https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3 Block 4 en-us 2019-09-04 17:14:37 UTC 2019-09-06 14:44:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380587287 I think the character Harrison Bergeron is a brave character because he was the only one who spoke his mind and tried to fight off against the  Government. I admire him for his courage to voice his opinion in a world where no one was able to do so. The fact that he is basically a god at the age of 14 concerns me because nobody matures like that. I think he is a hero, but the story portrays him as an antagonist since he is doing unorthodox things in the story. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:16:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380587287 plevitt1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380587559 2019-09-05 18:16:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380587559 aneal71 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588485 I think lifting anybody up who may be at and unfair advantage would be a good thing, but elevating everybody to the same level and stripping people of independent troubles leaves the world without competition, and no challenges can be overcome. Challenges and the way we overcome them build a person, and without them we are not much more than the same as everyone else.]]> 2019-09-05 18:17:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588485 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588550 2019-09-05 18:17:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588550 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588770 He is a different type of character as he strays away from the average hero in stories. He seemed cocky and boast about how nothing can hold him back and makes all these promises when he was so easily shot down. I do not admire him because he really only cares for himself. Harrison is not really a hero because he didn't save anyone and if anything he lead people on false hope and in the end all of them were either dead or were threatened to put back on their handicaps so I say that the story is hero less.]]> 2019-09-05 18:18:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588770 plevitt1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588922 2019-09-05 18:18:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380588922 ariley28 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589098 I think Harrison Bergeron is the hero of the story. The story is named after him and even though he meets an untimely demise, his intentions were to free the American people from their handicaps to reach their full potential. His brute character is sightly concerning, but overall I think all of his intentions were positive.]]> 2019-09-05 18:18:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589098 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589141 I think that Harrison Bergeron is not a Hero as the story is not built around him. The fact that he wants to rule the world instead of using his features to better the world sets him as more of a villain than anything else. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:18:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589141 jleighty1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589172 Yes, the two can work together! I want everyone to be treated fairly, but that don't mean that I don't want to be able to strive for excellence or perfection in my own life. It's kinda like pokemon, you want your whole team to have the same base stats, but then you level them up to be strong in different categories!]]> 2019-09-05 18:18:50 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589172 nwireman https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589284 I think Harrison Bergeron is an immature character but also a very strong individual. I only admire him for the fact that he was able to break free and immediately tried freeing others. His immaturity is concerning. I do think he is portrayed as the hero only for the fact of him breaking free and breaking others free from the handicaps.]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589284 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589359 Vonnegut is trying to satirize the growing need for people to feel equal. His purpose was to teach people that taking away people's advantages also takes away their personalities and identities. I believe that it is about freedom, individuality, equality and human excellence. These are all topics that are talked about in the novel.]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589359 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589421 I think that neither way would be as great as some would hope. I think that if they really couldn't figure out some way to stop competing, I think that slight handicaps and slight adjustment to the people could be reasonable. It would be better that bringing the best down to the level of the worst. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589421 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589606 No I do not believe the love of equality can be equal with competition and the pursuit of excellence. In order to be able to compete and strive for higher achievements people have to not be equal to someone who has achieved more than them.]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589606 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589662 It depends on the perspective of the reader and the writer. The reader may have had their own reasons of course when it came to perspective so their ideas on positives and lacking aspects are for the reader to interpret. In this case, the positive aspects of Vonnegut's America is that their is no war, no conflict, everyone is the same (literally) as there is no competition at all when it comes to strength, looks, beauty, grace, brains, etc. No one fights and technically, everyone is happy. However, what is lacking is the idea of freedom to think what ever you want (as you can't even think) and the idea of not being able to reach your full potential due to it being held down by the handicaps. Through this, no one is unique in characteristics compared to everyone in the society and can not reach their full potential of their talents making the world a better place which is a problem. