https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2 What do you make of Montag's idea of placing books at firemen's houses to try and bring the system down? Would this work? If not, what do you think would save this dystopian society? What developments in this reading was striking to you? en-us 2020-11-16 19:50:29 UTC 2020-11-19 06:03:22 UTC hello@padlet.com emilyk4070 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938156091 I don't believe this would work. Propaganda and media in general is so deeply ingrained into the people's mind, that people would just brush it off. Yes, they would think the firemen are bad for having books, but their engrossment and addiction to media would prevent any uprisings. Maybe a couple of people like Montag who were more numb than addicted would realize something, but it would not work on a larger scale. As far as fixing the society as a whole, I believe that generation is lost. If anything were to change drastically, the leadership would have to be radical in the other way. They would have to release pro book propaganda and make a lot of changes, but slowly to prevent anger. Then, the children and grandchildren of that generation might take a turn for the better. ]]> 2020-11-18 18:23:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938156091 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938159595 Placing books in the firemans house was definetly an intresting thought. I think it might help a little. If anything it would at least get a coversation going about the destruction of books. People would find books at firemen's house and would ask, "if firemen have books maybe there is something actually important about them." this could cause the interest in books to rise and maybe even start a chain of events that could lead to the leagalization of books. 

Personally I think there are better ways to get books legalized. I defiently think that books need to become a topic of discussion again, and people need to question the governments decision to destroy them. I think someone needs to digitize the books and somehow hack everyones parlors or and media networks to distribute books. Maybe people will read them and realize how important they are. You can't burn something digital as well so if they were all on the internet it would be hard to censor people from veiwing them. 

The developments in the books are very interesting I am excited to see what Montag does moving foward especially with his knew knoloedge of bokos after his conversation with Faber.]]> 2020-11-18 18:23:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938159595 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938160230 I don't think this would work, because every fireman would have to be changed by this. I think that most firemen would not have a change of mind if they found the books, but I think they would figure out Montag was the one responsible. I think it would backfire and make things much worse. Again, the only way I think it could work is if every fireman ended up sitting down and reading those books, because they might change their opinion on books. It is not very likely for that to happen though, in my opinion. ]]> 2020-11-18 18:24:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938160230 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938160601 I don't think Montag's idea would work. I believe it wouldn't work because it seems like it would be a lot of work to break into firemen's houses and place the books. I also believe the citizen wouldn't buy the news firemen have books in their houses because they are brainwashed into believing whatever the media and government say. I think in order to save the dystopian society Montag must get some citizens to spread word about books and their power. This way more individuals would be aware about what is happening and what they can do.]]> 2020-11-18 18:24:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938160601 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938163212 Though I believe this idea could definitely cause a few firemen to realize what is going on in their society, I do not think it could turn all of them. Propaganda is a huge part of society and since these men know nothing else, I imagine many of them would choose not to go against the government, one which is all they know.  Though some men would have their eyes opened by these books, it would not be enough to bring the entire system down. A quote that relates to the way that their society is run says, "We are living in a time where flowers are trying to grow on flowers, instead of growing on good rain and black loam." I found this quote really interesting not only because of the word choice, but because it really showed the severity of dependency and dullness in their society. These people are living in a society where all they are taught is to cling to the idea of each day being the same. I feel like in order to save the society, Montag and Faber need to make copies of each of the books they have and place them in as many people's homes as possible. In this case it is clear that the government officials have taken years to perfect this idea of a dystopian society and ensure that citizens will not rebel, so for a rebellion to happen, they would need as many people as possible to join.]]> 2020-11-18 18:24:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938163212 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938163788 I don't think this strategy would work. People have already had these ideas integrated into their lives for years. As humans, we like habit, and when some outside source tries comes and tries to change something that has already been established, people have a hard time adjusting to it. The nature of each fireman is the same, even if they may believe different things internally. The only way this strategy would be successful is if every fireman was determined to find his own opinions and had an open mind about books. 
Toward the beginning of the novel, he stated: "And I though about books. And for the first time I realized that a man was behind each one of the books. A man had to think them up" (Bradbury, 49). If every fireman believed that and acted upon it, that strategy might work. The society would be much different because everybody would believe different things. In order for to save this Dystopian society, I feel that that Montag needs to address people individually with the situation, and explain to them why they need to be in agreement with such a movement. It will be hard to convince people after so many years of the same thing, but gathering large numbers of people to believe this may be effective. ]]> 2020-11-18 18:24:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938163788 annel0027 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938203386 I feel like Montag's idea of placing books at firemen's houses to try and bring the system down wouldn't work. I feel like the issue with this dystopian society is much deeper than the fact that firemen burn books. Even if firemen were caught with books in their homes, I doubt that it would ultimately bring the system down. In my opinion, the bigger issue is in the fast-paced and undiscerning way people in the society have been living their lives. Their lives have no meaning and they have no intention of attaining a deeper level of understanding and fulfillment. Faber states, "The televisor is 'real'. It is immediate, it has dimension. It tells you what to think and blasts it in. It must be right. It seems so right. It rushes you on so quickly to its own conclusions your mind hasn't time to protest, 'What nonsense!'" I think this dystopian society would only be saved once people realize the false reality they live in. Once they come to this realization, books can be reintegrated into the society. However, without this realization and openness to change, books wouldn't change anything.
I found it interesting how in this section we saw how Montag acted in order to learn more about books. He called Faber and went to have a conversation with him because he wanted to learn more. I think this is crucial because it shows how Montag continues to differentiate himself from the society.

]]> 2020-11-18 18:32:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/938203386 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/939467291 I don't think this would work. The system of beliefs isn't tied up with the firemen. The issue is the lies that people are being told about books. If firemen were found with books, the people would turn on them but immediately forget them when new firemen are hired. Their society is set up so people don't dwell on events that could provoke change. To change this society, one would need to dissolve the fear that surrounds books and the possibility of change. 
This is the first time Montag discusses ways to change their world. Everything leading up to this has been him questioning what he has been taught. Montag is now ready to fight their oppressive government. He goes to Faber to to discuss options and to learn. Montag even states "that's the good part of dying; when you've nothing to lose, you run any risk you want"(81). This shows how trapped Montag feels in his society. He compares it to dying. Montag knows there is he has worthwhile to live for, but there are things worth living for and he's willing to die trying to find it. ]]> 2020-11-19 01:23:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/939467291 https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/939921041 I think Montag's idea of placing books at firemen's houses to try and bring the system down is somewhat smart. It could start a conversation and possibly change the minds of some people. However, I do not think his idea would work completely. Successfully getting firemen to stop burning books would not fix this issue because the issue involved the entire society. The society has adapted to doing everything quickly and leaving no time to think. While referring to the televisor, Faber says, "'It tells you what to think and blasts it in. It must be right. It seems so right. It rushes you on so quickly to its own conclusions your mind hasn't time to protest,'" showing how the society lives their lives. I do not think planting books in anyone's houses could solve the problem, as they are very close minded and it would simply cause chaos. I think Montag needs to get the government involved and show how everyone is living compared to how they could live. Then, if the government understood that thinking and taking time for things was important, they could share that with the citizens, and people's minds could change. Someone with a lot of power has to expose the society to what they are missing, or else the people will not listen. In this section the reader is shown people who will not open their minds to books as well as people who are interested in what books have to offer. I think it is interesting because the reader can choose a side to the argument after seeing who supports what and why.]]> 2020-11-19 05:34:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jerhard/8iu64yy60yayt6m2/wish/939921041