Fahrenheit 451 Reflection Responses by Molly McDonald

ben (first)

2024-10-17 13:23:10 UTC

The Icarus allusion and the Dover Beach poem are the allusions that work the most, and the rest of them are just fun references that don't add much else to the story.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:25:29 UTC

To add on to Ben, such "useless / meaningless" allusions include famous people, from Benjamin Franklin to Abraham Lincoln.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:26:49 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of Fahrenheit 451 by giving deeper meaning to the story. They explain events with deeper context. Some allusions are the Icarus one from the captain. I think they are useful because they add context to situations.

Noah

2024-10-17 13:26:57 UTC

Most likely Clarisse McLellan, whose questioning of the morals of the soceity around her makes Montag question his own.

Nicholas

2024-10-17 13:27:38 UTC

Clarise McCellan catalyzed Montag to start questioning things and collecting books.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:27:41 UTC

One specific catalyst character (Clarisse McCellan) triggers a change in Guy Montag, as she makes him question the purpose of life, inevitably making him rebellious against not possessing books, and being chased by the Mechanical Hound. It has changed his life from him being a firefighter to him being a refugee with books.

Adelaide Peck The impact is that it gives a deeper meaning to the story and it gives readers a history. The Dover Beach poem was the most effective and the Benjamin Franklin allusion was least effective.

2024-10-17 13:28:18 UTC

ben

2024-10-17 13:28:23 UTC

The lady in the fire (yes, I still am on that) who died for her books was the first person who actually got Montag thinking of his stance on books, which was advanced even more by Clarisse, who questioned his profession and challenged society at every turn, before mysteriously dying in a car crash

derrick

2024-10-17 13:28:32 UTC

I really liked the Icarus illusions because in my opinion most of them were random, and were hard to understand.

McKenna

2024-10-17 13:28:32 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers in Fahrenheit 451, is that people question society today. Just like Clarisse.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:28:37 UTC

The Dover Beach poem was the allusion that was most effective and the least effective was when he said many famous writers that did not have a lot of info

mika

2024-10-17 13:28:45 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers can be important, because when he references something, it can either help the reader understand more how Bradbury wanted to describe something, or it could be an inside joke.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:29:31 UTC

Mildred is one example, as she's stuck with her seashell radio (earbuds), to stimulate her, creating no self-reflection or thought.

derrick

2024-10-17 13:29:34 UTC

Clarise Mcellnan, catalyzed and triggered Montag with all of the questions.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:29:52 UTC

When Clarisse was questioning society it made Montag question as well so that made him trigger/ speed up the change of Montag

ben

2024-10-17 13:29:55 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are the largest foil characters in the story, as Clarrise's calm and unique personality contrasts with Mildred's stolid and vegetative state. (Except vegetables grow, Mildred doesn't.) Clarrise is also shown to actively question society, compared to the piece of granite pretending to be Montag's wife, who doesn't care much about anything other than her family, which she sometimes cares about.

Wesley

2024-10-17 13:29:56 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse show different aspects of their dystopian world. Mildred is clearly already affected and in the deep midst and fog. Clarisse, however, sees through it all. She is designed to show Montag that there is a problem with the world. Mildred and Clarisse are two side effects of the world and are completely different because one understands it, but the other, Mildred is too deep to come back from the dark forest.

Abby

2024-10-17 13:30:03 UTC

The allusions add deeper meaning to the book. The most effective allusions were Icarus and Dover Beach, and the least effective would be Benjamin Franklin.

mika

2024-10-17 13:30:06 UTC

Clarisse was definitely a catalyst that made Montag reconsider and question many things that helped change how Guy saw literature/society.

Noah

2024-10-17 13:30:12 UTC

The least effective allusions are usually placed between dialogue, which if "in on" seem like the author is trying to sound fancy and if not "in on" make no sense whatsoever.

The most affective allusions are ones that occur in large para-speech things, giving the reader time to think about them and contributing to the overall message of that part of the story.

McKenna

2024-10-17 13:30:23 UTC

When Clarisse McLean comes in the story, she questions her existence in the dystopia world. She catalyzed and disturbed Montag with all sorts of questions.

Adelaide Peck

2024-10-17 13:30:30 UTC

Clarisse McLellan was the person who triggered Montag's change. She talked about how this society wasn't right and that it needed change.

Javi

2024-10-17 13:30:41 UTC

In Fahrenheit 451 the impact of the allusion Is that they use this to bring a connection and meaning to a reader in the book. The most useful allusion was the Dover beach allusions and the least effective would be Benjamin Franklin.

derrick

2024-10-17 13:31:01 UTC

Mildred is an example because she stuck with her seashell radio earbuds.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:31:05 UTC

One reason why Farenheit 451 has been popular is due to how much it relates to the modern world. Nowadays, many people mindlessly are stimulated by social media, and also wear "seashell radios", replaced their lives with electronics, and much more.

Maya

2024-10-17 13:31:09 UTC

Allusions help to connect this dystopian society to our society today. However, I found that the amount of allusions to authors were unnecessary. They take away from the meaning and setting of the story, and put your focus on things that might not need to be focused on.

Marielys

2024-10-17 13:31:19 UTC

The impact of the allusions is that it helps the reader get a larger understanding of what is happening in the story. it increases the description

McKenna

2024-10-17 13:31:47 UTC

Bradbury uses Clarisse and Mildred as specific foil characters, to help Montag change.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:31:48 UTC

While Mildred is in a dystopian world and does not know anything about literature Clarisse on the other hand knows about society and questions people why its like this.

mika

2024-10-17 13:32:01 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are foil characters to each other. They are complete opposites, Clarisse is full of life and loves to think about things, whereas Mildred is in a vegetative state, not really contemplating anything and giving in to the dystopian society.

ben

2024-10-17 13:32:05 UTC

It was one of the earlier dystopian books, which was a new genre that barely started to become mainstream a decade before this book. It was made in the time where burning books was still a possibility, and the book was looking like an instruction manual for many countries instead of being fiction, so it had the ability to captivate audiences in a post WW2 state of unease.

Adelaide Peck Clarisse and Mildred were foil characters. Clarisse doesn't like the society and questions it-she also likes being outside, but Mildred doesn't care and never goes outside and only loves her "family".

2024-10-17 13:32:07 UTC

Javi

2024-10-17 13:32:08 UTC

Clarise was a catalyst that sped up the changes in Montag because she was what sparked the interest in books for Montag.

derrick

2024-10-17 13:32:34 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has been such a popular novel for so long because of all the things the book has to offer to its readers. The book is interesting and has a fun plot.

Abby

2024-10-17 13:32:43 UTC

Clarisse McClellan was a catalyst for Guy Montag because she made him question his happiness, job, and the society he lived in.

Noah

2024-10-17 13:32:48 UTC

Mildred.

Mildred is probably the biggest foil in literature history.

Mildred is a pushover, and doesn't question anything of what the authorities say. She is spoon-fed products and "information", in great contrast to Montag, who is curious and distrustful of his superiors in the congress building and in the firehouse.

EDIT: patrick you cant do that

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:32:49 UTC

Fehrenheit 451 has remained popular after so much time Because this book can reflect on the modern world that we live in.

Brayden

2024-10-17 13:32:56 UTC

All those authors like Charles Darwin and Thomas Jefferson were the least effective and the icarus one was the most effective.

Josh

2024-10-17 13:33:06 UTC

The allusions that were most effective during Fahrenheit 451 was the Dover Beam poem, and the Icarus allusion. Some other allusions that weren't as effective are the Ben Franklin allusion stating that he was the first person to start burning books, which doesn't impact the story as big as the other ones.

McKenna

2024-10-17 13:33:14 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular over many years, because some problems like bombings and real life politics are the same in the dystopia and real world.

Thu

2024-10-17 13:33:31 UTC

Allusions can impact readers since it has a better understanding and explaination. The most effective is the Dover beach, and the which isn't effective is when he was naming writer names.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:33:44 UTC

The allusions that are most effective are the ones which are constantly refrenced or used to describe people, such as poetry. However, the least effective allusions are ones mentioning specific people at most twice.

Wesley

2024-10-17 13:33:47 UTC

First of all, no one has ever written about it before. The subject of burning books is a very interesting topic and an infamous part of history. The soviets burned the authors themselves, and Ray Bradbury, along with many families' ancestors were old enough to experience WW2 firsthand. People show empathy and love to the idea and situation of readers and authors back in the day.

Adelaide Peck

2024-10-17 13:33:58 UTC

It remained popular because it talked about the future and really reimagined this world. People were fascinated by his thoughts and if it was really going to happen.

Michael

2024-10-17 13:34:08 UTC

I agree with Ben that the "Dover Beach" poem was a pretty effective poem and the least effective was when it just mentioned a bunch of writers names and I didn't understand.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:34:15 UTC

Clarisse is a catalyst for Guy Montag because she makes him think about if he is truly happy, and she causes him to deeply think about what he's doing in his life.

Brayden

2024-10-17 13:34:32 UTC

clarisse was a character who increased the change in guy because she him about the books and how interesting they're.

Marielys

2024-10-17 13:34:48 UTC

Clarisse Mclean helps speed up change in Montag. After talking to Clarisse he sees the world differently and gets influenced to read books.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:35:00 UTC

I really agree with Nicholas, as overall, Clarisse changed Montag's life.

Thu

2024-10-17 13:35:39 UTC

Clarisse triggered the change since she asked him many questions which sped up the change.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:35:45 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are foils for one another because they are polar opposites. While Mildred just follows what others are doing and rots away watching her 3 TVs, Clarisse doesn't follow what society does but what she would like to do.

Michael

2024-10-17 13:35:55 UTC

I think that Clarisse was one of the main people to speed up Guy Montag's change.

mika

2024-10-17 13:36:11 UTC

F451 has been enjoyed by many generations because it's a timeless novel. It shows a dystopian society far into the future that people might think is crazy compared to society now, but it's more alike than we think, with the seashell radios, wall-sized TVs, etc. These can be seen as very similar to some of our new technology.

Josh

2024-10-17 13:36:13 UTC

Clarisse McLellan was the main catalyst character who actually pushed Montag to start investigating and question why we even burn books in the first place, just like Noah said.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:36:23 UTC

I agree with Noah, as Mildred could be described as just a typical person.

Noah

2024-10-17 13:36:29 UTC

It spoke of a future without information, without books, with braindeadness rampant. The critically acclaimed novel tackled issues that some books even today don't acknowledge, and warns of just taking information spoon-fed to you for granted, an age-old lesson.

Javi

2024-10-17 13:36:41 UTC

Mildred and Clarise are foil characters because Mildred was written as a character who fell into the dystopian society and Clarise is a character who was written to break those rules and not give in to the dystopian society.

Brayden

2024-10-17 13:36:41 UTC

It remains popular because it has been banned in schools and also talks about burning books. It also talks about modern problems like propaganda and bombings.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:36:58 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because of the themes the book has. It's an interesting book to read and has themes that everyone should listen to.

Jack

2024-10-17 13:37:08 UTC

I agree with Ben the Dover beach poem and Icarus story were the two main allusions.

Patrick

ptobeomendoza — 2024-10-17 13:37:13 UTC

I agree with Wesley, as overall, history still remains a common topic.

Maya

2024-10-17 13:37:16 UTC

There are many characters that speed up development in Montag. One of them is Faber, a retired English professor. Faber is a mentor to Montag, and guides him through his understanding and acknowledgement of the value of books.

Alina

2024-10-17 13:37:17 UTC

Clarisse McLellan triggered the change in Montag by questioning the society, and that made Guy question it as well.

mika

2024-10-17 13:37:35 UTC

I agree with Brayden, only some allusions were caught, and the more famous allusions used in the book were identified.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:37:53 UTC

I agree with Ben saying that the Icarus allusion and Dover Beach poem are the main allusions.

Jack

2024-10-17 13:38:12 UTC

Clarisse was a main catalyst that changed the whole story.

mika

2024-10-17 13:38:15 UTC

I agree with Patrick, Clarisse Mclellan was one of the major catalyst characters and changed the course of Montag's life.

Michael

2024-10-17 13:38:36 UTC

I agree with Ben, I think Mildred and Clarisse are the foil characters because Mildred wants to embrace the society that she lives in while Clarisse doesn't like the way that things are in the society.

Abby

2024-10-17 13:38:37 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are foil characters because Mildred prefers to spend most of her time watching television/listening to the radio, so she doesn't really think for herself, while Clarisse spends all her time thinking and enjoys talking to other people.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:38:38 UTC

I agree with Ben that the lady in the fire was a catalyst. She sped up Montag's growth and really changed him.

Ethan

2024-10-17 13:38:46 UTC

Allusions are important because it gives a deeper meaning to the text and one of the most important allusions are the Icarus one.

brandon

2024-10-17 13:38:51 UTC

the most effective aullsion was the icarus poem and the one that are the most weak is benjamin franklin

Nicholas

2024-10-17 13:39:00 UTC

Some allusions in Fahrenheit 451 give a little context like the allusion to Ben Franklin but some like the allusion to the poem Dover beach and Iccarus give more context and give a deeper meaning to the book.

Javi

2024-10-17 13:39:11 UTC

This remained popular for many generations because Ray Bradbury made allusions to many important people to this day so the book stayed relevant.

brayden

2024-10-17 13:39:16 UTC

Mildred and Clarrise are good examples because they are used to help montag change.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:39:19 UTC

I agree with Ben when he says that Clarisse and Mildred are the biggest foil characters because of the big contrast between them.

Marielys

2024-10-17 13:39:23 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred.

They are two completely different character who prioritise opposite things. for example Clarisse likes asking about the world and is always out side while Mildred is always inside with the "family"

Ethan

2024-10-17 13:39:38 UTC

The woman that burned with her books are great catalyst because Montag now understand the importance of books to people.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:39:41 UTC

I agree with Josh because Clarisse was the main character to change Montag.

mika

2024-10-17 13:39:47 UTC

I agree with Miguel, Clarisse has a more open mind and is full of ideas and questions, while on the other hand Mildred is more like a robot, or follows society.

Wesley

2024-10-17 13:40:00 UTC

To add on to everybody else, the tons of allusions also show Ray Bradbury's love and knowledge for books, though that doesn't have any real affect on the book itself

Michael

2024-10-17 13:40:13 UTC

I agree with Wesley, I think that the book is very unique and not a very common topic authors write about and also I think that it is a book that many generations can read and find it interesting.

