https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z Read the article from NY Times - I killed people in Afghanistan. Was I right or wrong? by Timothy Kudo en-us 2019-03-06 13:16:52 UTC 2019-03-06 19:25:07 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padletuploads.blob.core.windows.net/prod/147274/2240c41ab62291a735a894eb1eb1ecc1/myAvatar__5_.png https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404556 I believe that killing is necessary in war because there is currently no other agreed upon way for nations to come to a consensus about an issue, and death sadly seems to be the only option to get a leader's attention to be able to compromise with another nation.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:24 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404556 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404803 I believe that even though it may not be morally right to kill during war, it is necessary. I have an uncle who was a commanding soldier in Afghanistan. He explained the impact that these wars had on him, both mentally and physically. ]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404803 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404811 While killing is indeed morally wrong, it is necessary. That's not to say that the war in Afghanistan doesn't leave a massive effect on its soldiers. The main thing in the article that comes to mind is the story of how the veteran killed the two boys on the bike. It was technically a case of "better safe than sorry" but it will always be on the veteran's mind because his developed instinct of killing caused the death of two innocent teenagers. That's why the idea of killing in combat is so controversial; murder is murder, but it is also protection.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404811 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404846 I believe that killing others is morally wrong, especially when you know nothing about someone and, without regards to that person, kill them. However, during times of war, killing can be necessary, but only when one kills in self defense.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:51 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404846 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404862 I agree with Timothy Kudo, when veterans return from war, they're often glorified for their actions, but the mind of the veteran can often be plagued with guilt. I think killing is still wrong even in times of war, but it really depends on a person's morals to decide whether or not the killing was justified or not.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:51 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404862 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404883 I believe that killing others is morally wrong, even in war. Some of the people that our armed forces have killed have been innocent civilians that didn't understand what the soldiers were telling them. Situations like those could threaten a soldier's life, but the entire idea of the war could be prevented, so those soldiers wouldn't have to be put into that position.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404883 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404939 To me killing is morally wrong due to my faith. However, I feel like there are certain scenarios where one would have to possibly kill such as war, a dangerous home invasion, or even giving the death penalty to a person.]]> 2019-03-06 14:52:59 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404939 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404986 In Timothy Kudo's "I Killed People in Afghanistan. Was I Right or Wrong," he discusses the moral conflict that many veterans of war suffer from when they have to kill people, like Kudo did in Afghanistan. While I understand that war is sometimes a necessary evil, I still believe it is just that - an evil. Taking another human's like isn't easy for anybody, and it weighs heavy on the conscious of many soldiers. I am not sure whether or not I believe it is moral to kill, even during a war. 

]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338404986 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405026 I think that is necessary in certain situations.]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:08 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405026 rb048720 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405033 I don't think that killing even during times of war is right. Many times during war the enemy is viewed as less than human, therefore okay or necessary to kill. However, I do not agree and I believe taking a life under any circumstance is immoral.]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:09 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405033 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405052 I believe that war is a very serious issue and before people enlist in whatever branch that are going to, they need to think about how killing people will impact their lives. I do believe that killing people is morally wrong, but during war it can be necessary; with that being said we as Americans need more programs for veterans to help them get through one of the hardest mental struggles in their lives. Civilians also need to be more informed about veterans and war in general, so 1. they will know what they are getting into before they choose to go to war and 2. not to go up to veterans asking them about their kills.]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405052 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405148 I have no sympathy for other people. I believe that killing is just in certain situations. War is one of the few times where killing can be justified. ]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:17 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405148 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405248 I'm not sure at all, sure killing is wrong in on itself we know that, but if it's for the good of one's country then sometimes it's justified. However who are we to determine what's a good enough reason to be in a war. If the reason is petty than the killing is unnecessary, but if the country we would be at war with is beating women and murdering their own citizens, that's pretty justifiable. Ever since taking Abbott's class I feel like everything I'm saying is wrong, but so is the other side so who cares anymore.]]> 2019-03-06 14:53:28 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338405248 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406096 I feel that killing another my be right in certain situations that you might be in. For example if someone was trying to take your life, you would do anything to stay alive even if it is worth killing another person ]]> 2019-03-06 14:54:43 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406096 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406136 I bel]]> 2019-03-06 14:54:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406136 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406162 Personally I believe that killing in war is justified. But only when war is being fought for the protection of others and going after those of wrong doing. Because if we didn't we wouldn't have any of the freedoms that we enjoy today.]]> 2019-03-06 14:54:50 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406162 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406812 While killing in war is sometimes necessary, I do agree with Kudo when he mentions that it takes a toll on service members and veterans. ]]> 2019-03-06 14:55:50 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338406812 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338407492 I do believe it is necessary to kill during war, but I also it can affect the people in the war greatly because you have a lot of veterans with PTSD because the killing and violence that went on the wars. However they had to kill in order to save more lives than the ones they took and while doing so they are saving their own lives. In war its basically like "kill or be killed".]]> 2019-03-06 14:56:53 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338407492 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338408834 Killing in war is a necessary in war but only in war and even then their is a chance that it is not justified. You could kill a innocent man or a fellow solider or the enemy. There is no morale. There is no morale in killing for protection or going war to defend your family. There is just chaos.]]> 2019-03-06 14:58:57 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338408834 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338409431 2019-03-06 14:59:51 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338409431 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338553051 Killing isn't something to consider lightly in wars. Although I dislike the idea of people dying in wars, it's the only option people have deeming killing as necessary. In the end, no one is really a "winner" after a war, both sides lose at least one thing. One side may lose people to killing while the other side may lose its self-respect.]]> 2019-03-06 18:52:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338553051 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554035 I believe that killing is wrong and against many morals, but in situations like war, when you have to protect yourself and the ones you love it is necessary. If someone has been told that taking another's life is wrong and they do it it could have a huge mental impact on them, for example PTSD.]]> 2019-03-06 18:54:02 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554035 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554316 I believe that killing others is morally dangerous, but acceptable.  Some situations require death before they could possibly get any better.  For instance, dictators of the past and maybe the present are assassinated for the good of many, rather than allowing the dictators to appease only themselves.  However, the more one kills, the worse their moral compass will probably guide them.  Soldiers must struggle with killing others, especially at first, but they seem to become more at ease with it over time.  Morality seems damageable, but not erasable when it comes to killing others, and I don't think a healthy mind is capable of feeling nothing when one kills another.]]> 2019-03-06 18:54:26 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554316 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554356 While killing is morally wrong, I do believe killing in war is justified. Most of the killing done in war is usually in self defense. But, like Kudo said, killing can have a serious and permanent affect toll on veterans' lives. I think killing is morally wrong, but in war, it is necessary.]]> 2019-03-06 18:54:31 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554356 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554421 When you deiced you'd like to join a branch of war you have to be okay with the fact that you'll probably have to kill someone during the time you serve. Killing in war is necessary, Isn't that what was is? Killing people in war can cause major damage to the person who has killed someone. That person has to live the rest of their life knowing that they have taken someones life. These war veterans are so strong with their motions, well they have to be. People in war basically have to kill or be killed. 

