RACE & PERSONAL IDENTITY (p3) by Michael Dickel https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm What does the novel say about the relationship between race (being black/African-American) and one's sense of self / one's identity? en-us 2018-03-06 14:17:57 UTC 2026-03-11 00:02:57 UTC hello@padlet.com Adora and abbey https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238636481 it is not clear if janie's defiance and mixed racial make up are necesarily connected with each other, but the novel paints Jamie's character as one without border. Race is a part of one's identity, especially during post civil war era's extreme  segregation and prejudicial behavior. yet Janie reflects how race is not the sole part of one's identity. Janie's story also reflects on her journey as a woman, a lover, and an independent.]]> 2018-03-06 14:49:49 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238636481 One's sense of self is influenced by their race, whether from others or from yourself. With Janie, race shows how other people's opinions of race influences you, whereas with Mrs. Turner it is shown how your perception of race can influence you. ---Katie, Gaby, Kelsey, Sara https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238645825 -Janie's race does not affect her sense of self vs it does. -- Janie does not think about race as much, maybe she does not have to care as much as others? --- reasoning behind how race influences Janie.
- Also important to note that Janie is not a minority in her town
- The black children made fun of her for "living in a white person's backyard" --- is that based on her race? 
-Also Ms. Turner!!!]]> 2018-03-06 15:01:18 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238645825 In the early years of Janie's life, Janie learned to live amongst everyone else normally, despite her ethnicity. She did not know what life was like for most African-American's at the time and through this formed a newfound independence through personal exploration. Although she lived her life around white folk and had her own independence, Janie still had a lot of learning to do on herself and her identity in the world. https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646157 Eva and Jalyn]]> 2018-03-06 15:01:42 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646157 race and identity are separate things that don't have to agree or influence each other (Janie not knowing that she's African American when she's a child; Mrs. Turner preferring to be white over African American); novel implies that sense of self is more important than race but society places an emphasis on race https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646331 other influences like gender may impact one's sense of self more than race

-Rachel, Helen, Florina, Sheri]]> 2018-03-06 15:01:55 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646331 The novel recognizes that society often uses race to define people but each individual has a choice to let race become the main part of their identity https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646774 - Mrs. Turner does not define herself as black but she places a high importance on race.
 - Mrs. Turner defined Janie as whiter because of her lighter skin and straight hair
-Janie didn't even know that she was black until she was six and she never acted differently because of her lighter skin or straight hair.
               - a lot of people were envious of Janie's hair because they saw it as better or prettier than common black hair
- Nanny defined herself and Janie as black women not because it was an intrinsic part of her identity but because she knew what the world could do to black women.
-"Black women are the mules of the world" - they do all the hardest work (narrator's view)

Maggie + Sophia+ Noemi+ Makenzie]]> 2018-03-06 15:02:27 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238646774 Race does not need to affect social standings as shown by Janie. She never let her complexion affect the way she acted whereas Mrs. Turner cared way too much about how she looked and let that affect her social standing at least in her mind. 411554 https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238647268 Thomas, Rachel, George]]> 2018-03-06 15:03:04 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238647268 Evan & Adam https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238647332 With regard to most of the community race never was really salient everyone seemed to have this "shared idea" of who they were generally status appeared to matter more, and how each character interprets their race seemed to really define them if they felt it important.
-ideas on race are actually quite diverse depending on the character
- w/ Mrs. turner there is this odd emphasis on race with in a race of sorts, shade racism, or trying to assert superiority.
-Janie's own race is this odd mix of transience as she didn't know her own race and due to her beging raised with and by white people which adds this distinction between her and other black people even though to black people she isn't quite like them. 

]]> 2018-03-06 15:03:08 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238647332 The novel says that race contributes to one's sense of self-- Teacake, for example, wanted Ms. Turner's approval, which shows his insecurity about his dark skin. Ms. Turner's self-hatred demonstrates how her race negatively affected her sense of self and created her arrogant attitude in making a complexion hierarchy https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238648774
Nabila, Sarah, Mimi, Tess]]> 2018-03-06 15:04:50 UTC https://padlet.com/michael_dickel/5wwdhn4fdxzm/wish/238648774