Ryan

2024-10-17 13:40:33 UTC

I agree with Brayden when he says that Fahrenheit 451 is popular because of the modern problems it has in it. Propaganda and fake news are big problems in media today.

Josh

2024-10-17 13:40:45 UTC

I agree with Wesley, Ray Bradbury crafts specific characters as foils to each other to really highlight one character of their good or bad traits. Clarisse and Mildred are total opposites for example, Bradbury does this to highlight Clarisse as a catalyst to trigger a change in Montag.

brandon

2024-10-17 13:40:46 UTC

clarisse changed how montag looked at what use to be his everyday life he started to question the things that made him happy

Maya

2024-10-17 13:40:52 UTC

Bradbury creates 2 characters - Mildred and Clarisse to foil each other. Clarisse represents the educated and thoughtful part of society, and connects to our society today. Mildred is the opposite, having a short attention span and having very shallow thoughts.

Abby

2024-10-17 13:41:13 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because it shows a dystopian future that is still very possible in today's society, and stays relevant.

mika

2024-10-17 13:41:44 UTC

I agree with McKenna, it's enjoyable because you can see the scary similarities between Bradbury's distopian world and ours.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:41:44 UTC

I agree with Javi because Mildred did fall into dystopian society and Clarisse did not, she questions society

Ethan

2024-10-17 13:42:36 UTC

Mildred is one as her seashell radio is what keeps her going and she has never had a independent thought in the book.

Wesley

2024-10-17 13:42:39 UTC

Clarisse speeds up Montag's development by showing and telling him the truth in their short but meaningful conversation. Guy ends up thinking about her and what she said for the remainder of the book, and it affected many of his actions.

Josh

2024-10-17 13:42:43 UTC

I agree with Patrick on this question. The book relates to so many things that happen today including the use of technology and social media, like the seashell radios.

Miguel

2024-10-17 13:43:03 UTC

I agree with Ryan because Fahrenheit 451 does have interesting themes that we need to read

Jack

2024-10-17 13:43:23 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are foils to each other because they are complete opposites. While Mildred is cold and robotic, Clarisse is alive and thoughtful.

Jack

2024-10-17 13:44:07 UTC

It is still relevant to this day.

Adah

2024-10-17 14:12:45 UTC

I think the most effective allusion was the one to Icarus and Daedalus, because it really showed what the situation was like, and especially after we read the myth it helped us understand the book more deeply, but the weak ones were the lists of random old famous people that none of us knew about

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:13:38 UTC

The allusions can help deepen understanding of the story if you know those outside sources. For example, the Icarus one is effective because it is a popular/famous myth and it relates to what is happening. The less effective ones are probably the random names that most people do not know about.

Adah

2024-10-17 14:13:55 UTC

The woman who got burned with her books speeds up a change in Guy Montag because she makes him realize that they would do anything to burn the books.

Wole (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:14:26 UTC

I think that, like Ben, The Fall of Icarus was an allusion made by Captain Beatty that we could all understand. The other allusions to other famous poets and poems such as the poem by Edgar Allen Poe and the other poems are quite useless to common readers who don't know and read a lot of poems or classical literature.

Adah

2024-10-17 14:14:52 UTC

Bradbury crafts Mildred and Clarisse as foils to each other, because he makes Mildred everything Bradbury is speculating will happen in the future, and the citizen the government wants everyone to be, and he makes Clarisse the opposite.

Fiona

2024-10-17 14:15:14 UTC

Allusions in Fahrenheit 451 impact the readers by adding to Captain Beatty's character showing that he reads, and by showing how out of touch with emotion Mildred's friends are. The least effective, were the allusions to books toward the end of the story, and the most effective was Dover beach.

Adah

2024-10-17 14:15:40 UTC

I think F451 has remained popular because as the years go on, it becomes more and more relevant to today's world, and more and more of Bradbury's prediction begin to come true.

Hazel

Hazel_S — 2024-10-17 14:15:44 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers of F451 is to help relate and understand the situations better. The most effective allusions are when you understand the reference and the least effective allusions are when you don't understand. (sec 41)

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:16:12 UTC

Clarisse is a catalyst because she asks questions that nobody else does. She asks him if he is happy, and of course at first he says he is, but then he realizes he is not. She shifts his perspective on the society they are living in and the life he is living.

Fiona (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:16:19 UTC

The biggest catalyst for Guy is Clarrise, as she gets him to start questioning his society.

Kenneth

2024-10-17 14:16:32 UTC

I think that the Icarus and Dover beach allusions effectively represent the situation of the story.

Adah

2024-10-17 14:16:44 UTC

I agree with Adelaide that people were fascinated by his predictions

Wole (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:16:59 UTC

I agree with Noah because early on what started guys change was Clarisse's questioning of his morals and the morals of society which influences guy to start asking questions. The other catalyst was the woman in burning house who would rather die than let the books be burnt.

Shiri

2024-10-17 14:16:59 UTC

A catalyst character who speeds up change in Montag is Clarisse McLellan, who triggered his change, made him genuinely think about his happiness and if he was content with his life. Also, the old lady who was burned alive along with her books made Guy think about the reason why she would die just for books.

Ben (responding to derrick)

2024-10-17 14:17:03 UTC

This is correct, as many allusions were almost useless to the plot.

Kathleen (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:17:39 UTC

A catalyst in Fahrenheit 451 is Clarisse McLellan by asks questions and starts collecting books, which speeds up and triggers the story.

2024-10-17 14:17:45 UTC

the dover beach alliosion was powerful with characters have strong reactions and what the poem is and convays

Rayen Faouzi (Sec: 41)

2024-10-17 14:17:49 UTC

The impact of allusions on reader of Fahrenheit 451 is the readers learn much more about lot's of other authors.

Adrian (41)

2024-10-17 14:18:10 UTC

Some allusions are pretty fun to notice like Ben Franklin as the first fireman instead of the other way around. They don't really impact the story much, but some others like the Icarus allusion infers on the story and situation.

Shiri

2024-10-17 14:18:38 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are foils to each other. While Clarisse reminds Guy Montag of a natural fire like a candle, Mildred is represented by technology and technological light.

Fiona (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:18:46 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are the biggest foils to each other, clarisse loves nature, and is very skeptical of the world, and is constantly questioning while Mildred, doesn't seem to have any real deep thoughts, and is just absorbed in her seashell radio.

Kenneth

2024-10-17 14:18:46 UTC

I think that it's Clarisse who was the most effective since she was the one who got Montag thinking about his society.

Hazel

Hazel_S — 2024-10-17 14:18:49 UTC

A specific catalyst character is Clarisse. She makes Guy think about his life in a different way than he usually did. (sec 41)

Ben (responding to Thu)

2024-10-17 14:18:51 UTC

I still believe that the lady in the fire sparked it, but Clarisse is a good answer.

Marley Question 1

2024-10-17 14:18:51 UTC

The most effective allusion would be the Dover Beach and Icarus allusion. The weak allusions seem like ones that just fill up the text; it is not like you're supposed to know them. It just doesn't really add much to the overall story.

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:18:56 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are foils of each other, described by Montag in very different ways. Clarisse thinks for herself, likes to be outside, and questions things. Mildred is like everyone else, and only does things like watch TV.

Rayen Faouzi (Sec:41)

2024-10-17 14:19:22 UTC

A specific catalyst can trigger characters speed up because a character can go from not liking books to liking them just like what happened to, "Guy Montag"!

Fiona (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:19:40 UTC

It has stayed popular for so long because since it is a futuristic dystopian novel, is has nothing tying it to the time period in which it was written.

Ronan

2024-10-17 14:19:52 UTC

The allusions in Fahrenheit 451 have important impacts on understanding the novel, while also sometimes having no meaning. Things like the Icarus allusion are important because you have to understand the importance of what captain beatty has to say, revealing hidden key details about his personal life. On the other hand, alluding to people like Lord Byron is not useful.

Mason D

2024-10-17 14:20:11 UTC

The allusions in Fahrenheit 451 allow readers with a grasp of the meaning of the allusion to gain a better understanding of the story. The most inportant allusion in the novel is the dover beach poem since it added and had so much impact on the events in the story.

Wole (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:20:11 UTC

I believe that the two main and most important foil characters in the book are Clarisse Mcclellan and Mildred Montag. They both have many different thing that they both do. Clarisse starts Guys character development and Mildred shows how much guy has to deal with. They also contrast each other creating a big contrast against Guy.

Rayen Faouzi (Sec:41)

2024-10-17 14:20:29 UTC

Foil characters really do nothing much and are just characters than sit around and convey nothing or change nothing in the story just like, Mildred.

(41)Noel

2024-10-17 14:20:35 UTC

The impact of allusions on the readers are that it gives the story a deeper meaning and events with deep context to the book. The Icarus and Dover Beach allusions were the most effective though the rest also worked.

Nico (sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:20:36 UTC

the dover beach poem was powerful with characters having a strong reactions and what the poem shows about them

Adrian (41)

2024-10-17 14:20:59 UTC

There are multiple catalysts in F451 like Mildred and Beatty, but the main catalyst was mainly Clarisse McClellan. She was able to speed up a change in Montag by making him rethink his life again. She also died too

Ronan

2024-10-17 14:21:31 UTC

Clarisse causes the change in Montag to happen rapidly after only conversing once, making her one of the biggest catalysts.

Rayen Faouzi (Sec:41)

2024-10-17 14:21:32 UTC

It has remained popular over all these years because it is relatable, and many people feel like there locked in and nobody likes the thing you like, but there are some people which is a small amount!

Marley

2024-10-17 14:21:48 UTC

A specific character that speeds up the change in Guy Montag would probably be Clarisse McClellan since she made him question if he was actually happy or not.

Nico (sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:21:55 UTC

I think Clarisse is the catalist making montage go from burning to enjoying books

Kenneth

2024-10-17 14:22:19 UTC

It probably remained popular because the story reflects on modern society, such as people being focused on media like Mildred is.

(41)Noel

2024-10-17 14:22:20 UTC

Specific catalysts like Clarisse McCellan had a huge role in the change of Guy. Maybe without her he might not have changed at all. She was important because she helped Guy open his eyes to the problems of the world and what had to be done.

Wole (Sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:22:27 UTC

The reason that this dime novel is still so popular is the setting and how much we can relate to it still in this modern world. This also contains many bits and pieces of great literature and poets making it a top choice for english teacher.

Sashia

2024-10-17 14:22:29 UTC

The Icarus and the dover beach allusion represent the problems going on in F451.

Mason D

2024-10-17 14:22:31 UTC

The character Clarrise from the very beginning of the story changed Guy Montags whole world view most of the upcoming events and how Montag handled them

Hazel

Hazel_S — 2024-10-17 14:22:32 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters as foils to each other by making characters the opposite of other characters. (sec 41)

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:22:36 UTC

It's remained so popular because it's themes hold up throughout the years, even now. For example, technology being the main thing people use and a lot of misinformation, especially on the internet.

Kathleen (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:22:49 UTC

Mildred could be one example of a foil character. For example, she had her seashell radios in her ears and doesn't do much. She doesn't question anything, watches her TVs, and doesn't think for herself.

Nico (sec 41

2024-10-17 14:23:18 UTC

Clarrisse and Mildred are the foil characters both making guy montage look better

Lilian Le

2024-10-17 14:23:32 UTC

Allusions gives a strong impact to Fahrenheit 451 readers because they refer to the society and feelings of these characters.

Shiri

2024-10-17 14:23:48 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because of how it has somewhat accurately depicts how technology has become bigger and bigger, while books have become shunned to the side.

Hazel

Hazel_S — 2024-10-17 14:24:06 UTC

F451 has remained popular throughout generations because it is a good book that lots of people like. (sec 41)

alison (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:24:09 UTC

The impact of allusions in Fahrenheit 451 are important because it shows a new or more expanded meaning of the story. To me, the most effective allusion was Icarus and the least effective was Benjamin Franklin.

Ajay

2024-10-17 14:24:12 UTC

Allusions have deeper meaning to the story and gives readers a history which impact what people question about society.

Mason D

2024-10-17 14:24:18 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are both good examples since Mildred stuck with her seashell radio the whole time

Sashia

2024-10-17 14:24:31 UTC

The Catalyst is most likely to be Clarisse Mclellan, who questions what she is surrounded by and Also gets Montag to question his surroundings.

Ronan

2024-10-17 14:24:49 UTC

Mildred causes us to see the adventurous and curious nature of Clarisse. Clarisse is shown as a character who is outgoing and different, but in contrast, Mildred is depicted as a character with little to no emotion, (slave to the government).

Jasmine (41)

2024-10-17 14:25:17 UTC

The allusions help the readers with understanding F451 more. I felt like the Dover Beach poem was most effective. The allusion for Benjamin Franklin was the least since it doesn't affect the story as much.

Nico (sec 41)

2024-10-17 14:25:24 UTC

it shows humans compasity for destruction and shows the people that there is always room for wonder and creative and good

Kathleen (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:25:32 UTC

It has remained popular for generations because it relates to the modern world and how we can reflect on it. Even if it was written in the 1950s, it seems to have related to our world now and how we could imagine it in real life.

(41)Noel

2024-10-17 14:25:35 UTC

Specfic characters that were foil to eachother were Clarisse and Mildred. This is because they thought complete opposites of life because Clarisse didn't like society and questioned it often. While on the other hand, Mildred did not care at all about the problems of society etc.

Mason D

2024-10-17 14:25:38 UTC

One reason that this novel still holds up today is because it is set in a dystopian future world and unlike other books written in the past people can relate to things and events that happen

Lilian Le

2024-10-17 14:25:42 UTC

Clarisse for example, asked questions and express herself differently, causing Montag to question about his life if he was actually happy.

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:26:37 UTC

(responding to Maya) I agree that Allusions can help connect that society to ours, and that some of those allusions were definitely unnecessary to the plot, as others have also said.

Ajay

2024-10-17 14:26:51 UTC

Clarisse McClellan who always questioned about things around her, changed Guy Montag's view of society.

Tao (41)

2024-10-17 14:26:58 UTC

Allusions impact Fahrenheit 451 by adding more to Guy Montag's personality. He is the main character and allusions reveal lots about his identity.

2024-10-17 14:27:06 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are foil characters to each other. Mildred represents the ignorant society that they live in. How the government suppresses them and feeds them with mindless stimulants. Clarisse represents breaking free from those things.

