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      <title> Are the characters in “EPICAC” and A Midsummer Night’s Dream responsible for their actions? Explain why or why not.​ by Heather Nerren</title>
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         <title>Elijah</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>No, For example in EPICAC the narrator doesn't take the blame for EPICAC short circuiting. In A Midsummer Night's Dream Robin doesn't take the blame for the flower not being used on the correct person. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:45:07 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Alex M.</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>No EPICAC does not take the blame for his short coming and Robin refuses to take the blame of using the flower on Lysander.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:48:51 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Alex Rhodes</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in "EPICAC" and A Midsummer Night's Dream are sometimes responsible for their actions, and sometimes not.  For example, in A Midsummer Night's Dream, the characters are not responsible for their actions in the later acts.  This is because they have no control over who they are able to love due to Robin and Oberon playing tricks with the flower nectar.  Stated in Act 3 Scene 2 of A Midsummer Night's Dream, "When thou wak'st,/Thou tak'st/True delight/In the sight/ Of thy former lady's eye."  This quote stated by Robin, elaborates of how they are doing things out of the characters will to almost control them like puppets, making them irresponsible for their own decisions.  However, the characters in "EPICAC" are responsible for their actions besides EPICAC.  This is because EPICAC is a machine who is unable to love or even have a real conversation with anyone around it.  The other characters, such as the narrator and Pat, are able to take responsibility for what they do because nothing is stopping or controlling them.  The narrator takes responsibility and has full knowledge of him using EPICAC for his poems to convince his lover Pat to marry him but this doesn't stop him from using EPICAC.  However, when he short circuits, the narrator feels guilt and realizes what he said to EPICAC was wrong, taking full responsibility of his "death." Stated in "EPICAC," "I was upset enough about that and the untimely demise of my friend EPICAC, without exposing myself to a tongue-lashing"  This quote shows how he took responsibility for what had happened to EPICAC and had realized that his over obsession with Pat was effecting EPICAC overtime.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:51:34 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Nick </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in A Midsummer Night's Dream are not responsible for their actions because Robin and King Oberon are using flowers to alter the perception of the characters, specifically who they love. A Midsummer Night's Dream states "Be it ounce, or cat, or bear,/Pard, or boar with bristled hair,/ In thy eye that shall appear/ When thou wak'st, it is thy dear..." This shows that no matter what the person sees, they will fall in love with it against their will. The characters in "EPICAC" are responsible for their actions because the entire time the narrator is aware of what he is using EPICAC for, it is only after EPICAC learns about marriage that the narrator realizes that he has made a mistake. The text states "... The amazing, pathetic truth dawned on me..." This shows the narrator's reaction to his actions that he was in control of.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:51:53 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Laura</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>To begin, in "EPICAC," most of the characters are responsible for their actions! The narrator used EPICAC for his own gain. Although he didn't know that it would lead to his friend's demise, he was still responsible for using EPICAC. On page 3 of "EPICAC," it states, "...I had transposed into my own writing and signed my name to a two hundred and eighty line poem..." This specifically shows that the narrator knew what he was doing, and was responsible for his actions. However, in "<em>A Midsummer Night's Dream," </em>most characters are not responsible for their actions. The characters who are not responsible for their actions, including Demetrius and Lysander, are under a spell, so they cannot exactly control what they think or do. On page 103 of<em> "A Midsummer Night's Dream," </em>Lysander states, "That I do hate thee and love Helena." However, due to previous text, we know that this statement is false. So, some of the characters in "<em>A Midsummer Night's Dream"</em> are not responsible for their actions.</div><div><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:52:53 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Emma</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in EPICAC are not responsible for their actions because, the narrator still hasn't owned up to Pat about him taking advantage of EPICAC's abilities. After EPICAC short circuiting himself, the narrator owned up to leaving him on all night to the creator of EPICAC, but he never brought up how he used EPICAC's poems, even though he was guilty. In "Midnight Summer's Dream," Robin has not owned up to being in the wrong. He doesn't even feel any guilt. Robin never blamed himself on the mistake of putting the magic flower on the wrong people. So, in the case of him not fully owning up to his mistake, as well as the narrator in, "EPICAC," doing the same, they are alike in that way.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:53:04 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>CHASE🔋</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div><strong><em><mark><sub><sup>No. Because in Midsummers night dream Robin doesnt want to take&nbsp; the blame for putting the flower on the wrong person. In EPICAC the narrator also didnt want to take the blame for EPICAC short-circuit.