https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns Backchannel en-us 2019-03-04 13:57:11 UTC 2021-07-11 11:16:35 UTC hello@padlet.com katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337489273 VIctor's acceptance of his fate can be paralleled with MAry SHelly's acceptance of losing her daughter. We've read the article so we know that Frankenstien is Shelley's ways of living out the fantasy of resurrecting her late daughter.

]]> 2019-03-04 15:03:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337489273 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337489357 -Noah

]]> 2019-03-04 15:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337489357 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337496344 I think that victor kinda switched places with the monster in a way. Originally victor was the creator who made the creature but then the creature became the creator when he turned Victor into a monster. This happened  through the isolation that was mirrored by his own and the torture that he went through that was caused by the monster.Just how Victor tortured the monster through his abandonment of the creature at it's "birth"-----Savannah Rock]]> 2019-03-04 15:16:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337496344 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337496623 Stories can have more than one monster. Its about the actions that the person is doing that makes them a monster. Its like the monster project that we did, monsters can be in any kind of form.  -zayda 

]]> 2019-03-04 15:17:21 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337496623 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337498002  
Another way the book can parallel with the bible is in Genesis sin is brought into the world after Adam and Eve take an apple from the Tree of Knowledge; this can also illustrate how acquiring knowledge is dangerous. -Alex L.]]> 2019-03-04 15:19:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337498002 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337498263 she could have been againts being alive or being a part of humanity after eveything the monster went through - JD

]]> 2019-03-04 15:20:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337498263 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337499478 Back to my PTSD theory ;). When Victor and his friend decided to go to Oxford university, they took a break on life and enjoyed themselves, even tho victor was getting materials for something in the end he wouldn't create *cry*. I think this time off could help Victor cope with his PTSD and is able to breath, no stress or worry, see. to get better with yourself, you can fix your social life, go have a break, improve relationships, and enjoy life. Victor gets engaged with Elizabeth, goes on a trip, lives in London. These ways can help Victor cope...  ]]> 2019-03-04 15:22:21 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337499478 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337499538 seth**

]]> 2019-03-04 15:22:27 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337499538 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337500053 Brandon: I think going off of what raul said of the concept of the bible and devils being shown in out desires. I feel as though in the end vincent finally caught up with himself for his taboos of human experimentation and how the devil took place in judas in the form of his greed of money and Vincents want for creation and the idea of death and the monsters instrumental role as Vincents devil, a reflection of his sins

]]> 2019-03-04 15:23:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337500053 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337500160 Women were seen as slight and weaker,not apt to really putting up a fight. Had Mary Shelley made her female characters more strong-willed and brave, it would have seemed unnatural, because how women were viewed. Our view of women today is totally different then the feelings toward women then. To us, its strange, but to them that was the norm for women.-------Savannah Rock]]> 2019-03-04 15:23:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337500160 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501208 Adrian - I think its interesting how Victor reacted to the deaths of Elizabeth and Henry, I believe he finally gave in to the wrath of the monster because he has already taken enough from him and he realized he dug himself into too deep of a hole and realized he can't stop him. ]]> 2019-03-04 15:25:06 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501208 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501871 Was the monsters request for a mate really all horrible. victor was against the creation of her because it could've created like a whole monster generation, but he was lonely in the world and no one accepted him and if he had a mate he would finally have someone to talk to, and maybe not even become this horrible monster he became throughout the story.]]> 2019-03-04 15:26:14 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501871 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501930 Kinzie-Frankenstein kind of reminds me of Shakesperean Tragedy, There is a "Tragic Hero" who was cursed with a fatal flaw(Hamartia) of over ambition, and Victor tries to fix that flaw and the creation of the flaw throughout the play. He goes through a struggle of good and evil where he tries to figure out what is the best thing to do for his creature and the mess he created with it. There was tragic deaths of the "hero" and other role playing characters in the story. With the multiple deaths and struggle with Internal and External conflict I feel like it mirrors multiple plays like Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet.]]> 2019-03-04 15:26:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501930 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501965 -karynn

