https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506 Made with charisma en-us 2018-03-25 17:58:34 UTC 2025-10-30 15:15:32 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Pictureland.png maria_prikhodko https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254544549 Please post your questions about Theories of Relations (Week 5). Make sure to answer at least a couple of questions. Thanks! Don't forget to share and upload any useful content.]]> 2018-04-23 18:09:47 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254544549 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658230 How can we highlight the differences of writing without there inevitably being a hierarchy in those differences? How do we "even the playing field," so to speak? - Natalie ]]> 2018-04-24 02:04:11 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658230 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658331 How does Gee's definition of literacy impact identity creation and performance? ]]> 2018-04-24 02:04:50 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658331 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658373 Lindsey ^]]> 2018-04-24 02:05:04 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658373 bmoren3 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658376 Question: in terms of D/discourse communities (first/second), I wonder if we devalue some Discourse communities, or prefer some over others?]]> 2018-04-24 02:05:05 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658376 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658390 What kinds of in-class activities can encourage collaborative learning without forcing students to reach a consensus? I'd love some ideas for teaching first-year writing! -- Alex G]]> 2018-04-24 02:05:08 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658390 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658502 @Brenda - I think we do, and I wonder if we do this implicitly and that impacts students - Natalie ]]> 2018-04-24 02:05:52 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658502 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658507 Yeah, do any teachers use collaborative learning activities currently? Do they ask for consensus or no? ]]> 2018-04-24 02:05:54 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658507 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658641 How can we create meaningful consensus as described Trimbur in a disinterested classroom. Alternatively, what about in an ESL classroom when there's little communication of students with different language backgrounds. -Alex N.]]> 2018-04-24 02:06:35 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658641 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658683 How can we apply socio-epistemic rhetoric to the first-year writing or high school level classroom? -Katharine R.]]> 2018-04-24 02:06:51 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658683 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658718 One of the things Trimbur argues for is the “desire of humans to live and work together with differences” (456). I like this idea, and it sounds like something we should certainly all work toward. However, I feel a bit overwhelmed by how to foster this respect in the classroom, and where to draw lines. What kinds of differences are okay? Aren’t some differences not okay? Specifically, I wonder about “difference” that is inherently harmful to others in the class. How do I know when I’m facilitating conversation and consensus, and when I’m just talking over voices different from my own? -Emily]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:03 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658718 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658722 Brenda: We definitely do!! I think Gee's point about dominant discourses answers this question. Some discourses (and therefore some discourse communities) give us access to social goods like money and status. I keep thinking about how the tech industry is a privileged discourse community - and how tech literacy, in general, is a position of privilege!]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:03 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658722 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658743 I do use collaborative learning activities and I think with "content" sometimes I tend to expect consensus (like, what is the rhetorical situation?) , but not with weightier topics .... - Natalie ]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:08 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658743 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658747 What other types of collaborative learning activities are widely used in the classroom? How successful are they once implemented?

-Ariel Garcia]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:09 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658747 bmoren3 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658753 @Anonymous (collaborative learning activities) I use peer-review/workshops with my kids, but I had never thought about consensus. Although, now I may try it out.]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:11 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658753 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658805 @ Brenda, I completely believe that discourse communities are devalued and preferred over others. I think Berlin and Trimbur have a lot to say about this too!]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:30 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658805 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658828 In response to Katherine R's question: ]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:42 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658828 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658842 Ooops hang on lol]]> 2018-04-24 02:07:49 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658842 maria_prikhodko https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658949 @Katharine, socio-epistemic rhetoric is so embedded (even in more harsh terms) in the first-year writing. A lot of terms you can't decipher for students because of time constraints and class cap. ]]> 2018-04-24 02:08:33 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254658949 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659063 As far as collaborative learning, I've conducted group thesis statement activities which is pretty much like a mesh of peer review and workshopping put together. -Katharine R]]> 2018-04-24 02:09:10 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659063 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659073 Gee's definition of literacy impacts identity creation largely in how we imagine we enact identity. He argues that individuals are nothing more than a collection of discourses. There is no true self underneath discourse or relations. Our meanings and selves come from the relations between discourses that we embody. -Emily]]> 2018-04-24 02:09:15 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659073 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659133 @Natalie I don't know that there is a way to not have a hierarchy because many ways of writing reflect the reality of the world where rightly or wrongly there is a hierarchy of desire. -Alex N]]> 2018-04-24 02:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659133 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659141 so is it not worth it to even attempt to explain concepts like socio-epistemic rhetoric  to students? @Maria]]> 2018-04-24 02:09:40 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659141 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659278 @Maria, thanks for answering my question! You're definitely right in that it would be difficult to cover socio-epistemic rhetoric in a FYW class. Are there any ways that we can embody that philosophy in the activities and lessons we choose? -Katharine R.]]> 2018-04-24 02:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659278 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659477 @Alex G I did an activity where the students reached a consensus of writing a paragraph in the style of a famous celebrity's speech. Hopefully nobody has a claim on this celebrity so it is easier the first time and from there you can transition to other methods of reaching consensus. -Alex N]]> 2018-04-24 02:11:35 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659477 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659713 In response to Katherine R's question, I struggle with how to apply this at the introductory level as well.  I don't really believe that we can get rid of hierarchy entirely, particularly at this level.  I don't like the term "hierarchy,"  but we are working within a certain framework so that's sort of what it is.  We have come to a consensus about what constitutes good writing and literature at some level at least over the centuries.  It's a created thing and in the university we submit at a certain level to preconceived notions. ]]> 2018-04-24 02:12:46 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/254659713 https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/256372686 @Brenda We absolutely do. Gee's idea of a Dominant Discourse is one that more highly valued than others and offers those who speak it more access to power and social capital. My follow up questions: is it possible to topple a dominant discourse without a different dominant discourse ultimately replacing it? If we as writing teachers attempt to initiate students into the dominant discourse, are we giving them a tool for success or are we marginalizing their other discourses in a problematic way?]]> 2018-04-30 01:35:40 UTC https://padlet.com/maria_prikhodko/74arutblm506/wish/256372686