</sup></sub></mark></em></strong></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:54:09 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>kenley</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>   The characters in EPICAC and A Midsummer Night's Dream are not responsible for their actions because the characters in both are battling an interference in their fate. "I am going to short-circuit myself out of your lives forever." (page 7, paragraph 61). This signifies how EPICAC couldn't comprehend the definition of fate and how it applies to himself being a machine. He isn't responsible because the narrator interfered with his understanding of his life, causing him to short-circuit himself. In A Midsummer Night's Dream, it states, "Pard, or boar with bristled hair,/ In thy eye it shall appear". This demonstrates how the characters were not responsible for who they fell in love with, but Robin was. Because Robin interfered with their fate, it made the characters not to blame for their actions.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:54:46 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Morgan Lynn </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>In "EPICAC" the Narrator was not responsible for his actions because he even stated that he couldn't propose to pat until EPICAC had the perfect words, and since the Narrator hadn't told pat about who actually wrote the poems it's unlikely that she will find out, therefore the couple wont have any mega issues, since pat thinks the Narrator is a helpless romantic and she is falling of that. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream" The characters are held responsible for some of there actions. Robin, for example isn't help responsible for all the trouble he causes, like turning bottom into a donkey, because no one actually knows it's him. The character involved in the love triangle/square are not responsible for there actions while having the cupid spell taking a toll on their body, but before that Demetruis was responsible for the threats and insults he threw at Helena while she was confessing her for him in the forest.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:55:10 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>kaegan</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in "EPICAC" are responsible for their actions while in A Midsummer Night's Dream they aren't responsible for their actions. For example, in A Midsummers Night's Dream, Robin placed the flower's nectar on Lysander and Demetrius' eyes. This results in both of the boys not being able to control, at this point, their love for Helena(3.1-2). This shows the boys didn't have control over their actions. On page 3 of "EPICAC," it states, "...I had transposed into my own writing and signed my name to a two hundred and eighty line poem..." This proves that the narrator knew what he was doing, and was responsible for his actions.  </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 15:56:59 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Kenzie</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in "EPICAC" and Midsummer Night's Dream are not responsible for their actions because they do not have any consequences. On paragraph 63, "... he did all he could to make our marriage a happy one." The narrator did end up losing his job but he got what he wanted in the end which was Pat. Also, Robin was very deceitful and wrongfully treated individuals but he never was liable for deceiving people. Robinwas never truly caught with altering the fate of lovers. In conclusion, they are both not held responsible for their actions.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:00:14 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>chyann</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in the "EPICAC" can control there actions beI none cause the narrator chose to take EPICAC poems and us them as his own. In paragraph 23 it states "...I had transposed into my own writing and signed my name to a two-hundred-and eighty-line poem..." This shows that the narrator had taken EPICAC poems to benefit him, so yes the character was responible for his actions.  The characters in A Midsummer Night Dream cant really control here actions because they are under a love potion and they cant control themselves because of Oberon and Robin playing tricks on them. In (2.2.73-75) "But Athenian found I none/On whose eyes I might approve/ This flower's force in stirring love." This shows that Robin is putting the flower's juice on Lysander eyes where he falls in love with Helena. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:00:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Avery</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>&nbsp;   The characters in the story, "A Midsummer Nights dream" are not able to control their actions while the characters in the short story  "EPICAC" are able to control their actions. To clarify, the characters in "A Midsummer nights Dream"  are being manipulated by Oberon and Robins love flower, therefore they are not completely responsible for their actions. Evidence of this is (3.2.  106-111), "Flower of this purple die,/ Hit with cupids archery,/ Sink in apple of his eye./ when his love he doth espy,/ Let her shine as gloriously/ As the Venus of the sky..." This quote represents an example of the 4 lovers in "A Midsummer Nights Dream" unable to control their actions because they are like puppets under Oberon and Robins control. Unlike the characters in "A Midsummer Nights Dream" the characters in "EPICAC" are capable of controlling their actions. This is because they don't have outside forces disturbing the fate of their love. For example on page 5 of the short story, the narrator is having a discussion with EPICAC were he explains  why a computer could never love a human. The Narrator states, "Noun, meaning predetermined and inevitable" this quote relates to how the Narrator and Pat have control over their lives because it is by fate.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:03:03 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Daniela</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in "EPICAC" and A Midsummer Night's Dream both differ in whether or not they are responsible for their actions. For example, in Midsummer Nights dream, Demetrius, Helena, and Lysander are not responsible for the love triangle created between them. The bond was created by an outside force which is out of their control. The book states, "The next thing then she, waking, looks upon/ she shall pursue it with the soul of love (2.3.158)." That demonstrates how their love and actions are caused by a potion and not actually by them. Although in "EPICAC" the characters have complete control over their actions and should take responsibility for them. The narrator was not forced to use Epicac outside of work, therefor should be blamed for Epicac's short usage. The text states, "I realized that what happened was perfectly logical, inevitable, and all my fault." This illustrates the narrator knowing that he was the cause for Epicac's "heartbreak" and that there was no way around it, yet he still did it to benefit himself. In the end, both texts are different in whether the characters are responsible for their actions.