Ronan

2024-10-17 14:27:12 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has been a popular novel for so long because, not only is it good, but it takes place in an imagined future, causing readers to see what he might or might not be right about.

Jasmine (41)

2024-10-17 14:27:20 UTC

Clarisse McCellan triggered the change in Guy Montag for the time she was hanging out around him asking multiple times about being happy.

Kenneth

2024-10-17 14:27:22 UTC

Ray Bradbury makes specific characters impact the main character, such as Faber and Clarisse impacting his view on his society.

Anh Minh (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:27:30 UTC

Allusions in Fahrenheit 451 can vary impact on the reader. Some allusions are just neat little references that barely develop the plot, while others, like Icarus and Daedalus, have more (and deeper) meaning to the novel and impact the reader in a more significant way.

Adrian (41)

2024-10-17 14:27:39 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are both foil characters. Mildred has already accepted the society that she is in. Mildred also put seashells near her ears to show that she is lost in thought. Meanwhile, Clarisse is the complete opposite. She contrasts Mildred by being the one who sticks out. She actively questions her society and shows thought into them.

alison (sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:27:40 UTC

A specific catalyst character is Clarisse. She sped up the change of Montag by asking him questions that made him think more about the world he's living in.

Sashia

2024-10-17 14:27:45 UTC

Bradbury makes Mildred and Clarisse foil characters towards each other, because they both end up changing Montag.

(41)Noel

2024-10-17 14:28:03 UTC

It has stayed popular because it had a large meaning and story to tell that also relates to modern day. Like social media influencing society.

Rye

2024-10-17 14:28:05 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of Fahrenheit 451 by helping us understand the story more in depth. An allusion that was affected was the Icarus one. This allowed the reader to comprehend the layers to this story.

Brydie Caetano (41)

2024-10-17 14:28:50 UTC

Clarrise McClellan is a catalyst that speeds up a change in Guy, because she makes him question the purpose of life, resulting in him stealing books.

Tao 41

2024-10-17 14:29:04 UTC

A catalyst who triggers a change in Guy, is Clarisse Mclellan. She made him realize that books are important and changed Guy's view of his world.

Marley

2024-10-17 14:29:15 UTC

Because it is based on a future society with things that we do now. For example, the sea shells represent earpods that we put on. The stimulants in F41 are like our phones that we watch stuff on.

Sashia

2024-10-17 14:29:20 UTC

It's a a somewhat old Dystopian book who catches a readers eyes but somehow doesn't have a certain theme to it.

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:29:32 UTC

(responding to Patrick) I agree with this a lot. Almost the whole book's events are caused by the conversations with Clarisse which basically caused a domino effect that you described.

(41)Noel

2024-10-17 14:29:43 UTC

To add to Ajay, it changed Guy's view of society because she showed him the faults and problems with it. Resulting in the change of Guy. 🤓

Kathleen (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:29:57 UTC

Allusions have a big impact on readers in Fahrenheit 451 because they help provide references to the topic and give the book deeper meaning.

Ella (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:30:23 UTC

Clarisse, who we are introduced to at the beginning of the book, is a catalyst character who causes Guy to change his mindset about books.

Rye

2024-10-17 14:30:27 UTC

Clarrise was a catalyst for Guy because she causes him to think about his emotions and how he is really feeling.

Shiri

2024-10-17 14:30:30 UTC

Allusions are impactful in Fahrenheit 451 because it creates a deeper connection and adds more meaning. It also shows Beatty's hypocrisy through his use of allusions. The most powerful allusion was the 'Dover Beach' or 'The Book of Ecclesiastes', and the least powerful ones were the random names that popped up.

alison (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:30:50 UTC

Bradbury made the characters Mildred and Montag foil each other. They didn't have much in common. While Mildred wanted to socialize and watch TV, Montag wanted to read books and run away from their world.

Tao 41

2024-10-17 14:30:51 UTC

A foil character is Mildred because she just sits around, sleeping and using her seashells. She basically had no use in the story.

Hazel

Hazel_S — 2024-10-17 14:30:51 UTC

I agree with Jasmine because she listed good and bad allusions. (sec 41)

Adrian (41)

2024-10-17 14:31:19 UTC

F451 has been able to remain popular throughout generations because of how it reflects our modern world. The dystopian topic about burning books is also an interesting idea. It also gives a sense of history like how in WWII, the soviets burned books.

Kamilah (Sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:31:31 UTC

I agree with this and really like how it is described as two different sides of the world.

Rye

2024-10-17 14:31:35 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are both foils because they change drastically throughout the story.

Brydie Caetano (41)

2024-10-17 14:31:49 UTC

Clarrise McClellan and Mildred are foils to each other, because they are the complete opposite. Mildred has clearly become conformed to the way society is by watching television and overdosing everyday. On the other hand, Clarrise questions society, and wants to find the meaning of life.

Jasmine(41)

2024-10-17 14:31:52 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are the foil characters in the story. Bradbury crafts Mildred as the one whose influenced by the dystopian society and doesn't want to break any rules. Clarisse though isn't caught by the dystopia in the new society she's in.

Lilian

2024-10-17 14:31:54 UTC

Mildred was a foil character that contrast Clarisse. Mildred isn't much outside while Clarisse is. She also wonders a lot in life.

alison (sec.41)

2024-10-17 14:32:03 UTC

I think F451 has remained popular for many generations because it gave people a new view on how the future would be like.

Tao 41

2024-10-17 14:32:04 UTC

It has remained popular because it talks about life in the future, which we haven't even reached yet.

Rye

2024-10-17 14:32:16 UTC

It has remained popular because it used literary devices and allusions like no other and it really sets itself apart from other stories.

Anh Minh (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:32:24 UTC

There are around three notable catalyst characters that trigger or speed up a change in Guy Montag. The first one that sticks out is Faber, at the very beginning of the book. You do keep in mind that Guy mentioned having a pleasant conversation with "an English professor", something that at that time, Guy never thought of that deeply. Next is the obvious, Clarisse, since she basically got Guy to think twice about the society he was living in, and get Guy to question his ways of living. Finally, there is the unnamed woman who burned with her books, since her death kinda shook Guy, and made him wonder "why would she die with her books?".

Ajay

2024-10-17 14:32:26 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are both specific foil characters to each other. Both characters are the complete opposite of each other. Clarisse always questioned about her surroundings while Mildred just fell into the world and accept life.

Ella (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:34:26 UTC

Allusions give more depth to a story, the Dover Beach allusion was the most effective.

2024-10-17 14:36:22 UTC

I gree with Ben since clarisse and Mildred were mostly foil characters since clarrise is a person that is curious about the world and Mildred is a wife of fire man and doesn't really care and addicted to TV

Ella (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:38:03 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are both foil characters because Mildred abides the rules and keeps to herself while Clarisse breaks the mold and advocate her opinions.

Ella (sec. 41)

2024-10-17 14:39:17 UTC

F451 is still relevant today because it is related to modern time.

Jasmine (41)

2024-10-17 15:26:44 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has stayed popular because of the dystopian society in the book. The plot is also really interesting for others to read.

Declan

2024-10-17 16:09:17 UTC

Some of the more effective allusions are ones with historical context that ties to the book, while others are just refrences for a reader to recognize.

Declan

2024-10-17 16:10:59 UTC

Clarisse triggers a quicker change in Guy by making him question the righteousness and morals of his life and career.

Declan

2024-10-17 16:13:43 UTC

Mildred is an example of a foil character, her views and personality don't change and she is stuck living as the government in that world wants.

Aden- Allusions give the effect of tone and dramatization. It really helps the reader understand this reference, or if they don't know the allusion it does no harm.

2024-10-17 16:16:11 UTC

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:16:26 UTC

I think the allusions show how though books are erased from society, they still influence us. The Icarus allusion is the best but most of the allusions are just fun Easter eggs for the reader.

Daniel

2024-10-17 16:16:59 UTC

Clarisse is a great example of a foil character because she opened the eyes of Montag and changed him.

Declan

2024-10-17 16:17:16 UTC

It showcases a relatively realistic dystopian world with a society that remains ignorant to what's really happening, and has lots of allusions people would get that just add to the story.

Clarisse Mcellan opens Guy's eyes up to the outside world and he gets curiosity from her.

2024-10-17 16:17:43 UTC

Micah

2024-10-17 16:17:45 UTC

The impact of allusions is that it helps the reader understand how the book relates to them and the real world. Like real writers and historical events and people. Some allusions where it is very unclear what it means are not effective.

gabriel

2024-10-17 16:17:48 UTC

The allusions to readers of Fahrenheit 451 are very important because they help the reader understand the time the book was written in and also the Icarus one shows good plot points and metaphors that could've been said, but instead are written with literature. Unimportant allusions are ones that only have their name and not pieces mentioned near the end.

Daniel

2024-10-17 16:18:28 UTC

I think the readers of F451 will be impacted on mostly the poems that are mentioned in the book and how Montag constantly uses that literature to say in real life. And less affected will probably be on the less obvious allusions.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:18:36 UTC

Bradbury had alluded many writers and stories, but the Icarus allusion stood out to be due to the symbolism and the reference is has to the story.

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:18:44 UTC

Clarisse changes Montag as she helps him understand what the real world is like beyond the government's control.

Gavin (Sec.51)

gmarks576 — 2024-10-17 16:19:01 UTC

Allusions bring more interest to the story and overall make it better. The allusions that are most effective are the ones that appear at the right moment in the book. The ones that are least effective are the ones that are just references.

Aden- Clarisse MCellan triggers Guy Montag's change in character because she peaks his curiosity.

2024-10-17 16:19:01 UTC

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:19:22 UTC

Clarisse is a character to changes Guy to start collecting books and questioning himself.

gabriel

2024-10-17 16:19:26 UTC

Clarise is very important in the book because she questions Montag's life quality and whether he's happy. Another important character is the book lady who died with her books and showed Montag furthermore how important books were to people.

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:19:37 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are two foil characters because they are completely opposite. Mildred is always using her seashell and using other technology like the parlor walls, while Clarisse enjoys nature which is a lot different from her society.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:19:46 UTC

Clarisse causes Montag to change because she asks him the question "Are you happy?".

Montag hears this question and realizes that he isn't in fact happy. Throughout his life he has been manipulated to enjoy what he is doing but he finally starts to question society after his encounter with Clarisse.

Yousef 51

2024-10-17 16:20:36 UTC

These allusions make the book more interesting and lead to other stories and informational writing.

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:20:41 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 is a lot like our society nowadays because we have better technology and people are more focused on short magazine articles rather than long books, similar to what Captain Beatty said to Montag.

Daniel

2024-10-17 16:20:53 UTC

I think the people at the hobo camp are what affected him the most and made him actually take action to the firemen and others in the end.

Gavin (Sec.51)

gmarks576 — 2024-10-17 16:21:03 UTC

Clarisse was the biggest catalyst character in the story by asking him if he was ahppy which triggered the change in his feelings toward his life.

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:21:22 UTC

I agree with Jaryn that the Icarus allusion was a symbol for Montag's story.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:21:37 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters as foils to each other such as Clarisse and Mildred because they have different views of their world.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:21:38 UTC

Some allusions help the readers understand the message or point of what's trying to be said and some are added in for fun. I think the most effective allusion is Dover Beach and the least effective is like the ones where a bunch of books or people are just listed.

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:21:42 UTC

In the book, the most effective allusion is definitely Dover Beach, but I think that the Icarus allusion is pretty effective as well. The other allusions are not as useful and are just used as ties to our current world.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:21:54 UTC

Bradbury shows how Clarisse and Mildred foil each other. Clarisse questions society and is independent in her decisions. Mildred is easily manipulated and follows things and just sits around.

Aden Alexander

2024-10-17 16:21:56 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are Foil characters. This is because Clarrise is very curious about the world, and Mildred is very locked in and spends most of her day watching the parlor.

Marie Halloran

2024-10-17 16:22:17 UTC

Overall, I think the allusions were pretty powerful and was a pretty good way of letting readers see all these different ways that different pieces of literature affect us as humans, and how history affects us. The allusion to Icarus, for me, was important because it let us in on Beatty's knowledge and also who Beatty and Montag are as people. A lot of the rest of them maybe didn't work as well, especially because they have less meaning when you don't really understand them.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:22:22 UTC

The novel has remained relevant due to its relation to modern society, and the amount of good writing it contains.

Jack(51)

2024-10-17 16:22:30 UTC

The allusions give the book more literary depth and make it more interesting to read

Daniel

2024-10-17 16:22:41 UTC

I would say that F451 has remained popular because of its message overall the 1950's tone, the message has always been relatable to now because the world will forever be changing and their will always be people that speak their mind.

Yousef 51

2024-10-17 16:22:41 UTC

Clarisse opened Montag's world with nature and ideas of thing society has given up on.

Eyad

2024-10-17 16:23:04 UTC

The allusions that are the most effective are the Icarus one and Dover Beach because Montag reading Dover beach starts a conflict while the Icarus allusion shows how he used to like his job, but now he hates it.

Section 51

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:23:13 UTC

I agree with Gabriel that the book lady is a big reason why Montag became one of the book memorizers.

Oliver

2024-10-17 16:23:22 UTC

Dover Beach and several references to people outside of the book do not really affect the impact but I would say they are more of Easter eggs to find and relate to.

Madi McCulley

2024-10-17 16:23:24 UTC

The allusions in Fahrenheit 451 are of utmost importance to the plot. The whole theme revolves around literature, so the references to real books and their meanings help give meaning to the idea that literature is important to the human lifestyle and helps us become intelligent individuals. Allusions like Dover Beach and the Lilies of the Field help to establish this point, but other allusions such as Ben Franklin's relation to firemen that have been tweaked to serve the government's purpose create an opposite effect.

Aden Alexander

2024-10-17 16:23:25 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are foil characters. Clarisse is often curious about the world and tries everything new thing twice. Mildred on the other hand follows the system of society, and spends most of her day inside watching the parlor.

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:23:26 UTC

Clarisse impacts Guy Montag the most as she provides a new perspective on the world right away from the beginning of the book.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:23:28 UTC

F451 has been popular because it represents the importance of literature. In F451 it shows in characters like Mildren that life would pretty much have no meaning without books. There would be no source of knowledge.

Gavin (Sec.51)

gmarks576 — 2024-10-17 16:23:46 UTC

Bradbury had Clarisse and Mildred are some very important foil characters and he crafts it in a way that is very noticeable at how different they are compared to one another.

