https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm A place for the nettime community to gather its thoughts on the 'Direction of Travel' discussion. en-us 2023-06-21 14:22:03 UTC 2023-07-09 02:49:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f6f8.png gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240038 Not clear who the current mod team is, but we are discussing in the thread on list about setting up a volunteer group.]]> 2023-06-21 14:26:26 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240038 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240088 2023-06-21 14:26:31 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240088 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240488 2023-06-21 14:27:03 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629240488 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629242779 We should have a way to keep the list membership and archives safe so that in the event our host disappears, we can restart the list somewhere else.]]> 2023-06-21 14:30:16 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629242779 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629243644 Do we go with a self-hosted system where a volunteer or paid person maintains a mail server? Or do we try to outsource the effort to a third party?

If we self-host, who will manage it? And how do we make sure people's efforts are sustainable and we are not creating situations of burnout, or recreating capitalist logics?]]> 2023-06-21 14:31:27 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629243644 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629245697 IIRC Gmail and other providers have been dropping the list emails for a while due to issues with missing DKIM/SPF/... setup, and that was one of the initiators of this discussion. 

Everyone on the net should be able to participate in the list and receive emails if they want to.]]> 2023-06-21 14:34:29 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629245697 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629246459 Whatever solution(s) we choose, probably we will need to consider the need to pay for time, electricity, expertise, etc. so we need to think about how we can pool money for funding, however little.]]> 2023-06-21 14:35:36 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629246459 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629248270 I remember a comment coming up in the first sync meeting about how nettime can be perceived as a very academic and intimidating space. There are also messages in the thread about the largely white, male, older academic composition of the list. We need to think about how we can cultivate nettime as an open space to ensure all voices are comfortable to speak, and are heard.]]> 2023-06-21 14:38:05 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629248270 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629250124 Should nettime just be a mailing list? Could we have an RSS feed, blog, Usenet group, and/or Mastodon instance? How would these things interact? Do we cross-post? Are they only 'views' of the list or are they distinct spaces?]]> 2023-06-21 14:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629250124 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629250787 Seems to be strong agreement on list that whatever options we go for, some people should own the nettime.org domain and this should serve as our main pointer to our digital spaces, including the list.]]> 2023-06-21 14:41:42 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629250787 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251611 2023-06-21 14:43:03 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251611 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251709 2023-06-21 14:43:11 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251709 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251958 2023-06-21 14:43:37 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629251958 gizmoguy1 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629252512 2023-06-21 14:44:32 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629252512 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629972723 We need to ensure that the host we select lets us import the existing archive of nettime. Felix mentioned an issue with Mailman 2 to 3 upgrade, which needs investigation.

]]> 2023-06-22 08:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2629972723 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2640978743 https://www.panix.com/email/mlist.html]]> 2023-07-09 02:49:00 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2640978743 https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2640978821 https://support.mayfirst.org/wiki/mailman_create]]> 2023-07-09 02:49:41 UTC https://padlet.com/gizmoguy1/6zl8nzjqb4zas0hm/wish/2640978821