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:04:07 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Demarcus</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<h1>&nbsp;The characters in “EPICAC” and A Midsummer Night’s Dream are responsible for their actions, because in the book&nbsp; A Midsummer Night’s Dream the characters Hermia and Helena both have someone they love and robin had put the flowers power on them both of the guys they liked and now they love Helena. Hermia gets mad over it and says "O me![to Helena] you juggler, you cankerblossom and stol'n my love's heart from him?" In “EPICAC”&nbsp; the narrator left&nbsp; EPICAC on one night but before that happened they had&nbsp; argument on who is smarter and the narrator brings up "men are made of&nbsp; protoplasm" which makes EPICAC whish that he was made up out of protoplasm so he can live for ever but in steed he made poems that will last the narrator 500 yrs to give to his wife every anniversary.&nbsp;  EPICAC after he did that he shorted  himself.</h1><div><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:04:46 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Carly</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in a "Midsummer Night's Dream" are not responsible for their actions. For example, In the story " Midsummer Night's Dream," King Oberon and Robin are using " Love Flowers"&nbsp; to control who the characters love. A Midsummer Nights Dream states, "... Pard, or boar with bristled hair,/ In the eye that shall appear,/ When thou wa'st, it is thy dear..." This shows that when that person wakes, no matter if it is a animal, or person, they will fall in love with it. In the story 'EPICAC," the characters are responsible for their actions. For example, in the story "EPICAC," the narrator knows he is using Epicac. The story states, " When i thought about it, i realized that what had happened was perfectly logical, inevitable, and all my fault." This shows that the narrator knew the whole time what he was doing, but just now realized that it was wrong.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:05:47 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Raisa</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The characters in "EPICAC" and A Midsummer Night's Dream are responsible for their actions. For example, in EPICAC the narrator is responsible for EPICAC's death&nbsp; because he tells him that, "Women can't love machines, and that's that." And in A Midsummer Night's Dream it is Oberon's fault that Robin put the spell of the flower on Lysander instead of Demetrius, it's Oberon's fault because he did not give Robin that much of a description of Demetrius, because the only description he gave Robin was as, "By the Athenian garments he hath on"</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:07:23 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Tucker</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I feel like both the text characters are responsible for the own actions but do not take acountibiltily for them. "A Midsummer Night's Dream" gives an example of this on (3.1-2.1-205.1-110) Robin is casting spells by putting nectar on lysanders eyes to make him fall in love with helena so Demetrious can be with Hermia. When this happened know one knew why Lysander fell in love with Helena but Robin could have taken acountibility for putting nectar in lysanders eyes but she doesnt and Lysander and Hermia would still be in love. "Epicac" also gives examples through this by starting arguments but does not take the blame for his actions. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:12:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Lexie R.</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>In my opinion I feel like in "EPICAC" the narrator is responsible with causing EPICAC to short-circuit to an extent. I mean the way he went about explaining to him that him and pat couldn't be together because he was a machine and pat is human(page.4-5) could have been handled differently and if hadn't used EPICAC for his own personal gain the the problem would have never arisen, and if the narrator and Pat were distend to be together then then would have found a way to be together.<br><br>In a <strong><em>Mid summer nights dream</em></strong> robin isn't the only one to blame for Lysander getting the flower put on his eyes. King Oberon is also to blame because he didn't give a description of Demetrius and only said "Thou shalt know the man/By the Athenian garments he hath on"(2.2.271-272). With this you can see that Oberon didn't try to give a good description of Demetrius, so some of the fault is on Oberon.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:16:07 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Kallie</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Yes and No; because the narrator could be responsible for his actions by telling the truth to Pat and telling her that EPICAC was writing the poems, but he keeps it a secret. EPICAC is a robot/computer so he is unable to be responsible for his own actions on the other hand Pat and the narrator are human beings so they CAN be responsible for their actions. In (EPICAC)it states "I was upset enough about that and the untimely demise of my friend EPICAC, without exposing myself to a tongue-lashing" This explains that the narrator is disappointed that his dear friend EPICAC has moved on and that because of his own actions his friend has died and he has lost his job. Also in<mark> A Midsummer Night's Dream, </mark>Oberon could be responsible for his actions by stopping all the trouble with the flower! None of the other characters can be responsible for their actions because of Oberon and Robin putting the flower on Demetrius and Lysander this means that a flower can change a person and NOT make them be their own self it's making them be a totally different person. In (<mark>A Midsummer Night's Dream</mark>) it states," When thou wak'st,/Thou tak'st/True delight/In the sight/ Of thy former lady's eye." This explains that Robin is controlling the other characters like he is king, which is not letting them be their self, which can also lead them to not be responsible for their own actions.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2022-03-14 16:22:41 UTC</pubDate>
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