2017-11-30 14:30:40 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/9ln0h0evmsu2/wish/211860487