https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh Hi all, student reps have a meeting this Wednesday and I know there are lots of questions in regards to OSCES so fire away and we will get the answered :) en-us 2021-02-15 12:39:53 UTC 2025-09-29 02:51:32 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f970.png laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203515765 ANSWER - groups to be given next Wednesday.]]> 2021-02-15 12:42:39 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203515765 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203519655
ANSWER - all team members will be able to perform ILS including iGel insertion.]]> 2021-02-15 12:44:07 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203519655 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203521005 ANSWER - Yes. ]]> 2021-02-15 12:44:37 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203521005 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203522039 ANSWER - suction machine in OSCE so verbalistion.]]> 2021-02-15 12:44:58 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203522039 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203524678 ANSWER - No just verbalise it.

]]> 2021-02-15 12:46:02 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203524678 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203526125 ANSWER - Use drugs within the region.]]> 2021-02-15 12:46:39 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203526125 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203528636 ANSWER - which ever one you want.]]> 2021-02-15 12:47:38 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203528636 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203545950 ANSWER - yes use every minute as Narcan can pass blood brain barrier (not cellular level) so can metabolise during arrest. However, glucose has to pass cell barrier so cannot metabolise during arrest. Overall, yes give narcan in arrest every minute, don't give glucose.]]> 2021-02-15 12:54:45 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203545950 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203546719 Do we have to insert an iGel in our OSCE if required or can our crew mate do it as long as we check it is correctly in place and secured afterwards? 

ANSWER - Direction to do it must come from lead, however lead must check patency. Any crew member can insert iGels.]]> 2021-02-15 12:55:03 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203546719 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203549924 Within our practise bubbles, will we be able to choose who we do our osce with? 

ANSWER - groups have been revised to ensure OSCE groups will have someone (at least one person) you are familiar with. Being unfamiliar with people is more like real life - you need to be able to demonstrate leadership.

]]> 2021-02-15 12:56:17 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203549924 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203551455 ANSWER - when identified or when possible, give during hypovol arrest; or when unknown cause. Always justify. 

ROSC - clinical justification in sense of patient perfusion, repeat obs to maintain bloody pressure.]]> 2021-02-15 12:56:57 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203551455 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203551525 If we fail our OSCE is it just one more attempt we get or do we have an IMR as well? 
ANSWER - feedback within 3 weeks; IMR date (w/c 12th April) on module guidance on BB. If IMR is failed then it goes to exam board.]]> 2021-02-15 12:56:58 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203551525 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203553254 Will we be actually expected to draw up a drug required or just verbalise drawing up a drug ? 
ANSWER - Verbalisation.

]]> 2021-02-15 12:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203553254 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203554150 If someone else in your osce (the eca or student) does something wrong and you don't pick up on it, would that be a fail? 
ANSWER - depends to what degree, direction should be from lead only. Lead should check important factors as they are directing the team. ]]> 2021-02-15 12:58:01 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203554150 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203569846 ANSWER - a mixture]]> 2021-02-15 13:04:14 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203569846 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203570281 On the corpuls, if we press AED (when patients in CA) it brings up the page that shows a countdown and how many times we’ve shocked etc- are we allowed to use that during the OSCE? 

ANSWER - No AED mode in OSCEs :)]]> 2021-02-15 13:04:24 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203570281 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203575331 So when we give meds - either before pt goes into cardiac arrest or during cardiac arrest, do we have to state the dosage of the meds we are giving as well as the name of the med? I.e the Anaphylaxis scenario, we’d potentially give Adrenaline IM if we have chance before the pt goes into cardiac arrest.

ANSWER - Yes, advisable to check drug doses via JRCALC unless life threatening and delays must not occur.]]> 2021-02-15 13:06:22 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203575331 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203577108 Are we just verbalising what drug we are giving, when and how we are giving it, how much and pretend to draw up or are we physically drawing up the drug?
ANSWER - verbalise]]> 2021-02-15 13:07:02 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203577108 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203581687 So the scenarios we’ve been practicing have had pt’s with different levels of consciousness then eventually go into cardiac arrest - is this the setup for the osces or will the pt be in cardiac arrest already and we just treat it as a cardiac arrest from the beginning? 

ANSWER - could be either.]]> 2021-02-15 13:08:48 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203581687 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203581900 If needed in the OSCE can we use our JRCALC when administering drugs if we have a mind blank of the dosages ( I’ve had different answers on this)

ANSWER - medical yes, mid arrest no,]]> 2021-02-15 13:08:53 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203581900 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203583801 If we forget to put the metronome on- do we fail the osce? 
ANSWER - No but compressions should be expected at a good rate.]]> 2021-02-15 13:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203583801 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203586345 For the marking- is it a bit like a driving test - you have so many minors before you fail or is it just a blanket pass/fail even if you make a really minor mistake? 
Answer - You will refer if you make a critical error eg something dangerous or would be of detriment to your patient. A few minor errors may be Vivaed by the tutor or given in feedback.]]> 2021-02-15 13:10:36 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203586345 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203588121 How do the OSCE get marked and is it just a Pass/Fail or is there a %
ANSWER - pass and fail

]]> 2021-02-15 13:11:17 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203588121 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203590600 Will we get feedback on our OSCEs as well as a mark of Pass/Fail.
ANSWER - 3 weeks for pass/fail ; feedback will be given.

