https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l Made with love and consideration en-us 2018-05-25 16:04:45 UTC 2026-02-20 07:47:18 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825589 Current system is meaningless as it reduces opps to give meaningful feedback]]> 2018-06-06 08:58:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825589 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825624 Q1 prefer responding to feedback. Need 4 descriptors not 5. Meeting deadlines too specific is a subset of organisation. Don't like OK]]> 2018-06-06 08:58:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825624 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825634 What is a deadline? The beginning of a lesson as well as assignment deadlines]]> 2018-06-06 08:58:56 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825634 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825644 The use of serious concern is good but thatshould  open a new conversation ]]> 2018-06-06 08:59:01 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825644 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825758 We like engagement in classwork]]> 2018-06-06 08:59:38 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825758 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825770 Serious concerns should be linked to support plans in order to give it meaning Astro what is causing concern.]]> 2018-06-06 08:59:43 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825770 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825826 Meeting deadlines is much clearer than the previous ]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:01 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825826 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825832 Should they be acomment  box for serious concerns ]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:04 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825832 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825865 ‘Responding to advice’ - might be slightly vague - advice could be regarding attendance/punctuality or a academic issues. Might be worth focusing this on academic advice. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:16 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825865 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825874 4 rather than 5. OK is not good enough anyway.]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:18 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825874 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825893 Responding to advice - not comfortable with this as it implies we have unquestionable authority - different advice for different students. What kind of advice?]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:23 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825893 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825900 An improvement. Adding a numerical score to subjective measures is always problematic. 
Separate headings for lesson prep/independent study and review tasks
Would be better if it were less subjective, ie " completes 90% of homework"]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:28 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825900 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825975 We like the new proposal but think there should be a punctuality option]]> 2018-06-06 09:00:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265825975 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826050 Study support do not find the current criteria meaningful as they find it harsh to comment on due to the typeof  learners they work with ]]> 2018-06-06 09:01:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826050 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826062 Better with more options]]> 2018-06-06 09:01:19 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826062 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826094 5 grades is so much better. Change ok to a slightly more passively aggressive ‘adequate’

]]> 2018-06-06 09:01:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826094 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826123 Effectiveness of independent learning would be better than engagement with, as students may waste hours with being effective]]> 2018-06-06 09:01:44 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826123 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826176 Descriptors are much better.]]> 2018-06-06 09:02:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826176 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826367 The proposal is more nuanced than current practise. Could we replace the bottom one. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826367 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826382 Independent learning is not a tight enough term, you be confused with independent study which for us is pre lesson work]]> 2018-06-06 09:03:24 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826382 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826388 Good to separate organisation and punctality

Engagement better than effort as recognises quiet students who are engaged but not answering questions etc

