Who is to Blame by

Who is to Blame by https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd Debate en-us 2017-10-15 21:07:14 UTC 2026-02-14 21:17:03 UTC hello@padlet.com Since the creature's figurative role is to mirror and reflect society, don't his actions also mirror society? This would make society to blame right? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661260 Maddy Mehren]]> 2017-10-23 16:21:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661260 Could the creature's treatment by Victor entirely be his fault? Victor has backed him into a corner by the thought of living and perishing alone. Couldn't that justify his vengance? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661410 Matthew Cantrell]]> 2017-10-23 16:22:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661410 If the creature was brought up better, would that have affected the way he behaves? Since he had childlike qualities of absorbing the information around him https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661556 Bella Lordge

]]> 2017-10-23 16:22:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661556 The Creature was told it was a monster, treated as a monster, and acted like a monster. Does this not mean the Creature is a monster? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661838 Luke Vorndran]]> 2017-10-23 16:22:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661838 The Creature does have emotions and feelings like "normal" beings. For example, when Felix darted at him and started to violently hit him, the Creature felt not to strike back, "But my heart sunk within me as bitter sickness, and I refrained" (Ch. 14/15). https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661874 Cisely Muro ]]> 2017-10-23 16:23:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199661874 At some point doesn't the creature talk about how his actions were due to a "hell within [him]" meaning that his actions were entirely his own fault? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662091 Thenushaa Kandiah]]> 2017-10-23 16:23:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662091 The Creature isn't an irredeemable monster. He has shown compassion, such as when he saved the girl from falling in the stream and when he stopped stealing when he found out that it harmed the cottagers. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662109 Kristan Pablico]]> 2017-10-23 16:23:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662109 Children act based on what they observe, and the creature being childlike, supports the idea that he is innocent, just mimicking what he sees in the world around him. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662389 Maddy Mehren]]> 2017-10-23 16:24:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662389 Since Frankenstein abandoned the creature, wouldn't that mean the creature developed his own morals and standards he used to kill William and Frame Justine? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662476 Joey Lombardo]]> 2017-10-23 16:24:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662476 Victor should take responsibility for whatever the creature does as it is his creation https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662699 Justin L]]> 2017-10-23 16:24:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662699 victor abandoned his creation and blamed him for all the awful things in his life. he blames him but it's his fault. victor was neglectful, short sided, and destructive https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662890 alexis cook]]> 2017-10-23 16:25:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662890 The creature did give Victor a choice and tries to rectify his creator's behavior through reason. "All men hate the wretched. How, then, must I be hated, who am miserable beyond all living things! Yet you, my creator, detest and spurn me, thy creature, to whom thou art bound by ties only dissoluble by the annihilation of one of us. You purpose to kill me. How dare you sport thus with life? Do your duty toward me, and I will do mine toward you and the rest of mankind. If you will comply with my conditions, I will leave them and you at peace" Ch. 10 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662921 Matthew Cantrell]]> 2017-10-23 16:25:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199662921 The creatures ability to kill William is influenced not only by his poor creator but the fact that Victor has given no importance to the creatures life therefore the creature must not see the deep importance in Williams. He sees the treatment given unto him and reciprocates. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663035 Bella Lordge]]> 2017-10-23 16:25:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663035 About Victor and the Creature: If a parent raises a child badly and the child ends up committing bad deeds, is the child's behavior the fault of the parent or the child? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663092 Kristan Pablico]]> 2017-10-23 16:25:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663092 Victor was only following his thought destiny, so he had no intention of causing destruction. His actions only created life, not the actions of the creature. (page 29/30). https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663430 Maddy Mehren]]> 2017-10-23 16:26:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199663430 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664580 2017-10-23 16:27:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664580 Seen in the 'Fall' of mankind in Genesis, things are created with the ideas of good and evil; therefore, the creature's decision to act with his inherent evil morals makes him to blame. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664832 Joey Lombardo]]> 2017-10-23 16:28:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664832 If Victor never made the Creature, would Victor have changed entirely as a person? The Creature did kill William which then led to Justine's death, if none of these happened, Victor would still be his sad, miserable self and not own up to his mistakes/the Creature's choices towards society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664929 Cisely Muro ]]> 2017-10-23 16:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664929 victor created this creature with intentions to "conquer death", and soon after he quite literally creates a "demon" that he shuns at the sight of his own creation. he manipulates nature to his liking and right after destroys his achievements.he is self destructive. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664939 alexis cook