Marie Halloran, 51

2024-10-17 16:23:49 UTC

Clarisse was a very important catalyst. She kinda awakens Montag's emotional awareness, making him think more deeply about his life and if he actually enjoys what he does and thinks it is important. She makes him think about if the world treats everyone right or allows them to have their own individuality.

Ahnaf

2024-10-17 16:23:49 UTC

It impacts the readers because It shows a deeper meaning of the story and the events. The ones that are useful are the ones that actually mean something. The ones that aren't useful show uselessness.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:23:50 UTC

Clarisse triggers a change in Guy by making him question what he's doing with his life and whether he really enjoys what he's doing. She does this by having him try new things like tasting the rain or driving slowly on the highway. She also asks him questions like "Are you in love?" which makes him question whether he really loves Mildred.

Adaliz C.

2024-10-17 16:24:09 UTC

I feel as if the Icarus allusion and or the Dover beach ones were the most effective, having a purpose while the others are just some enjoyable refrences

Yousef 51

2024-10-17 16:24:17 UTC

I think Beatty and Montag are foil character since they have different views on books and society.

Gavin (Sec.51)

gmarks576 — 2024-10-17 16:25:32 UTC

F451 has remained popular for many generations because it is a good book and the plot of that book is slowly becoming a reality and people read it so that they can try and stop it from happening.

Adaliz

2024-10-17 16:25:40 UTC

I think Clarisse is the most effective catalyst ever since she first met Montag, causing him to question his society.

Marie Halloran, 51

2024-10-17 16:25:53 UTC

Foils can be as simple as just two characters that oppose each other in their characteristics and effects on others. Clarisse and Mildred were the most notable, and the two mirror each other in every way. They represent very different ideas to Montag, Clarisse has life and youth and Mildred is numb to the world and dies. This allowed Montag to reflect on himself and the world very clearly and see other ways to live.

Eyad

2024-10-17 16:25:58 UTC

Clarrise speeds up a change in Montag because she says to him, "Are you happy", and Montag says "Of course I am", but he thinks about it later.

Section 51

Ahnaf

2024-10-17 16:26:18 UTC

Clarisse McLellan triggers Montag because of the strange deep questions she asks him.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:26:35 UTC

Bradbury crafts Clarisse and Guy as foils to each other. He does this by making Guy like everyone else in society, while Clarisse is abnormal. By doing this he causes Guy to change when he spends time with Clarisse by seeing how Clarisse sees the world.

Adaliz R.

2024-10-17 16:26:43 UTC

Mildred is a great example of this- but she never really does much since shes always absorbed in the television or her seashell radio-

Aden Alexander

2024-10-17 16:26:58 UTC

Farenheight 451 has remained so popular for all these years because it is a great piece of work. A lot of esteemed writers have given it remarks as a classic.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:27:00 UTC

I disagree with Quinn that the allusions are easter eggs. I think they all have meaning and influence the writing and quality of the writing.

Madi McCulley

2024-10-17 16:27:21 UTC

Clarisse McLellan is a very important catalyst in Fahrenheit 451. She serves as a guide and a catalyst for Montag, and through her actions she changes him. This, of course, starts after she asks Guy Montag if he is happy. Guy has never pondered this before, so when he truly looks into it, it sends him down a rebellious path of no return.

gabriel

2024-10-17 16:27:45 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters as foils to each other by showing ignorant people like Mildred who is a foil to readers like Clarisse or Montag and also shows people like Beatty who knows about literature but doesnt do anything about it vs Montag who has just found out about reading and does something quickly.

Kristen Lee

2024-10-17 16:27:49 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers of Fahrenheit 451 is making people like us think about the outside world.

Be sure to respond: Which allusions are most and least effective?

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:27:55 UTC

The most prominent foil characters are Mildred and Clarisse. They are different because Mildred is not really aware of her surroundings and has her seashell radio in all the time, while Clarisse is very aware of the world around her and appreciates the beauty of real things, almost never being in the parlor.

Quinn51

2024-10-17 16:27:56 UTC

I agree with Noel that Clarisse and Mildred were opposites because Clarisse actually questioned things.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:27:59 UTC

I agree with Patrick in that the catalyst character, Clarisse, changed Montag's life.

Adaliz

2024-10-17 16:28:08 UTC

I think F451 has stayed relevant because of all of the allusions and I know we call all relate to Montag in a way since no matter how much people like to think- our society isn't perfect!!

Alan ( 51 )

2024-10-17 16:28:09 UTC

The dover beach poem was very impactful. Allusions in general give the story a deeper meaning.

Eliana Simoes 51

2024-10-17 16:28:24 UTC

Clarrise McLellan is a catalyst character and has a major impact on Guy. During their interactions, she questions guy which leads him to really rethink everything including why he is a fireman. As Guy thinks about everything he significantly changes himself and his views.

Jack(51)

2024-10-17 16:28:28 UTC

Clarisse gave Guy Montag new ideas about the world.

Marie Halloran, 51

2024-10-17 16:28:30 UTC

F451 recognizes a timeless problem, false knowledge. Knowledge and records will always cause problems to people because they are so easy to falsify. However, this means it is just that much more important to remember them and clearly think about them. Even now, more and more things get faked. It also recognizes human indecency. Humans naturally lean toward art and emotions and social interaction, but in this world, they shun whoever isn't the same as others. We do this now too, just the same as they did in the 50s. People bully others and exclude them just because they see the world differently.

Oliver (51)

2024-10-17 16:28:48 UTC

Clareisse McLellen has been an affect on Montag's life and sped up his thinking of changing sides.

Quinn(51)

2024-10-17 16:28:50 UTC

I agree with Mika that our society has become a lot like the society in Fahrenheit 451.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:28:53 UTC

I completely agree with Miguel and I'd like to add on that Mildred doesn't make decisions for herself.

gabriel

2024-10-17 16:28:55 UTC

F451 has remained popular for a long time because it takes place in the future, has lots of allusions to already famous poem/poets and has a theme not subjective to its time aka technology, censorship, and injustice.

Yousef 51

2024-10-17 16:28:57 UTC

I agree with Gavin, also I believe that it is because this book has something no one has ever thought of before, a world without books.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:30:01 UTC

F451 has remained popular because it speculates about the future and what we could do. Because it is based on the future, it never really becomes old because we can always see the possibility of our society becoming like that.

Alan ( 51 )

2024-10-17 16:30:07 UTC

Clarisse speeds up the change in Montag by kind of questioning life in general which then makes Montag question his own life.

ADAM

2024-10-17 16:30:24 UTC

the Dover beach poem is a good allusion that makes sense.And the least are the reference that the the story.

Ahnaf

2024-10-17 16:30:34 UTC

Mildred is a bit lost in the world and drawn into it while Clarisse is more drawn out of the world and sees through things better.

Micah

2024-10-17 16:30:36 UTC

I think that Miguel's answer was beautifully written and that we do reflect and compare the dystopian society of F451 to our current society.

Marie Halloran (responding to Ada), 51

2024-10-17 16:30:36 UTC

I definitely agree that the allusions where they just list people or works of literature are not so useful. Allusions don't work unless people understand what they are actually referring to.

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:30:51 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because the real world events are almost caught up with the novel, although books are still relevant and it could be our fears of losing that.

Abdullah

2024-10-17 16:31:02 UTC

I'd say Clarise or Mildred because they're both somewhat the opposites of each other. We see that Mildred is lost and just going with what everyone is saying, but Clarise is free from the world and she really has a big impact on Guy Montag because of that.

Jack(51)

2024-10-17 16:31:19 UTC

I think that clarisse and Mildred are foil characters

gabriel response

2024-10-17 16:31:26 UTC

I agree with Aden that allusions change the tone because an allusion to serious poems or political poets can change an environment to serious

Adam

2024-10-17 16:32:04 UTC

When clearrese asked montag if hes hay he then started questioning himself if hes actually happyy with the life hes living

Eliana Simoes 51

2024-10-17 16:32:09 UTC

Some of the main foil characters are Clarrisse and Mildred. They are foil characters to eachother because Clarisse cares deeply about things and is really interested in other people. On the other hand, Mildred is ignorant and selfish and could care less about other people.

gabriel response

2024-10-17 16:32:14 UTC

I agree with Micah because I said something similar about Clarisse's question specifically.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:32:27 UTC

I agree with Madi on the different ways allusions affect the meaning of F451. When she talked about the allusion to Ben Franklin having the opposite effect, I thought that was a super good idea.

Eyad

2024-10-17 16:32:29 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are foils because Mildred is sitting on the couch watching TV with her shell earbuds while Clarrise is happy and wandering outside

Section 51

Abdullah

2024-10-17 16:32:58 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of F451 because they help readers go into more depth about that specific thing. And helps them understand things differently.

adam

2024-10-17 16:33:09 UTC

he uses clarrise and Beatty, beatty didnt enjoy life and she made herself seem hay while clarrise was being herself.

gabriel response

2024-10-17 16:33:13 UTC

I agree with Ada that the society and the main characters in the book are also foil characters.

Marie Halloran (responding to Madi), 51

2024-10-17 16:33:29 UTC

I agree with a lot of this and I'd like to add only. I think she also makes him realize not only that he is unhappy, but that other people are living as ghosts of themselves. He goes home and I believe that he is realizing that the way that Mildred lives is not okay and that their world affects him, but also everyone else even if they don't know it.

Madi McCulley

2024-10-17 16:33:30 UTC

There are many different foil characters used to highlight other characters' virtues and compare them with their issues. For example, the sheep-like, dull behaviour and depressing, unnatural looks of Mildred help to highlight clarisse's intelligence, individualism and natural looks. Another example being Beatty's inclination to follow government rule and destroy, and even a possible self hatred for previously reading books and how that helps to highlight Montag's hesitation to create destruction and rob people of their literary resources.

Alan ( 51 )

2024-10-17 16:33:44 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred because they are different from each other. Clarrise questions life while Mildred only cares about her family.

gabriel response

2024-10-17 16:33:53 UTC

I agree with Daniel because I said something similar about the tone and message being broad

Eyad

2024-10-17 16:34:01 UTC

It is still popular because it teaches many themes that relate with readers and gives us a point of View of a man who wants to get away from society.

Section 51

Adam

2024-10-17 16:34:17 UTC

It has remained popular due to it being relative to todays society

Aden Alexander (51)

2024-10-17 16:34:25 UTC

Mildred and Clarrise are foil characters. Mildred follows the system of the society and is often cooped up near the TV parlor. However, Clarrise is very outdoorsy and she likes to try every new thing twice.

Eliana Simoes 51

2024-10-17 16:34:32 UTC

Farenheit 451 has remained such a popular book for so long because although it is written in a completely different time period, it can still relate to our world today in many ways.

Jack(51)

2024-10-17 16:34:40 UTC

F451 remained popular through generations because it is good writing and people want to read about this dystopian style life.

Alan ( 51 )

2024-10-17 16:35:17 UTC

The book has remained popular because it's like our world right now.

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:35:22 UTC

To respond to Wesley, I think that this is a very good metaphor to use, especially to show how Mildred is not only far gone, but so are most of the other members of the society, except Clarisse.

Ahnaf

2024-10-17 16:35:27 UTC

It was a big hit since it related to the world before and was more understanding and had deeper meanings than most novels during the time. It related to the dystopian world.

ADam

2024-10-17 16:35:37 UTC

I agree with Michael that the book is very unique and impacts people with its words and characters.

Miles

2024-10-17 16:35:41 UTC

The allusions impact the readers of Fahrenheit 451 because it gives a reason to read. Not only are you reading a book but you are getting references to others.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:35:46 UTC

I agree with Oscar that Clarisse impacts Guy the most because without Clarisse, Guy would've never started to question his society and the whole book wouldn't have happened.

Marie (responding to Eliana), 51

2024-10-17 16:36:05 UTC

I agree about Clarisse and Mildred, but I think their most important difference is that Clarisse, to Montag, represents life and youth (she smells of fruit and shines like the moon), but Mildred represents death and numbness to the world (she only wants to talk to the "family" and quite literally dies).

Aden Response to Quinn.

2024-10-17 16:36:11 UTC

I agree with this estate philosiphy.

Kristen

2024-10-17 16:36:28 UTC

Bradbury crafts Guy Montag and Clarisse as foils by making Guy a normal person like everyone else and makes Clarisse abnormal.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:36:45 UTC

I heavily agree with Ben with the Icarus allusion

Jack(51)

2024-10-17 16:37:00 UTC

I agree with yousef and would like to add on that people don't want to have a world without books

Oliver (51)

2024-10-17 16:37:06 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are the foil characters that are most popular, and they both contrast. Clarisse is curious and calm, and Mildred has no thoughts or emotions.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:37:09 UTC

I agree with Noah's perspective on a catalyst character

Alan ( 51 )

2024-10-17 16:37:21 UTC

I agree with Eliana

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:37:31 UTC

I agree with Patrick when it comes to crafting foil characters

Oscar van Leeuwen (51)

2024-10-17 16:37:41 UTC

To respond to Mika, I agree because I think that we have caught up with the times that the novel was written about and that is important because we can see how these things are real today.

Abdullah

2024-10-17 16:37:41 UTC

I think a lot of people already said this but it's remained popular because of what it's about. The things it talks about/how society runs/works, and this all correlates to things today so it may seem relatable.

Ada 51

2024-10-17 16:37:48 UTC

To add on to Kristen, Bradbury does this by having Clarisse introduce new things to Guy that he's never thought of. And by doing this he starts forming new ideas about what the world is like outside of the normal which starts pushing him to do things he wouldn't have done before he met Clarisse.

Alan

2024-10-17 16:37:50 UTC

I agree with Ryan's idea.

Miles

2024-10-17 16:37:57 UTC

I agree with Patrick and Micah because when Clarisse asked if Montag was really happy it made him question himself and wonder if he was really happy.

Jaryn

2024-10-17 16:37:57 UTC

I agree with derrick and miguel about F. 451's relevance

Marie (responding to Oscar), 51

2024-10-17 16:38:05 UTC

I think that what he said is true. I also believe that losing books and things is already happening. Books are banned all over the United States and the circulation of fake news happens often and everyone is susceptible to it.

Zoe

2024-10-17 16:38:32 UTC

It helps the reader understand and see more of a different meaning in the context. (had no more time)

Abdullah

2024-10-17 16:38:41 UTC

Clarise is a big foil character because she really gives Guy a new perspective in life and makes him think wether he was happy or not.