]]> 2019-03-04 15:26:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337501965 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337502579 So in response to Alex from earlier, as we wrote about the quote ""how dangerous the acquirement of knowledge..."  I thought it was interesting how because the monster acquired knowledge of how terrible the world can be and how evil people are, he lost his innocence which intern made him become unhappy. I think that if he were to have stayed in his "native" which was heaven or hell or wherever he was, there wouldn't have been corruption. If Victor hadn't acquired the knowledge of the afterlife and how to bring one back, he wouldn't have lost Elizabeth or lost his relationship with his family while he was in isolation creating the monster. -Reese]]> 2019-03-04 15:27:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337502579 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337502863 To go off of what Savannah said At this point in time it would have been hard for Mary Shelley to make a name for her regardless about how good her book was & for her to create strong willed women, it would have been seen as just a feminist book & probably wouldn't have been taken as seriously as the way her book is -Belicia]]> 2019-03-04 15:27:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337502863 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503119 talking about the monster and society i believe he does reflect the bad side of society but i also think because of what he saw it caused him to act that way thinking maybe he'd be accepted if he treated people the way they treated him. -brianna ]]> 2019-03-04 15:28:14 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503119 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503182 I agree with Bruce and Rayne  that there is no good person in the story,  but these books ( Frankenstein and Jane Eyre ) just show the reality of the world now. Especially, when these stories were written. These are pure gothic characteristics shown. There is no hero. ]]> 2019-03-04 15:28:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503182 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503258 -zayda 

]]> 2019-03-04 15:28:26 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503258 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503621 Her death was the catalyst to him beginning to really thinking about death, because thinking back to the way he thought about her death, he said that it seemed so hard to except that she would be gone forever. He never had really thought about what life meant before she died and that was what sparked his interest in the study of life.-------Savannah Rock]]> 2019-03-04 15:29:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503621 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503849 Death is for sure a big cause that leads up to the actions and the story overall. -zayda 

]]> 2019-03-04 15:29:29 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337503849 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504209  is it weird that the hut he goes to , its withered down?? Like gothic style description? and you could say that victor did make history, this books about him. haha. -s.a.

]]> 2019-03-04 15:30:12 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504209 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504313 Do you think the monster finally learned his lesson by vowing to destroy his monster? -karynn]]> 2019-03-04 15:30:23 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504313 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504383 The women of the story aren't really that big a character, once more reflecting the views of women back then.-----Savannah Rock]]> 2019-03-04 15:30:30 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504383 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504562 Back to whether the monster was getting revenge or not, i think the "monster" was just lonely. He went his whole "life" with no one, he was left by himself and was treated terribly by the rest of society. I think that's why the "monster" went off and killed Elizabeth and Henry, he wanted someone to be able to relate to the pain that the "monster" has to go through. This also sorta shows how the "monster" and victor are reflections of one another. Both try to play god at some point throughout the story. - Adam S.

]]> 2019-03-04 15:30:52 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504562 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504889 I think that the morals of Frankenstein can be applied today. Even what Raul said about technology. -Reese

]]> 2019-03-04 15:31:26 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337504889 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337505091 Going back to what Annie said about victor reacting to his mother’s death I think that's when he truly started to switch his role as morally okay because he didn’t have his mother to guide him away from the darkness of the world as she was his Light - Lauren]]> 2019-03-04 15:31:51 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337505091 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337568288 I feel like Frankenstein is exposing the ugly side of people,  the book was written during the age of enlightenment where critical thinking and looking at things at a different perspective. When the blind father took in the Monster and taught him manners and how to read, he was the only that wasn't disgusted by Frankenstein because he was blind, while the rest of the family despised because of his outer appearance. I really feel like Mary Shelley is making a comment on the ugly side of human nature where people only cared about the outer appearance - Ben Ye]]> 2019-03-04 17:23:22 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337568288 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337569968 Going back to Justine being accused for William's death, does this come full circle in a sense because Victor is blamed for the death of the body on the beach and imprisoned? Was this comparison intentional and used to show how the monster is continuing to interfere in Victor's life? -Sabrina 

