Citizenship by Maya Molina Grillo https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz Summary by Group A en-us 2021-09-24 13:10:42 UTC 2026-02-17 03:16:53 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f3db.png maya_molina2 https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765693928      The greeks are often credited for the first instances of citizenship. Though there were many societies that precede their time it was the greek city-state that brought this concept to life. The distinction of consent versus decent, which means to be a citizen by choice versus having birthright citizenship, is also attributed to the greeks. Before the Greeks came along, people had connections to their kin-group or tribe but not to the state. To them, however, citizens had a connection to the city-state too. 

     It is often suspected that the reason why they made citizenship was to escape the possible chance of falling into slavery. Historian Geoffrey Hosking explains that the Greeks stuck together and fought for their freedom, and to stay free. This is also why they formed their political institutions in a way that made every citizen protected from a  life of slavery. ]]> 2021-09-24 13:41:52 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765693928 nicole_abedrabbo https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765695929  The Greeks thought of citizenship as if it was their military. The basic idea was that their military was a reflection of their community. They believed that military and citizenship were alike in many ways. If each man had a say in the community fighting against an adversary and if they would be held responsible for their group then loyalty was most likely. The same principle was used in their everyday community and in fact, affected their politics a lot. ]]> 2021-09-24 13:42:35 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765695929 https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765738860 Citenzenship was a very important part in Greek culture, it created a sense of loyalty among people just by giving people power in the society. The avarege greek citezen needed to follow the rules that where there if he followed he could power in the society around him, other wise he was put the name Tyrranus or tyrant, This loyalty has worked for the greeks in war because of the loyalty greeks would die for their citystate in instances like the persian war.]]> 2021-09-24 13:57:40 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1765738860 Paula Mosquera paula_mosquera1 https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775480598 Pocock basically said that citizens can come to be understood as persons. "free to act by law, free to ask and expect the law's protection, a citizen of such and such a legal community, of such and such a legal standing in that community." 
Many thinkers suggested that the Roman's conception of citizenship had a really big emphasis than the Greek one "legal and political shield of relationship with the state", also that citizens were supposed to have had at some point a "cosmopolitan character". 
Citizenship meant having the right to sue and be sued, having rights to immunities, possessions and expectations, ad that law was a type of bong uniting people.
Pocock thought that Roman laws change the nature of citizenship, that it was more impersonal, more universal and multiform.
Law continued growing with the Romans, they even developed law into a type of science called jurisprudence.]]> 2021-09-28 17:39:57 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775480598 Javier Villacis javier_villacis1 https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775485409 In this paragraph we can see how the Roman empire was completely different to the Greek empire, in my opinion, the Roman empire was a more empathic society with the aliens, they could be free but with some regulations, the could merry and have work. I think this is a better idea because in that way you can grow more as an empire and you create alies and not enemies. The Greek empire was a more closed society, they had a more strict way of Governing. 

]]> 2021-09-28 17:41:05 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775485409 Rafa Novoa rafaela_novoa https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775491237 Aristotle believed that all ancient Greeks thought that being a citizen was something natural, something you were born with. This was an elitist concept in which communities share similar ideas as to how people should act in society and how people should behave appropriately. According to Geoffrey Hosking, Athenian logic could eventually lead to participatory democracy. There must be a political and economic war if a large number of soldiers are required to participate in war. This would prevent warriors from falling into debt, which leads to slavery. A slave cannot participate in the army. 
As a result, the original Athenian aristocratic constitution became more obsolete. It allowed the apparition of a more inclusive system. The reformer Solon imposed the Solonian Constitution in the 6th century BCE and replaced the Draconian constitution. 
Solon canceled all land debts and allowed free Athenian males to join the assembly. He incentivized skilled foreign craftsmen to move to relocate to Athens, by offering them citizenship through naturalization. Even though the aristocratic Athenians continued to rule Ancient Greece, civilians now have a political voice in the Assembly. 

-Rafaella Novoa
]]> 2021-09-28 17:43:06 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775491237 Ana Paula Corral https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775498022 In Athenian society, Geoffery Hosking stated that citizenship was “ relatively narrowly distributed”. Women, all minors, all slaves, all immigrants, and most colonials were not allowed to have citizenship or be part of any political aspect. Hoskins argues that solidarity could have been hurt if citizenship would have been spread more widely; there were overall 50,000 citizens and a tenth would actually be a part of the assembly. Many Historians disagreed and stated that the weakness of Athenian society was the exclusiveness and discrimination. Pocock expressed a similar idea as Hosking related to citizenship and its exclusivity; he stated that citizenship requires a certain distance from the day-to-day drudgery of daily living. Men in Athens solved this problem by using the subjection of women and the use of slaves to free their schedules so they were able to be part and participate in the assembly.
-Ana Paula Corral]]> 2021-09-28 17:45:21 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775498022 Caridad Padilla https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775506223 Cleisthenes (a Greek reformer) organized Athenian society based on grouping. He grouped families, phratries, or he even grouped people from different geographical areas. Due to this, tribes were abolished. For this reason, groups like farmers, sailors, and sheepherders joined the same political unit, lessening kinship ties as a basis for citizenship. Later on, Athenians extended their basic bonds, forming the idea of a multiethnic state built on democratic principles. Democracy gave citizens the right to be involved in politics. In his political system, all citizens, noble or non-noble were practically equal, and regardless of their living place in Attica, they could be part of the state administration. It's worth saying that democracy happened in Athenian society thanks to its implementation by the Greek reformer: Cleisthenes.

- Caridad Padilla]]> 2021-09-28 17:48:10 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775506223 Luciana Houlberg https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775509693 Feliks Gross thought that an arrangement could succeed if people from different backgrounds could form constructive associations. There was a practice in which citizens could anonymously vote for a citizen to be expelled from Athens for a maximum of 10 years. This was called the Athenian practice of ostracism, its intentions were to promote internal harmony and it was a way to remove a possible threat to the state, but without having to go through legal procedures. To be an Athenian citizen, based on obligations they have towards the community, instead of having rights given to its members. But this didn't bother the people, since they saw these obligations as ways to be virtuous and have honour and respect. In Athens, the view of citizenry was seen as “its own master”, citizens were both ruler and ruled. Political and judicial offices were rotated so that way they prevented corruption and expanded the participation. In the political assembly, all citizens had the right to vote and speak. According to Pocock, the citizen rules and is ruled. Citizens join each other to make decisions where each of them respects the authority of the others and all obey the decisions made, which are known as the ‘laws’.

- Luciana Houlberg]]> 2021-09-28 17:49:22 UTC https://padlet.com/maya_molina2/8wvvpv9gmkxvsgdz/wish/1775509693