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589662 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589690 2019-09-05 18:19:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589690 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589717 I don't think that Harrison is necessarily a hero. He acts like one (although barbaric), but he is immediately stopped by somebody else, which doesn't seem very heroic. His violence is concerning, but it makes sense given that he's just been locked up in different ways all his life.]]> 2019-09-05 18:19:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380589717 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590035 2019-09-05 18:20:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590035 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590042 I think, although Harrison Bergeron is the person that we should root for, he seems to cocky in the sense that he thinks he is a godly human being and is better than everybody else. I do not admire him because his foolishness killed him in the end. The main concern that I have with him is the way he acts. He seems to be too immature and does not know how to control his power. I think that the story is hero-less because the so called "hero" dies after a single gunshot. This was meant to show that even the strongest human couldn't overthrow the government.]]> 2019-09-05 18:20:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590042 plevitt1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590282 2019-09-05 18:20:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590282 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590290 2019-09-05 18:20:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590290 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590296 I personally believe that the love of equality is not compatible with competition, yet it is compatible with the pursuit of excellence. This is due to the fact that that equality leaves no room for excellence and it prevents people from competing over anything. I do believe that the love of equality is compatible with the pursuit of excellence. This is because excellence can still be achieved when there is equality. If everyone is equal, it does not mean that everyone is not equally as intelligent or motivated. These traits can help with the pursuit of excellence. For these reasons, I believe that the love of equality is not compatible with competition, but that it is compatible with the pursuit of excellence.]]> 2019-09-05 18:20:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590296 jtran41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590562 I think Harrison is a pseudo-hero. He is strong physically but lacks the toughness to withstand a single shot. He also doesn't have much mental awareness. I do not admire him because of his immaturity. He is portrayed as a "come-and-go" hero who tries too hard to fix too much.]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590562 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590584 I think lifting up the not-gifted is a better idea than bringer those who are down. This allows people who are naturally good at something the ability to use it. However, it is still not a good and growing society since there would be no creativity or individuality. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590584 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590758 I dont think that Harrison is portrayed as the hero of the story. He is shown as very powerful and strong but we don't see any of his other quality attributes. Even thugh he did rebel, he is easily controlled and even killed by others. So it doesn't show him as much of a hero.]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:23 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590758 aplisko https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590775 I admire Harrison because he shows independence and isn't afraid of what the community will do to him. But his courage concerns me because too much courage could cause more harm than good. He is portrayed as a hero because of his fearlessness and his representation to the people to show what could happen if there weren't any handicaps in the society.]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590775 kwoodward10 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590797 Vonnegut uses extreme forms of handicaps to emphasize how ridiculous a society like this would be to live in. He uses this to show that a radical form of equality such as the one in "Harrison Bergeron", would be worse than having no equality what so ever. The story emphasizes how important individuality is and how there must be balance in equality and letting one be them self. People who are not "normal" must use harsh and painful handicaps, greatly discouraging any sense of individuality.]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590797 aneal71 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590836 Vonnegut is satirizing people who believe that everyone should always be on equal levels. While most are not opposed to equalizing the playing field a little bit, completely removing advantages creates a world where hard work garners no positive results.]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380590836 ariley28 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591026 Equality can definitely be compatible with the pursuit of excellence and competition. By treating everybody fairly with equal rights and opportunities, those who shine can be fully recognized. Limiting people is not the solution!]]