Responding to advice good - encourages proactive approach 

Some don't like ok as students if meeting MEG are good, if below there are concerns. We like some worries as suggests small concerns. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:03:28 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826388 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826422 2018-06-06 09:03:40 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826422 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826464 Like the idea of replacing effort in class with engagement in class. How do you actually measure effort? Measuring engagement is important for parents to see. Key needs to be specific to engagement - 1 = fully engaged, asks questions, involved in discussions etc. GCSE new grading system.....the higher the number the higher the grade. Can we replicate this?]]> 2018-06-06 09:03:52 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826464 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826468 Optional text box for 4/5 issues so that further developed comments can be made if needed.]]> 2018-06-06 09:03:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826468 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826638 Comment boxes for further comments if required]]> 2018-06-06 09:04:52 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826638 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826955 Single grades with qualifier allows more precision. Good idea. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:06:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826955 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826968 No - we don't like it]]> 2018-06-06 09:06:56 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826968 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826999 Better and can help motivation and Woking towards targets.]]> 2018-06-06 09:07:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265826999 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827049 15 grades much better for a 2 year journey. Students can see the progress made hopefully. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:07:19 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827049 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827050 Could be motivational, but implies a level of precision and accuracy which teacher assessment may not have]]> 2018-06-06 09:07:20 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827050 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827059 Being a "minus" feels really negative, even an A-]]> 2018-06-06 09:07:23 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827059 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827168 Can we just have A or A+? It's motivational ]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:05 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827168 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827203 Like this idea. Gives student a clearer message about their achievement. Motivational for students to help them work towards the next grade.]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:17 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827203 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827209 What if not all staff are using this?]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:19 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827209 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827245 We'd prefer C, C/B, B, etc]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:34 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827245 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827273 How can you distinguish the difference between a B+ compared to a A-? ]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:48 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827273 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827285 Can make it easier. As a student might not be straight B at a particular point in my the year. Overall helps judgment in terms of how close to targets and extra effort required.]]> 2018-06-06 09:08:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827285 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827306 Doesn't work for BTec grades as point based. 
Prefer B/A to A- as suggests current grade is B but could get an A whereas A- suggests student is A grade.]]> 2018-06-06 09:09:01 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827306 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827385 Might be viewed as childish by some. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:09:27 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827385 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827524 Gives a wider grading spectrum in someways  more similar to new GCSE]]> 2018-06-06 09:10:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827524 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827542 I like this. In maths we have lots of data on where they are so would be easy to assign these grades.]]> 2018-06-06 09:10:19 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827542 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827585 2018-06-06 09:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827585 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827659 Do we use a U? ]]> 2018-06-06 09:10:59 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827659 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827681 Will there have to be specific numbers related to the grade variations? There would be confusion if not. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:11:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827681 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827691 Feels old-fashioned ]]> 2018-06-06 09:11:11 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265827691 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828134 Ipg hard t be accurate in first term]]> 2018-06-06 09:13:55 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828134 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828490 No, no, no]]> 2018-06-06 09:15:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828490 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828615 Very hard to predict a grade early on in the year.]]> 2018-06-06 09:16:15 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828615 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828668 Really strongly disagree with this - likely to be biased, gendered. Compromises the validity of th IPG.]]> 2018-06-06 09:16:30 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828668 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828725 Demotivating if they are below MEG, false confidence if above]]> 2018-06-06 09:16:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828725 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828736 Are IPGs necessary?  ]]> 2018-06-06 09:16:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828736 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828743 Promotes fixed mindset]]> 2018-06-06 09:16:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828743 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828774 A shared IPG won't be always a honest reflection from the teacher]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828774 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828793 Why do we have IPG if students and parents don't see them? What is the purpose of it?]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:11 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828793 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828838 NO! Should remain as internal prediction. So much of the course is still to be covered this can never be an accurate prediction. Labelling the student and is demotivating. Why were they brought in in the first place? No one seems clear on this.]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:25 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828838 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828861 Maybe:
1. Grade they would get if they sat an exam on what they have covered
2. Grade you expect if they improve and follow feedback