Morally its wrong though, you cant just wake up one morning and think I am going to kill someone, if you do you're going to sound crazy and be arrested]]> 2019-03-06 18:54:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554421 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554486 "Thou shalt not kill" is normally the first quote that comes to mind when talking about morals of murder. As the law states, people can defined themselves if their life is threatened. I think the same principle applies to war. In the article, Timothy Kudo talked about shooting two kids below the age of sixteen. In this situation, the troops were defending themselves. Even though the kids turned out to be harmless, the soldier's could've been attacked by kids who were sent out to kill the soldiers. Killing can be necessary in certain situations. ]]> 2019-03-06 18:54:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554486 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554941 I believe the concept of war is a very serious matter because anyones brother, sister, father, mother, or other family members could have been enlisted in the military. In my opinion, war is necessary when some countries or designated part of the world will not stop harming people and causing danger to its citizens, or the citizens of countries they have invaded.  When the United States was subject to a terrorist attack on September 11th, our country had to take back control and fight back.  A nation without war and protection will be a weak nation because in the 21st century, peace is a very rare thing.  Although I believe war is necessary in certain circumstances, I agree with Kudo that war can have traumatic effect on the ones enlisted, and people should remember that those people risked their life and their sanity to protect our country.  ]]> 2019-03-06 18:55:26 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338554941 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555039 I honestly don't really know what to think when it comes to subjects such as these because I really do fully understand both sides of the story here. I hate to say it but I understand what people mean when they say that killing is necessary, the saying "kill or be killed." If the person is going to shoot  you, why would you stand there and let it happen. But at the same time, I also feel that war and killing is terrible and that those were people, with lives and family and friends. All in all I really just wish everyone could just be nice to each other, though it seems like we are still far from that.]]> 2019-03-06 18:55:34 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555039 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555106 I believe that killing isn't morally right. But in a time of war I feel as tho it is necessary. I think it is necessary to kill during war because it will hopefully prevent another war from happening , which will save more lives then the ones taken during war. ]]> 2019-03-06 18:55:39 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555106 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555272 I believe that killing is morally wrong, but I also believe that it is justified in certain situations. I believe the killing of innocent civilians is the fault of the actual person pulling the trigger and the person giving the order, but I just can't imagine a random civilian entering a war zone without some idea of what is going on around them which is usually the reason that they end up dying which also makes it partially the civilians fault. Guns are loud dude.]]> 2019-03-06 18:55:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555272 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555770 Though my religious beliefs would lead me to say that all killing is wrong, in times of war, I find this to be faulty. During war soldiers fight, and in some cases kill, but they do it for the sake of their country. Saving the lives of millions over-weighs killing one; although this may be hard for some soldiers to cope with. ]]> 2019-03-06 18:56:41 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338555770 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338556790 Morally, killing is wrong in many people's religions it is looked down on. When war is the situation though most people deem killing as just because they are protecting our country and our freedoms. My morals say killing is wrong because in the bible it says not to kill, steal or destroy and youre doing exactly that but sometimes things have to be done. But morally you know what you are getting into when you join for war.  

]]> 2019-03-06 18:58:19 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338556790 https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338561500
There are costs to killing people in war - the obvious one is that someone loses their life. War causes people to face their true selves. In the article “I killed people in Afghanistan. Was I right or wrong?”, Timothy Kudo describes his service in the Marine Corps. Kudo states, “We were simply too busy to worry about the morality of what we were doing.” At the heat of the moment, Kudo did not give his actions much thought, but later on the memories haunted him. During war, killing people it is seen as a duty. A horrifying mindset.

]]> 2019-03-06 19:06:12 UTC https://padlet.com/lcollins4/9izbqk6t081z/wish/338561500