]]> 2017-10-23 16:28:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199664939 @bella i agree, but wasn't the murder of William spurred by revenge, rather than his upbringing? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665010 Thenushaa Kandiah]]> 2017-10-23 16:28:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665010 Victor states "[He], not in deed, but in effect, was the true murderer." (Ch 9) https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665426 Dominic Hernandez]]> 2017-10-23 16:29:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665426 Society could be at fault for William's death. William rejects the Creature because he is afraid and revolted by his appearance. Judging someone by their appearance is something often taught by society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665579 Kristan Pablico]]> 2017-10-23 16:29:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665579 @thenushaa definetely, however his upbringing has taught him that life is unimportant and something to be manipulated and spurned so his actions do reflect the way he has been brought up https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665997 Bella Lordge]]> 2017-10-23 16:30:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199665997 Victor created the creature, that didn't mean Victor would know from the start the Creature would kill William out of rage. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666376 Luke Vorndran]]> 2017-10-23 16:31:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666376 Still. You can only blame Victor for the crimes of the creature so much. When the monster was given life, free will came along with it. - Antonio Yambot https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666702 2017-10-23 16:31:51 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666702 During Justine's trial, the people almost convinced her that she actually killed William even tho she hadn't. So when Victor first created the creature, he described him as if it were a monster. Could this have influenced the monster's upbringing. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666801 Justin L]]> 2017-10-23 16:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666801 innocent until proven guilty? victor is entirely guilty in every way, he abandoned his creation and blamed him for his own denied faults. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666958 alexis cook]]> 2017-10-23 16:32:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199666958 In the novel, the creature had a parent figure, the cottagers, and the fact that the cottagers abandoned him is more of a catalyst and devastating to him than Frankenstein's abandonment; therefore, Frankenstein's abandonment is not important to the cause of the deaths. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199667259 Joey Lombardo]]> 2017-10-23 16:33:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199667259 What Aaron said is false, Victor had a tremendous affect towards the Creature. If something traumatic happens to a child, sort of speak, that child will remember and become traumatized. Children will never remember words that have been said but will never forget the actions and experiences from a guardian/parent. The Creature started to create a revenge plan towards his creator, Victor due to his behavior towards the Creature being "born". https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199667463 Cisey Muro ]]> 2017-10-23 16:33:23 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199667463 Why does the creature feel "it might be in [his] power to restore happiness to these deserving people," when he realizes Felix's and Agatha's sadness? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668158 Dominic Hernandez]]> 2017-10-23 16:34:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668158 Victor left the Creature alone in his apartment, as an owner would leave a dog or pet. Victor himself was surprised to see the Creature had escaped. Victor 100% is responsible for the destruction the creature has brought upon this world. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668503 Luke Vorndran]]> 2017-10-23 16:35:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668503 There are people who have murdered others. Compared to that, Victor's crime is very small in the literal sense ( not religious). What separates Victor from those murderers who don't appear to be as punished as he is -Antonio Yambot https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668635

]]> 2017-10-23 16:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668635 The Delaceys betrayal may have influenced the monster's corruption as they were kind of his parental figures. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668872 Justin L]]> 2017-10-23 16:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668872 innocent means free from guilt or evil, but almost the entire book is victor moping and feeling guilty and yet, doing nothing about it as he blames the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668989 alexis cook]]> 2017-10-23 16:36:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199668989 Frankenstein did "abandon" the Creature but no one taught the creature to kill another human. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199669589 Luke Vorndran]]> 2017-10-23 16:37:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199669589 Although the creature did essentially kill William and Justine, Victor instilled vengeful feelings in the creature when he writes the creature is a "wretch" and "abhorred". This resulted in the creature killing William and Justine in revenge. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199673593 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 16:44:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199673593 The creature was completely innocent upon creation. How would he have learned these violent tendencies? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199673948 Alexis Lund

]]> 2017-10-23 16:44:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199673948 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674489 Cole Evans
If Victor was with him from the start, and actually cared about him, aught him what is right or wrong, would the murder ever happen?