]]> 2021-02-15 13:12:11 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203590600 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203595853 In regards to bee stings, the JRCALC says to remove from environment causing allergy? Does this mean we have to remove the sting before starting treatment ? 
ANSWER - could potentially remove if it is visible as it needs to be removed; however, wouldn't be a priority in arrest. Could stop them from going in to arrest however.]]> 2021-02-15 13:14:01 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203595853 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203624946 So if we get a pt with special circumstances- I.e. asthma or anaphylaxis will we be expected to remember the full regime of treatment to give - i.e salbutamol (own and neb), O2, Atrovent, hydrocortisone, Adrenaline? (Asthma)? 
ANSWER - yes,]]> 2021-02-15 13:24:23 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203624946 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203628268 Would we be expected to terminate resuscitation efforts in an OSCE - if the scenario fitted?
ANSWER - Yes.]]> 2021-02-15 13:25:27 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1203628268 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204010478 Are we allowed to ask our crew to keep an eye on times, eg  for two minutes? 
ANSWER - Yes. Initial direction from lead.]]> 2021-02-15 15:30:02 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204010478 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204021399 How do you give nebulised drugs if the patient is in the supine position? 

ANSWER - you can't, could use positional methods instead.]]> 2021-02-15 15:33:27 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204021399 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204023534 Can you give drugs such as hydrocortisone to treat asthma or anaphylaxis during cardiac arrest or should they only be given when the patient is alive?
ANSWER - Only when conscious.

]]> 2021-02-15 15:34:09 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204023534 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204156224 Can we have a list of accepted things to ask in osces eg. Cap refill etc as advice is different from each staff member we ask ! Thanks 
ANSWER - anything which will affect patient's life will result in a fail, i.e. not asking for allergies in conscious patient before administering drugs. Cap refill would not harm life so wouldn't make you fail.
Lists should be avoided.]]> 2021-02-15 16:17:05 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204156224 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204307440 Are we expected to intubate in our OSCE,

ANSWER - Recognise intubation need; request backup to perform. If confident then do it, not dependant on YAS or EMAS. ]]> 2021-02-15 17:08:15 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1204307440 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1206835859 Is the OSCE on special circumstances and normal ALS scenarios or could we get Burns and HHOTT ALS?
ANSWER - Wouldn't be give HOTT or burns.]]> 2021-02-16 13:23:12 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1206835859 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1208045220 For cocaine toxicity in an arrest do we give diazepam 10mg wait 10 minutes and give another dose 10mg- MX20mg or is that just if they are alive/ROSC ?

ANSWER - No diazepam in an arrest]]> 2021-02-16 17:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1208045220 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1209383161 We are told to always do 30:2 and practice that in sessions however on JRCALC it says if an advanced airway is in place then continuous compressions should be used. Which is correct for osces and if continuous compressions is it a breath every 6 secs 

ANSWER - it is advisable to pause when ventilating to ensure airway focus and to avoid leakage. ]]> 2021-02-17 01:22:47 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1209383161 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1209999560 In our OSCEs, if the patient is initially conscious but subsequently deteriorate into VF, do we recheck ABC prior to delivering the 3 stacked shocks?
ANSWER - No, deliver stacked shocks only if pads are on.]]> 2021-02-17 07:27:55 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1209999560 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210684179 Unable to use the trauma kit amongst the groups. Feel it is unfair some students having them for 2 weeks already. 
ANSWER - advice has been given.]]> 2021-02-17 11:24:00 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210684179 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210686123 Easter placement dates conflicting eachother been sent two timetables that dont match


Ambulance placements will go ahead from the 8th March continuous (EMAS and YAS) including optional easter holiday.
Hospital (group B) - from the 15th March and can still go ahead with ambulance placement on Easter holiday. We will be emailed soon.

YAS students must YAS email placement team if they wish to go on easter holiday ambulance placement.

*missing hospital placements can be done in contingency weeks / uni works.

]]> 2021-02-17 11:24:46 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210686123 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210743884 When treating life threatening asthma do you still follow the I only said I had asthma algorithm, or do you go straight to adrenaline say? 
ANSWER - adrenaline is last in algorhythm.]]> 2021-02-17 11:49:16 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1210743884 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211942161 ANSWER - Later blackboard feedback. Rationalise ]]> 2021-02-17 16:50:14 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211942161 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211945852 ANSWER - high flow oxygen, don't tirate.]]> 2021-02-17 16:51:01 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211945852 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211950343 Are we expected to intubate even if our service doesn’t allow paramedics to do it anymore? 
ANSWER - no.]]> 2021-02-17 16:51:57 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211950343 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211960162 ANSWER - if you request any additional resources then it shows you are considering it for transport.]]> 2021-02-17 16:54:05 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211960162 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211964108 When will we find out our groups 

ANSWER - not too early to prevent stress - will be given next Wednesday. Can talk to Sharyn next Wednesday and Friday if any complications.]]> 2021-02-17 16:54:50 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211964108 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211970830 Can we choose between corpus’s and lifepak 
ANSWER - Yes.]]> 2021-02-17 16:56:12 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1211970830 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212019183 Could we have traumatic cardiac arrest in which osce 
ANSWER - No]]> 2021-02-17 17:05:56 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212019183 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212219037 2021-02-17 17:47:10 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212219037 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212296041 2021-02-17 18:03:30 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212296041 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212314101 2021-02-17 18:07:30 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212314101 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212320330 Lecturers will be moved around; 6 different scenarios per room.]]> 2021-02-17 18:08:54 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212320330 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212329706 ANSWER - Yes one room per week; however, if you check the night before and there is space then you can book.]]> 2021-02-17 18:10:56 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212329706 laurenplayfoot https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212355436 Please ensure tracker is updated, this is checked weekly.]]> 2021-02-17 18:16:48 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1212355436 https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1218826653 O2
Adrenaline 1:1000 IM
Fluids
Chlorpheniramine
Hydrocortisone
Salbutamol

Answer - Oxygen & fluids yes if the person leading has given the instruction, drugs no.]]> 2021-02-19 13:49:17 UTC https://padlet.com/laurenplayfoot/53ejlldh1kzrstzh/wish/1218826653