https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u A Debate with No Filters en-us 2021-08-12 11:25:21 UTC 2026-02-19 05:06:54 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f476.png jaadizon https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/1676696436 Put it under the appropriate column. You can develop your argument further in this text box. Add an image or chart or graphic if you think this will help support your argument. ]]> 2021-08-12 11:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/1676696436 jaadizon https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/1676696437 Lorem ipsum.]]> 2021-08-12 11:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/1676696437 masenador1 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2258984161 Parents have good intentions for their babies. Catholic parents choose to baptize their baby so that Christianity will lead them to a better future.]]> 2022-08-11 11:21:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2258984161 lcbagorio https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2258988875 Parents can choose to do the Christian practice of baptizing infants, as infants do not have the capability to make a 'choice' yet. If the infants in the near future ever considers Christianity as 'nothing', or chooses another religion, then there is no stopping them as they are free to do so. Furthermore, if they ever consider Christianity as useless, this means that the practice of baptism, whether it happens or not doesn't really matter to them. ]]> 2022-08-11 11:31:14 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2258988875 crmacaspac https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259007509 Babies lack the intellect and capacity to understand religion. In other words, infancy is a stage where one's mind isn't well and fully developed. Hence, it should be reasonable that at that stage, the parents are to make the decision for their babies.]]> 2022-08-11 12:09:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259007509 gndecastro https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259051270 It is up to the parent how they should raise their child, from their morals and religion. The parents are supposed to educate their children to what they think is right and tell them what is wrong. Infants don't really have the rationality to choose yet at that stage of their lives. However, when they are older and can decide for themselves what they want to believe in, I think that should be up to the person already. ]]> 2022-08-11 13:23:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259051270 aldelacruz4 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259058993 Parents deciding whether to baptize their babies is by no means an act to restrict the babies to have a freedom to choose whether to be baptized or not. There are even no passage in the bible that supports infant baptism, even Jesus wasn't baptized while he was still an infant. I mean does something change in the babies or will something grand will happen to the point that they really are needed to be baptized? No, they will still be the same babies you have before they were baptize.]]> 2022-08-11 13:32:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259058993 egsoriano1 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259081407 The baptism of children at such an early age creates the obligation to dedicate their lives to a certain way of life at a time when they may not fully understand what they are getting into. While baptism can be deemed harmless since anyone can leave their Faith at any time, the reality is that most people do not due to many factors, one example being the fear of being shunned by those around them or their society. One example of shunning by nature of being unbaptized can be found in Ireland, where up until 2018, baptism was considered among the admissions criteria for primary schooling. Infants enjoy the same rights as those enjoyed by a fully grown adult by nature of being human, so naturally they must be given the opportunity to make an informed, personal choice without interference from other factors. While Baptism during infancy can be considered as a gateway into the faith that preserves the spiritual health and integrity of an individual, it can also be considered as a way of “locking” someone into a specific worldview. This is more harmful for both the individual and the Church as it leads to a divide in the perfect union that should be present between the individual and the faith that they practice. Devotion to the faith is built on drive and purpose, which ultimately come from the individual's understanding of themselves. It would be better for a person to accumulate enough wisdom from other worldviews and ways of life outside of the one that they are born into so that they may build a strong foundation for the faith in which they believe. 

]]> 2022-08-11 14:00:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259081407 tdgarcia1 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259096648 Parents will always have good intentions for the children. If they believe that the Catholic faith will lead their son or daughter to have a better future, they should definitely baptize their child. Once the child turns 18, he or she would already have an understanding about right and wrong, and should be given the chance to make a decision on his or her faith. ]]> 2022-08-11 14:20:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259096648 cahilario https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259103890 If the person has free will to choose religions later on after being baptized, does the "when" a baptism occurs even matter in the first place? Not baptizing a child at infancy and letting them decide later on would then seem to be a much more acceptable option since it would be more convenient for them to start from a relatively "clean slate" regardless of what they pick. In the event that a person chooses not to accept the Church, staying away from a community you were not part of in the first place would cause less friction to a person's relationships with others (especially parents) than if they were to split of on their own from the environment they grew up in.]]> 2022-08-11 14:28:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259103890 egbuencamino https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259107304 The person as a child is unable to understand or comprehend the full grasp of choosing a religion and their parents are tasked to aid them in the way they believe is right.