Oliver (51)

2024-10-17 16:38:56 UTC

F451 is a reality check, and it helps us realize that this actually happened, and it was not good.

Madi McCulley

2024-10-17 16:39:32 UTC

The reason why Fahrenheit 451 has remained so popular is because of its relative topic of government censorship and 'harmony' through sameness. Since the dawn of time, humans who come into power feel the need to make sure they stay in that position. They grow paranoid of anyone smart enough to think for themselves and challenge authority. These people in power may try to take away the rights of those who can do so, and censor, spread propaganda, and dumb civilians down so they can remain in power with no challengers. This has unfortunately, remained a constant throughout human history.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:04:52 UTC

The most effect allusion in my opinion were the ones that made me feel more intertwined within the book. For example when Beatty was saying how Montag flew to close to the sun and burnt his "damn wings he wonders why".

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:05:03 UTC

Some allusions, like the allusion to the myth of Icarus reveal key parts of the plot and story, but others like the allusion to the various authors, just serve as references for people who know certain authors.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:06:11 UTC

I agree with Adam that the dover beach poem is a good allusion and that it adds to the story.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:06:17 UTC

Clarrise McClellan whose questions incites thinking upon others caused the change in Guy to think about the ways people in society do things.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:06:55 UTC

Clarisse McLellan speeds up the change in Guy, by provoking him to think about his life and the way that he lives.

Lucas R

2024-10-17 17:07:14 UTC

Allusions are a major part of Fahrenheit 451's story they help convene secret meanings to attentive readers. The best references tend to be those from books (ex. Dover Beach, and Icarus). These help add great parts to the story as they often teach lessons and give insight to the moral of the story. I think that allusions to historic figures is something Bradbury did not do as well as the rest of his novel, after all we already know they are teaching revisionist history is it really necessary to talk about it more.

Violet sec. 71

2024-10-17 17:07:17 UTC

One of the most important allusions in Fahrenheit 451 was the Icarus allusion from Captain Beatty. Some that were less effective were the small references to famous writers that a lot of people didn't get as they were reading the story.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:07:28 UTC

Bradbury crafts the foil characters to help point out clearer to the reader what is going on with the story and the characters for the reader's benefit.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:07:34 UTC

I agree with Nicholas that Clarisse was the person who pushed Montag to begin his journey collecting books.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:07:50 UTC

The impact that allusions like alluding to Icarus, stood out because of how it referenced to the story, and the meaning that was behind it. I also feel like some of the more open and actively shown allusions are less effective than those that are more hidden, needing thinking behind them.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:08:49 UTC

Bradbury crafts Mildred and Guy as foils to each other. Mildred is completely complacent in her current place in society, and Guy is questioning everything about his life.

Violet sec. 71

2024-10-17 17:09:04 UTC

Clarisse McLellan was one of the most obvious catalyst characters. She was the person that made Montag start think about the world and how firemen used to stop fires instead of create them.

Jaylen(response)

2024-10-17 17:09:10 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers of Fahrenheit 451 makes it so readers can connect the story with others to get a better understanding of the book. Popular allusions are the most effective as many people would know about them and the least effective would be ones with no specific value to the story and ones that would be unpopular.

Oscar Navarro

onavarro11 — 2024-10-17 17:09:13 UTC

The Dover Beach poem was for me the best allusion that is in the story.

Prob cuz im doing that poem for coffee clasico.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:09:40 UTC

F451 has remained popular for generations for its clever usage of many literary mechanics, ideas and thoughts.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:09:40 UTC

Clarisse McClellan triggered a change in Guy through questioning the purpose of life, why the firemen do what they do, which changed the way he thought about things.

Lucas R

2024-10-17 17:09:44 UTC

Faber is an important catalyst. Whilst Clarissa helps guy question his society Faber is in the end the one who helps guy figure out what is wrong with his society and what he should do to fix it.

Ameirah Sec:71

2024-10-17 17:09:51 UTC

Bradbury used many allusions such as Dover Beach and Edna Saint Vincent Millay. I however believe that He used too many allusions. The absurd amount of allusions in the book took away from the tone and meaning of the overall story if I had to choose though the Icaurus allusion was by for the best in the book.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:10:13 UTC

I agree with Patrick and Noah, that Mildred is not anything special and just accepts society the way it is.

Oscar Navarro

onavarro11 — 2024-10-17 17:10:33 UTC

Most likely in my opinion McLellan, because she questions the morals and made Montag a better main character.

Jaylen(adding on to Matthew So)

2024-10-17 17:10:38 UTC

I agree that the allusion to Icarus stood out as many people that are into myths would have a good understanding to what Beatty was saying.

Violet sec. 71

2024-10-17 17:11:04 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are two foil characters because Mildred is very into technology and represents selfishness and mindlessness. Clarisse however loves nature and is very thoughtful about others and the world around her.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:11:15 UTC

He crafted the foil characters to further explain the context and ideas behind the book he wrote and to give many perspectives on problems within the story.

Ameirah

2024-10-17 17:12:03 UTC

The woman willing to die for her books helped Guy realize that books can change your life and are really important.

Jayden

2024-10-17 17:12:10 UTC

Clarisse was in my opinion the biggest catalyst character because if it weren't for her Guy montag would've never questioned his role as a firefighter so greatly.

Jaylen Wu (response)

2024-10-17 17:12:20 UTC

Clarisse McLellan sped up a change in Guy as she asked questions which made Guy question his morals which made him change in the story.

Harun

2024-10-17 17:12:23 UTC

mildred and clarisse are foil characters since Mildred is a character who doesn't care and addicted to TV while clarisse is a person who is curious about the world and questioned her self

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:12:30 UTC

Clarisse McClellan whose questions and ideals made Montag question the way his society works.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:12:32 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred help to show the different aspects of the world that they live in. Clarisse is more open minded, showing Montag how things really are, seeing through everything, while Mildred is stuck in a state where she doesn't think about anything, giving into the dystopian world that they live in.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:12:36 UTC

F451 has remained a popular novel because many of its themes and ideas still remain relevant today. People become completely immersed in screens and "seashells" today.

Lucas R

2024-10-17 17:13:06 UTC

Bradburry often creates characters who are direct opposites to the ideals he makes for Montag, Mildred is a person who denies the world around her she often is pretending to mis-understand the events of the world. This is in direct opposition to what Montag figures out after meeting Clarisse (Try to question everything you don't understand)

Oscar Navarro

onavarro11 — 2024-10-17 17:13:08 UTC

Most likely Mildred because she is one who stock with her seashell radio and created no self reflection.

Camille :/

2024-10-17 17:13:52 UTC

In Fahrenheit 451, the allusions help the book have a feel of 'real life', so you can read a paragraph and say "I know that reference" and you can connect it to a meaning the allusions are portraying. Personally I liked the allusion that Beatty made about Icarus flying too close to the sun but I feel like the rest didn't provide that much to the story.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:13:58 UTC

I think that it has remained a more popular book over generations because of how it relates to how things are now. How people are distracted and taken over by social media, always stuck on their phones. Rather than seeing things as they are, and being more open minded about things.

Jovan

2024-10-17 17:14:00 UTC

The allusion to Icarus was the most notable one for me, because it paints a certain picture about Montag that I understand more than the other allusions. The least effective allusion for me was when they alluded to Ben Franklin because I didn't really understand why they did that.

Catherine Huang (71)

2024-10-17 17:14:11 UTC

The impact on allusions in Fahrenheit 451 is that it helps readers make connections to other things that relate to the story and it gives a deeper meaning to people who understand those allusions.

Ameirah

2024-10-17 17:14:13 UTC

Clarisse McLellan and Mildred Montag were foils. Clarisse is a free-spirited person who likes books, unlike Mildred who freaks out when Guy reads her a book.

Wyatt 71

2024-10-17 17:14:29 UTC

I agree with Oscar that we are kind of in the era that the book is set in, and thus many of its ideas are useful to us today.

Violet sec. 71

2024-10-17 17:14:36 UTC

I think Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because it is a very real issue that is close to today's world. People have stopped reading as much and are relying more and more on technology. It is scary how real this book is for being written in the 1950's. I think people realize that point and that is why it is still so popular.

Crisly

csotobaez — 2024-10-17 17:14:36 UTC

Clarisse was a catalyst character because she served as the enlightenment for Montag to break from the ignorant and blissful pattern that he always followed without even questioning it, she was the one who made Montag begin to wonder why things were the way they were, and how it was harmful to their society.

Jaylen (responding to Ben)

2024-10-17 17:14:48 UTC

I agree on how the lady in the fire was one of the first to make Montag question himself on his morals as he was thinking about her a lot throughout the book and how the society became a dystopia.

Tien Tran 71 The allusions are most effective is the dover beach because it really give like a nice description and the leasteffective tis the Benjamin Franklin because there's no point and it doesn't really have an impact on what's going on in the book.

2024-10-17 17:15:07 UTC

Oscar Navarro

onavarro11 — 2024-10-17 17:15:18 UTC

F451 is a popular book even now because it is similar to the word we live now on mostly for me how America is really similar in ways that F451 did thing.

Jayden

2024-10-17 17:15:37 UTC

Bradbury crafts clarisse and Mildred as foil characters to each other because they were the two closest people to montag basically and Mildred was the corrupt side while clarisse brought light into his life

Ivan He

2024-10-17 17:15:43 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of Fahrenheit 451 because it makes it so that you have a better understanding of the book. If you're not in on most of the allusions, you won't understand what the author is talking about. The most effective allusions would be the most well known ones, the allusions from stories that most people know already.

Camille :/

2024-10-17 17:16:17 UTC

One Catalyst character that want really mentioned was Mildred. Mildred helped show Montag the affect of society's need for entertainment and how he needed to show other people the life changing factor of books.

Jovan (71)

2024-10-17 17:16:19 UTC

Clarrise McLellan was definitely the most notable catalyst character, as she made Montag think deeper than just the surface of his life, but into what he really feels inside.

Elegan

2024-10-17 17:16:30 UTC

The allusions add to the idea of shared knowledge, if the reader understands the allusion it is what the characters in the books want for everyone to be educated and read books. The most effective allusions are the ones like the Icarus allusion which tells us more about the characters in multiple ways. Allusions that aren't as powerful I feel is when the allusions are a little more subtle and you can barely tell they are there specifically when they name a bunch of authors I don't know. It is less impactful because I'm not in on the allusions but I bet they would have been much more effective if I did know about them.

Lucas R

2024-10-17 17:16:40 UTC

I think it has remained popular because these are issues that can never be truly erased from our society. As we become more and more advanced we distance ourselves from others' ideas, and as people seek power they change history to benefit themselves.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:16:40 UTC

I agree with Wyatt that the Myth of Icarus revealed more key parts of the story, and that it can help add to what Beatty was saying. While some of the other allusions are just serving as references to authors.

Violet sec. 71

2024-10-17 17:16:41 UTC

I agree with Wyatt about his points about the cellphones and "seashells" (earbuds).

TIEN TRAN 71 Clarisse triggers or speeds up a change in Guy Montag because she makes Guy Montag rethink his decisions of keeping his job or doing something as a firemen.

2024-10-17 17:16:44 UTC

Ameirah

2024-10-17 17:16:46 UTC

I believe Fahrenheit 451 has stayed so popular because this future dystopian society that Montag lives in is an entirely possible scenario that could happen to any society. It also shows people facing the challenges of oppression.

Jayden

2024-10-17 17:17:22 UTC

F451 has been popular for so long because it has related to us over many years and is a great way to show how if we let certain things get out of hand our society will be doomed

Kaiya

2024-10-17 17:17:29 UTC

I think that a really effective allusion was the Icarus allusion, because not only did it explain the situation using the metaphor, but it also gave us a little more insight into the character Beatty by displaying his extensive knowledge and familiarity with this old story.

Jaylen(responding)

2024-10-17 17:17:45 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters as foil characters to each other as he shows us the sides of Mildred and Clarisse in the dystopia. Mildred was already believing in the dystopia she is in but Clarisse shows that she is not fooled by the dystopian world.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:17:48 UTC

The most effective allusions were the one between Montag and Beatty and the one between Montag,Faber, and Mildred. The one between Montag and between was effective because Montag flying too close to the sun(the truth) and burning his wings(losing his home) is great for storytelling and reading purposes. The allusion to Dover Beach was effective because it brought into light how people really felt about certain things causing an argument within Faber's house with Montag. The least effective(or less strong) allusions were the ones that talked about the minor problems in the story.

Jennifer <3

2024-10-17 17:17:50 UTC

Allusions are impactful in F451 because if you don't know any of them, you won't get the book as much as someone who knows and can recognize most of them. The allusion most effective in my opinion would be the poems that Montag recites and Icarus. The least effective would probably just be the small mentions of historical authors and writers like Benjamin Franklin and Plato. They could've been left out of the book, and we wouldn't notice.

Katelynn

UnicornKitty486 — 2024-10-17 17:18:01 UTC

Faber tells Montag of a time where books were prevalent before they were burned and everyone switched to watching TV and listening on the radio. He then tells him that the current status quo can be broken, making Montag realize that he needs to start reading the books he burns in order to understand, and eventually, change society.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:18:09 UTC

Replying to Jovan, I agree with how Clarisse is the most notable catalyst character because of how much of a change she triggered in Montag.

Elegan

2024-10-17 17:18:35 UTC

In the book one catylist character is Faber. Meeting Faber leads Guy down the path of taking action. Before Guy goes to see Faber, he doesn't know what to do, but Faber gives him a plan to make changes.

Catherine Huang (71)

2024-10-17 17:18:36 UTC

I think Clarisse McLellen is an important catalyst character because she makes Guy question firefighters (why they burn books) and she helped him realize that he wasn't happy with the way his life was.

Violet (responding to Abby)

2024-10-17 17:18:38 UTC

I totally agree with everything that you said. I also think that the dover beach and Icarus allusions were the most effective.

Najeeb>

2024-10-17 17:18:48 UTC

Icarus allusion was the most effective, even if you didn't understand it you could just search up "Icarus and Daedalus" and you would remember what they are talking about. Meanwhile the other references were incomprehensible, like "Saying, do you remember Sophocles?" referencing Antigone.

Response to Ben (Lucas R)

2024-10-17 17:18:49 UTC

Even though I agree with the fact that Icarus and Dover Beach are power fall allusions I feel that they are not the only ones. Even if others seem less relevant they still remain an insight to the theme and morals of the story.

