https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq Consider MTSS and Natural Proportion. Answer these two questions. 1. What part of MTSS do you find challenging? 2. Any thoughts on natural proportion en-us 2023-07-17 21:45:18 UTC 2023-08-02 16:30:13 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f9d0.png https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781215 Child smile ]]> 2023-07-31 22:54:31 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781215 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781335 My grandson is fantastic ]]> 2023-07-31 22:54:52 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781335 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781430 2023-07-31 22:55:17 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781430 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781611  Haven't had to be involved in those meetings.

On the proportions......sometimes it is easier to put the kids together in one class so a TA can be in there to help the sped students and be extra support for other students.]]> 2023-07-31 22:56:00 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781611 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781647 More time with the kids to build relationships instead of diving into instruction.]]> 2023-07-31 22:56:09 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781647 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781859 Success ]]> 2023-07-31 22:57:00 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781859 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781888 2023-07-31 22:57:06 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653781888 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782063 To me I think ALL students should be together.]]> 2023-07-31 22:57:42 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782063 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782149 More with kids and have connections with them.]]> 2023-07-31 22:58:09 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782149 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782218 1) The part that is most challenging about MTSS is placement.

2) I believe natural proportion is important for not just the health of the learning environment, but also normalizing (or destigmatizing) mental illness, being academically impaired, etc.]]> 2023-07-31 22:58:24 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782218 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782232 The challenging part of MTSS can be the collaboration piece when there isn’t follow through with all members of the team due to due to lack of communication, time or desire. 

Natural proportion can be difficult with combo classes and different schedules for different grade levels. ]]> 2023-07-31 22:58:29 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782232 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782258 Collaboration with Staff]]> 2023-07-31 22:58:37 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653782258 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653784732 2023-07-31 23:08:09 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2653784732 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383376 I believe Natural Proportion is the best model for student success. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:06:24 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383376 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383395 Natural proportion can be difficult for scheduling. Sped teachers can’t be in 2+ places at once supporting students who are spread around the building. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:06:29 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383395 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383422 I’ve never heard of this before today but I think it is essential for promoting a fully inclusive learning environment. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:06:37 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383422 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383449 Always advocate for your kids! If you don’t think your kid is in the right placement or receiving what they need, keep advocating for them. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:06:44 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383449 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383472 2023-08-01 22:06:47 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383472 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383522 I need MTSS protocols. Teaches in my school do not follow the guidelines.]]> 2023-08-01 22:06:59 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383522 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383540 Don’t eat the little green men. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:03 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383540 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383565 2023-08-01 22:07:12 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383565 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383601 MTSS turns into a data collection barrier and waiting game for students who should be getting SPED support sooner. 

Natural proportion sounds wonderful, but it spreads the staff too thin to cover minutes in multiple classrooms. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:22 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383601 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383608 Natural proportion needs to be a priority to create equitable and enriching learning experiences for all learners.]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:24 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383608 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383611 It is challenging to make it work seamlessly. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:24 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383611 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383682
2. The natural proportion sounds great in idea. Would love to see it implemented everywhere. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:42 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383682 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383690 This would be great to implement and I hope it can be made more of a priority to benefit students. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:44 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383690 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383705 MTSS is challenging without proper training, staffing, and support.]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:47 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383705 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383714 Teachers don’t always come to MTTS prepared with data. It makes the process more frustrating for all. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:07:48 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383714 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383757 2023-08-01 22:07:59 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383757 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383764 Although it would be fantastic to have natural proportion in our classrooms, the really is quite different. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:08:01 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383764 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383829 Natural proportion is not natural selection!]]> 2023-08-01 22:08:16 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383829 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383914 Require buy in from all parties to be effective]]> 2023-08-01 22:08:27 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383914 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383994 -getting gen ed, sped, and administrative buy in to the process

]]> 2023-08-01 22:08:45 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654383994 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384024 I believe natural proportion can be successful when you have a large school population. We only have one English only classroom and then one Spanish immersion classroom, therefore, if the special students aren’t in the elementary Spanish program they go to the English only class and that tends to have more special Ed students. When I taught in FL, we had larger grade level groups and classes, so kids could he spread out to meet natural proportion standards. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:08:52 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384024 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384072 Both will only work if everyone is on board, training needs to be provided on how to work with certain kids, and we all have to have a “Can Do” attitude. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:09:04 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384072 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384105 2023-08-01 22:09:11 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384105 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384106 In elementary school every class had their own lunch table. My gen ed class was too big for our table and so the last 1-2 people in line had to sit at the self-contained sped class table. Kids would cut in line to avoid being last as this was a cause of bullying. Natural proportion would have solved this problem as there would be no stigma sitting at “the sped table.”]]> 2023-08-01 22:09:11 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384106 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384121 Follow through with all team members is difficult.    Getting rid of excuses why they can’t/ don’t/ couldn’t do interventions or ask for help.


]]> 2023-08-01 22:09:17 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384121 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384162 Really support the research on natural proportions and mentor building administration on current best practices.]]> 2023-08-01 22:09:29 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384162 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384175 2023-08-01 22:09:34 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384175 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384334 I understand the idea, but it’s challenging for inclusion (takes more staff). ]]> 2023-08-01 22:10:01 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384334 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384459 MTSS takes time to implement and all students do not learn the same. 

Natural proportion is good for all teachers and students! But planning lower class sizes is needed by your stat and city!]]> 2023-08-01 22:10:41 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384459 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384565 Having teachers who want to go ahead and evaluate but have not provided interventions with fidelity as well as taken data is challenging for me as a SPED teacher to hear/see in SST meetings. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:11:15 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384565 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384750 This is ideal but it makes it challengingto provide services. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:12:09 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384750 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384827 Students with IEPs should be equally distributed amongst teachers and not just based on academic needs, but also behavioral needs. All behavioral needs should not be place on one teacher and special education teachers should be a part of the discussion and placement of students. ]]> 2023-08-01 22:12:33 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384827 https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384874 MTSS is too ambiguous in its transition of a student to a sped referral.  Tier 1 is for everyone but many sped kids get left out due to so much pull-out time and gen eds inability to make it happen.

Sped kiddos spread out proportionally is the ideal BUT I’d rather have my students placed in classrooms where the gen ed teacher will accept and include them. This allows us to co-teach and stop pull outs.]]> 2023-08-01 22:12:45 UTC https://padlet.com/freeman_ashley/58mem383vti01qrq/wish/2654384874