> 2019-09-05 18:21:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591026 ahernandezhernandez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591146 The society is satirized in this story. The characters are very clueless, that it is almost impossible to imagine a large amount of people acting like that. I think Vonnegut wrote this to show how people would rather lower their own qualities that make them unique, in order to avoid making other people feel bad about themselves. The author wrote about Harrison and the bellerina to show the purpose of individuality and how it is important to us, even if the society don't like that.]]> 2019-09-05 18:22:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591146 aperezmendoza1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591218 There are positive aspects of the society, for example, they are all equal which means no class level, no more saying you are rich to people or anything, everything is equal. Freedom is lacking in Vonnegut´s america, people aren´t free to think and say whatever they want, their creativity is gone, which means their minds can´t be free and think.]]> 2019-09-05 18:22:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591218 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591387 I think that it is is possible to have both. I think that people would first have to accept that all people are born differently. That doesn't mean that people can't love and that people can't excel. if everyone uses their differences to love and accept the lack of equality, everyone with achieve excellence]]> 2019-09-05 18:22:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591387 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591652 I would object if society was trying to make everyone equal through technology because that would make them, less human. It would turn into a Brave New World situation where people are forced to have a certain amount of knowledge before they can begin to have a single thought.]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591652 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591690 I think Harrison Bergeron deserved a second chance and was killed off unfairly. I don't very much admire him but I do respect that he went outside and disobeyed the laws because he felt himself to be isolated. It does concern that he stomp in and take charge quickly, he could've waited a while and his plan would've worked out. I think he was potrayed as heroless because at the end he ended up losing his battle to the government.]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591690 jleighty1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591768 At the start of the story, the tone isn't all that bad! It's neutral, simply describing what's happened, and lacking any strong emotion. However, the three-ish?? paragraphs after he was shot, the author takes on a condescending, unhappy tone. The author returns to the same neutral tone, making that single spot of emotion stand out more. By making the emotional stand out, the meaning of the story is intensified as a warning against severe limitations. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:12 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591768 nwireman https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591844 I would not object only if it wasn't dehumanizing everyone who aren't gifted. It could potentially lead to other issues such as no diversity in work places or schools, since students would be as smart as the teachers.]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591844 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591910 I think the author satirized the story to emphasis how much people fight for equality which is good but can lead to a dull society. Without individuality there would be no creativity or knowledge. The author touches on equality and individuality to state his point.]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591910 bdick3 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591929 I think Harrison is a very one-dimensional character. We are not given any insight to his character or personality, we are only shown that he is very strong and powerful. I do not admire him, although he is very talented he is clearly very dangerous and rude to everyone he encounters. He is portrayed as a dangerous, loose-canon rebel by the story. 

]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380591929 egarciasegundo1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592057 Me personally, I would not object to the idea of it. With the only exception being only mentally handicapped people can lift their mind. 

]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592057 ariley28 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592144 There are really no positive aspects to this society. Even though everybody is equal, there is no individuality, creativity, intellect, etc. It created a dumb, boring, drab society with no variance whatsoever. It lacks way more than it has.]]> 2019-09-05 18:23:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592144 prao11 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592400 Equality is definitely compatible with competition and the pursuit of excellence. However, it depends on the context of equality. If one takes it to mean “the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities”, then they can co-exist because there is nothing in that definition relating to people’s abilities. People can have varying abilities with different skill levels while still being equal. In Harrison’s case, they government took the phrase “All men are created equal” too seriously and they took that to include physical appearance and intelligence. However, as long as people have the same status, rights, and opportunities, there is no reason why they cannot strive for excellence and to outshine one another.

]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:13 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592400 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592468 I don't think that I would object if society sought equality by lifting the non gifted. I think that way people would not have to suffer the consequences of something that they can't control. 

