https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy en-us 2023-10-23 01:35:40 UTC 2023-10-26 23:59:03 UTC hello@padlet.com ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758228899 Context: 
Beauty and the Beast story
- General things about her autonomy/choice that are true in most versions
Problem/Question:
- Okay she makes the choice, but WHY?
- What are the implications behind her wanting to sacrifice herself?
- Is her sacrifice empowering?
- Differences in retellings?
Response:
- Not as empowering as we think (first versions), but have we made it better (new versions), can we even make it better (critics)?

]]> 2023-10-23 01:51:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758228899 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758237669 - Quotes about Beauty's choice in the first version
- How does this show that her decision is influenced by patriarchal ideas?
- Something about women's worth in relation to men
- Her purpose is to save both men because their lives are worth more?? 
- Quote from Liberman about this being a mainstream tale so what this reveals about female worth could be dangerous
- MAKE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A SOUND MIND ABOUT WHAT TO BELIEVE (even still do not underestimate the power of media)
- Maybe something about Colette Dowling and rehabilitative readings]]> 2023-10-23 01:59:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758237669 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758247836 - Why does she make her choice in tale of the rose and Beauty and the chad?
- Is this really any better, why/why not?
- Does this demonstrate what Rowe was talking about (power of fairytales for equity among men and women)?]]> 2023-10-23 02:06:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758247836 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758257066 - Isn't it empowering that she has a choice in the first place, especially when most mainstream tales feature passive women (Liberman vs Laurie)?

- Does it really make it any less of "her choice" (less empowering) if she's doing it FOR the men, SO WHAT?

- If I argue that newer versions are slightly better.... shouldn't that be enough???]]> 2023-10-23 02:12:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758257066 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758262202 Okay.... so what?
- Why is this conversation important?
- What can we do?
- Is there anything left to do?
- In comparison to other female characters, Beauty is pretty active, so shouldn't we focus on other tales? why/why not?]]> 2023-10-23 02:16:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758262202 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758269151 - Rowe 
- Haase
- Beauty and The Chad
- Tale of the rose? (can get complicated because the beast does not end up being a man, but maybe we can broaden the scope to how the matriarch must put everyone about her, husband (dad), kids (sisters) etc and Beauty still puts the Beast above herself even though the Beast is not a man]]> 2023-10-23 02:21:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758269151 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758272497 - Beaumont
- Liberman (be sure to acknowledge how some of her ideas are outdated)
- Laurie?]]> 2023-10-23 02:23:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758272497 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758283014 - Is this undermining the fact that she has a choice at all?
- What is a choice worth if it is not for the right reasons?
- What does this mean for "feminism" in relation to how heroic female characters are portrayed?]]> 2023-10-23 02:31:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758283014 ctknight https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758295159 Some may believe that Beauty’s role as the “hero” in many versions of Beauty and the Beast is a display of attacking patriarchal ideals and empowerment for female characters. However, I believe that it can be argued that oftentimes, her “saving the day” and her motivations for doing so are not as empowering as one may think. By looking at several versions of the famous "Beauty and the Beast" tale, I will explore both why the main character makes her choice, and what these implications mean for feminism in fairytales, and the real world. ]]> 2023-10-23 02:41:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ctknight/7ankxs6iinf7nvgy/wish/2758295159