3. Honest predicated grade, not shared]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828861 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828893 If they have MEGS and a current grade and an IPG plus their own target grade, is this too many grades?]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:48 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828893 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828896 Damages student - teacher relationship]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828896 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828897 With new spec we are not yet secure in our predictions so would not be accurate]]> 2018-06-06 09:17:50 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828897 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828939 Telling students a single grade early in the course without the nuanced discussion that goes along with that is a really bad idea]]> 2018-06-06 09:18:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828939 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828975 They can improve on a current grade through hard work - can't improve on a fixed prediction ]]> 2018-06-06 09:18:17 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265828975 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829024 What are our judgements for the IPGs based on?  If they are different to the meg, there is a justification to be made ]]> 2018-06-06 09:18:37 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829024 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829174 Possible conflict whenIPG differs from UCAS prediction]]> 2018-06-06 09:19:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829174 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829196 Not comfortable with giving IPGs. How can we predict student effort. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:19:50 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829196 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829233 Very hard to be accurate in first year. Also, would them going public lead to a less accurate grade? What is the purpose of an IPG.? We already have UCAS grades which are public and should be accurate. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:20:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829233 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829307 Can we have some clarity about what IPGs are currently used for please? ]]> 2018-06-06 09:20:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829307 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829321 Not bothered either way. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:20:46 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829321 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829374 This needs to be consistent across departments or it’s meaningless and/or confusing for students.]]> 2018-06-06 09:21:09 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829374 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829539 Students used to GCSE predicted grades so not new system. However, current grade more realistic. Students respond differently to the motivation of a predicted grade. Depends on the subject and grade - some students might find the IPG demoralising if it's low.  Current grades are subject to change so can vary from term to term. If current grade is a C and all work reflects that, can we actually predict a B? May be hard to justify to students/parents an IPG if they don't reach it, whereas current grade is realistic. IPG makes us accountable. What do other colleges do? We already have MEG - confusing if current, IPG and MEG all different.  MEG is predicted (aspirational) grade.  With new courses difficult to predict grades until we have more mark schemes and grade boundaries after exams. Students can focus too much on grades rather than how to improve.]]> 2018-06-06 09:22:07 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829539 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829549 Is there a freedom of information issue? Presumably students can ask to see IPG]]> 2018-06-06 09:22:11 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829549 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829633 Is an IPG an MCP [management control  procedure]?]]> 2018-06-06 09:22:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829633 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829684 Maybe use the time used to write the IPGs to discuss progress with individual students instead?]]> 2018-06-06 09:23:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829684 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829725 If this is our predicted grade, what if students does not attain it ?]]> 2018-06-06 09:23:24 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829725 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829866 2018-06-06 09:24:25 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265829866 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834256 Punctuality and attendance should be on there but would be best included automatically from their current data.
Number and RAG rating as already shown on advantage to inform parents.
Responding to advice great new category as addresses issues that couldn't be covered before.
Effort better term than engagement as very quiet students can still put in effort.
Some concerns better term than some worries.
Average possibly better term than OK]]> 2018-06-06 09:48:25 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834256 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834272 "Some concerns" instead of "some worries]]> 2018-06-06 09:48:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834272 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834462 Why has punctuality been replaced? It can be a separate issue but it’s an important one]]> 2018-06-06 09:49:38 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834462 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834483 Will ther a fig for punctuality?]]> 2018-06-06 09:49:48 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834483 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834682 We think OK should be replaced with Acceptable]]> 2018-06-06 09:50:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834682 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834760 Engagement with - too vague. Could this be replaced with active involvement?]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:18 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834760 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834799 "Some concerns" instead of "some worries" for consistency of language]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:25 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834799 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834815 We seem to have lost punctuality, thisshould  appear as a percentage. Along with attendance for each individual subject.]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834815 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834860 Change outstanding to very good or excellent. Outstanding is too big a jump from good.]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:47 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834860 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834864 I think the marks should not be 1-5. Instead, could we have meeting expectations, not
Meeting expectations, outperforming expectations]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:48 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834864 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834866 Responding to feedback instead of advice]]> 2018-06-06 09:51:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834866 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834935 Like the responding advice. It is often the problem. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:52:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834935 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834970 Anecdotally many parents don't bother to look, aren't aware they exist]]> 2018-06-06 09:52:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265834970 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835002 We think there is a problem with 'independent' because it means both homework and wider, healthy study/research, etc. A student might be doing all their homework, but in Psychology that Lone would give a top grade.]]> 2018-06-06 09:52:29 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835002 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835033 We like the five categories, esp having the OK]]> 2018-06-06 09:52:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835033 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835079 Agree.]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:01 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835079 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835081 OK is not a very nice term. Could this be placed with no concerns ?]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835081 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835090 Need to address students bringing correct equipment etc to lessons so Preparation for Lessons could be added]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835090 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835115 May make it clearer that they have to do something rather than just responding to advice]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:20 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835115 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835167 We mainly don't have criteria for awarding any garde]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:29 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835167 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835218 Like grading 1 to 5]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:40 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835218 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835234 In my experience, very few parents actually look at the subject reviews ...]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:45 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835234 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835237 Language - will students interpret OK and 'good'; 3 could be 'minimal' instead? 
We want GOOD to be the minimum students achieve
Suggested option =  better 
Mostly agree 5 options better
Suggested now has NO punctuality option but this is still important