]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592468 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592477 The tone shifts because in the beginning the author wants the readers to be curious and interested in what Harrison is about to do. In the end of the story when Harrison gets killed it switches to a more disappointed tone because Harrison did not make a great enough stand. This showed that in the end of the story, nobody really cared or felt sorry towards Harrison.]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592477 pspetrini1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592684 I don't think that Harrison is necessarily a hero. He acts like one (although barbaric), but he is immediately stopped by somebody else, which doesn't seem very heroic. His violence is concerning, but it makes sense given that he's just been locked up in different ways all his life.]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:41 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592684 akurz1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592697 Equality means that everyone is given the same opportunities. These opportunities can be competed for with the intent to strive for excellence.]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592697 bdick3 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592701 In Harrison Bergeron, Vonnegut seeks to satirize equality. He is showing that "all men are created equal" as stated in the constitution, can be dangerous if held to an authoritarian extreme.]]> 2019-09-05 18:24:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592701 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592948 The tone of the story shifts from majestic and beautiful to just normal and happy. I say this because half the time, George is losing a thought he just had and his wife is nowhere near as smart as him so they just go back to being blissfully happy. This highlights the story's main idea of ignorance because one would think that when a loved one dies, the story would shift into a melancholy state, but in this dystopia, that would never happen because of these handicaps .]]> 2019-09-05 18:25:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380592948 pspetrini1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593020 The author used exaggerated examples of what society would be like if everyone were truly equal to show that life like this would actually be horrible. It is about individuality. Everyone is unique and has the potential to be amazing, but life like in "Harrison Bergeron" would not be living up to our potential as humans.]]> 2019-09-05 18:25:11 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593020 psaulnier https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593125 People have the ability to love and strive for equality, as well as competition. These ideals are not unreasonably far fetched. It only is difficult because people have a hard time believing it.]]> 2019-09-05 18:25:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593125 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593416 2019-09-05 18:25:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593416 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593473 I would object if society sought equality through genetic engineering or biotechnological enhancement. This is because I believe that this is no different than them handicapping people. These people would not be able to choose these lives, and would not be given the opportunity to decide if they wanted to receive these characteristics. Due to this, I believe that it is inhumane to attempt to modify a person without their consent. I believe that they should have the choice to enhance their talents, but that society should not seek to impose this requirement on all citizens. For this reason, I would be opposed if society sought to lift the not-gifted through genetic engineering and biotechnological enhancement.]]> 2019-09-05 18:25:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593473 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593509 Well, Harrison Bergeron breaks through his handicaps and is brave enough to do this in front of the whole society through TV. He is brave enough to showcase his talents and show what life can be like without the handicaps reaching the fullest of potential showing everyone what this can be like. I think of him as a hero and I admire him for his bravery and courage to actually do that in front of the society directly opposing their ideas. Although there are some aspects when it comes to ]]> 2019-09-05 18:25:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380593509 egarciasegundo1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594059 There really isn't anything positive to this society. Sure everyone is equal but not in a good way. No one can express who they are as a person. No one can explain what they have to offer to society. It's all the same and that's what the society is lacking in.

]]> 2019-09-05 18:26:47 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594059 akurz1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594527 We see Harrison break free of his handicaps. It allows him to show off what himself and others have the potential to do. Although this seems like an act of heroism and a change for the greater good, it comes of as arrogant and prideful.]]> 2019-09-05 18:27:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594527 nwireman https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594574 Yes, it is possible to be equal and have competition as well with the pursuit of excellence. However, if everyone is (literally) equal then it will always be a tie in the end.]]> 2019-09-05 18:27:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594574 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594710 The pros are that there is no competition and everybody is essentially equal and not feeling rejected. Since everybody has the same rights and privlidges the economy is stable and hapyy. The downside of of Vonnegut's America is there is absoulutely no creativity or orignality. There is no way to improve or add new inventions, new ideas if everybody was the same. Life would be bland and boring. Even though there are positives, the negatives outway them by a lot.]]