]]> 2017-10-23 16:45:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674489 Although defense is the natural first instinct, it doesn't mean it must be fully acted on. In chapter 15, the creature could have attacked Felix, but he "refrained." Since the creature learned most, if not all, of his knowledge from Felix and his family, you would think Felix could have refrained, just as the creature did. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674495 Cassis Roland]]> 2017-10-23 16:45:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674495 did Victor create the creature out of curiosity and a yearn to apply his knowledge or did he actually know what he was getting into? if so, is he actually the one to blame or the creature was actually born to be a monster and will always be one? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674723 CJ Martires]]> 2017-10-23 16:46:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674723 maybe the creature's feelings of vengeance is society's fault as he says "thanks to the laws of man i had learned how to work mischief" (127). he learned how to be cruel from society's actions and is only mimicking what he saw https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674932 bethany oh]]> 2017-10-23 16:46:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199674932 These "survival instincts" are reinforced by the necessity to defend himself against the prejudices of society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675344 Alexis Lund]]> 2017-10-23 16:47:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675344 So if a little kid is constantly told that they are worthless and no one cares about that, does that mean that they will turn out to be killers? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675360 Billy Krantz

]]> 2017-10-23 16:47:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675360 murder isn't the way to deal with these things though https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675419 jasmine

]]> 2017-10-23 16:47:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675419 If most people today get blamed for their own actions, why does the creature not take full blame for the decisions he's made and the actions he's committed? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675627 Aaron Garcia]]> 2017-10-23 16:48:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675627 The creature has to learn violence from something.. and because Victor has abandoned him; society is the creatures only resource. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675831 Haley Wittick

]]> 2017-10-23 16:48:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675831 If you were to argue that Victor isn't to blame because people aren't judged by their appearance in the present day, couldn't you also argue that in this gothic time period, people were entirely judged by appearance and the creature's horrid figure subsequently cuts him off from companionship, causing Victor to be at blame? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675920 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 16:48:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199675920 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676174 Cole Evans
The creature has his own mind, his own will.

]]> 2017-10-23 16:49:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676174 if you said he has no control over his emotions, how could he control his actions? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676382 bethany oh]]> 2017-10-23 16:49:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676382 Can the Creature really be called a child if he was created with a full grown adult brain? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676492 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2017-10-23 16:49:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676492 Creed enjoys malicious deeds, they fill him with a "hellish triumph" (127) and was never taught to enjoy evil. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676818 Aaron Garcia]]> 2017-10-23 16:50:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676818 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676967 Cole Evans
If the creature is this smart, he should be smart enough to see what is right or wrong in society

]]> 2017-10-23 16:50:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199676967 He learned all of his knowledge from society, along with his morals. The De Lacey's shed light on specific books such as Paradise Lost and Sorrows of Werter, which taught him things such as violence. So why would society not be to blame from the creature's outbursts when society has been surrounding him and teaching him immoral values his whole short life? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677077 Cassis Roland]]> 2017-10-23 16:50:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677077 The creature initially despises killing even after being influenced by Felix reading a historical novel to Safie. He states that "when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased, and I turned away with disgust and loathing". How could the creature be badly influenced by society if he feels this way? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677746 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 16:51:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677746 the creature is referred to as "the monster/creature" for a reason. he was born to be a monster and will always possess those monster qualities no matter what influence- society or victor- he was created to possess these qualities for a reason and will always be the one to blame for. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677783 CJ Martires]]> 2017-10-23 16:51:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677783 can you blame william for reacting that way to the creature though? the creature violently "seized" him and his appearance only added to that feeling of fear. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677787 bethany oh]]> 2017-10-23 16:51:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677787 Just because you are called names or people make fun of you, that gives you no right to lash out and kill others in order to get revenge on someone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677832 Billy Krantz]]> 2017-10-23 16:51:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677832 if you saw a huge creature like that you would run away to, it's human instinct that we have, fight or flight, they are just protecting themselves and what they love https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677894 jasmine caruthers]]> 2017-10-23 16:51:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199677894 "No father had watched my infant days, no mother had blessed me with smiles of caresses". No matter the creatures level of brain development, he will forever be deprived of these vital childhood elements. Although he was not the typical child, the developmental stage of a "child's" life is when they are most impacted by their surroundings and he will never have this experience. Only Victor, as his "creator" could have supplied him with this developmental element. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199678189 Alexis Lund