]]> 2019-03-04 17:26:59 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337569968 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337570435 Mary Shelly likes to utilize a lot of imagery, but when she never describes Victors work and refers to it as "his labour", what is the purpose of this?]]> 2019-03-04 17:28:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337570435 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337570518 ^cameron 

]]> 2019-03-04 17:28:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337570518 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337639089 I think that the reason the monster felt remorse for all of his murders at once is because this monster is becoming human, and its a very human thing to have feelings all wash over you at once, and so it makes sense that the last killing just broke that dam the monster had. -Savannah]]> 2019-03-04 19:38:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337639089 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337641476 What would be the main reason or cause to frankensteins killing of the individuals in the book?-Quenton Jackson ]]> 2019-03-04 19:43:34 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337641476 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337641693 I think that the monster wasn't entirely selfish it was more coming from a place of wanting to fit in and not be seen as this horrible monstorous creature, so I agree with Emmanuel in saying that the monster didn't entirely know what he was doing. Like he did at least a little bit but it wasn't something that was entirely malicious. -Savannah]]> 2019-03-04 19:43:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337641693 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337642736 The main reason for the killings I think was that the monster was trying to get revenge a little bit on Frankenstein, and to get Victor's attention , sort of like a childlike mindset. -Savannah

]]> 2019-03-04 19:45:49 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337642736 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337642862 I feel like he did know what he was doing, he wanted to fit in and didn't want to be this horrific creature and so if he couldn't have that relationship with humanity then no one else could, which is why he went after William, therefore he was acting in a selfish manner. -Brandon]]> 2019-03-04 19:46:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337642862 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337643509 Would frankenstein be considered to be demented for his actions? Quenton Jackson]]> 2019-03-04 19:47:08 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337643509 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337645364 I think murder in and of itself is such a human thing that because the monster wants to not be seen as a monster, he is immulating that human thing or feeling, which caused him to experience jealousy and isolation and revenge. -Savannah

]]> 2019-03-04 19:50:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337645364 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337645792 I don't believe Mary Shellys intent to portray Frankensteins character as one we should pitty i feel like she was trying to show the complexity of his character.By using his background to either justify or condemn his actions as the reader.You can see his character development throughout the story and how he struggles with finding his own self in a way that he hasnt had to before -leah]]> 2019-03-04 19:51:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337645792 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337646430 I agree with Leah about the fact that the monster does have a character development, and even though it wasn't necissarily a positive development, it was some sort of human development. -Savannah]]> 2019-03-04 19:52:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337646430 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337647775 I agree to whats been said Frankenstein was brought to this world and the way that he has reacted to the world is very natural for a human being to do so therefore we could say that frankenstein reacted to world events that created the monsters characters throughout the story Quenton Jackson]]> 2019-03-04 19:55:12 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337647775 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337652615 Somebody talk - Anonymous ]]> 2019-03-04 20:05:22 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337652615 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337653897 What was Shelly’s purpose in still trying to kill the monster, even though she wants the reader to pity the monster in the end.]]> 2019-03-04 20:07:56 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337653897 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337653952 That was Emmanuel ]]> 2019-03-04 20:08:02 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337653952 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337654677 I think she contadicts herself again because like she goes back and forth between pitying the monster and then turning the reader against him -Brandon]]> 2019-03-04 20:09:46 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337654677 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337671574 cloning am i right guys - Marshall]]> 2019-03-04 20:50:08 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337671574 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337673410 For all the wrong Victor has done, who would be the true monster? Victor or his creation? While the monster gets chased away, he tries to make things right and good, while Victor just tears him apart.- Britni]]> 2019-03-04 20:55:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337673410 katharine_aten https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337675417   This isn't a question, just a connection, but the monster killing everybody reminded me of the climax of Baby Driver. Basically the protagonist kills one of the antagonist's wife (like Victor destroyed the monsters companion) and because of this the antagonist tries to kill/destroy the protagonist's loves (like the monster killed everybody around Victor).

]]> 2019-03-04 21:01:00 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337675417 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337676659 That diss track tho]]> 2019-03-04 21:05:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/337676659 https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/342364029 2019-03-18 12:57:30 UTC https://padlet.com/katharine_aten/5m2shym6nvns/wish/342364029