> 2019-09-05 18:27:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594710 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594799 V]]> 2019-09-05 18:27:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594799 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594810 The idea of being "equal" is being dramatized and shows that it is ignorant way of thinking. In this story we are shown how Vonnegut feels about everyone being equal and that he wants the readers to know that it is something that will not work out with our society. It is to show that it's not really possible because everyone is born into different situations and people will be born with a bigger advantage than someone else. It can show that that individuality is something to be appreciated rather than trying to fit into society because someone who has a less advantage can become something great if they put in the effort rather than someone who had it given to them and that what makes people different. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:27:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380594810 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595042 I do think this entire story was satirized because of all the humor while dealing with difficult stories like Harrison being shot and watching ballerina's fall to their feet. The author's purpose was to show how little people truly cared about each other. I think the story is about human excellence because the government wanted everyone to be average so there was no competition against each other. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:28:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595042 psaulnier https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595162 The tone of the story shifts from the free feeling of the dancers when Harrison gets shot. It then shifts into a lighthearted comedy, as his parents are messing around and talking as if nothing happened.This conveys the meaning of control and the central idea that making everyone equal lowers the bar.]]> 2019-09-05 18:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595162 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595234 I would object to the lifting up of the  non-gifted. If one starts to alter someones life, then there is no point to live. An example is BNW, everyone's life was meaningless because their life was already planned. Also, this would just be a smarter version of the society before hand.]]> 2019-09-05 18:28:37 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595234 bdick3 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595386 Uplifting the capability and quality of life of citizens is absolutely a positive thing. However, I would not support this genetic engineering or advancement unless it was completely optional and also widely available. People should be able to choose whether or not they are forced to undergo enhancements or detriments. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:28:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595386 pspetrini1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595471 The tone of the story shifts after Harrison and the ballerina are shot. Before this, "normal" people such as Hazel and George are living life as they usually do. When they recognize Harrison on the television, they are worried and watch intently, but before they can worry too much about it, they forget. They watched their son die and yet moments later, they've forgotten, and the tone shifts to something a bit more upsetting than before, what with Hazel crying and not remembering why.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595471 agupta41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595586 To be honest I would not object if society sought equality by raising the not so gifted rather than to lower the gifted. My main reason for saying this because when the government handicapped the gifted, they are essentially being tortured because of something that was never their choice, but when the help the non gifted, no one is losing anything so the chance of people rebelling will be lower.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595586 jtran41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595625 I believe that even lifting the non-gifted will not work, although it would be less severe than the insanely gifted. The non-gifted should work hard to get to the level the gifted work because then, they have the ability to persevere. Giving them genetic enhancements will not teach those fundamental concepts. They should choose their fate through their actions and words, not having help getting there without deserving the intelligence.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595625 kwoodward10 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595724 Compared to using terrible handicaps on people, using genetics and science to better people would be a much more helpful solution that would probably cause less people to revolt. Making people equal by genetic enhancement and not handicapping people would be a more morally pure approach.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595724 aplisko https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595751 In Vonnegut's America, there are some positive aspects to it such as there won't be any competition to who's better. Everyone will feel the same and won't be envious towards a specific person who looks or does things better than they do. But of course, there are cons in the society such as that everyone won't be unique or free to be what they are. The talented or the beautiful won't be able to appreciate their charms because of the harsh conditions in the society.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595751 aperezmendoza1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595795 The tone in the beginning is definitely calm, even though what they are talking about the tone is casual, when the ballerina scene pops up it gets dark and the mood changes drastically]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595795 aneal71 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595931 I greatly admire the character itself. He manages to see past the facade of the society he has grown up in and not only notice he has more power, but fully realize it and take control of his true potential. He also shows the way to others, almost like a messiah type figure.]]