n8- Martin Luther's "95 Theses" by Cristell Cedeno https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo Period 8 en-us 2022-01-12 14:47:47 UTC 2024-06-03 21:26:18 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f913.png 1. Write your name, number, and the theses you were assigned in the title section. ccedeno10 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1988390550 2. Write your interpretation of the theses in the section below.
3. Like and comment one theses from one of your peers. (One that is not commented on yet). In your comment 1. Revise your peers' interpretation if needed and comment on how this thesis relates to yours. ]]> 2022-01-12 14:53:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1988390550 Brenda-41 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992822576 i interpret it as a statement written to say that the tolerance from the pope should be sought with caution because people seek the tolerance and pardon of the pope more than seeking good works and acts of charity.]]> 2022-01-14 18:20:06 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992822576 Jamia Lott: 28th Thesis “It is certainly possible that when the money clinks in the bottom of the chest avarice and greed increase; but when the church offers intercession, all depends on the will of God.” (Thesis 28) To explicate what Luther wrote, he knew that the priests in the church were greedy for wealth/money. The priest desired wealth; they decided to make more money with intercessions to increase their values(social status, material things, or power) for themselves. Luther knew that what they were doing was not to honor or be with God in the end but to use him while living. Luther also knew that the act should be with people that honor God, not the people that exploited his name. https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992836808 2022-01-14 18:29:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992836808 Theses 42 - Paul Moya https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992841919 "Christians should be taught that the pope does not at all intend that the purchase of indulgences should be understood as at all comparable with works of mercy."
My interpretation is that Christians should be taught that the buying of indulgences does not compare with being forgiven by Christ.]]> 2022-01-14 18:32:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992841919 Trent - 23 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992841928 23. If plenary remission could be granted to anyone at all, it would be only in the cases of the most perfect, i.e.,to very few.
Meaning If it is indeed possible to offer anybody the forgiveness of all penalties, it is evident that this remission can only be awarded to the most flawless, that is, to the very fewest. Only a small amount of sinners can be excused. These people would have to be as perfect as it gets. Luther endeavored to prove that individuals in Purgatory are subjected to a sentence of horror. 
]]> 2022-01-14 18:32:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992841928 Iyiola-89 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992842301 "What the pope seeks by indulgences is not money, but rather the salvation of souls; why then does he not suspend the letters and indulgences formerly conceded, and still as efficacious as ever?"

Martin luther refute the common claim that the church only seeks helping people reach salvation through indulgences by pointing out that the church doesn't keep the same energy about people's salvation apart when they don't engage in the process of indulgences.]]> 2022-01-14 18:32:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992842301 Cherifa- 6 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992843424 Theses 6: The pope himself cannot remit guilt but only declare and confirm that it has been remitted by God; or, at  most, he can remit it in cases reserved to his discretion. Except for these cases, the guilt remains untouched. 

Interpretation: Martin Luther is trying to say that the pope is not aloud to take money for sins/guilt. The pope can say that God told him to take the money, or he can take the money only in discreet instances. If not one of these instances then the guilt should be left alone

]]> 2022-01-14 18:33:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992843424 Nathaniel-24 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992844889 It must therefore be the case that the major part of the
people are deceived by that indiscriminate and high-
sounding promise of relief from penalty.
 
Only a very few sinners can be pardoned. These people would have to be perfect, therefore most people are being deceived by indulgences. As discussed in last clase, we said that an indulgences is "a way to reduce the amount of punishment one has to undergo for sins"


]]> 2022-01-14 18:33:51 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992844889 Ashley-32 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992846248 "All those who believe themselves certain of their own salvation by means of letters of indulgence, will be eternally damned, together with their teachers". As the rich were paying for indulgences in hopes of evading punishment, and the church was selling these indulgences for their benefit, it was morally wrong and went against what the church was supposed to believe in and stand for. People couldn’t buy themselves out of punishment for their sins and the church shouldn’t have sold them. The only way out of punishment was to have faith; to believe God forgave you. By indulging in indulgences to escape punishment, those who had partaken would be heavily punished.]]> 2022-01-14 18:34:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992846248 Glenda-90 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992848520 "These questions are serious matters of conscience to the laity. To suppress them by force alone, and not to refute them by giving reasons, is to expose the church and the pope to the ridicule of their enemies, and to make Christian people unhappy."

Putting bad/evil ideas and opinions into people and not explaining to them how it is bad and forcing people to think what they're saying is good isn't right. Feeding evil and saying that it is “good” is not how good will result. Evil will just result in evil if you say if it is good or bad. And that is how the church can get exposed.]]> 2022-01-14 18:36:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992848520 Jason-27 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850075 "There is no divine authority for preaching that the soul flies out of purgatory immediately the money clinks in the bottom of the chest." 

It’s nonsense to teach that a dead soul in Purgatory can be saved by money. In other words, there’s no amount of money that can save a soul in Purgatory;not even God can help your soul, only you can.


                                                                 
]]> 2022-01-14 18:37:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850075 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850290 Bryan-66

“The treasures of the indulgences are the nets today which they use to fish for men of wealth.”

The meaning behind this text is supposed to represent how the church is using people for them to give them money. In exchange of happiness and repentance, they grow wealthy, while the person who paid goes off happy and sound not understanding what they just did. They are tricking them onto a hook the fish(people) will fall and not realize their misunderstanding. For a fake happiness, they become more wealthy.


]]> 2022-01-14 18:37:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850290 Cassie-28 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850527 "It is certainly possible that when the money clinks in
the bottom of the chest avarice and greed increase;
but when the church offers intercession, all depends
on the will of God."