]]> 2018-06-06 09:53:45 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835237 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835344 Responding to advice is diluted to quantify. Th other categories are more useful.]]> 2018-06-06 09:54:28 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835344 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835360 Too many categories in one. Tick box for each?]]> 2018-06-06 09:54:34 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835360 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835374 Fine grading useful for new BTEC courses as big difference between grades so helps to show more precisely where students are
Could be better to report predicted and actual grade so students can get a better overview of where they are but also where they expect to end up.
Fine grading works well for current grade but doesn't work for predicted grade as won't be relevant for predicted grades
Information for parents would help so they can understand the grades more clearly.]]> 2018-06-06 09:54:38 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835374 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835476 Like the idea for B 1 2 or 3 for fine grading

]]> 2018-06-06 09:55:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835476 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835534 Minus grades can be demotivating]]> 2018-06-06 09:55:38 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835534 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835541 For students and parents, each category needs a reference guide to criteria or descriptors of the type of things involved eg. What behaviours might be involved in Engagement in learning.]]> 2018-06-06 09:55:41 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835541 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835608 We definitely agree with fine grading!!]]> 2018-06-06 09:56:06 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835608 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835615 Don't wantto  lose the B/C option]]> 2018-06-06 09:56:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835615 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835638 2018-06-06 09:56:20 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835638 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835674 2018-06-06 09:56:35 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835674 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835717 Where do we draw the line between them? Will it be consistent across departments? ]]> 2018-06-06 09:56:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835717 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835728 We are less keen on the finer gradingand  prefer the current grading including combination grades. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:56:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835728 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835754 OFf topic but do we need grades? HIgh challenge... LOw threat?]]> 2018-06-06 09:57:07 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835754 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835858 Really like A1, A2,A3. 2 is secure . 3 is not. 1 is offering the possibility of the higher grade. Think + /- is negative]]> 2018-06-06 09:57:41 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835858 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835932 Some students are  AC but not B,whenjudging  their assessed work. ]]> 2018-06-06 09:57:55 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835932 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835982 Do grades actually encourage students to classify themselves prematurely in the early stages of a linear course, isn't it the actions they take as per what we encourage in their support plans?]]> 2018-06-06 09:58:13 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265835982 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836099 Combination grades do not guide students andarea  cop out. We need to be honest with students ad ourselves.]]> 2018-06-06 09:58:57 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836099 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836128 Some of us would like to keep the option for using a slash where students are being inconsistent. Eg they are sometimes working at an A and sometimes at a B]]> 2018-06-06 09:59:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836128 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836145 Fine grades sound good. We want to be able to give a broad grade and use the fine grade when appropriate.]]> 2018-06-06 09:59:09 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836145 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836174 Remove the minus, only have two distinctions per grade.]]> 2018-06-06 09:59:19 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836174 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836186 We like the +- method because everyone understands it, but harder to do earlier in the course.]]> 2018-06-06 09:59:22 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836186 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836281 3 of 4 of us happy with split grades (A/B) and 1 keen for single grades
The split can account for discussion and concern and reiterate student impact on overall outcome - what they need to do to ensure athe  higher grade.  

If it's +\- versus single grade, then +/- preferable. 


]]> 2018-06-06 09:59:52 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836281 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836432 Fine grading- using grade and option of minus to add to it in order to differentiate between students' levels so that they better understand potential to progress 
- need to define (within dept or at college level - to be defined) what constitutes d+ vs c-]]> 2018-06-06 10:00:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836432 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836434 Students are complex and if you told a struggling student they would get an E they could give up and actually fail. Research shows that teachers are pretty bad at predicting grades so we do need to be careful - Bhasvic is pretty good at this but there will be variations.]]> 2018-06-06 10:00:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836434 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836484 No! ]]> 2018-06-06 10:00:48 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836484 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836863 No, open urselves up to a lot of problems]]> 2018-06-06 10:02:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836863 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836961 2018-06-06 10:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265836961 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837135 Making it public can take away teacher confidence in being free to predict.]]> 2018-06-06 10:04:16 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837135 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837228 Current grade should be clarified, and understood  by all stockholders]]> 2018-06-06 10:04:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837228 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837311 We need to make current grade clearer so all departments are giving grades with the same meaning. Scaffolding at the beginning of a course should allow students to achieve the highest grades even at the start of the course, and this should be used to give the current grade, which can be a extrapolated to see their likely future.we also need a qualitative target space]]> 2018-06-06 10:05:23 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837311 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837396 Would there be any problem telling parents students will get anA if they then dont]]> 2018-06-06 10:05:57 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837396 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837468 Strongly feel we should. It will motivate students and stop false expectations. Current grade too because they need to see where they go to.]]> 2018-06-06 10:06:22 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837468 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837579 Might take emphasis away from improvement]]> 2018-06-06 10:07:00 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837579 j_ogrady https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837617 IPGs - these are fabricated by teachers (especially the early ones in a 2 year course), and definitely should not be shared with students/parents]]> 2018-06-06 10:07:10 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837617 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837628 For teachers IPGs can be problematic as it is so hard to predict what a student will get at the end of their course before Easter of the first year. Current grades are far more meaningful. We can see that they are perhaps more useful for management. Perhaps we should only have an IPG at the post Progression exam stage?]]> 2018-06-06 10:07:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837628 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837677 Would think sharing IPG may lead to anxiety and lack of honesty from teachers]]> 2018-06-06 10:07:37 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837677 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837730 Concerns:
Teachers will write the predicted grade based on what the parents will want to see
Parents will raise complaints on a predicted grade that looks very concerning but without the full picture
Could demoralise students who you are encouraging to do well but are realistically concerned will underperform