> 2019-09-05 18:29:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380595931 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596169 After Harrison gets shot, there is an eerie calmness in the tone of the text. The fact that Harrison's parents just watched him get shot and had no memory of what happened makes the reader feel queasy. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:30:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596169 wko https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596394 Well, Harrison Bergeron breaks through his handicaps and is brave enough to do this in front of the whole society through TV. He is brave enough to showcase his talents and show what life can be like without the handicaps reaching the fullest of potential showing everyone what this can be like. I think of him as a hero and I admire him for his bravery and courage to actually do that in front of the society directly opposing their ideas. Although there are some aspects when it comes to his character as he has a very brute manner in doing this (when he states "I am the Emperor!!"), he still showcases this possibly showing to the world what life could be like.]]> 2019-09-05 18:30:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596394 jleighty1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596440 If the government came out with a way to help those who suffer from chronic illnesses, handicaps, or mental disabilities, I'd be overjoyed! That technology could fix blindness, cure paralysis, and correct hearing loss, among many others! However, the question then becomes how much is too much? Are we going to be able to stick to just fixing what's broken? Or are we going to try and fix what's perfectly intact? Are we going to try and enhance our bodies beyond what should be possible? If that happens, then I would strike it down. The human body doesn't need to be enhanced any more than it can handle. Think of the repercussions! If you enhance eyesight, you could run the risk of brain issues. If you make your muscles able to carry a thousand pounds, what would be the impact on your skeleton? What I'm trying to say is that if society only lifted those that needed it, I would be more than happy to support it. If they started lifting everyone, then it becomes the principle of, "When everybody's super, nobody is,". (Yes, I quoted The Incredibles, fight me)]]> 2019-09-05 18:30:41 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596440 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596530 2019-09-05 18:30:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596530 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596541 I find Harrison Bergeron's character to be very interesting. I feel that he is powerful and could be very influential, but that he is also mentally unstable. He appears almost crazed in this story, yet he still manages to rally people. I believe that he illustrates the insanity that comes to people who are gifted, as they are given so many handicaps that weigh them down. Without his handicaps, I believe that he would be a great leader; however, with them, he is too overwhelmed to be a leader. For this reason, I believe that although he is portrayed as a hero, this story is actually heroless. A hero is able to rally people through their actions and language; Harrison rallies them through intimidation. He is also ultimately destroyed.]]> 2019-09-05 18:30:50 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596541 prao11 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596614 Vonnegut’s America is a country where nobody can outshine one another. They are all equivalent in every single aspect of society such as intelligence, beauty, athletics, and more. While it sounds absolutely awful to us, there are still some pros about this society. For example, with everyone being equal to one another, nobody can feel inferior because somebody else has better capabilities than them. By doing this, they create many cons such as lack of competition. With everybody being the same, competitions are unnecessary because there can be no winner if everybody has the same skill. This doesn’t allow anybody to strive for excellence or to make any advancements in society because they do not have the intelligence required to do so. By trying to create a perfect America, they created an even worse version of America because it is lacking competition and the pursuit of excellence.

]]> 2019-09-05 18:30:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596614 akurz1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596709 Although the idea of improving others may seem ideal, it has repercussions. It can lead to some feeling weak or insecure about the fact that they needed to be enhanced. People should be happy for who they are; they do not need to change!]]> 2019-09-05 18:31:03 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380596709 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597337 Vonnegut is satirizing the need for people  to "fit in" and be just like everyone else. I think Vonnegut wrote this to show the world why it is okay to have some people be better than others in certain aspects of life. After all, these traits help people learn from their mistakes and become a better person.]]> 2019-09-05 18:32:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597337 prao11 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597428 While making everybody a genius is undoubtedly good, it would still not be a perfect society and there would be objection. With elevating everybody, even though they are all smart, they would still all be the same which again leads to a lack of creativity and competition. Problems would be eradicated for the time being, but they only escalate along with the intelligence of the people. Soon, the problems will get out of hand and with no desire to strive for the pursuit of excellence. they will be again faced with more problems which they cannot solve.