Jaylen(responding to Miguel)

2024-10-17 17:19:00 UTC

I agree with this as Mildred and Clarisse both are a foil character to each other.

Tien Tran 71 Clarisse and Mildred are foil characters they are like two different people and think two different things. In the time when Clarisse likes society and also Mildred doesn't really care.

2024-10-17 17:19:02 UTC

Ivan He

2024-10-17 17:19:09 UTC

A catalyst character that really triggers a change in Guy was Clarisse. She made Guy realize that he wasn't happy, also making him question his life.

Camille :/

2024-10-17 17:19:16 UTC

One foil for Montag is Clarisse. At first Montag did not see the appeal of questioning the world around him because his society has never encouraged him to think to improve the rules.

Kasey (71)

2024-10-17 17:19:35 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of Fahrenheit 451 because it gives a deeper meaning to the book. It explains a lot of things and gives context.

Alford Shi (71)

2024-10-17 17:19:38 UTC

I think Clarisse McLellan was the catalyst character because she made Montag question the purpose of their life and why they were starting fires instead of ending them.

Jovan (71)

2024-10-17 17:19:39 UTC

Mildred and Beatty shine light on certain characteristics of Montag. They highlight the setting also by making it a point to be like how everyone else is.

Jayden

2024-10-17 17:19:57 UTC

I personally think the phoenix has the greatest effect because it would show us how greatly montag changed and and the lest effective would be the famous people allusions

Tien Tran 71 F 451 remained popular because it has like an impact on today's world and we today are able to see what people say when F 451 was created.

2024-10-17 17:19:59 UTC

Kaiya

2024-10-17 17:20:08 UTC

I think that Clarisse McClellan was the main catalyst for Guy's change, because a lot of the rebellious thoughts and actions that he made were caused by Clarisse's words.

Violet (responding to McKenna)

2024-10-17 17:20:11 UTC

I agree with McKenna about how Clarisse was a catalyst character.

Response to Ben (Najeeb)

2024-10-17 17:20:23 UTC

I agree with you, those allusions effectively reach the reader.

Matthew Sa

2024-10-17 17:20:26 UTC

i believe clarisse is the charecter that triggers change in guy because of her questioning the world around her and her morals make guy question his.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:20:33 UTC

I agree with Wyatt that F451 is popular because of its themes and ideas still being relevant. Those people being immersed in screens and seashells is true today, meaning the book has proved a point.

Jennifer :)

2024-10-17 17:20:45 UTC

The most prominent catalyst in F451 would be Clarisse McLellan because she made Montag realize how he's unhappy, and how society brainwashed him.

Elegan

2024-10-17 17:21:00 UTC

I think Mildred could be a foil to not only Clarrise but also Guy. When Guy is faced with the knowledge of their society he is horrified and wants to change things. However, Mildred learns the same things and reads the same book but she chooses to not listen.

Kasey (71)

2024-10-17 17:21:11 UTC

Clarise McCellan catalyzed Montag to collect books and made him question.

Jovan (71)

2024-10-17 17:21:18 UTC

F451 has stayed around is a literary masterpiece for people who want a quick read. The book has a great story line, it include allusions, and many other things. It is also a great book to look back on and see how well Ray Bradbury structured this book.

Tien Tran 71 I agree to Jovan because Ben Franklin was kind of useless and Icarus has like imagery of what it is.

2024-10-17 17:21:18 UTC

Violet (responding to Noah and Patrick)

2024-10-17 17:21:37 UTC

I also agree with Noah because Mildred was the biggest example of a foil character.

Kevin Seide

2024-10-17 17:21:49 UTC

I feel like the Icarus and deadalus allusion was very effective for me, but I also think that the william shakeshpere was the least effective.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:21:49 UTC

The impact on allusions in Fahrenheit 451 is that it helps readers understand the book more. The allusion that had the most impact is Dover Beach.

Matthew Sa

2024-10-17 17:21:59 UTC

Allusions impact the readers of Farenheit 451 by helping us understand the story more in depth for example the Icarus allusion that helped the reader further understand the book.

Najeeb

2024-10-17 17:22:05 UTC

The woman who burnt herself along with the books sped up Guy Montags transition, as he started questioning "What is in these books that might possibly make you stay and burn?" and "Why did we burn her without remorse?".

Tien Tran 71 I agree with Ivan because Clarisse made him rethink his life decisions of being who he is.

2024-10-17 17:22:05 UTC

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:22:06 UTC

I agree with Patrick because unlike every other foil characters Mildred is the only one that seems to rely on her "seashell radio" for daily life unlike the rest of the foil characters.

Crisly

csotobaez — 2024-10-17 17:22:10 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers of F451 was effective when Bradbury used the poem "Dover Beach" to connect to the idea that their society was so unused to actually feeling much emotion at all that when they were faced with something that was meaningful they could barely grasp why or what it made them feel.

Alford Shi (71)

2024-10-17 17:22:13 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers make it so that the book is more interesting. I think that the most effective allusion in Fahrenheit 451 is Dover Beach.

Catherine Huang (71)

2024-10-17 17:22:16 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters, like Clarisse and Mildred, as foil characters. Clarisse likes spending time with nature while everyone else and Mildred spend their days watching TV or driving. This helps Clarisse stand out because she's different from the rest of the people.

Camille :/

2024-10-17 17:22:49 UTC

Unlike other novels written around the same time as F451, F451 looks into the far future so people of many generations can look ahead just like people from like, eighty years ago.

Another reason it is such a popular novel is that it makes us fear the future. Unlike other sci-fi novels people cannot really relate to the future, but in F451 we can see our society slowly inching toward a univers like Montag's.

Ivan He

2024-10-17 17:23:04 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters as foils to each other, like Mildred and Clarisse. Mildred is glued to the TV, always watching mindless entertainment. Clarisse is different, always thinking. She is clearly different from most of the other characters in Guy's world who are violent or don't care about books.

Response to Noah (Najeeb)

2024-10-17 17:23:04 UTC

I agree. Clarisse McLellan is one of the most influential catalysts, who did, in fact, speed up Guy Montags transition.

Jennifer :O

2024-10-17 17:23:04 UTC

Beatty could be described as a foil character because he contrasts his ideas with Montag's. Beatty follows the crowd while Montag tries to stray away.

Kaiya

2024-10-17 17:23:07 UTC

Bradbury uses Clarisse as a foil character to really display the differences between her and Mildred. Clarisse's curiosity and insight into the world deeply contrasts Mildred's indifference, which Bradbury most likely wanted to highlight.

Matthew Sa

2024-10-17 17:23:07 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are THE foil charecters of the book because they contrast eachothers personality.

Kasey (71)

2024-10-17 17:23:12 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred are used as foil characters so Montag can change.

Tien Tran 71 I agree with Violet because Mildred and Clarisse are like two different human beings.

2024-10-17 17:23:18 UTC

Katelynn

UnicornKitty486 — 2024-10-17 17:23:20 UTC

The allusions that are most effective are ones that are pretty well known and hit home the irony of the situation. Confucius, for example, is a philosopher who really thought about society and how someone can succeed in one. His quotes were mostly about how allowing someone to think things through and actually try will lead to success, which is not what happens in Montag's society.

Jayden

2024-10-17 17:23:31 UTC

I think she did but clarisse further more improved his thinking on books

Mussa

2024-10-17 17:23:32 UTC

I agree to ben because Iracus allusion was way better comparing to ben franklin even though i was a little bit confused

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:23:49 UTC

Clareisse was the specific catalyst character that speeds up and changes Guy because she made him think about his life.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:23:57 UTC

I agree with Aden that Mildred and Clarisse are shown as two foil characters in the book, being basically complete opposites.

Crisly

csotobaez — 2024-10-17 17:24:00 UTC

Mildred is one example of a foil character, she was the opposite of what Clarisse and later Montag were. Mildred was a character who chose to remain ignorant, she didn't want things to change, didn't really want to think that there was anything wrong with their society and how she lived.

Iziya 71

2024-10-17 17:24:03 UTC

I agree with Patrick Fahrenheit 451 is an amazing book and it has its importance like talking about how and what people went through and why.

Devin

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:24:09 UTC

I agree with Noah that Clarisse is the catalyst character that triggers the change for Montag to question the acts and daily lives of society because of her.

Response to Ryan (Lucas R)

2024-10-17 17:24:25 UTC

Even though the lady in the fire changed Montag. I'm not sure she is a major change after all sure she did make him ask questions but she was not necessary. Clarisse had always asked Montage these questions, and slowly montage was following them to . After all he stole the books before he realized that the woman would die.

Matthew SA

2024-10-17 17:24:27 UTC

Farenheit 451 has remained popular for so long because even afternall this time it is still relatable in the present world and even for decades it will still be relatable.

Jaylen(responding)

2024-10-17 17:24:29 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular for generations as it relates to now as it shows how governments would try to contain and control its people in which the book showed us a lot about it( hunting Montag, burning books, ect).

Camille :/

2024-10-17 17:24:36 UTC

I agree with Ben because he brings up the point that Dover Beach really brang emotion to people who read it.

Matthew So 71

2024-10-17 17:24:37 UTC

I agree with Patrick on that the book remains popular because of how much it relates to the modern world.

Najeeb

2024-10-17 17:24:42 UTC

The most notable foil character is Mildred [against Guy]. She even turns on him after a meet-up-gone-wrong when Montag read Dover Beach.

Kevin Seide

2024-10-17 17:24:45 UTC

I agree with Ivan that clarisse triggered change in guy montag becasue she was the one who made guy really question what he was doing and how he really felt.

Elegan

2024-10-17 17:24:47 UTC

One reason F451 is still so popular is because people are fascinated by the fact that the author is pretty spot on with a lot of his predictions in the future. The seashells are similar to air pods, people's attention spans are getting shorter and so on. I think because of this it makes people curious about the book and people read it and learn about the themes of censorship and the loss of knowledge.

Alford Shi (71)

2024-10-17 17:24:52 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific characters like Mildred and Clarisse because Mildred is always glued to the TV while Clarisse is always questioning things and is curious. He uses them two show the differences.

Kasey (71)

2024-10-17 17:25:07 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because of how interesting the book is. Ray Bradbury used allusions too in order to keep the book interesting.

Jennifer :P

2024-10-17 17:25:09 UTC

F451 has remained popular throughout generations because there are still many symbols and ideas that still resonate with us today. It's a very flexible book.

Tien Tran 71 I agree with Camille because it has more of an impact today because of what was in the past.

2024-10-17 17:25:10 UTC

Ivan He

2024-10-17 17:25:26 UTC

The book Fahrenheit 451 is still popular over the years because it still relates to us today. There are many people who are still glued to their phones or spend all their time digitally.

Camille 71 :/

2024-10-17 17:25:41 UTC

I agree with Oscar because he says that McLellan challenged Montag to think about the faults in his society

Jaylen (responding to Jovan)

2024-10-17 17:25:42 UTC

I agree as the book is a quick read and has a great storyline which can relate to the world in this time period.

Catherine Huang (71)

2024-10-17 17:25:45 UTC

I think it has remained popular because it shows what Bradbury thought would happen in the future and how he thought the people and government would act.

Response to Rayen (Najeeb)

2024-10-17 17:25:46 UTC

I think you are wrong. This is because Mildred is the one who forced Montag out of the city, saving him and making him learn his part of the Bible.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:25:50 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse was biggest foil characters in the book.

Ameirah(responding to Sashia)

2024-10-17 17:26:02 UTC

I agree with you Clarisse did help speed up the process with her questions, but it was the lady willing to die with her books that signaled the change in Guy. As right after he saw that he decided to try and read a book to Mildred. The lady in the fire showed Montag that there was more to books than the government's propaganda.

Kaiya

2024-10-17 17:26:06 UTC

I think that this novel has remained popular due to the relevance of the book in today's society, and people may find it interesting to read the book and watch how Bradbury's predictions unfold around us.

mussa

2024-10-17 17:26:23 UTC

I would say carisse because she actullay the one or the reason I gues montage changed and deeply thought of what he was doing and started his journey in undetrading the deeper meaning of books.

Devin (sec.71)

dmyers6_1 — 2024-10-17 17:26:24 UTC

I agree with Ada that some allusions are added for fun and some are for understanding the message trying to be said. For example a message to prove a point is the Daedalus and Icarus along with the Dover Beach one.

Iziya 71

2024-10-17 17:26:27 UTC

I would say that there is many characters that speed up a change in guy but I think the most affecting one was Clarisse because she showed him change in society and why we shouldn't burn books

Najeeb

2024-10-17 17:26:41 UTC

F451 has remained popular throughout the decades because of his theme, a dystopian future, and how we are coming near it every day. Its speculative fiction attracts many readers, like me.

Katelynn

UnicornKitty486 — 2024-10-17 17:26:45 UTC

Besides the all-famous Clarisse McClellan vs. Montag, there's Ms. Bowles and Mildred. Ms. Bowles actually has children, but plop them into schools and force them to watch stuff so she doesn't have to do anything. Mildred, although pretty similar to her, doesn't have children and so doesn't inflict the pain and depression on the next generation because they don't have the sense of community and love that they need and deserve.

Jennifer (replying to ethan)

2024-10-17 17:26:47 UTC

I agree when Ethan said allusions gave the text a deeper meaning.

Camille 71 :/

2024-10-17 17:26:49 UTC

I agree with Declan because he brings the point that Montag becomes the opposite of Mildred

Response to Ben (Lucas R)

2024-10-17 17:26:51 UTC

I agree with this idea as Clarrise and Mildred are undoubtedly the largest foils of this story.

Response to Patrick (Najeeb)

2024-10-17 17:27:03 UTC

I agree with you. It has a scary relation.

Alford Shi(71)

2024-10-17 17:27:06 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular for the generations because the book is interesting and because of the allusions.

Kevin Seide

2024-10-17 17:27:17 UTC

Mildred and clarisse are charcters who foil each other becasue mildred stays home and watches tv, but clarrise is the opposite since she goes outside and questions everything around her

mussa

2024-10-17 17:27:20 UTC

I would say clarisse is the best foil character as she changed montag

Ahmir

2024-10-17 17:27:25 UTC

Clarisee is a big catalyst character in Fahrenheit 451, because she ask Guy Montag about his own thoughts on his current life, and if hes happy with it.

