Travelers' Tales and Observations by Mrs. Alvarez https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers Primary Source Socratic Seminar Forum en-us 2016-11-03 15:22:22 UTC 2026-01-17 17:14:52 UTC hello@padlet.com Arab Muslim in W. Africa  - Ibn Battuta talvarez253 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135122314 Women: Could have companions and men could not object to it. Both men and women could do this.
Fridays: Clothing has to be white go to Mosque
Bird symbolism - Why?
Connections to today: Take off their clothes before the king to show humility/ respect
Difference: Women's roles seem to be placed much higher than in other cultures. "surpassing beauty"

]]> 2016-11-03 15:31:31 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135122314 Chinese Buddhist in India - Xuanzang talvarez253 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135127421 Traveled there to learn about the origin of Buddhis
Stayed there for 10 years
Went to monastery there then went back to China and taught it to Chinese.
Translated Buddhist writings into Chinese to share with his people - took two decades of his life.
Traveled by boat
Harsha: Ruler of the state - he established a relationship with him. 
Why did they form this relationship? Mutual benefit?
Did anything in India alter his way of thinking?
Why did the students have to study so rigorously?
Connection: travel to spread religion similar to that of Christianity spreading through the 12 disciples and later Crusades.
Women cannot remarry - Similar to Catholic religion unless you get an annulment.

]]> 2016-11-03 15:41:49 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135127421 Marco Polo - Italy to Eurasia to China under Mongol rule talvarez253 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135133005 From well-known merchant family
Most celebrated traveler along silk road
Encounter Kublai Khan ruler of China
Refers to Chinese city as beautiful - finest and noblest of the world, filled with craftsmen, merchants
Women tried to seduce men and in turn gain wealth and riches
Physicians, astronomers, and ppl were taught how to read and write
Men and Women treated equally --- Patriarchal?
Clean , wore silk clothing
Rich in Wine, spices
Q- Who were other members of the family
Q - Scholars question was he really in China?
Q - Why so peaceful?
Q - To draw comparison - how could he say that the city was one of the largest in the world

]]> 2016-11-03 15:52:47 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135133005 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135414613 2016-11-04 15:23:22 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135414613 Alida- @ Marco Polo  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135417698 What caught his eyes the most when it came to the city he thought was so beautiful?]]> 2016-11-04 15:30:28 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135417698 Mishelys https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135418977 @Marco Polo
I think that Marco Polo was really in China. He gave examples of the features and details of the Chinese society. Were there any reasons to make scholars believe that he wasn't ?]]> 2016-11-04 15:33:46 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135418977 Beyonce https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135419324  @ Marco Polo 
I believe that archeologists may have discovered fossil and architectures to back their statement to say he was really in China ]]> 2016-11-04 15:34:42 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135419324 Brianna https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135419738 @ Marco Polo 
Not a patriarchal society since it was mentioned that both men and women were treated equally. There wasn't much of a male dominance ]]> 2016-11-04 15:35:47 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135419738 Jade @ Arab in w. Africa https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420438 If the people were Muslim, why was it ok to commit adultery?]]> 2016-11-04 15:37:24 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420438 Alvarez @Brianna talvarez253 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420850 Do you think that perhaps this confirms that Marco Polo didn't actually travel to China since so much else from Chinese history and culture tells us that it was a patriarchal society? If not, and you do believe that he in fact, traveled there, what about his writings convinces you of this?