]]> 2019-09-05 18:32:18 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597428 nrobertson32 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597770 Vonnegut's america is one that has progressed to attempt to achieve a utopia. In doing this, they are also created a distopia for the great number of people who are constantly burdened with their handicaps. A positive aspect is that people are not competing. They are lacking individuality and opportunities or greatness among the people. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597770 wko https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597775 Don't get me wrong, I think it is a great idea to lift the not-gifted up through biotechnological enhancement or genetic engineering. However, there are some fine lines that this should not cross such as the fact that the non-gifted should have certain abilities that characterize them in a unique way compared to someone else. If it crosses that line to the point now everyone is the exact same with the exact talents and abilities, I would object since life would be boring as there is no longer any unique human beings anymore with unique talents to better the world. So it works both ways.]]> 2019-09-05 18:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597775 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597869 I wouldn't object but the question how much will they engineer them? to be perfect just like everyone else or lower than the others, It's better but we have to see how much are they going to engineer.  ]]> 2019-09-05 18:33:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380597869 aperezmendoza1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380598395 I would object, only because it is the same thing as handicapping the gifted. You take part of their freedom and creativity. It may be a good idea such as the inventions of things that could be made with smarter people, but it isn´t worth the freedom.]]> 2019-09-05 18:33:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380598395 afeser https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599125 I believe that although there are no   wars and violence, the world Harrison lives in is far from good.  By restricting people of their own thoughts and ideas, you limit creativity and emotion.  I think that the reason there is no conflict isn't just because everyone is equal, but because no one cares enough to speak up.  They are all mindless and like zombies just following commands that make their lives worse.  Once again I don't think that Vonnegut's America is anything close to good and it is no ideal place to live in
.]]> 2019-09-05 18:34:58 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599125 kwoodward10 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599302 Equality, competition, and the pursuit of excellence can all coexist but there has to be balance. I believe equality is everyone having the same rights and opportunities as everyone else. With that in mind, competition also applies but under different circumstances. Not everyone will get 1st place in a race, most likely the one who tried the hardest and trained the most will get there. Everyone still has the right to compete and work towards that award, competition doesn't change that. In regards of excellence, excellence should be a personal pursuit, trying to better ones own self as a person in general.]]> 2019-09-05 18:35:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599302 agupta41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599343 In my opinion the love of equality will never be compatible with competition, due to many reasons. One of these is the fact that the basic root of competition is caused by someone being better than someone else, someone will win and the other will lose. This concept of one winning but the other losing can't occur if everyone was the same, due to the fact that if you wanted to win you had to be better than the rest.]]> 2019-09-05 18:35:18 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599343 jtran41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599527 The love of equality can work with competition and pursuing excellence. There just needs to be an equal opportunity to own that excellence and have the right to do what their passion is. Competition can bring out the best of people.]]> 2019-09-05 18:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599527 akinney8 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599534 I think Harrison Bergeron does hold characteristics for a hero. He does end up doing the noble thing of showing the society what they are missing by getting rid of all his disablement. I would not admire him personally but he obviously is one of the strongest characters in this story because he has many things on him preventing him from being more powerful.I could see him portrayed as a hero because he died to prove a point against their society.]]> 2019-09-05 18:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599534 slimaye1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599947 2019-09-05 18:36:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380599947 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380600182 Vonnegut's America seems devoid of any freedom and enjoyment. However, there are some positive aspects. The citizens seem like their life is lived without much control (besides the handicaps) and seems mostly happy because they don't remember anything. This society is lacking a lot. All of the citizens seems extremely uneducated and one cannot express themselves.]]> 2019-09-05 18:36:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380600182 aplisko https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380600347 I wouldn't object if the society decided to lift up the not-gifted because everyone should be given the chance to feel equal with another person. But of course, it would mean to take away the society's uniqueness and independence so technically it wouldn't be a good society either because of sameness that will happen throughout the society. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:36:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380600347 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601147 In]]> 2019-09-05 18:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601147 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601152 We all want to be equal but everyone is there own person, better at some things than the next person. We can want excellence and stay equal at the same time because everyone will eventually succeed and leave the other behind.]]