Response to Tao

2024-10-17 17:27:50 UTC

I'm not sure this is the main reason why it has remained famous I think it's due to the issues it discuss'.

Crisly

csotobaez — 2024-10-17 17:27:56 UTC

I believe that Fahrenheit 451 has remained a popular novel because it's a novel that really shows similarities to our modern world.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:29:55 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has been popular for a very long time because it relates to the real world today.

mussa

2024-10-17 17:30:20 UTC

I would say it's still relevant today

jennifer (replying to Noah)

2024-10-17 17:31:11 UTC

I agree with Noah because I said the same thing! Clarisse questioned the morals of the society, so Montag did too.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:31:20 UTC

I agree with Alford about Dover Beach being the most effective allusion in the book.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:32:16 UTC

I agree with kaiya about Clarisse being the main catalyst for Guy in the book.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:32:57 UTC

I agree with Javi about Mildred and Clarisse being the foil character in the book.

William (71)

2024-10-17 17:33:34 UTC

I agree with miguel about the book reflecting on the world today.

Jennifer (replying to Patrick)

2024-10-17 17:35:17 UTC

I agree with Patrick because Mildred doesn't self-reflect at all, making her very empty and conformist. Unlike Montag, he started self-reflecting and became the opposite of her.

Eliana Simoes 51

2024-10-17 17:37:26 UTC

Allusions in Farenheit 451 help readers have a better understanding of things and make connections to and recognize things. One of the most important allusions was Dover Beach because it had a very big impact on Mildred's friends, a not so effective allusion was the reference to many historical writers and authors.

Jennifer (replying to Ben)

2024-10-17 17:37:29 UTC

I agree with Ben. He made a very true and very thoughtful response.

Kaiya (responding to Camille)

2024-10-17 17:37:42 UTC

I agree that the impact on the readers helps them feel a connection to the book, and I also agree that most of the illusions didn't provide that much insight into F451 besides the Icarus reference.

Teddy 11

2024-10-17 17:52:36 UTC

Dover Beach works the most by showing how bboks can trigger different emotions

Brandon

2024-10-17 17:53:40 UTC

The impact is alluding to authors that these people in Montags world do not know. The least effective are allsuions to obscure people or things.

Brandon

2024-10-17 17:54:11 UTC

Clarisse because she causes guy to question the world and who he really is.

Theo Neri 11

2024-10-17 17:54:13 UTC

I think the Icarus reference is the best while the other ones are fine the Dover Beach one is a quotation he is reading from I think the meaning behind it is good but I don't know if I would call it a full on allusion.

Teddy 11

2024-10-17 17:54:32 UTC

Clarisse changes Montag's views on books by showing him all the great things they can do

Brandon

2024-10-17 17:54:38 UTC

He creates characters that cause strong emotional responses to other characters.

Kelly (11)

2024-10-17 17:55:13 UTC

I think that the allusions help connect the characters to similar ideas/themes. One important allusion I'd say was Icarus. One allusion that was considered weaker would of been Benjamin Franklin. I agree with Patrick in regards to the strong/important allusions in Fahrenheit 451.

Nathaniel (section 11)

2024-10-17 17:55:22 UTC

Allusions cause you to explore other books in order to understand the reference and therefore that part of the book, which essentially causes you to read more books. The most effective allusions are those with some sort of deeper meaning, such as the Icarus and Dover Beach references. The least effective allusions are the ones that are briefly mentioned.

Bradon

2024-10-17 17:55:45 UTC

Because its almost an accurate prediction of how screens are becoming more and more popuour over generations.

Theo Neri 11

2024-10-17 17:56:22 UTC

I definitely think that Clarisse had the biggest impact on Montag as he even kept thinking about what she would do through the whole book clearly she had an influence on him.

Sarah 11

2024-10-17 17:56:37 UTC

Allusions give more meaning to the story and they explain the story better. I think the most important allusion was the "Knowledge is power" and the least important is the Benjamin Franklin allusion.

Brandon respondsing to braye\ded

2024-10-17 17:57:26 UTC

I agree because they are more obscure

Mass Delci (11)

2024-10-17 17:57:33 UTC

I think many of the allusions in Fahrenheit 451 were important and could often help the reader understand something better. It could also do the opposite. In my opinion, the most effective allusion was when Granger spoke about the fight between Heracles and Antaeus. The least effective allusions were those that were brief and confusing, such as random names being referenced without explanation.

Nathaniel (Section 11)

2024-10-17 17:57:41 UTC

Clarisse was one of the main catalysts towards Guy's change, as when she asked if he was truly happy, he had a tinge of self doubt, which caused him to explore other entertainment or ideas, such as books.

Teddy 11

2024-10-17 17:57:52 UTC

Beatty is made to disregard Montag's views on books by explaining their fake history.

brandon respodning to miguel

2024-10-17 17:57:58 UTC

I agree with this claim

responding to miguel brandon

2024-10-17 17:58:32 UTC

I agree that some character are more in depth with the world

Kelly (11)

2024-10-17 17:58:34 UTC

I think that catalyst characters trigger and speed up change in guy because they change or make him question his perspective of the problem. I think Clarrise was a major catalyst character. I agree with Ben that the lady who died in the fire was also a catalyst characters that triggered guy.

Theo 11

2024-10-17 17:58:44 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are definitely foils of each other they are exact opposites Clarisse was adventurous and curious while mildred lived in her own little world showing societies problems and captivity.

Dayanara

2024-10-17 17:58:57 UTC

I believe that the allusions in Fahrenheit 451 gave the story depth. Every allusion had many connections to the story which helped explain things in more detail to readers.

Brandon responding to miguel

2024-10-17 17:59:00 UTC

I agree

Tony

2024-10-17 17:59:06 UTC

The Dover Beach or Icarus was the most effective allusions. The allusion that was least effective was Benjamin Franklin. The Icarus and Dover Beach allusions were great since it showed how the people in the society were very ignorant. The Benjamin Franklin was to introduce that there was no president but a fireman.

Elias

2024-10-17 17:59:20 UTC

The allusions Bradbury decided to use, besides for the few exceptions, were primarily utilized to bring a deeper understanding to certain concepts. They were used to add perspective and to help readers understand the content of the novel better by comparing it to something they may know.

Mass Delci (11)

2024-10-17 17:59:40 UTC

A catalyst character that speeds up a change in Guy Montag is the woman who willingly burnt to death alongside her books. It made Guy realize how unhappy some people were and how much they could care about something like books.

Sarah 11

2024-10-17 17:59:44 UTC

I think Clarisse McCellan sped up a change in Guys life because it makes him question if he was really happy.

Christine

2024-10-17 17:59:53 UTC

Allusions are to help the reader understand and connect to the book. The allusion that I felt was the most effective was the Dover Beach poem.

Zedaan KHan

2024-10-17 18:00:11 UTC

They allude to real life people to show their influence in the world of Fahrenheit 451. The most effective solution is probably the Dover Beach allusion because it reflects on the world of Fahrenheit 451

Teddy 11

2024-10-17 18:00:30 UTC

It shows what can happen if books are forgotten, and strikes fear into people because of that.

Farouk

2024-10-17 18:00:32 UTC

The Icarus allusion and the Dover beach poem are the allusions that work the best and the rest don't really work as well and don't really add much to the story.

Nathaniel (section 11)

2024-10-17 18:00:36 UTC

Bradbury crafts specific foils to each other by taking one character's personality, taking the exact opposite of that, and then implementing it into another character. Sometimes, he creates an external image of the character that can be misleading, like Beatty. Beatty and Montag seemed the same on the surface, but inside, Beatty was completely different from Montag.

Tony

2024-10-17 18:00:37 UTC

Clarisse Mclellan was a catalyst that triggers or speeds up a change in Guy. Clarisse is the person who makes Guy question things first and the start of realization of what the society he lives in.

Theo 11

2024-10-17 18:00:44 UTC

I think F 451 has remains popular because it shows a real world similarity and the similarity keeps getting stronger as time goes no we are becoming the society of F 451.

2024-10-17 18:00:49 UTC

The impact of Allusions in Fahrenheit 451 on me as a reader. Caused me to understand the text/book a little bit more. Especially if I knew what was being referenced. If I didn't, most likely I skipped past it

Nico U

2024-10-17 18:01:06 UTC

Allusions allowed Ray Bradbury to connect his writing to other works for the readers benefit.

Mass Delci (11)

2024-10-17 18:01:07 UTC

Bradbury made specific characters like Mildred and Clarisse to be foils to each other. Mildred was unwilling to question anything and enjoyed living comfortably in her artificial life. Clarisse on the other hand questioned everything and was not okay with acting the same way her peers did.

Sarah 11

2024-10-17 18:01:18 UTC

I think Clarisse and Mildred are the largest foil characters in the book because their personalitys contrasts each others.

Response to Ben

2024-10-17 18:01:29 UTC

I agree that the Dover Beach allusion works the most

Christine

2024-10-17 18:01:47 UTC

I feel like Clarisse McLellan had the most impact on Montag, making he work against the rules.

Elias

2024-10-17 18:01:49 UTC

Clarisse offered a new perspective on life to Guy, and was, in many ways, the reason Guy revolted against the current staus quo, or the state of their nation.

Zedaan Khan

2024-10-17 18:02:18 UTC

I think Clarisse is the character that changes Guy because she causes him to think about the value of books.

Nico U

2024-10-17 18:02:23 UTC

A catalyst such as Clarice made Guy think about his life and if he was truly happy which he thought about throughout the whole novel.

Dayanara

2024-10-17 18:02:45 UTC

Clarisse McLellan was one of the people who changed Montag. She changed his mindset on the society they're in and how something needs to change about it.

Farouk

2024-10-17 18:02:46 UTC

I agree with nicholas that Clarisse was the person who pushed and motivated montag to begin his collection and journey of books.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:02:47 UTC

I agree with Ben because The Icarus and Bed Dover were the only two that I remembered and the two that stayed in my mind.

Nathaniel (Section 11)

2024-10-17 18:03:00 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained very popular for many generations, due to the issues it addresses, its ideas and the allusions that come with it that still have a great impact on us now.

Response to Noah(Zedaan Khan)

2024-10-17 18:03:04 UTC

I think that Clarisse heavily affected a change in Guy as well.

Theo 11

2024-10-17 18:03:04 UTC

I totally agree with Patrick it has great real world connections that keeping you wanting to read it.

Mass Delci (11)

2024-10-17 18:03:13 UTC

I believe Fahrenheit 451 has remained so popular over the years because it's a book that makes us think. There are many elements and ideas that are up for interpretation and answers that we must provide for ourselves. This book shows how our world might have ended up without books, and that concept is extremely interesting.

Tony

2024-10-17 18:03:14 UTC

Mildred is an example as a foil to Montag by is always shown to be already affected by the fog that makes her not question anything about the government and things in general. Her character was created to be someone Montag sees and realizes she is being controlled.

Sarah 11

2024-10-17 18:03:24 UTC

I think its been popular for generations because a lot of generations can relate to this book. The book could relate to people on their tech all the time.

Christine

2024-10-17 18:03:33 UTC

Mildred would be one of the characters because of her seashell radio that works as earbuds.

Response to Ben (Zedaan)

2024-10-17 18:03:42 UTC

I agree that Dover Beach is the most effective out of the allusions.

Ivana (sec 11)

2024-10-17 18:03:46 UTC

Clarisse is a catalyst character that triggers a change in Guy because she makes him start to question why he burns books and the appeal of reading. After meeting her he began reading and questioning the society he lived in.

Henry

2024-10-17 18:03:56 UTC

Allusions impacted the readers of Fahrenheit 451 by giving the story a deeper meaning and giving the reader some other context and history. I think the Icarus allusions were the most effective and the least effective was Benjamin Franklin.

Farouk

2024-10-17 18:04:02 UTC

Clasrrise and mildred are without a doubt the largest foils in this story.

Elias

2024-10-17 18:04:17 UTC

Mildred's "zombie"-like behaviors serve to foil, or compliment Guy's slowly growing differences in opinions, as well as the stark difference between what people in their world consider "normal" and what we, in the real world, view as ordinary.

Response to Ryan (Sarah)

2024-10-17 18:04:18 UTC

I agree with your post and was very inspired by it.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:04:19 UTC

Clarrise is a catalyst character who speeds up Guy's change. She makes him wonder and question the world they live in and take time to simply think and reflect.

Zedaan Khan

2024-10-17 18:04:34 UTC

He crafts Mildred and Clarisse to foil each other befause Clarisse goes outside and reads books while Mildred is zoned in on the TV

Tony

2024-10-17 18:04:50 UTC

F451 has remained popular for generations because it basically shows how the government really treats its people in the system of their own kind of government.

Nico U

2024-10-17 18:04:55 UTC

Ray Bradbury uses these foil characters to surprisingly change these main characters and/or protagonists views of themselves or the world.

Response to Noah (Sarah 11)

2024-10-17 18:05:06 UTC

I agree with your post.

Christine it was really popular for its time and it kind of still is and can also relate our world.

2024-10-17 18:05:11 UTC

Henry

2024-10-17 18:05:23 UTC

Clarise McCellan was the person who triggered a speed up in Guy by making him think more about the world around him

Jake Luna

2024-10-17 18:05:25 UTC

Someone like the Old Woman that was burnt with the books is a character that had speeded up change to Montag because he was curious about what made books so important to the woman life that she would burn with them making him want to open/read a book to see what was so important or so magnificent about it to want to die for it.

Reply to Noel (Zedaan Khan)

2024-10-17 18:05:30 UTC

I agree that Mildred and Clarisse foil each other the most and that they have the biggest contrast in this book.

Response to Patrick (Sarah)

2024-10-17 18:05:39 UTC

I agree with your wording about Mildred.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:05:45 UTC

I agree with Noah because we see that even with the few seconds Clarisse had with Guy she got him very curious. Simple things like how he met his wife were something he was barely able to find an answer to.

Nico U

2024-10-17 18:05:54 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 still remains popular because some of these issues are still occurring and were a part of our history.

Aoibhe

2024-10-17 18:05:56 UTC

Honestly In my opinion I thought the Dover beach poem and minstrel man were the most effective, the rest I felt a little bit confused by.

Nathaniel (section 11) (response to derrick)

2024-10-17 18:06:00 UTC

I agree with this, as the vast majority of the allusions within Fahrenheit 451 were completely pointless and had no deeper meaning or relevance to the overall theme.