]]> 2016-11-04 15:38:26 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420850 Jade @marco polo  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420921 Was prostitution the only field or job women could choose to do?]]> 2016-11-04 15:38:36 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135420921 @xuanzang Taylor https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421131 How did uuummm the Buddhist travel? What mode of transportation.]]> 2016-11-04 15:39:09 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421131 Brianna  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421295 @ Marco Polo 
I don't believe he traveled enough to know that the city was one of the largest. But because he found it to be very big he assumed it must've been one of the largest and studies later proved that he was right ]]> 2016-11-04 15:39:32 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421295 Alida -@ Arab  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421450 Did it matter what age you were when you went to see the king ? If there was a child around would the child have to take off their clothing too ? ]]> 2016-11-04 15:39:55 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421450 Mishelys https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421520 @Ibn Battuta
Why must they wear only white to pray in the mosque? Did white symbolize holiness?]]> 2016-11-04 15:40:05 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421520 Beyonce https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421647 @ Chinese Buddhist in India 
If he went to India for 10yrs as Chinese did it take him that short time to learn the language to be able to go back to China and translate it what he had learn]]> 2016-11-04 15:40:28 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135421647 @ alida  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422018 I think that just how peaceful and efficient the city was , made him fall in love with it. That and all its riches imported from other places, etc.]]> 2016-11-04 15:41:26 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422018 Beatrice @Arab Muslim                                                           If you didn't take your clothes off before seeing the king, would you have some type of punishment?  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422326 2016-11-04 15:42:15 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422326 Cassie https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422524 @Xuangzang 
His views altered because once he learned and understood the Indian ways, he was determined to learn their language and translate to Chinese so that he can present his findings. ]]> 2016-11-04 15:42:43 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135422524 Jaz https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423105 @Idn why did they have to wear white ?]]> 2016-11-04 15:44:17 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423105 Alida - Taylor  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423243 By ship 

]]> 2016-11-04 15:44:42 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423243 Beyonce  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423280 @ alida 
I believe the children had to follow too because it really didn't matter the age you had to show the right amount of respect towards the king

]]> 2016-11-04 15:44:50 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423280 Taylor @Chinese Buddhist https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423507 Was this Buddhist thought of as holy because he studied in monasteries which were like holy places where religious people meditated? Was he a religious figure because he had so much knowledge?

]]> 2016-11-04 15:45:27 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423507 Alida @beyonce https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423539 It took him 10 years so it took him a short amount of time even though he was in India for only 10 years he went back to China 16 years after ]]> 2016-11-04 15:45:33 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423539 Mishelys https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423552 @Brianna
What does China having a patriarchal society have anything to do with Marco Polo not actually traveling to China or not?]]> 2016-11-04 15:45:36 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135423552 Beyonce https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424148 @ Arab Muslim in west africa

Still don't know why the bird was so significant to this group of people?????????

]]> 2016-11-04 15:47:06 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424148 Alida - @taylor  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424265 He was very known in China because it took him 2 decades to translate his learnings in Chinese  ]]> 2016-11-04 15:47:25 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424265 Jade @arab muslim https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424512 Birds served as a great symbol for Muslim territories/countries because it is believed that they are proof of God's existence. Also because of a holy war, birds came and helped defeat the non Muslims by dropping rocks on them. So ironically birds are a sign of God ]]> 2016-11-04 15:48:02 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424512 Cassie https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424527 Why was the bird used for symbolism?

]]> 2016-11-04 15:48:04 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424527 Beyonce  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424660 @mishelys
They had to wear white because it's like something they did from generation to generation similiar to Muslim they wear their higib 


]]> 2016-11-04 15:48:22 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135424660 Taylor @Battuta https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135425132 Why is wearing white clothes on Friday a religious thing?? It could be a cultural thing, right??]]> 2016-11-04 15:49:28 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135425132 Jade @taylor  https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135426691 I believe they wore white to go to masjid because white symbolizes purity, and in order for a prayer to be accepted your body has to be clean and pure and the clothes have to be clean. ]]> 2016-11-04 15:53:41 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135426691 Jade @beyonce https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135427583 No beyonce that's wrong. The Muslims wore hijab because they believe your hair is your beauty and only your husband should see it. Not because it was done for generations. ]]> 2016-11-04 15:56:04 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135427583 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135427612 2016-11-04 15:56:09 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/135427612 Comparing African king Lobengula and British imperialism in India. govinpersaud99 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/141123659 British imperialism in India caused the Indians to have American names and then be treated differently because the British thought the Indians cheat. In this imperiliasm with king Lobengula the kings thrown basically got taken away and that then causes imperialism because then Africa will then be under the Europeans rule so now everything will change. - Petricia ]]> 2016-12-01 14:59:44 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/141123659 govinpersaud99 https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/141125793 @jade I agree with you I believe they wore white to show purity ...- petricia ]]> 2016-12-01 15:04:30 UTC https://padlet.com/talvarez253/APtravelers/wish/141125793