> 2019-09-05 18:38:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601152 sbhatnagar1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601187 I think the tone takes dark tone as soon as Harrison is introduced in the text and after he gets shot, the text gets a sinister calmness in the text. The sentence structure goes from being elaborate and eloquent to basic and simple. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:38:14 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380601187 egarciasegundo1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380602958 The courageous attitude that Harrison displayed towards the end makes him hero for sure. He died fighting for his freedom; thus, he died with honor. I respect Harrison for doing that. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:41:27 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380602958 ahernandezhernandez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603010 In Vonnegut's America, people are handicapped if they have a greater quality than everyone else, whether it is talent or appearence. By making everyone equal, in this case lowering everyone to the same level, makes them believe that no one is special. No one can believe that they are better than someone else, which is kind of good because that way people won't have problems with eachother. That is the only good that brings from this society, but what lacks is happiness. Even if you make everyone equal, nobody is truly happy because is born diffently to find their own happiness in life. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:41:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603010 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603684 The only pros are equality but it serves as an example that no one can truly be equal. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:42:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603684 sbhatnagar1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603778 I think that Harrison is not the Hero of the story but is actually a visual representation of what would happen if the rules of the society were not obeyed and what happens when one is kept under control too much. His character turned out to be contrary to what I thought it would be and his want to rule the world concerned me as a leader like him would destroy peace and create havoc. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:43:06 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380603778 agupta41 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604171 Some positive aspect of this version of the future is that there is no longer any competition because all the people who are better than others have some handicaps that lowers their potential a lot. The only thing lacking in this society is the right for someone to be themselves. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:43:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604171 lfelixgonzalez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604306 The tone shifts into a funny and almost happy. This shifts the story to be more satire than an actual sad story, the ending contributes how messed up this society really is ]]> 2019-09-05 18:44:02 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604306 apadilla71 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604449 In Vonnegut's America society, there are positive and negative aspects. The positive aspect of his society is that all people are equal. If everyone is equal, nobody will feel as if they don't belong. The negative aspect of Vonnegut's America would be that no one will be able to show how they really feel. People won't be able to show something that's unique about themselves. They're limited to what they can say/do.]]> 2019-09-05 18:44:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380604449 sbhatnagar1 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380605611 I think that I would be fine with the society lifting up the standard to be considered equal but I don't think that it would be any better that way as everyone would be the same so one would not know if they are smart or dumb. On the other hand, It would also be a good thing as people would not have to live through the consequences of something they had no control over. ]]> 2019-09-05 18:46:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380605611 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380606885 Vonnegut's America is where they have lowered their standards of "average" and if you are above average then you are given a handicap to balance you out to their society. The only positive thing in this society I guess would be that they will probably live a peaceful life but at a cost. The citizens are not allowed individuality and freedom mainly. People are born to stand out and for them trying so hard to make everyone the same doesn't give everyone a way for them to be different. Also their is no real human relationships as shown by how Harrison's parents didn't even notice that their son was killed on tv. They weren't even allowed to be sad because Hazel is "average" and George had his handicap that stopped him from thinking. It is not really a society but more of like sheep in a fence that all they do is walk around and eat and stay inside the fence.]]> 2019-09-05 18:48:46 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380606885 ahernandezhernandez https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380609405 I enjoyed all the scenes with Harrison. For me, he is someone people could look up to, maybe something like "If I can become someone great, then you could too!" is what I felt about him when he showed up. Even if he seems like a person to look up too, although his ego is very high. The reason why this kind of society was made was to not have people like Harrison, who believed they could rule others just because he was born "better" and nobody could stand a chance against him. He is potrayed as a hero in the story because he stood up against the society that restrains people from being themselves, even if he got killed in the end.]]> 2019-09-05 18:53:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380609405 apadilla71 https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380610309 Harrison Bergeron seems like he is a very bold and courageous character. I wouldn't say I would admire him, but I think other people would admire him because they think that he would stand up for himself and he wants to be different. His character seems troublesome because he caused a commotion. Harrison isn't really portrayed as a hero in this story because he was a character who did rebel against the rules.]]> 2019-09-05 18:55:29 UTC https://padlet.com/jenyoung/7gf3qklmyqb3/wish/380610309