Positives:
Parents will be more informed]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:00 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837730 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837745 We do not agree with sharing the IPG as we feel it can cause motivational problems. In addition the current grade can be used  by staff as a carrot/stick measure which would be undermined by use of a dual grade system.]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:05 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837745 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837795 It is dangerous to turn something so subjective into something which could be perceived by students and parents as fact and used to hold us to account erroneously. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:20 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837795 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837855 I cannot see point in hiding real press from students. To guide them properly we need them to understand the grades and what they need to do before they can improve.]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:43 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837855 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837893 Probably not. Informal discussions are pbably better. IPGs are too ifficult to be sure of.]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837893 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837901 Concern about releasing predicted grades early in year 1 when don't know students as well and much content not done 

Year 2 ... Perhaps 

Not keen on language - predicted too definite
Prefer POTENTIAL grade .... Allows for conversation about what COULD achieve IF they do x,y,z.  Rather than claiming magic ball of what  they will get - so many variables can't be account for.  ]]> 2018-06-06 10:08:55 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837901 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837999 Consolidated to one predicted grade (UCAS, ALPS, IPG, Predicted...)]]> 2018-06-06 10:09:29 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265837999 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838031 As soon as you say to a student their "predicted grade" in year, it can influence quite negatively what they achieve in the end. There is some big confusion between "current" and "predicted" . Kelley and Sam think we should have two grades - one which reflects current achievement levels but always coming with a motivating grade which highlights what the student could achieve if they made use of the advice and support that has been agreed with or outlined to them. The motivational grade should be about potential NOT "prediction". Working at/ working towards as language could help with this idea. The working at/ current grade is about their work, NOT about them. The working towards grade indicates more about their behaviours, what they can do, etc and links attitudinal grades.]]> 2018-06-06 10:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838031 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838053 Current grades are fine and give a good picture to students and parents alike]]> 2018-06-06 10:09:43 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838053 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838075 Maybe be more careful in how the current grade is set, I.e. Not just from the last tracking test, be more holistic.]]> 2018-06-06 10:09:52 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265838075 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844576 2018-06-06 10:50:59 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844576 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844581 2018-06-06 10:51:00 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844581 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844787 Not sure having OK in the middle is a good idea. Have four not five categories.]]> 2018-06-06 10:52:24 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844787 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844821 We like the statements. 
We would like the 5 point scale to have explanations for students. Can we include what you need to do to improve statements? We would like very good rather than good as it’s a big leap between good and outstanding. This would also clarify what we meant by ok

]]> 2018-06-06 10:52:41 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844821 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844855 We like the new statements. We would prefer to stick to the 1-4 grading as it makes you make a decision rather than going with 'ok']]> 2018-06-06 10:52:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844855 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844945 Like having five number indicators, allows for neutrality.]]> 2018-06-06 10:53:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844945 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844960 We should report on punctuality and attendance.]]> 2018-06-06 10:53:39 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844960 dashleighmorris https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844997 2018-06-06 10:53:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265844997 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845046 We don't like no 4 'Some worries' we prefer 'some concerns'.