]]> 2017-10-23 16:52:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199678189 it isnt a normal parent-child relationship https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679006 jasmine]]> 2017-10-23 16:53:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679006 Human instinct is differentiated from degrading the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679149 Haley Wittick ]]> 2017-10-23 16:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679149 When an atrocity is committed, people don't blame the society they live with or their parents. The blame always goes towards the murderer or the thief etc. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679248 Aaron Garcia]]> 2017-10-23 16:54:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679248 the creature knew what he was doing when he framed justine, https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679642 2017-10-23 16:54:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679642 The creature isn't instinctively evil; his wickedness intensifies after being rejected from his creator. He feels abandoned when he learns "how the father doated on the smiles of the infant" and becomes enraged due to being abandoned by Victor. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679798 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 16:55:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679798 The creature is not a psychopath i guess https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679816 2017-10-23 16:55:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199679816 Being strangled is pretty painless though so it seems humane to me. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680170 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2017-10-23 16:55:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680170 connecting to Cassis's question, those books did teach him those qualities and got those ideas in his head about "Adam and Eve and Satan" the creature connects himself to both characters, and that he's confused on what he actually is. But, he was created to be a monster and will always be one https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680298 2017-10-23 16:56:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680298 the creature knew what he was doing when he framed justine, he said, "but she, shall suffer;the murder i have committed because i am forever robbed of all that she could give me."(103) he did it as payback to society without even knowing the girl and ruined a life https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680689 jasmine]]> 2017-10-23 16:56:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199680689 Spencer, how is being strangled painless? Just wondering. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199681524 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 16:58:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199681524 Victor's abandonment resulted in the creature being forced to fend for himself. He didn't fulfill the "responsibilities as creator" to the creature until he had already killed William and Justine. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682508 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 17:00:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682508 the creature wants frankenstein dead too https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682666 jasmine]]> 2017-10-23 17:00:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682666 If you're being strangled hard enough oxygen flow to your brain is cut out so quickly that you just pass out and die. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682737 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2017-10-23 17:00:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682737 he creature didnt see Victor for a couple of years so dont you think that would have been plenty of time for the creature to cool off and find a life instead of continuing to try to hurt Victor by hurting the ones Victor loves https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682778 Billy]]> 2017-10-23 17:00:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199682778 Even though Victor created the creature, it was society that raised him. Even in today's society, if an orphan birthed by immoral parents is raised by moral guardians, the child would be moral because that's what he's been taught. This gives society the blame because they have taught the creature immorality. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199683195 Cassis Roland]]> 2017-10-23 17:01:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199683195 It causes hypoxia, creating a false feeling of euphoria, is what Spencer is trying to say https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199683275 Benjamin Kim]]> 2017-10-23 17:01:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199683275 I'd say being strangled is a pretty traumatic experience though. Also, why is killing a small child okay in general? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684015 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 17:02:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684015 Neither is Spencer lol https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684122 2017-10-23 17:02:47 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684122 Have you ever been strangled? Need personal experience. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684502 Meghan Townsley

]]> 2017-10-23 17:03:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684502 You can't experience trauma if you're dead though and I didn't say killing him was okay, just that strangling isn't overtly inhumane and torturous. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684713 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2017-10-23 17:03:47 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684713 Although I haven't been strangled to death, I can only suppose it's not a fun experience. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684826 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 17:03:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684826 but the creature and victor do not represent a typical "parent child relationship" they have no correlation to each other, just as victor is the one who created the creature, that's all they have in common https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684854 CJ Martires]]> 2017-10-23 17:04:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199684854 it isnt a normal relationship, the creature has a fast developing mind, he should be able to realize right from wrong https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685043 jasmine]]> 2017-10-23 17:04:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685043 But is the creature truly considered a child if he is made up of human parts https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685552 Meghan Townsley ]]> 2017-10-23 17:05:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685552 The creature isnt a child, and Victor wasn't his parent. Victor was the creator of the monster , not the same thing. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685558 Haley WIttick ]]> 2017-10-23 17:05:16 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685558 ok billy are you just gonna 'cool off' if society hates you and your parent abandoned you? i think not https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685875 2017-10-23 17:05:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685875 I wouldn't mind being strangled by the creature tbh https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685982 Benjamin Kim]]> 2017-10-23 17:06:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199685982 This is even more reason that society is to blame. Society became "the parents" in a way because the creature had no one else to turn to. The society became his main influence, and did not do a job. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686190 Cassis Roland]]> 2017-10-23 17:06:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686190 Ben, I have one question: why? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686287 Carly Snell]]> 2017-10-23 17:06:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686287 Can someone give me the answers to the debate, I'm pretending to be sick haha https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686788 Hridayesh Joshi]]> 2017-10-23 17:07:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199686788 Hridayesh, this is on the screen https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199687542 2017-10-23 17:09:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199687542 How far back are you willing to take it? Should we blame Victor's parents for creating the circumstances that led to the creation of the creature? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199689733 2017-10-23 17:13:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/20173rd/wish/199689733