However once a child is old enough, he most likely has enough experience and knowledge to understand the decision he is making. By that point it is up to him to carve the path he chooses. Even if it means forgoing the old religion and the repercussions behind it, like all big changes in life it is the cost paving a new path]]> 2022-08-11 14:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259107304 dcfernandez https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259111764 Parents believe that every new member of the Lord's church should be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Baptism is viewed by Christians as a symbol of sins being washed away and of being joined with Christ's death and resurrection.]]> 2022-08-11 14:39:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259111764 dmpe https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259185544 Parents want to offer their children the best because they care about them so deeply.
Getting their infant baptized is the first step in teaching their children to have a relationship with God, which is essential if parents want to truly give their kids the greatest life possible. ]]> 2022-08-11 16:17:30 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259185544 jldimacali https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259198198 As an infant, they don't hold the capability to understand complex things, like if there is truly a God. However, parents are there to make a choice for them, with good intentions. Yes, it is one of our traditions, but parents baptize their children in order to build a foundation for them. Now, when the infant grows up, they will have the choice of renewing their baptismal vows, which is why there is the sacrament of Confirmation.]]> 2022-08-11 16:36:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259198198 kcbawagan https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259207399 There are many things that parents choose for their infants. Their name, food, clothes, and shelter are some of them. One of the fundamental things that parents give to their children is their knowledge and wisdom, this includes basic knowledge like language to teaching what is good and bad which is mostly embedded into culture and religion. People pass their culture on all the time, our parents taught us many of the practices we do to this day like proper manners (ex. saying "po" and "opo") or superstitions that we still commit to doing even though we know they aren't real (ex. knock on wood). These things are generally considered okay to be passed on, so the same should apply for passing on one's religion. Praying daily, going to mass, and loving others are things that are taught to us after baptism, and that is okay. It isn't forcing our culture or religion onto these infants because these infants have yet to develop their culture or religion. After all, just because you are part of a religion doesn't mean you have to think the same way as everyone else in that religion. Growing up, a person in a religion can still have their own beliefs and understanding of how the world works. ]]> 2022-08-11 16:49:40 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259207399 acbaz https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259262369 Because I believe that baptism is a huge privilege and responsibility, when a child is born into a Christian family. Yes it is against their freedom or free will to choose, but this kind of tradition has been practice for many centuries now we cannot do anything about it. We should just accept this kind of practice because we all know as Christian that this kind of public commitment is necessary at some certain point in our lives.]]> 2022-08-11 18:08:23 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259262369 aevelo3 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259335417 The way that I see it, I agree with many of the arguments in favor which say that there is a point in time where parents are in charge of making decisions for their children, but I also agree that all humans deserve the right to have the freedom to choose their religion. In all obviousness, if the parents of a child are devout Christians, there is no doubt that they would also want their child to be part of their belief, but the same also applies if those same parents would then happen to practice other religions or just don't believe in any. In any case, the point of religion is the same as any philosophical belief which aims to guide people to being good. The point of conflict should not lie within if parents should or should not decide for their own infant, but that parents should know how to teach their children to be kind and good by being role models, with or without religion. If there were a point when a child decides that they do not want to practice the same beliefs as their parents, it is the duty of being a good parent to let their children decide and learn for themselves if their decisions were good or not, of course with proper care and caution.]]> 2022-08-11 20:14:11 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259335417 pfmarasigan https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259457906 Parents see Christianity as the best thing for their child as they are far more familiar with it, which means that they would be able to raise and guide them to have a life that is the best in their eyes. ]]> 2022-08-12 00:46:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259457906 jnmalabanan https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259483272 All humans are made in the image and likeness of God and we were once his children. However we have been lost due to original sin and after that, God has been continuously trying to find us again by sending the prophets until He sent His only Son to be sacrificed for us all that we may all be saved. So it is through the Sacrament of Baptism that we become his children again thus the earlier we become his children, the better. ]]> 2022-08-12 01:26:36 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259483272 cbgedaya https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259528177 Infants cannot make the decision whether they want to get baptized or not so the decision falls into the hands of the parents. Parents wanting the best for their child is not really a bad thing whatsoever so choosing to practice their Christian beliefs in the infant does not really bring any harm to the infant whatsoever. ]]> 2022-08-12 02:39:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259528177 ramacaballug https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259541214 Parents believe that baptizing their children is for the baby's own good. If done properly (i.e. not shoving the Bible down the child's throat), he or she may even grow up to accept the religion. However, it is still the child's choice if he or she grows up not wanting to believe in the religion. ]]> 2022-08-12 03:02:54 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259541214 jspardines https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259550866  We all know that parents are responsible for making decisions for their children. However, there are times when some people change their religion for the sake of their marriage. It is not necessary to change the religion after marriage because there is no law that provides for the change of a woman's religion after marriage. But people can't disrespect each other and have things work. Parents want what is best for their children. That's why if there is a chance that they want to practice that religion, they should support them with knowledge and respect. ]]> 2022-08-12 03:22:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259550866 jgangeles https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259588113 There are a lot of things that parents consider for their baby and one of these things is having to baptize their baby. They have good intentions for the baby because being a christian or Roman catholic will lead the baby to a better future and a better life. They will grow with fear of God.]]> 2022-08-12 04:19:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259588113 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259603407 The things that every person wishes to do in life will be reduced by baptism. Roman Catholics consider having their children baptized because it shows them that they are honoring God, which is vital to them in their religious rituals. Baptism is mostly a cultural practice for Christians, especially Roman Catholics for whom baptism is a requirement. You must be baptized in order to receive your first communion and become married. It shows how baptism newborns restricts their ability to pursue their interests later in life or as they mature.]]> 2022-08-12 04:53:24 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259603407 jsbatiller https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259605643 Not all Catholics agree on whether infants born to believing parents should be baptized, but Christians do believe that having a kid born into a Christian home is a significant honor and obligation. Even those who oppose baptizing babies hold dedication ceremonies in which they celebrate God's blessings and commit to raising their child in God's ways.]]> 2022-08-12 04:59:03 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259605643 vllonzame https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259611329 Infants do not yet know anything about the world and does not even knowledge about our lives. They also don't know how to choose such as whether they will be baptize or not. Parents are the only people who will decide about this matter because they already have a knowledge about our life. As a Catholic, they should know the importance of the Sacrament of Baptism. First is because it makes a person enter the kingdom of Christ and especially it washes away the original sin from the infant.