]]> 2018-06-06 10:54:23 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845046 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845064 I think a 5th question would be helpful regard inning punctuality (previously organisation and punctuality were two things under one question, which was difficult) - but despite punctuality as a % maybe being listed with the review, I still think teacher input regarding punctuality should be included. I.e if students trickle in 1 or 2 mins late, that is important to report as teacher perception of student]]> 2018-06-06 10:54:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845064 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845210 Should we have a judgement on quality of work? Like 1,2 and 4 but think 3 is a bit woolly ]]> 2018-06-06 10:55:09 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845210 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845279 The four statements proposed are preferable to the old three. But "work outside the classroom" may be better than "independent learning" as independent learning can happen in the classroom. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:55:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845279 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845295 We like Engagement in Classwork and it is an improvement on ' Effort in Class']]> 2018-06-06 10:55:34 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845295 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845302 Meet deadlines is irrelevant for study support, as is engagement in las work and independent learning as separate categories.  Requires more evidence to write each one, esp meeting deadlines. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:55:37 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845302 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845476 One of us likes the original three categories but would add "meeting deadlines" to make a fourth]]> 2018-06-06 10:56:43 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845476 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845488 Prefer 'engagement' to effort and it's good to separate 'organisation' and 'punctuality'.  'Responding to advice' is also a good addition to show students are taking responsibility for improving. 

Unsure about the phrase 'some worries'.  Better to have 'some concerns' then 'serious concerns'?




]]> 2018-06-06 10:56:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845488 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845490 'Responding to advice' is good but will not be applicable to every student, and default of 'outstanding' is not then appropriate. Perhaps a 'not applicable' should be included as one of the options for this question]]> 2018-06-06 10:56:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845490 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845502 Responding to advice is a bit ambiguous, as advice could cover many topics. Perhaps responding to feedback would be clearer for students  ]]> 2018-06-06 10:56:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845502 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845530 We particularly like responding to advice]]> 2018-06-06 10:57:03 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845530 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845534 Engagement is this the  right word? Effort? 
These categories coud reward hard workers]]> 2018-06-06 10:57:06 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845534 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845641 Absolutely not. It can be hard enough to get consistency both in student performance and staff judgement within a grade boundary without introducing qualifiers. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:57:50 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845641 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845686 2018-06-06 10:58:06 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845686 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845695 Yes.]]> 2018-06-06 10:58:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845695 ruthh3880 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845763 They don’t get those as a final grade. It’s meaningless if they are an A+ if they don’t get an A*. It’s also subjective and not necessarily motivational. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:58:36 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845763 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845843 Some merit to help identify progress made]]> 2018-06-06 10:59:10 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845843 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845962 No, difficult to achieve consistentcy. ]]> 2018-06-06 10:59:54 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845962 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845995 Some difference of opinion in our group!

]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265845995 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846037 I would prefer to stick with single grades.]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:27 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846037 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846038 Makes it easier to see how strong/weak a student is. Good for support and guidance to see how to support a student. 