I interpreted there was a lot of people wanting to be rich and just people would becoming even greedier. But when the church offers to pray to go for them, likely for the greed as it is a sin, it is up God whether to forgive them.]]> 2022-01-14 18:37:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850527 Melissa-45 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850927 "Christians should be taught that he who sees a needy person, but passes him by although he gives money for indulgences, gains no benefit from the pope’s pardon, but only incurs the wrath of God." My interpretation is that all christians should be taught that if they see someone in need of help, but turn a blind eye to go ahead do spend it on shallow earthly things,  can not buy their way into forgiveness from the pope but instead deal with the consequences of their actions which in this case, its God's wrath. ]]> 2022-01-14 18:37:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992850927 Jasmin- 1st https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992852312 "When our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ, said “Repent,”1 He called for the entire life of believers to be one of penitence." I believe Luther said that God wanted all of them to be united and show that they've done wrong, but since the people didn't actually follow the true words of God, they disagreed with Martin Luther. They thought everyone should be separated and gave the wealthy people superiority.]]> 2022-01-14 18:38:23 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992852312 Isaac Flores - 53. Those are enemies of Christ and the pope who forbid the word of God to be preached at all in some churches, in order that indulgences may be preached in others. isaac608786 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992854383 In the Catholic Church indulgence is when a member of the church is forgiven for their crime(s) or sin(s). In this message Martin Luther says that some popes do not preach the word of god in some churches, and that they preach indulgences instead. This means that Martin Luther believes that pope's are talking about God's forgiveness and how even if you do something bad they can be forgiven for it. The popes use this argument a lot when they are exposed for doing things that they are not supposed to do such as having children. Martin Luther is trying to express how these popes are fake and enemies of God because they do not preach what they are supposed to, which is the word of God.]]> 2022-01-14 18:39:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992854383 Gabriel- 95 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992854787 "And let them thus be more confident of entering heaven through many tribulations rather than through a false assurance of peace."
The meaning should mostly be taken at face value- that you should be more confident with success from having lots of failures and obstacles than just a smooth path to your success. The reasoning can be so that you have more strength and wisdom and be able to be content with your journey, to be able to get a genuine message out of it.]]> 2022-01-14 18:39:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992854787 keyla - 14 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992857004  theses 14 - 
"defective piety or love in a dying person is necessarily accompanied by great fear, which is greatest where the piety or love is least." 
fear is better than being loved even when at point of death. when only accompanied by piety or love there will be no such importance in the person, no one would care. but when followed with such little fear or a big amount of fear there will be importance as to what will happen next with the person gone. ]]> 2022-01-14 18:41:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992857004 Sophia -18 sophia609031 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992857150 18. Moreover, it does not seem proved, on any grounds of
reason or Scripture, that these souls are outside the
state of merit, or unable to grow in grace; 

 I believe this means that never in the name of law it should be stated that souls that are in punishment may not be able to grow in love or grace. These opinions caused many controversies because nobody really agreed with Martin Luther.


]]> 2022-01-14 18:41:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992857150 Jessica - 90 jessica610865 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992860682 "These questions are serious matters of conscience to the laity. To suppress them by force alone, and not to refute them by giving reasons, is to expose the church and the pope to the ridicule of their enemies, and to make Christian people unhappy."

Martin Luther is trying to say that people refute to speak the truth about what church is really about. It also affects the unhappiness towards the people who are Christian because they don't know what the bible is asking them to do for good deeds when they can't take hand of the book to read it for themselves and get trick by others by scamming them and being ignorant not realizing the actual intentions. All they care about is to be forgiven by God for their sins.]]> 2022-01-14 18:43:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992860682 Sandy Augustin-13 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992861583 "Death puts an end to all the claims of the church; even
the dying are already dead to the canon laws, and are
no longer bound by them."

The quote basically mentions how we have no control over our spirit or actions after we die. As a result, we no longer have to abide by the commandments of the church because we can't make any decisions that disobey them, so the rules no longer correlate to us. ]]> 2022-01-14 18:44:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992861583 Katherine - #30 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992863206 No one is sure of the reality of his own contrition,much less of receiving plenary forgiveness.

Because people buy indulgences, they can't truly be remorseful of their sins because they can always pay the priest to forgive them. They are unaware that the indulgences don't actually forgive their sins, so receiving forgiveness from the priest doesn't actually release them of their sins.]]> 2022-01-14 18:45:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992863206 Ryan: 49 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992872607 "Christians should be taught that the pope’s indulgences are useful only if one does not rely on them, but most harmful if one loses the fear of God through
them."

I interpret this as a statement stating that indulging is self-care and enjoyment is important and not morally incorrect, but if it gets in the way of Christianity and/or dampens your faith in God, it is sinful]]> 2022-01-14 18:51:10 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992872607 :) Super Proud ccedeno10 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992884447 You all have really great analytical skills! You are connecting the content with your understanding to elaborate complex answers. (You are all literally using H.A.P.P. and I don't even have to tell you to)]]> 2022-01-14 18:58:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1992884447 Erick-36 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1995046014 "Any Christian whatsoever, who is truly repentant, enjoys plenary remission from penalty and guilt and
this is given him without letters of indulgence."  My interpretation is that the people began to redefine the beliefs of Christianity. ]]> 2022-01-17 04:05:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/1995046014 Esther - 3 https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/2007783986 "Yet its meaning is not restricted to penitence in one’s heart; for such penitence is null unless it produces outwards signs in various mortifications of the flesh."

He is saying that that feeling sorry or regret is useless unless it is show by humiliation.]]> 2022-01-24 02:04:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ccedeno10/50upsvlm9u5r4sbo/wish/2007783986