]]> 2022-08-12 05:13:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259611329 ipsunga https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259616265 Infants does not have the capability to decide for themselves, thus making their parents decide for them. Parents only want the best for their children and if they think that baptizing them is best for them then they can do it, but if along the way the child decided to change their religion then they should let them.]]> 2022-08-12 05:26:55 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259616265 https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259630302 Against the argument that infants should be able to choose their religion later on in their life, it's like saying, they should choose their name, they cannot choose properly until they take all options and factors into account, such as scriptures, traditions, etc. With hundreds and thousands of religions, it will be peer pressure to let your child learn about all the religions and choose one he/she fancies later on in their life, it is better in my opinion for them to just be baptized as an infant than go under all of that later on in their life.]]> 2022-08-12 06:04:08 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259630302 jttalento https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259662775 Infants are unable to decide whether or not they wish to be baptized, therefore the choice rests with the parents. Choosing to exercise their Christian beliefs in the newborn doesn't actually cause any harm to the infant because parents desiring the best for their kid is not really a negative thing at all.]]> 2022-08-12 07:17:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259662775 jrsimundac https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259664893
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Christians have normalized to have their own children be baptized ASAP. It is in our practice. We just follow because we know it is good.

Looking at the other side of the argument, some may seem to claim that "baptizing infants is like forcing the religion upon them." 

FROM THE CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE: "IDC if it is forcing the religion unto the child (it doesn't matter). It  means 'SAVING MY CHILD FROM HELL' " 

PHILO: "An infant cannot fend for himself"
An infant needs somebody to look up to therefore (looking at the other side of the argument) "it is not forcing the religion upon the infant because the infant needs "a way to follow" which the Christian parents have provided.

 ]]> 2022-08-12 07:22:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259664893 gbapo https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259701063 2022-08-12 08:44:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259701063 acfrancisco https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259935871 If one can be good without believing in any religion, then not being baptized as an infant will not really affect the person's morality. As long as the child is aware of the religion, then they do not have to be given any obligations to follow it at that early age. They can have the freedom to choose if they do want to get baptized in the future or not. For me, it is simply about choice. If the child would like to practice a religion when they are older that's completely alright and the same should go if they decide not to. To be clear, if parents decide to have their child baptized as an infant, then there is no problem with that. I just personally lean onto giving the child themself a choice. ]]> 2022-08-12 15:59:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jaadizon/6koacor2ajar637u/wish/2259935871