A minus could demotivate students as it may devalue the grade]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:27 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846038 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846054 I visual art preference for qualifier]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:33 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846054 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846101 Mixed view]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846101 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846112 It gives more scope to be encouraging. Saying a high B or a low A is preferred to A/B, it provides less ambiguity]]> 2018-06-06 11:00:58 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846112 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846165 We would not like fine grading system. We do like the option to use A/B for a student who is mostly A but occasionally B (and to be able to use this on all boundaries)]]> 2018-06-06 11:01:26 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846165 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846218 Moving to less finite grades would be better]]> 2018-06-06 11:01:42 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846218 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846224 Is there a possibility of having both current grades and qualifiers. For some subjects current grades work very well. However, for essay based subjects having a qualifier maybe more effective, for example a grade B essay could be very good, B+ whereas one that doesn't quite meet the grade could be a B-.]]> 2018-06-06 11:01:49 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846224 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846262 Does it not depend on the purpose of the grade? Does it make sense to have a D- as a predicted grade when a student cannot get a D- in the actual exam? On the other hand it can be a useful indicator of confidence in the grade. So why not have a separate indicator of confidence? ]]> 2018-06-06 11:02:08 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846262 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846273 I don't think A/B is an accurate predictor of where students are. We should know what grade students are working at and be able to predict accurately. A+ etc at least indicates which grade students are at within an interval]]> 2018-06-06 11:02:14 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846273 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846392 ESOL exams are pass/fail, so we don't use grading. However, it would be good to look at the possibility of grading homework for effort and ability as an indicator and reflecting on this in subject reviews.]]> 2018-06-06 11:03:06 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846392 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846480 If we were really bold would we report grades at all? We have had previous training on the benefits of not giving grades at all.....]]> 2018-06-06 11:03:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846480 dashleighmorris https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846607 2018-06-06 11:04:46 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846607 ruthh3880 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846802 No. It devalues the impact of a current working grade. If a student/ parent can see the IPG and they’re happy with that, the. The current grade has less meaning. ]]> 2018-06-06 11:06:23 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265846802 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847004 Some weren't sure why we do ipg]]> 2018-06-06 11:07:42 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847004 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847040 They are subjective]]> 2018-06-06 11:07:56 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847040 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847103 It can spoil relationship withnstudent]]> 2018-06-06 11:08:27 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847103 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847106 Need consistency about current grade purpose. Are they honest or motivational? Danger of publishing IPG - can seriously demotivate some students who may have achieved well inlast test but likely to do worse overall. Or Could induce complacency in able students who have underperformed in the current grade. Staff much less likely to be honest if published.]]> 2018-06-06 11:08:29 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847106 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847142 Why do we do ipg]]> 2018-06-06 11:08:47 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847142 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847209 We feel there are big risks to doing this early on in year one. Primarily for the mental health of students who are experiencing struggle for the first time. This feels to us that it would be threatening for students. ]]> 2018-06-06 11:09:16 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847209 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847250 I feel uncomfortable predicting a grade 19 months before they side an exam - it would demotivate or cause students to become overconfident. Perhaps we could predict for year 1 and year 2 instead of predicting so early]]> 2018-06-06 11:09:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847250 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847251 A fundamental NO!! Current grades are based on evidence, tracking tests etc, and therefore there is scope for conversation and improvement with students. A predicted grade could very well act as a ceiling and a barrier between staff and student - it is no longer an objective grade being issued, rather it is with the knowledge of the student reading what you have put, therefore influencing your decision. It could be demoralising and deeply damaging]]> 2018-06-06 11:09:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847251 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847308 The predicted grade at a2 Is like ipg]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:05 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847308 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847327 Some have said scrap IPG altogether ]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:11 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847327 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847331 If so we need a third 'secret' grade]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:12 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847331 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847336 We think we should continue with the current method as we use the current grade to boost or motivate the student and so serves a different purpose to the IPG, which should be kept separate from them so it does not demotivate them.]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847336 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847386 No because IPGs are based on intuition and evidence and parents may not understand the process and could interpret this grade differently - needs qualitative data wto be shared with parents]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:42 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847386 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847407 We also need to be clear what current grade means ]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:52 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847407 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847409 Yes, share the IPG]]> 2018-06-06 11:10:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847409 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847484 We do not want to share IPGs as they are subjective and could be damaging for the students' esteem and motivation. They also cannot take into account a student really 'taking off' in the second year and exceeding expectations. Could harm UCAS applications.]]> 2018-06-06 11:11:31 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847484 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847492 Perhaps a current  grade stated with an honest course grade outcome will help both students and parents]]> 2018-06-06 11:11:33 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847492 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847550 UCAS predicted grade is v important and now v dependent on prog exam]]> 2018-06-06 11:11:51 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847550 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847557 Variety of opinions. Doesn't it depend on what we are using the data for. Is this for college purposes rather than for individual students? Danger of using group data for individuals?]]> 2018-06-06 11:11:53 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847557 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847585 we like "likely outcome" but are reluctant to use jargon like IPG with parents]]> 2018-06-06 11:12:01 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847585 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847609 We absolutely believe that the IPG should remain private. It's subjective and not based on evidence. It could lead to further backlash if it was revealed to students as well as parents. " why is my current grade A but my IPG a B?"  :)😍😎🤓💩]]> 2018-06-06 11:12:10 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847609 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847650 Let's get rid of IPG s]]> 2018-06-06 11:12:32 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847650 https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847787 Can't they see them anyway if they want? - Gdpr ]]> 2018-06-06 11:13:36 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/265847787 t_chamberlain https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/268470543 I in business for single grade]]> 2018-06-25 14:03:50 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/268470543 t_chamberlain https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/268472428  If we must use grades, stick to slashes e.g. A/]]> 2018-06-25 14:18:24 UTC https://padlet.com/t_chamberlain/77qgrzaoop5l/wish/268472428