Rayaan

2024-10-17 18:06:07 UTC

I also think that Clarisse McLellan

Farouk

2024-10-17 18:06:08 UTC

I agree with Patrick on how it relates to the modern day world and that's what made you wanting to keep on reading.

Responding to Noah (Mass Delci, 11)

2024-10-17 18:06:14 UTC

I think it is a book that talks about all the issues in a way that people find interesting and it's kept the book so popular. Especially how it shows and confronts the brainlessness you mentioned so forwardly.

Response to Ben (Sarah)

2024-10-17 18:06:28 UTC

I agree with your post, it really represents the modern day with technology.

Zedaan Khan

2024-10-17 18:06:29 UTC

I think it is still popular because the book is entertaining and the people in their world are addicted to screens, which is similar to our situation right now.

Henry

2024-10-17 18:06:30 UTC

I agree with Nickolas and his reasoning for how Clarisse sped up Guys character development making him think about the world around him.

Dayanara

2024-10-17 18:06:44 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred

They are practically 2 completely different people. For example Mildred is cold and distant but Clarisse is so much more full of life and outgoing.

Tony

2024-10-17 18:07:03 UTC

Responding to Noah. I agree with Noah, basically if you don't start a change, you will be consumed and you will not get out like the entirely of the society. The questioning of Clarisse triggers Montag to go questioning other things and people.

Jeovanna

2024-10-17 18:07:04 UTC

Why I believe that Fahrenheit 451 has become popular over the years, is because even though the story was written in the 50's, a lot of whats in there many can relate today even if it trying to be depicted in a dystopian society. For example, many kids aren't reading anymore (outside of school) and are just glued to technology.

Zedaan Khan (response to Patrick)

2024-10-17 18:07:13 UTC

I agree that the book is good and that its similar to our world

Nathaniel (Section 11) (Response to Ivan)

2024-10-17 18:07:13 UTC

I agree with your opinion, as I believe Guy truly began to change right around the time that Clarisse asked that question.

Elias

2024-10-17 18:07:41 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 is not like other novels. Simple as that. Fahrenheit 451 serves to offer a perspective into the eyes of a man who lived in a time of complete uncertainty, shrouded by fear and paranoia. While simultaneously showing what he thinks the future will be like, and now that we live in the years he set the novel in, we see the similarities, and the eerie accuracy Bradbury possessed.

Christine (Response to Mika)

2024-10-17 18:07:43 UTC

I agree with the fact that when he references something it helps the reader Bradbury's point.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:07:47 UTC

Allusions allow the reader to see the deeper side of the book and the true meaning/ what the author wants us to understand. However, the only way you can see the deeper meaning of the Allusion is if you know what the author is talking about.

Aoibhe

2024-10-17 18:07:48 UTC

I thought that Clarise changed Guy Montag the most because he goes home and everything the thinks about his world has changed mostly.

Ivana (sec 11)

2024-10-17 18:07:56 UTC

The allusions help make the story become more detailed and give the story a deeper meaning. It helps create context.

Kelly (11)

2024-10-17 18:08:19 UTC

In Fahrenheit 451, the foil characters were Mildred and Clarrise. These characters effect Guy Montag in the story. In agreement to Mika I think that these characters are very different.

Nathaniel (Section 11) (Response to Hazel)

2024-10-17 18:08:36 UTC

I agree with this idea, as he does indeed make clear opposites of characters. I would like to add that he does sometimes create the illusion that 2 characters are the same.

Ellie Fink

2024-10-17 18:09:00 UTC

The allusion to Icarus is most effective because most people already have information regarding the story and it is an easy allusion to understand. The least effective allusion was the reference to the Tyger because it was hard to catch and hard to understand.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:09:03 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are the two foil characters. The two may look alike in Montag's eyes but they are the complete opposite in real life.

Henry

2024-10-17 18:09:03 UTC

Mildred is the best example of a foil character in the novel because she opposes Guy and doesn't even notice him and agnowledge what he's saying.

Disagreeing with Daniel (Mrs. McLong)

mmcdonald217 — 2024-10-17 18:09:14 UTC

I think it is difficult to argue that the "Book People" serve as catalysts since Montag meets them at the end of the novel...

Elias

2024-10-17 18:09:27 UTC

I completely agree with Patrick, and the idea that it has remained popular because of it's unexpected accuracy.

Nico (replying to Mika)

2024-10-17 18:09:31 UTC

Ok ok I agree. Allusions that Ray Bradbury uses are important to the reader. I don't think he's trying to use any illusions as a joke though.

Aoibhe

2024-10-17 18:09:35 UTC

I feel like it has been popular because it is like real life except he uses symbols and allusions to show it.

Eddyagelle

2024-10-17 18:09:54 UTC

I agree with Ben on the fact that Clarrise and Mildred are the two biggest foil characters in Fahrenheit 451

Kelly (11)

2024-10-17 18:09:59 UTC

I think that Fahrenheit is a very important book that's been relevant and continues to stay relevant because of it's history. it alludes to many different yet historical pieces of literature, and it carries an important theme. I think Ben has a great point explaining the context behind the book and how it's able to still stay relevant.

Jeovanna

2024-10-17 18:10:00 UTC

A catalyst character that speeds up a change in Guy Montag, is most likely Clarrise. Who, took montag aback by asking so many questions about him and they're society which started to result into Montag, question himself and his morals.

Rayaan

2024-10-17 18:10:17 UTC

I agree with most people that Ray Bradbury uses Clarisse and Mildred as foils to each other.

Ivana (sec 11)

2024-10-17 18:10:48 UTC

Mildred and Clarisse are catalyst characters because Mildred represents the lazy brainwashed people in the society while Clarisse is someone who thinks for herself and actively questions the things wrong with their dystopian society.

Vicky 11

2024-10-17 18:10:58 UTC

Clarisse and Mildred, who are foil characters, don't have much things in common. Mildred wants to watch TV all day long, while Clarisse loves her seashells.

Christine (Response to Jayden)

2024-10-17 18:11:03 UTC

I agree with this since he broke the law and his role as a firefighter because of her.

Ellie Fink

2024-10-17 18:11:15 UTC

Clarrise is a catalyst character because she asks Guy questions about the world. She wants to know if he is happy and is much more genuine than his wife who cares more for her TV family than him. She provides contrast to what his life is now and what it could be. He wants to know what freedom feels like.

Eddygaelle

2024-10-17 18:11:20 UTC

F451 has remained popular for so long because a little part of humanity realizes that it's coming true. Maybe not so much of the burning books. However, we are slowly starting to stop ready as often. Most kids only get a small amount of reading based solely on school.

Henry

2024-10-17 18:11:25 UTC

I think Farenhiet 451 has remained so popular over the years is because the dystopian story talks about what the future could be like and we are now in that future and are seeing some of the things that were talked about in the book like the seashells which resemble airpods and other devices you can use to listen to music or videos.

Honor Alexander

2024-10-17 18:11:35 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers of Fahrenheit 451 made it so the was a deeper mean behind what characters wanted to convey. The Francis bacon was most effective and I feel as if none was least affective.

Nathaniel (Section 11) (Response to Wesley)

2024-10-17 18:11:47 UTC

I agree with this, as we are still aware of the impacts of the of the Soviet Union, and there is a certain psychological factor that contributes to Fahrenheit 451's popularity throughout generations.

Jake Luna

2024-10-17 18:11:49 UTC

The impact of allusions on readers can be important. One reason is that allusions add a deeper meaning to the book. The Icarus allusion and the Dover Beach poem were the two most working allusions.

James 11

jnguyen172_1 — 2024-10-17 18:11:57 UTC

I agree with Patrick, the book has a lot of connections to the real world where it makes the reader feel like they are apart of it.

Nico U replying to Derrick

2024-10-17 18:12:03 UTC

Yes, but how do these headphones make her a foil character, what is their purpose and how does Mildred overall contribute to the novel??

Patrick

2024-10-17 18:12:18 UTC

I agree with Patrick because if we take a look at the modern world we will in fact see this is true. The huge impact the internet has had on us.

Gbemisola Oni

2024-10-17 18:12:28 UTC

Allusion in the book Fahrenheit 451 is every effective and contradictory of Guy's society because there are many allusion about how society is rotting.

Honor Alexander

2024-10-17 18:12:33 UTC

Clarisse Mclealln being a catalyst character sped uo the change in Guys character because she made him question things.

Vicky 11

2024-10-17 18:12:37 UTC

The catalyst character speeds up the change in Guy Montage is Clarisse McClellan. She makes Montag question the way society works and his life.

Ivana (sec 11)

2024-10-17 18:12:41 UTC

The book Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular for generations because in some ways, the book shows our modern day society. The book also shows the ideas what people from the past thought their future would be like.

Responding to Daniel

mmcdonald217 — 2024-10-17 18:12:42 UTC

This seems more like the definition of a catalyst than a foil, no?

Christine ( Response to Ben)

2024-10-17 18:12:47 UTC

I agree that these two characters contrast each other by having different personalities.

Aoibhe

2024-10-17 18:13:22 UTC

I think Mildred is the largest foil character because she is ignorant and careless about everything except her "family." This makes it seem like she is out of everything or like spaced out especially with the seashells in her ears blocking out most noises.

Rayaan

2024-10-17 18:13:27 UTC

I agree that Clarisse (McCellan) triggers a change in Guy Montag because most of the questions and conversations thart they have really speeds up a change most of the tiime.

Ellie Fink

2024-10-17 18:13:29 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are foil characters towards one another. While Clarrise is angelic, genuine, and new, Mildred is lazy, boring, and ignorant. Clarrise represents people like others today, and Mildred represents their dystopia.

Ivana sec 11

2024-10-17 18:13:33 UTC

I agree with Jake Luna because the Dover Beach poem helped us better understand what Guy meant and that it helped us understand the book.

Honor Alexander

2024-10-17 18:13:37 UTC

I think the book has remained popular because of its relevant and relatable context.

Christine (Response to Nico)

2024-10-17 18:13:53 UTC

I agree that their dystopian world can be related to our making it popular.

Vicky

2024-10-17 18:14:00 UTC

Allusions are every effective to help entertain the readers, but sometimes the readers might be confused on what the author is trying to explain.

Dayanara

2024-10-17 18:14:10 UTC

I believe its because so many of the topics are still relevant to this day. Like everything going on with technology growing increasingly while theres been a decline in reading books.

Ivana sec 11

2024-10-17 18:14:15 UTC

I agree with Eddygaelle because Clarisse helped Guy think and reflect on books.

Honor Alexander

2024-10-17 18:14:31 UTC

Clarrise and Mildred are really big foil characters because of their opposing veiws in life.

Honor Alexander

2024-10-17 18:15:09 UTC

I agree allusions make a bigger impact.

Ellie Fink

2024-10-17 18:15:16 UTC

Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular because it gives readers a sense of wonder. It shows them a society where people are not free to read while they are reading.

Brydie Caetano (41)

2024-10-17 18:20:18 UTC

The Dover Beach allusion in Farenheit 451 was the most important one, and the others were irrelevant such as the one of Benjamin Franklin being the first fireman.

Brydie Caetano (41)

2024-10-17 18:23:47 UTC

I think Fahrenheit 451 has remained popular, because people may enjoy reading it and it holds a lot of importance when viewing our society.

Iziya 71

2024-10-17 18:27:08 UTC

i agree with Ben because bradbury makes all the characters different in their own ways.

Iziya 71

2024-10-17 18:30:24 UTC

The illusion impacts on readers of Fahrenheit 451 to show the readers some deeper context from different societies and what happened and why. And an allusion with the most effect is of Mildreds panick attack to the eruption of Mount Vesuvius.

Kaiya

2024-10-17 18:51:48 UTC

I agree with Wyatt that Clarisse is the one that speeds up the change in Guy by making him question his life.

Kaiya

2024-10-17 18:54:29 UTC

I agree with Violet that Mildred and Clarrise are foil characters based on their interests and personalities.

Kaiya

2024-10-17 18:56:35 UTC

I agree with Crisly that the book has remained popular for its similarities to our modern world.

Eliana (replying to Adah)

2024-10-17 19:25:21 UTC

I agree and also think that the allusion of Icarus and Dadalus is a very effective allusion.

Eliana (response to Eddygaelle)

2024-10-17 19:27:04 UTC

I completely agree that Clarisse helps speed up Guy's change.

Anh Minh (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 19:45:52 UTC

Two foil characters that I feel really contrast each other are Clarisse and Mildred. While Clarisse has the personality, thinking, and appreciation of the outside world, Mildred is sucked of any personality, mindlessly thinking, and as such, is basically stripped of her soul. For example, Clarisse observes people, spends free time thinking to herself, and (most likely) would read books. Mildred, on the other hand, watches TV, spends money excessively, etc.

Anh Minh (Sec. 41)

2024-10-17 19:52:27 UTC

One reason that Fahrenheit 451 has remained relevant through future generations is because of how eerily accurate were the predictions highlighted in the book. Even during the time of the novel's writing, I'm sure books could've been on the decline already.

Lilian Le (Section 41)

2024-10-17 20:33:14 UTC

This books helps readers reflect about this society compared to our society now.

Gbemisola Oni

2024-10-18 00:21:43 UTC

I think that Clarisse is the one who sparks something up in Guy because she really center him back to how he feel and the importance of his job to him.

responce to Lillian (Abdullah)

2024-10-18 00:26:08 UTC

I agree with Lillian because it is similar to what I wrote, in that it talks about how society is expected to be a certain way even if it is not right. And it's comparing our society to back then.

Gbemisola Oni

2024-10-18 00:33:53 UTC

I think that Clarisse is a foil character because she is contradictory and goes against the behavior of the rest of the people in Guy Montag's society.

harun

2024-10-18 00:42:03 UTC

I aggree with Patrick since book farhaniet 451 did realte to modern people since people are mindless about what they are doing and addicted to harm technologies

Harun

2024-10-18 00:44:12 UTC

I agree with Noah since clarrise is a person that question her self and when she quotioned montag he kinda doubted himself

Harun

2024-10-18 00:47:18 UTC

I agree with Ryan on how allusion impacts on readers of fahrenheit 451 since it give more context and explanatory to something that they refer to.

Gbemisola

2024-10-18 02:16:53 UTC

I think that F451 has remained a popular novel for many generations because that sort of dystopia is happening in different aspect of the world right now. They book in a dystopia about the 2020s which is in our times.